Comments on: Arsenal’s Golden Generation: Will Wenger’s squad ever live up to the high expectations? http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/ Football News Sat, 26 May 2012 13:33:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: shiilyboy http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113518 shiilyboy Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:30:39 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113518 I'm an Arsenal fan but the last few seasons without trophies have been hard. Year after year the same thing is promised; that the next generation is coming. Half way through last season I started to believe. We had Hleb and Fab was laying everything on a plate for Ade, whilst Flamini was a revelation. We also had two of the best full backs in the game. But then everything went wrong. Eduardo was just starting to prove what a great buy he was before his unfortunate incident and we started to draw too many games. Furthermore, we were robbed by Liverpool in the Champions League by a penalty that didn't go our way in the first leg, and a dubious penalty to them in the second. Then came the news in the summer that Hleb and Flamini were leaving. If those two stayed we would've had a real shot this season. Nevertheless, I believe many journalists fail to recognize that Arsenal have built a world class stadium. Consequently, in order to maintain long term sustainability, it is totally understandable that Arsene has pursued a youth policy as opposed to the millions that the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man United spend on transfers each summer. Ultimately, Arsenal and their board have created arguably the most sustainable, self-sufficient club of the big 4 in England. Referring back to your player summaries, I'd like to add that Eboue is simply not good enough. His performances have improved but he just doesn't have enough talent. As for Song, I don't think his a fan favorite but I reckon he is underestimated a lot of the time. His job is similar to that of Gilberto's and is only missed when his not there. The one I see who could make the biggest impact is Vela. In the games he has played this season his shown great promise and is a player I'd really like to see more of. But I feel Wenger is protecting him in the same way Walcott has been protected in the past. We see the benefits of that now. Walcott/Fab/Vela will be the future of Arsenal, but then again I fear that we may lose important players like these before the 'golden years' just like we lost Hleb and Flamini last summer. I’m an Arsenal fan but the last few seasons without trophies have been hard. Year after year the same thing is promised; that the next generation is coming. Half way through last season I started to believe. We had Hleb and Fab was laying everything on a plate for Ade, whilst Flamini was a revelation. We also had two of the best full backs in the game. But then everything went wrong. Eduardo was just starting to prove what a great buy he was before his unfortunate incident and we started to draw too many games. Furthermore, we were robbed by Liverpool in the Champions League by a penalty that didn’t go our way in the first leg, and a dubious penalty to them in the second. Then came the news in the summer that Hleb and Flamini were leaving. If those two stayed we would’ve had a real shot this season.

Nevertheless, I believe many journalists fail to recognize that Arsenal have built a world class stadium. Consequently, in order to maintain long term sustainability, it is totally understandable that Arsene has pursued a youth policy as opposed to the millions that the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man United spend on transfers each summer. Ultimately, Arsenal and their board have created arguably the most sustainable, self-sufficient club of the big 4 in England.

Referring back to your player summaries, I’d like to add that Eboue is simply not good enough. His performances have improved but he just doesn’t have enough talent. As for Song, I don’t think his a fan favorite but I reckon he is underestimated a lot of the time. His job is similar to that of Gilberto’s and is only missed when his not there. The one I see who could make the biggest impact is Vela. In the games he has played this season his shown great promise and is a player I’d really like to see more of. But I feel Wenger is protecting him in the same way Walcott has been protected in the past. We see the benefits of that now.

Walcott/Fab/Vela will be the future of Arsenal, but then again I fear that we may lose important players like these before the ‘golden years’ just like we lost Hleb and Flamini last summer.

]]> By: fabmaniac http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113357 fabmaniac Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:51:05 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113357 You can understand that Arsene is an excellent manager and that these children(yet) have talent through their development this season! they didnt't started quite well but 2009 has been a very different season..they seem more like a team now..they can make a comeback when they are down 0-1 and they can perform what everyone calls "the arsenal way"..Future beckons..it is almost inevitable that some players maybe the popular ones will leave due to big contracts that they will be offered..but if they stay together..oh my..i can see the domination..only united(man.) and barca will be able to compete them in england and europe respectively..! I dont think that 2012 will be the start of the golden era..their peak time yes..but i think title credentials will arise from this summer since arshavin seems well adapted he will included in the champions league and cesc alongside denilson will develop even more..i think 2009/2010 will be an interesting season for arsenaL...the potential is there..only time will show us the result of all the speculations..! thank your fabmaniac ;) You can understand that Arsene is an excellent manager and that these children(yet) have talent through their development this season! they didnt’t started quite well but 2009 has been a very different season..they seem more like a team now..they can make a comeback when they are down 0-1 and they can perform what everyone calls “the arsenal way”..Future beckons..it is almost inevitable that some players maybe the popular ones will leave due to big contracts that they will be offered..but if they stay together..oh my..i can see the domination..only united(man.) and barca will be able to compete them in england and europe respectively..! I dont think that 2012 will be the start of the golden era..their peak time yes..but i think title credentials will arise from this summer since arshavin seems well adapted he will included in the champions league and cesc alongside denilson will develop even more..i think 2009/2010 will be an interesting season for arsenaL…the potential is there..only time will show us the result of all the speculations..! thank your fabmaniac ;)

