Arsenal 2-2 Manchester United – Gallas own-goal, Fabregas, Ronaldo, Gallas.
Phew. Fantastic second half, the game kept building up and just exploded at the end. Both sides deserved the result – United will curse their defending for both goals (what was Hargreaves doing ball-watching when he should have covered the far post where Gallas scored from) and Arsenal will wonder why they couldn’t break through, although to be fair United’s defending was quite good apart from those two goals.
And while we talk about the players, spare a thought for the officials. Howard Webb did well, and the linesman made the right goal at the end, crunch time, the guy should really be commended for his efforts.
Who will take away the most from this game? Both teams have a lot to take away – Arsenal for the way they refused to give up (United-like) and United for the way they played this game away from home and almost won it.
FT: It’s over, 2-2, just about equal on effort and performance. Kudos to the linesman for pointing out that there had been a goal.
92: One minute left, this looks to be a draw. During the goal celebration Fabregas can be seen shouting ‘fuck off’ in Rio’s face, emotional yes, but not something he should be doing.
90: 3 minutes of added time, will Fabregas —- what the fuck? Arsenal goal, Gallas scores.
89: Bad defending by United, the bouncing ball escapes Rio and then O’Shea, Eduardo shoots wide though.
88: Evra falls badly while defending against Walcott, but recovers in a few seconds. Heading for stoppage time this one, 3 minutes?
87: Nicely won foul by Ronaldo, who goes down pretending to be hit on the head when he was anything but. Shameful? Yes.
86: United are good enough to play keep-ball, but something tells me they’ll be going for goal. Not enough noise at the Emirates though, maybe Arsenal need their 12th man to show up?
84: Evra’s defensive clearance kisses the top of the goal, lucky bastards (all of us).
83: Can Arsenal get a goal? I think they can, but with Saha playing up front and Carrick offering solidity in the middle, it’s going to be difficult.
81: GOAAALLLLL!!!! Great move by United, Evra runs on to Saha’s backpass unmarked, cuts it back for Ronaldo and he taps it in, fantastic.
80: Arsenal subs – Gilberto and Eduardo on for Hleb and Rosicky.
79: Poor corner, Vidic cleaned out by Sagna, lands on his back and needs medical attention.
78: Not sure what you expect me to tell you at this point – reporting failed attacks from both sides gets a bit tedious after 5 minutes. United win a corner thanks to Ronaldo.
76: Personally I would have swapped O’Shea for Evra, or brought Nani on for Giggs. Now we have no attacking fullback on the right and no winger on the left.
75: Manchester United subs – Saha on for Tevez, Carrick on for Anderson. Now we’re talking.
74: Arsenal sub – Walcott on for Eboue.
73: Ronny runs with the ball across the front of Arsenal’s penalty area, no Carrick or Scholes to play one-twos off, so it all comes to nothing.
72: Manchester United and Arsenal keep probing, but perhaps they need more than the over the bar potshots and long-range punts that these players are trying right now. Walcott warming up.
70: Manchester United sub – O’Shea on for Brown.
69: Time for Wenger to bring on Walcott for Rosicky methinks.
66: Back and forth, but nothing substantial from either side.
63: Good chance for United and Rooney heads it wide. Arsenal restart, Eboue does well on the right, Hleb tries a shot from outside the box but it’s over the top. Yes, Arsenal are shooting from afar.
62: Who will Fergie bring on? Nani? Carrick? How about both, taking Anderson and Giggs off? Saha’s there too, but would you sacrifice anyone for him?
60: Arsenal with a clear upper hand in the second half, United need to calm down and a major component of that will be Anderson and Hargreaves.
58: Fab gets through the wall but it’s curves into EVDS. If that had gone straight that might have been a goal.
57: Anderson gives away a free-kick at the edge of the box. Silly. United are not closing down as much as they should.
56: United missing Scholes – somehow they’re much calmer when he’s on the pitch, although that’s probably just my imagination.
53: Things are calmer now – United pushing forward as before, but with no luck on the left side as Giggs can’t get past Sagna.
51: A dubious penalty shout, A possible foul in the build-up the first goal, a defensive error leading to the second. Of course, we’re discounting the quality football from both sides, but that’s how this game will be remembered.
49: If there’s an inquisition, it must be asked of the United defence why van der Sar needed to come out and block Ade.
47: GOOOAALLLLLL!!!! FUCK!!!! Fabregas scores for Arsenal, EVDS comes out to stop Adebayor, Sagna does excellent work to whip it in, EVDS out of position and its Rio on the goal line, can’t stop Fab.
45: United kick off.
Half-Time: Manchester United lead 1-0 at the Emirates thanks to a Rooney goal. Here’s the video, in case you want to see it again.
