Comments on: Why the Tottenham board must replace Martin Jol http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/ Football News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Are Wigan, Fulham and Bolton relegation contenders? | Soccerlens - Football News Blog http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-62277 Are Wigan, Fulham and Bolton relegation contenders? | Soccerlens - Football News Blog Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:30:29 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-62277 [...] be relegated. I thought about putting in Tottenham Hotspur as one of the possibilities, but after this post I thought I shouldn't to keep my life safe from possible revenge seeking Spurs fans. Have no [...] [...] be relegated. I thought about putting in Tottenham Hotspur as one of the possibilities, but after this post I thought I shouldn’t to keep my life safe from possible revenge seeking Spurs fans. Have no [...]

]]> By: Dickhead Nick http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61917 Dickhead Nick Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:33:51 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61917 Keane replaced - be serious! Much as I admire Defoe, he does need to sharpen up and stop blazing wide & getting caught offside + Keane & Defoe are really different style players & Keane can come on and turn matches round,Ditto Jenas - for a club that has always espoused open attacking football it's funny why some keep on getting on Jenas's back - give it a rest or go and support the scum or why not even try Fulham or Bolton ? Keane replaced – be serious! Much as I admire Defoe, he does need to sharpen up and stop blazing wide & getting caught offside + Keane & Defoe are really different style players & Keane can come on and turn matches round,Ditto Jenas – for a club that has always espoused open attacking football it’s funny why some keep on getting on Jenas’s back – give it a rest or go and support the scum or why not even try Fulham or Bolton ?

]]> By: demonrho http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61883 demonrho Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:34:46 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61883 n who is 2 replace martin jol? i think he is not @ fault at all except buying bent. don't cut ur nose 2 spite ur face is the saying. see lyon. they had a top manager. they sacked him 2 win the champions league... n the team fades away... n who is 2 replace martin jol? i think he is not @ fault at all except buying bent. don’t cut ur nose 2 spite ur face is the saying. see lyon. they had a top manager. they sacked him 2 win the champions league… n the team fades away…

]]> By: nick the yid http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61855 nick the yid Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:33:21 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61855 ALSO people are forgetting that we had 5 very important players out at the beggining of this season which played a big factor as well, dawson, kaboul, bale, lee, ekkoto oh and lennon oh and ofcourse king, ( i think thats more than 5), now how would arsenal cope without, tore, senderos gallas(whos always out) clichy, and another recognised left back and lets say hleb, think about it, these players where out for the first 4 games and as i mentioned earlier we havent had the rub of the green aswell but we have created a lot of chances against good teams and that includes man utd and arsenal where infact we had the chance to go 2-1 or even 3-1 up before the 2 long range efforts that arsenal scored, so realy its just a very fine line between defeat and a win, we will turn it around that im sure of ALSO people are forgetting that we had 5 very important players out at the beggining of this season which played a big factor as well, dawson, kaboul, bale, lee, ekkoto oh and lennon oh and ofcourse king, ( i think thats more than 5), now how would arsenal cope without, tore, senderos gallas(whos always out) clichy, and another recognised left back and lets say hleb, think about it, these players where out for the first 4 games and as i mentioned earlier we havent had the rub of the green aswell but we have created a lot of chances against good teams and that includes man utd and arsenal where infact we had the chance to go 2-1 or even 3-1 up before the 2 long range efforts that arsenal scored, so realy its just a very fine line between defeat and a win, we will turn it around that im sure of

]]> By: ShamelessYid http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61854 ShamelessYid Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:28:19 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61854 Spursman - why dont you go put on a red and white shirt and fuck off down the road to the immigrants with the rest of the Arsenal monkeys. You say your a Spurs fan but you sound Gooner to me and i for one sense no support from you at all. If you really SUPPORT spurs then how about SUPPORTING them. your a glory glory boy, will be singing Spurs from the roof tops when we win but when the going gets tough and your off with the rest of the monkeys glory hunters. Maybe thats a big assumption but fair considering your comments. Spursman – why dont you go put on a red and white shirt and fuck off down the road to the immigrants with the rest of the Arsenal monkeys. You say your a Spurs fan but you sound Gooner to me and i for one sense no support from you at all. If you really SUPPORT spurs then how about SUPPORTING them. your a glory glory boy, will be singing Spurs from the roof tops when we win but when the going gets tough and your off with the rest of the monkeys glory hunters. Maybe thats a big assumption but fair considering your comments.