]]> By: ish http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113354 ish Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:58:29 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113354 by competitive i hope you mean able to challenge for a top 4 finish cause thats all they have been doing for last 4 years. I think the biggest problem with arsenal is that they dont have the older players who can use their experience to weather the storm/make something happen. Many of the games this year the ones who have done the most in many of the major teams have been the slightly older players like lampard, scholes, giggs and carragher. Look at liverpool's squad they are also relatively young with many years of peak performance to go. Same goes for ManU who have just gone through a rebuilding over the last 2 seasons and look better for it. Alot of the youth are arsenal i think are over-rated in the sense that if they played a club outside of arsenal and maybe barcelona they would not be as lauded. Many of arsenal's "youth" is just very well scouted players from around the world already and many of them can't even cut it in the long run. The problem with arsenal is that some of the players just aren't good enough and they drag back the team because suddenly fabregas can't trust denilson/diaby/song/eboue to be half the DM that flamini was and that limits his going up forward which directly limits adebayor's contribution, add to it that many of the players that would normally be on the wings are injured or not natural wingers and you get a situation where goals are hard to come by, only now that arshavin is firing can arsenal get back on track. by competitive i hope you mean able to challenge for a top 4 finish cause thats all they have been doing for last 4 years. I think the biggest problem with arsenal is that they dont have the older players who can use their experience to weather the storm/make something happen. Many of the games this year the ones who have done the most in many of the major teams have been the slightly older players like lampard, scholes, giggs and carragher. Look at liverpool’s squad they are also relatively young with many years of peak performance to go. Same goes for ManU who have just gone through a rebuilding over the last 2 seasons and look better for it.
Alot of the youth are arsenal i think are over-rated in the sense that if they played a club outside of arsenal and maybe barcelona they would not be as lauded. Many of arsenal’s “youth” is just very well scouted players from around the world already and many of them can’t even cut it in the long run. The problem with arsenal is that some of the players just aren’t good enough and they drag back the team because suddenly fabregas can’t trust denilson/diaby/song/eboue to be half the DM that flamini was and that limits his going up forward which directly limits adebayor’s contribution, add to it that many of the players that would normally be on the wings are injured or not natural wingers and you get a situation where goals are hard to come by, only now that arshavin is firing can arsenal get back on track.

]]> By: b-52 http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113342 b-52 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:05:32 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113342 great stuff. wenger is truly a genius for keeping the arsenal squad competitive without spending money. great stuff. wenger is truly a genius for keeping the arsenal squad competitive without spending money.

]]> By: IAM-always-ARSENAL http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113331 IAM-always-ARSENAL Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:15:04 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113331 i really liked the artcle. people and have said alot about Arsenal and the players. most of the media haven't said anything of the future. they are completely decieved by current inconsistencies in the squad and see is the surface apperances going on. the writer of this article i think has touched all Arsenal fans and has the power of seeing things from distance. All the future depends on what we do today and AW is doing the very job for that matter. what i am afraid now is other teams interest in the palyers of us. that would be something we fight for. Everything will be alright with Arsenal in the coming years. i really liked the artcle. people and have said alot about Arsenal and the players. most of the media haven’t said anything of the future. they are completely decieved by current inconsistencies in the squad and see is the surface apperances going on.

the writer of this article i think has touched all Arsenal fans and has the power of seeing things from distance. All the future depends on what we do today and AW is doing the very job for that matter.

what i am afraid now is other teams interest in the palyers of us. that would be something we fight for. Everything will be alright with Arsenal in the coming years.

]]> By: Dan http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113326 Dan Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:24:23 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113326 Lol as a Chelsea fan I would love to see Diaby be the ticket attendant. Freak of a player, and provided he gets a good injury run, he'll get world player of the year at some point. Good injury run being key. Even though I am a Chelsea fan, I've come to respect Wenger's spending policy - out of all of these, only Arshavin is in the top 50 paid players in the world, and he's at 37. There's an article on it somewhere on this site. So as much as I would love to see Arsenal fall, as a Chelsea fan, at the same time I'd love to see a manager who doesn't spend much to be successful. Damn it. Lol as a Chelsea fan I would love to see Diaby be the ticket attendant. Freak of a player, and provided he gets a good injury run, he’ll get world player of the year at some point. Good injury run being key.