Watching Arsenal – I’m a bit surprised that Rosicky hasn’t done much, but the major disappointment would be the lack of impact Ade and Fab have had. Arsenal will be far more attacking in the second half, should be interesting.
Highlights of the game, going back to the penalty call for the shirt tug on Hleb by Vidic – really, I doubt that Hleb was taken off balance by that tug and the way he fell down it wasn’t as if he was wrestled down or anything. For penalties you need the ref to be sure, this wasn’t something the ref could be nailed on about, so while it’s dubious, it’s not something even close to a definite penalty.
Foul by Brown in the buildup? Shoulder block more like it, but discuss in the comments.
Overall the half had Arsenal dominating in terms of aggression but United were quite good in holding them back and like I said earlier, it took something special – this time from Brown and Ronaldo, and while people will talk about the deflection, you don’t always have the luxury of perfect goals, it happens to the best players, you know.
45 + 1: No point in bitching about the build-up, we’ll get enough time at half time to figure it out. Oh wait, the whistle blows.
45: GOOOOAAAALLLL!!!!!! Brown nutmegs an Arsenal defender, passes through to Ronaldo, who whips in a cross, Rooney taps it in. United are ahead right at the end of the first half.
44: United players performing their defensive duties quite well – Hargreaves and Ronny especially (along with the back four). perhaps a fit Saha would have helped with his height? You could argue that United should be keeping possession more but Giggs is being marked very well and that’s cramping them a lot as he doesn’t go wide at all.
41: United are solid defensively but they’re sitting back far too much. One hard man short, I think. Anderson should drop back a bit in my view and play quarterback and Hargeaves should be pushing forward more. Still, away game, gotta give the boys some time.
39: Theatrics by Anderson to get Fabregas booked. Now all we need is for Ronaldo to do the same to Fab, right? Not good, not good Anderson.
36: Anderson asks the ref to book an Arsenal player for tackling Ronaldo – not good to see the United man waving the card in Webb’s face, lucky not to get booked for that.
35: Fabregas whips it in, Gallas heads it, EVDS saves with his feet, corner and United get a good break. Eventually, United clear from the corner.
34: United win a corner. Good work by Ronny against Clichy. Arsenal clear and break but Hleb can’t get past Anderson. Hleb falls over conveniently and wins Arsenal a free kick.
31: Remember how I used to criticise Evra for being out of position and putting his teammates under pressure? Giggs is doing the same now, and Sagna / Ade / Eboue are finding it too easy on United’s left flank. Over on the right side Ronny is tracking back a bit better.
30: Webb plays advantage then calls play back when Anderson gets tackled again. Rooney wastes it though by taking it too quickly.
28: United are growing into this game, Hargreaves and Anderson slowly imposing themselves by keeping possession and passing it around in midfield.
26. United pass it out of their half, but apparently it’s not as significant as Arsenal passing the ball out of their half, which every commentator feels a need to point out.
25: Hargreaves goes through Hleb and earns himself a yellow card.
24: Contrary to popular expectations, this isn’t going to be a game where one player bosses and dominates a game. No one on the pitch is THAT good, and the opposition defences in both cases are quite good.
23: I’ve been impressed by Anderson and Sagna so far, both are playing quite well.
22: Quick update, in case you haven’t noticed. 1 – franky’s unavailable, so it’s me, Ahmed, filling in. 2 – still a United fan at the helm, so excuse the transparent attempts at unbiased commentary.
21: Adebayor pushes Evra down using his height and arm while going for a header, ref sees right through it and calls them back.
19: Evra needs to get his tackling under control, he’s already on a yellow and it’s not going to help United one bit if he keeps tackling like this.
17: Great flow to the game, but I don’t like the fact that a) Giggs is pulled infield too far and Ronaldo still cuts in too much – although with his pace and skills one shouldn’t be complaining. Giggs pulling in leaves United weak on the left, and Tevez and Rooney are taking turns covering.
17: Oh, so close. Giggs could have tapped that one in, but the ball came too fast to him.
16: Cynical tackle by Evra on Adebayor, yellow card. Poor positioning and timing.
15: Hleb falls over in the United box, Arsenal claim that Vidic had pulled him down but replays show that despite a tug on Hleb’s shirt, Vidic wasn’t responsible for it.
13: Arsenal do have a slight upper-hand in the midfield, but they don’t look so solid at the back and they’d be wary of pushing too forward lest United snatch a goal on the counter.
12: Watching 10 minutes of this game, you have to wonder why ’slick passing’ gets more drooling than lightning-fast offense?
9: United waste a corner, Ade wastes a header although he was too far away.