]]> By: ShamelessYid http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61853 ShamelessYid Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:24:13 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61853 Just a couple of thoughts here... Jason Pereira - I just to put my 2 pennies worth in on what you said in the comments. Firstly, the comments about us 'declining' last season compared to the season before are incorrect. Yes i agree if you want to look at the league and just the league but if you look at the bigger picture and the fact we played 18 more games last season to the one before and finished with only 5 points difference on the season before but with decent cup runs on 3 fronts, i dont really see that as a decline, i see that as progress as would most people from any team. Im sure if that was Arsenal you would be thinking the same thing. Secondly, Kevin-Prince Boateng was very highly rated in Germany and did win the young player of the year award out there, however he came to us with no preseason and injured and totally unclimatised to the English game so he has been building his match fitness and getting used to playing English football, however you will see this evening when Jol plays him in our UEFA cup match in Cyprus that he will play and start playing with the first team. Spurs have been looking for some kind of consistancy in the team, this has given him time to get match fit and experience of the English game. Lastly, your comments about English players way out of line and how you can compare Toure and Van Persie to Rooney and Ferdinand i have no idea, they are both far superior players and Man U paid that money for them for a reason, cos they are worth that money and they could afford it. But your comment of 'As I'm not English, I don't give a toss about the amount of English players in our team' is so low its unreal. This is the ENGLISH premier league, played in England and was created by, yes you guessed it, the ENGLISH people and is watched and supported by the ENGLISH people, and as such your comments are unfounded and out of order. You may not care about it but if you want to watch the English game and support and English club then id suggest you get used to English players. Yes Arsenal have had good luck with their foreign policies and i salute those but this is still the English game and i for one cant wait for the FA to introduce the rule of a minimum number of English players for teams and starting 11, not just for the good of the English game and the England team but also cos Arsenal would be fucked. Good luck to us all. Just a couple of thoughts here…

Jason Pereira – I just to put my 2 pennies worth in on what you said in the comments. Firstly, the comments about us ‘declining’ last season compared to the season before are incorrect. Yes i agree if you want to look at the league and just the league but if you look at the bigger picture and the fact we played 18 more games last season to the one before and finished with only 5 points difference on the season before but with decent cup runs on 3 fronts, i dont really see that as a decline, i see that as progress as would most people from any team. Im sure if that was Arsenal you would be thinking the same thing.
Secondly, Kevin-Prince Boateng was very highly rated in Germany and did win the young player of the year award out there, however he came to us with no preseason and injured and totally unclimatised to the English game so he has been building his match fitness and getting used to playing English football, however you will see this evening when Jol plays him in our UEFA cup match in Cyprus that he will play and start playing with the first team. Spurs have been looking for some kind of consistancy in the team, this has given him time to get match fit and experience of the English game.
Lastly, your comments about English players way out of line and how you can compare Toure and Van Persie to Rooney and Ferdinand i have no idea, they are both far superior players and Man U paid that money for them for a reason, cos they are worth that money and they could afford it. But your comment of ‘As I’m not English, I don’t give a toss about the amount of English players in our team’ is so low its unreal. This is the ENGLISH premier league, played in England and was created by, yes you guessed it, the ENGLISH people and is watched and supported by the ENGLISH people, and as such your comments are unfounded and out of order. You may not care about it but if you want to watch the English game and support and English club then id suggest you get used to English players. Yes Arsenal have had good luck with their foreign policies and i salute those but this is still the English game and i for one cant wait for the FA to introduce the rule of a minimum number of English players for teams and starting 11, not just for the good of the English game and the England team but also cos Arsenal would be fucked.

Good luck to us all.

]]> By: nick the yid http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61852 nick the yid Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:11:54 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61852 your father supported spurs because at the time spurs were the team, just like arsenal have been recently so spurs was the team to support and attract fans,at the time spurs was winning european trophies (infact the first to do so in england), first team to do the double at the time and fa cups galore you name it, like what wenger is for arsenal now, bill nicholson was doing it at spurs, secondly i agree martin jol does pick 2 or 3 wrong players every single game yes you are right, i will also tell you who they are, keane,jenas, huddlestone, they should be replaced by, defoe, malbranque and zokora, malbranque in the middle with zokora this will balance the team as malbranque is agile and can tackle and dribble he is wastyed on the wings, simple as that, jol has the players but dosent know where to play them and also has favourites and has too much faith in the wrong ones, he dosent have the guts to drop people and make them fight for their places and thats why we are not performing, having said that to be honest we have conceeded silly goals this season and havent had the rub of the green cos we have played quite well apart from the first 2 games.could have beaten arsenal if the chances were taken, should have beaten united only for hitting the bar and not getting at least one of the penalties, unlucky against fulham as they got a deflected goal which sparked the comeback and then a shinner overhead kick lol, outplayed villa but conceeded stupid goals, we need a little bit of luck and soon we will be challenging, remember a good team dosent become a shit team overnight. your father supported spurs because at the time spurs were the team, just like arsenal have been recently so spurs was the team to support and attract fans,at the time spurs was winning european trophies (infact the first to do so in england), first team to do the double at the time and fa cups galore you name it, like what wenger is for arsenal now, bill nicholson was doing it at spurs, secondly i agree martin jol does pick 2 or 3 wrong players every single game yes you are right, i will also tell you who they are, keane,jenas, huddlestone, they should be replaced by, defoe, malbranque and zokora, malbranque in the middle with zokora this will balance the team as malbranque is agile and can tackle and dribble he is wastyed on the wings, simple as that, jol has the players but dosent know where to play them and also has favourites and has too much faith in the wrong ones, he dosent have the guts to drop people and make them fight for their places and thats why we are not performing, having said that to be honest we have conceeded silly goals this season and havent had the rub of the green cos we have played quite well apart from the first 2 games.could have beaten arsenal if the chances were taken, should have beaten united only for hitting the bar and not getting at least one of the penalties, unlucky against fulham as they got a deflected goal which sparked the comeback and then a shinner overhead kick lol, outplayed villa but conceeded stupid goals, we need a little bit of luck and soon we will be challenging, remember a good team dosent become a shit team overnight.

