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gerard is a great premiership player and occasionally a great CL player but he is non- existant at the international level. If steve mac had made him captain england would have been saddled with a player who’s england form (over many more games that terry) has been very poor. If you watch him you can see why – his first touch is suspect, he’s wastefull with possession and positionally he is all over the place. His inspirational play doesn’t count for much against that. International football is much more difficult than lower forms of football. Captains can be inspirational but they have to be great players first. Terry was viewed by everyone except the rabid pro liverpool media as one of englands best in the world cup. That’s why he made the team of the tournament. Gerald was his usual indifferent self. Frankly i wouldn’t even pick him for england but that’s another e mail.

Actually ‘Dave Studdert’ Gerrard has always been played out of position for England with Lampard usually getting in the way –
the former coach is more responsible than Gerrard for lack of effectiveness.Anyone with half a brain can see what a fantastic player he is – tough he hasn’t got the captaincy but frankly that is Liverpool’s gain…as for Terry being a better don’t make me laugh….

WHAT???!?!!!!!!!!!?????

Terry is USELESS for england, he made 1 clearence in the world cup, but that was it.

The back line was shaky (to be polite) throughout the whole tournament, and terry is supposed to LEAD the back 4.

Gerrard has a lot more international experiance than Terry, and has contributed a lot more in the last 6 years for england.

Terry wasnt even a starter in Euro 04 due to a niggle and the star of the tournement (from englands point of view) was Ledley King.

To be honest Terrys starting place is still under debate, dont forget he has only been starting since the decline of campbell.

I am a liverpool fan and either way john terry or Steven gerrard would have got my vote for captain, they are both die hard players and sweat blood and tears.

Oh and that nonsense about gerrard not being good enough for england, what a load of rubbish hes probaly englands only complete player, and would walk into any club ot national team in the world so grow up moron. he’s twice the player frank lampard will ever be and i think lampard is great player.

If you dont think that neither John Terry or Steven Gerrard should be England captain then who do you think should?

Also which team do you support? I like Graham assume you are a man u supporter. If so, can you please explain how you would class man u’s CL victory if Liverpools is classed as being ‘hauled out of a rabbit’s ass’

Major sweeping statement thinking gloating and invoking divinity is something specific to fans of London clubs.

You’re a United fan so I’m assuming you have some idea of the kind of attitude your lot had in the 90s. Ditto for Liverpool fans, and the Toon Army who haven’t even won anything.

Should I expect more geographical profiling of fans and their attitude to the game?

as an LFC fan id have loved to see Stevie G become Stevie C – but Terry has been chosen and actually i dont feel too bad about it.

some of these comments are brilliant though. Lets face it – it was always going to be between SG and JT and no matter who got picked we should be proud as englishmen that we have a choice of two players who are so damned good. LFC fans are so up themselves and chelsea fans are so blinded by romans roubles that neither will give a valid opinion on anything. It also true that all LFC fans arent scallies, and all CFC fans arent the type that got pictured in Zoo. So bascially im chuffed JT is captain because it means that Beckham isnt and for me there was so little to choose between JT and SG that it really didnt matter who maclaren chose.

for the record i thought the article was great – im a supporter not a fan. i will always support LFC but always try to remember that arguing on the internet is like the the general election – even if you win – your still a twat

Gerrard is a quality player who would have benefitted from being given the captains arm-band.

The most important question that needs to be asked is; do we want the best for Steven Gerrard or the best for the England team?

John Terry is a leader of men, Steven Gerrard is an extraordinarily talented man. It surely makes sense to have a great player under the leadership of the best club captain in the world at the moment.

There have been great players who can turn a game on it’s head with unbelievable moments of personal skill, but they often don’t make great captains at the top level because their status alienates other talented players around them. If you ask me, i’d rather have Rooney on top form in my team than Gerrard on top form. Is Rooney any less dedicated, any less able to change a game with a moment of brilliance?

The great captains have all been strong, calm and composed leaders. It is harder to recall a number of great international captains who have fired themselves into every challenge and take the teams destiny into their own hands with make or break attacking moves.

gerrard just looks for superman status and sympathy all the time. he’d a pretty dumb reason for askin to leave liverpool last season. he changed his mind the followin day just to hear scousers sing superman songs again.
he showed his true colours after the world cup when he criticised ronaldo all the time again making up a dumb reason instead of being a man and talking about his team’s performances at the WC.

Ahmed Bilal, well spotted, but then may I then remind you Liverpool have 18 of the things? Oh, but no, then you’ll say ‘Premierships’ not ‘titles’. But then of course English Football History only started in 1992. So yes, remind me how many times UTD have won the TITLE. Lpool have won it 18 times mate.

And you’re all missing the point. The original article said ‘Liverpool ONCE WERE a great club’ which I took exception to, hence me saying what we have won NOT because im throwing past achievments up. Christ knows if I wanted to do THAT I could easily have done so as Liverpool have won a fair few trophies in their time methinks.

If ‘ONCE WERE’ means 8 trophies in 5 years, give me living in the past every year! You’ll find its UTD fans who tend to get a little arsey when Liverpool fans say they have won more trophies than UTD in the past 5 years.

So maybe the time is right to start saying UTD ‘ONCE WERE’ a great club?

Basically, I think that anyone who still supports Chelsea is kidding themself. In my mind, any team that has unlimited amounts of money that it squanders on players who are past their prime (Ballack and Shevchenko) is just throwing money around like it’s water. Unlike every other team in the premiership, Chelsea don’t have any qualms about transfer budgets and whatnot. The team is constantly changing and, to put it quite simply, players that would be definite first-teamers in most other line-ups are being bought and then benched (e.g. Shawn Wright-Philips). I can’t stand Chelsea. ‘Nuff said. By the way, I’m a Liverpool supporter.