7: Pretty passing football isn’t going to be enough to beat United, unless someone makes a mistake. Arsenal need something special, either from Ade or Hleb or Fab. I don’t think Rosicky will get enough time on the ball, what with the flying tackles and all.
5: Brown touches Rosicky from behind and he topples over like a certain Portuguese we love to vilify. It’s warming up now, as Arsenal push forward into United’s half and Anderson, Rio and co push them back.
3: It’s quite impressive how Hleb has matured for Arsenal this season. Of course, the same Arsenal fans praising him wouldn’t give him a second chance in the summer.
2: Does anyone really think either club will run away with the game? Of course not. On the other hand, predicting that this will be a cagey game is pretty much like predicting that Arsenal and United will be in the top four at the end of the season.
KO: Hleb and Adebayor kickoof for Arsenal, and immediately its deep into United’s half, only to run tamely out for a goal kick.
I’m predicting a Manchester United win. Yea
And for anyone who says Fabregas is the key player of the game cleary hasn’t seen Howard Webb prancing around a football pitch.
Welcome to the live blog. The match is about to kick off, the players are coming out, let’s get started.
Team Lineups
Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy, Eboue, Flamini, Fabregas, Rosicky, Hleb, Adebayor.
Subs: Lehmann, Diarra, Eduardo, Walcott, Silva.
Manchester United: Van der Sar, Brown, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Ronaldo, Anderson, Hargreaves, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez.
Subs: Kuszczak, Louis And His Amazing Powder Bones, Carrick, Nani, O’Shea.
Match Information:
Arsenal vs Manchester United
Emirates Stadium
Saturday 3rd November 2007
Kickoff: 12:45
Arsenal v Manchester United Preview
Arsenal take on Manchester United in a top of the table clash that could, if Arsenal were to win, give the Gunners a significant advantage in the Premier League title race. Manchester United have, after a slow start, picked up the pace and will be looking to cut down the points deficit (Arsenal have a game in hand and with their form, virtually 3 points in the bag) and pull themselves level.
Manchester United lost twice to Arsenal last season in the league but still managed to win the Premier League title. This season, a similar performance will almost certainly condemn Manchester United to second place at best unless Arsenal have a Newcastle-style meltdown (which they’ve had in the past, but it’s not something Manchester United can rely on). A win for both sides is a must, and hopefully we’ll see an entertaining game and above all, quality football from the two sides that play the best football in the Premier League.
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Great finish. I was pulling for a draw, so a Chelsea win would kick us up to third and only 3 points back. Looks to be a highly competitive season.
Arsenal should be dissapointed with the point. They outplayed Manchester United from the start, and after the tied the match at 1 by Fabregas’ goal, they let off the accelerator and let United dominate the next half hour. Only a furious finish and terrible defending allowed Arsenal to tie it up again. But they relaxed after the first goal when they could have gone on the offensive and buried United.
Wayne Rooney is on fire, even though that goes as an own goal to Gallas. (unfair to both, in my opinion.)
SAF talks too much. He bitches about the refereeing, yet colossal mistakes made in the Chelsea-Man U game at Old Trafford he apparently missed. All managers need to shut up about the ref when their teams disappoint in big matches, it is getting old.
The fixtures that will make the difference between champion and second place this season will be these. Chelsea, Manchester United, and Arsenal will need to win these matches at home against each other; they are all going to beat up on the same clubs, and they need 3 points at home. Arsenal takes a hit for failing to do so, so advantage United for drawing at Emirates and taking 3 at OT from my Blues.
so many player r on fire! the premiership needs to be hosed down
Of course Paul, most Arsenal fans live within 100, nay, 200 miles of London and go to see Arsenal everytime they can, right?
As for going to see them, I did so both times I had the chance. Once I travelled 50 miles to Nicossia and once, nearly 100 miles and stood in line for three hours in Bucharest. I am sure I am not the only one to have done this, but there are only so many tickets to Man Utd games and so many more fans. It is the same with your beloved Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool, make no mistake.
Brain, this season will be awesome. It will be so very tight all over the table!! SO EXCITED!!
Great result for Chelsea and Liverpool fans! It was sad to see what Liverpool did though and I am afraid that if they keep it up, they will be out of the race before long. Hope that does not happen though.
if we ever go 15 points behind then i wll start to doubt our title hopes but we r only 6 points behind (FOR NOW!) so Benitez hasent balls it up too much just need to get back on track
I think uefa chould let 7 english clubs enter the champions league and the other 3 in the top ten in the uefa cup. English football is really getting the excitement back
Hey Andrei, you noticed you left out the bit about being un-knowledgeable!
SAF feels there should be a limit on the foreign players in the premiership and there should be a minimum no of local players. He also ‘feels’ that would hurt clubs like Arsenal. Apparently he’s still smarting over the last minute equaliser.