]]> By: Nuking Futs http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61844 Nuking Futs Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:04:19 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61844 I'm a gooner from the Far East and I don't give a damn if there are no Englishmen in the Arsenal Team. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United are the 3 big teams that have a huge following here in Asia, and I believe that the money generated (on club jerseys, merchandise,etc)from Fanatics here cannot be dismissed as unimportant to the clubs in question.There is a crazy ridiculous obsession here in Asia with the EPL and we want to support the teams that play well, no matter what nationality. I’m a gooner from the Far East and I don’t give a damn if there are no Englishmen in the Arsenal Team.

Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United are the 3 big teams that have a huge following here in Asia, and I believe that the money generated (on club jerseys, merchandise,etc)from Fanatics here cannot be dismissed as unimportant to the clubs in question.There is a crazy ridiculous obsession here in Asia with the EPL and we want to support the teams that play well, no matter what nationality.

]]> By: Ebony Jane http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61817 Ebony Jane Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:00:07 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61817 Nice one spursman, absolutely spot on Nice one spursman, absolutely spot on

]]> By: erikkd http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61825 erikkd Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:05:22 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/why-the-tottenham-board-must-replace-martin-jol/3370/#comment-61825 one question i have is why the fixation on the presence, or lack their of, of english players on these teams? as far as i know, there is no mandate that a team playing in the premier league must favor english players to make the fielding of a better national squad easier. an epl mgr is hired to win the league, qualify for europe, win silverware, avoid relegation...or some combination thereof. oh, and do it on their teams budget. the national squad manager is hired to find, recruit, train and field a team that can win in europe, the olympics and the world cup. until the epl is designated as a national team training and development league, this isnt going to change. so slamming arsenals success or wengers status as a successful epl manager because of his rosters collective nationality really means nothing, nor does it mean anything in support of jol. simply, arsenal is exceeding common expectations this year, tottenham is lagging behind common expectations. Henry left, arsenal must fall...spurs spent, therefore must rise, ergo, spurs 4 arsenal 5...overly simplistic but that is how the summer commentary sorted itself out... increased expectations are a dangerous thing, and they bring enormous pressure to deliver...sadly, spurs reacted badly to a less then optimal start to the season, and now its snowballing on them...every bad result 'proves' they should have acted earlier, every comment must be analyzed for hidden meaning, every time the coach grimaces, means "he knows hes on the way out"...it becomes self perpetuating and self fulfilling... we see this stuff every season over here when the nfl gets going, this year 3 favorites for the super bowl are a collective 2-10 after 4 games each...same story lines here that you're seeing... just wanted to throw out an 'outside' perspective one question i have is why the fixation on the presence, or lack their of, of english players on these teams? as far as i know, there is no mandate that a team playing in the premier league must favor english players to make the fielding of a better national squad easier.
an epl mgr is hired to win the league, qualify for europe, win silverware, avoid relegation…or some combination thereof. oh, and do it on their teams budget.
the national squad manager is hired to find, recruit, train and field a team that can win in europe, the olympics and the world cup.
until the epl is designated as a national team training and development league, this isnt going to change.
so slamming arsenals success or wengers status as a successful epl manager because of his rosters collective nationality really means nothing, nor does it mean anything in support of jol.
simply, arsenal is exceeding common expectations this year, tottenham is lagging behind common expectations.
Henry left, arsenal must fall…spurs spent, therefore must rise, ergo, spurs 4 arsenal 5…overly simplistic but that is how the summer commentary sorted itself out…
increased expectations are a dangerous thing, and they bring enormous pressure to deliver…sadly, spurs reacted badly to a less then optimal start to the season, and now its snowballing on them…every bad result ‘proves’ they should have acted earlier, every comment must be analyzed for hidden meaning, every time the coach grimaces, means “he knows hes on the way out”…it becomes self perpetuating and self fulfilling…
we see this stuff every season over here when the nfl gets going, this year 3 favorites for the super bowl are a collective 2-10 after 4 games each…same story lines here that you’re seeing…
just wanted to throw out an ‘outside’ perspective

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