Even though I am a Chelsea fan, I’ve come to respect Wenger’s spending policy – out of all of these, only Arshavin is in the top 50 paid players in the world, and he’s at 37. There’s an article on it somewhere on this site.

So as much as I would love to see Arsenal fall, as a Chelsea fan, at the same time I’d love to see a manager who doesn’t spend much to be successful. Damn it.

]]> By: Dylan http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113321 Dylan Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:11:16 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113321 Great article! It will definitely be difficult for some fans to wait for three years, but watching some of these players develop has been a real joy: -Denilson and Song: Compare their performances 6 months ago to their most recent performances in terms of distribution and tenacity, it's like their completely different players. -Bendtner: Takes a lot of crap for his lack of finish, but he looks 10x more dangerous and confident now than he did at the beginning of the season. He runs at defenders, takes the right positions, and has worked on his distribution and hold-up play and is a much better all-around player than he was in August. We need to be more supportive of these young players. The injuries have forced them to fill some immense shoes and I think they've done quite admirably. We're still in two major competitions and are very close to becoming a dominant side. Great article!

It will definitely be difficult for some fans to wait for three years, but watching some of these players develop has been a real joy:

-Denilson and Song: Compare their performances 6 months ago to their most recent performances in terms of distribution and tenacity, it’s like their completely different players.

-Bendtner: Takes a lot of crap for his lack of finish, but he looks 10x more dangerous and confident now than he did at the beginning of the season. He runs at defenders, takes the right positions, and has worked on his distribution and hold-up play and is a much better all-around player than he was in August.

We need to be more supportive of these young players. The injuries have forced them to fill some immense shoes and I think they’ve done quite admirably. We’re still in two major competitions and are very close to becoming a dominant side.

]]> By: andy jackson http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113320 andy jackson Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:09:01 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113320 i thought about him, and randall. to be totally honest though i have not seen them more than ten times and i only comment if i have a good long luck at the player. when i see reserve games etc they never seem to play, or miss the one i end up seeing through injury. once i view them i can really form an opinion. i have heared good things but only feel that i am justified to make a estimate if i have had more than a brief viewing. thanks for the comments i thought about him, and randall. to be totally honest though i have not seen them more than ten times and i only comment if i have a good long luck at the player. when i see reserve games etc they never seem to play, or miss the one i end up seeing through injury. once i view them i can really form an opinion. i have heared good things but only feel that i am justified to make a estimate if i have had more than a brief viewing.

thanks for the comments

]]> By: Yodha http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113313 Yodha Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:53:33 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113313 Great article; one of the best I've ever seen on Arsenal future. I was a true neutral when I first watch football some years ago. But over the years, I couldn't help but to admire Arsene's philosophy for Arsenal. It was only last year that I decided to support Arsenal. Andy, I think there is one more player that may be worth to put under 'Squad Depth': Kieran Gibbs. He's been playing really good whenever he comes on this season. Apart from the players mentioned in this article, there are some more fantastic young players coming through the ranks in a few years. Mind you, if they all stay, Arsenal could field an all-English team 7 years down the road! Or maybe at least 8 English players, since I have yet to see truly potential young English players on Right Back, Center Back, and Goal Keeper positions in Arsenal. Oh well, I'm just hoping that the current team will stay together for a long time. That should be enough to win trophies. I don't mind waiting three years, haha. Great article; one of the best I’ve ever seen on Arsenal future.

I was a true neutral when I first watch football some years ago. But over the years, I couldn’t help but to admire Arsene’s philosophy for Arsenal. It was only last year that I decided to support Arsenal.

Andy, I think there is one more player that may be worth to put under ‘Squad Depth’: Kieran Gibbs. He’s been playing really good whenever he comes on this season.

Apart from the players mentioned in this article, there are some more fantastic young players coming through the ranks in a few years. Mind you, if they all stay, Arsenal could field an all-English team 7 years down the road! Or maybe at least 8 English players, since I have yet to see truly potential young English players on Right Back, Center Back, and Goal Keeper positions in Arsenal.

Oh well, I’m just hoping that the current team will stay together for a long time. That should be enough to win trophies. I don’t mind waiting three years, haha.

]]> By: andy jackson http://soccerlens.com/will-arsenals-youth-ever-be-served-under-wenger/24801/#comment-113309 andy jackson Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:21:46 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=24801#comment-113309 as a wigan fan i felt inclined to dispute any mention of the french player in my presence. he was great when he played for us by the way. as a wigan fan i felt inclined to dispute any mention of the french player in my presence. he was great when he played for us by the way.

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