Its hilarious really. This froma guy who raids the Portugese clubs on a regular basis! How many English players does Utd have anyway? A lot which will be retiring soon (or should be!). Arseblog has written a scathing commentary about it which i completely agree with.
C’mon Ahmed! Where’s your article about SAF’s latest bout of nuttiness? Is one in the works already? Don’t pull any punches on account of all the Utd fans who read this blog.
He also forgets that Arsenal have two regular under 21 players in Walcott and Hoyte. Post match he accused the referee of favouring Arsenal. He also raised the point about the security for the away team. He claimed the audience who were 20 ft away from him were abusing his team. What did he expect? Gooners singing Hallelujah Manu?
Spiral Architect, United have a squad of just over 70% British players.
Spiral – a bit busy these days, plus Scott over at the ROM blog did one article just today
Karl –
Read Arseblog’s comments on this & think about whether Utd really can depend on its ‘70%’ British players. Also, isn’t this the ‘English’ Premiership? So you can’t count the Scots, Irish or Welsh (which probably make up the ‘British’ players you talked about) technically can you? I dunno. There seems to be so many loopholes nowadays (aka give a Brazilian a Spanish passport) its so hard to keep track of them all.
Irish and scots are different from english, karl.
Sir Alex is a bit angry but he has a right to complain and i agree with him
Ferguson complaining about being abused in the dugout is completely hypocritical. Arsene Wenger is always subject to to viles taunts of “sit down you paedophile” at Old Trafford and Jose Mourinho was called a “greasy c**t”. Did Wenger or Mourinho whinge like Ferguson is? Of course they didn’t, they just got on with it. Why don’t you do the same Fergie? Let’s face it, the only reason you’re moaning (again) is because your team can’t hang on to a lead. Get over it!
This is how many English players Man Utd has in its squad:
1. Gary Neville
2. Wes Brown
3. Rio Ferdinand
4. Michael Carrick
5. Owen Hargreaves
6. Paul Scholes
7. Wayne Rooney
Add to that Ben Foster and Danny Simpson which equivalate your TWO English players and we have seven more than you (all of which play regulalry).
Paul about the un-knowlegeable fans, I took it as an attack to me rather than to my club and this is not place to discuss my personal pride. Even though I will mention that I know plenty of Arsenal fans who know very little about footy (not reffering to you).
Thats 7 players(or even 9). According to your last post Man U had over 70% British players. So I guess Man U’s total strength is either 10 or around 12.8……………
In that list, Neville & Scholes are due to retire soon. That leaves 5 (or 7). So where are the replacements coming from? Gonna give the whole Portugese contingent dual citizenship?
The basic point is that SAF is talking crap, as he usually does when things don’t go his way. Sure, other managers do it too & there’s no denying that Wenger has had his bad moments as well. But after the game Wenger chose to highlight the positives of his team & try & make the best of the draw & keep his players positive. SAF on the other hand is just throwing negative criticism at everyone – the refs, the fans, the opposition players – about stuff that has no relevance to the game in question (the same old ‘foriegn’ players argument again, ad nauseam!).
If its all part of his ‘mind-games’ or his way of motivating his players i just don’t care. To me it smacks of stupidity & being blatantly hypocritical. He should know by now that Wenger, of all people, is used to this sort of crap.
If I’m not mistaken, then according to Eufa rules, British qualifies for English.
There was an article regarding the amount of English players at United here on Soccerlens before. (Tried to do a search, but could not find it).
Iqnadirshah, Andrei – squad does not mean first 11.
Paul – “Did Wenger or Mourinho whinge like Ferguson is?”
Did they get thrown with pizza/soup at Old Trafford?
Iqnadirshah, I mentioned only Enlish players, not British. Besides it was not me who said that we have 1 70% British squad.
Karl, obviously ’squad’ does not mean first XI, but I am not about to include Fabien Brandy who I do not believe has yet made a first team appearance for United. If I would have done that, there would have been another backlash from Arsenal fans aho then would have mentioned 100 15-year olds who supposedley play for the Gunners.
Paul, Karl, do I have the wrong memory of who Mourinho actually was?
Is he not the man who complained about everything from an opposition dive (Johnson – he was not given a peanlty or yellow card) to having Schevchenko in the squad (he must be the only one who can complain about having one of the greatest strikers of this generation in his team)?
Did he not complain about his reserves not being able to play in the Championship?
I dont have much on Wenger, but then again its 6 o’clock so I might come up with something soon
Karl- What has the pizza/soup throwing go to do with what happened on saturday? Witnesses at the emirates on saturday say that it was Fergies own security man who stirred things up when Ronaldo scored Man Uniteds second goal. You wouldn’t of got the whole story from Fergie though would you?