Comments on: West Ham – beacon for squad players as ambitious players bail out http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/ Football News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Could Gudjohnsen be a first-teamer for West Ham, Newcastle United or Manchester City? | Soccerlens - Football News Blog http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-56145 Could Gudjohnsen be a first-teamer for West Ham, Newcastle United or Manchester City? | Soccerlens - Football News Blog Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:03:31 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-56145 [...] I can see why West Ham want G, I don’t get why G would turn down West Ham, unless he reads Soccerlens. He probably doesn’t want to go anywhere around Craig Bellamy, or more likely doesn’t [...] [...] I can see why West Ham want G, I don’t get why G would turn down West Ham, unless he reads Soccerlens. He probably doesn’t want to go anywhere around Craig Bellamy, or more likely doesn’t [...]

]]> By: DBeech http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53320 DBeech Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:09:21 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53320 When I read this article I was reading it from a bare-bones rss feeder and didn't see the title. Now that I have I think it's typical of the unfounded, salacious "reporting" that Bilal drudges out week after week. :) No, seriously. I should probably apologize for cracking the shits. I could see how, based on that title, they could take that as an offence against their club. When I read this article I was reading it from a bare-bones rss feeder and didn’t see the title. Now that I have I think it’s typical of the unfounded, salacious “reporting” that Bilal drudges out week after week. :)

No, seriously. I should probably apologize for cracking the shits. I could see how, based on that title, they could take that as an offence against their club.

]]> By: Fifth Column http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53179 Fifth Column Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:32:38 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53179 Toby Last year we signed Tyrone Mears, John Paintsil, John Spector and a range of #### players. Greene was the only decent one. This year, we have Bellamy, Faubert, Parker, Neill, Upson, Boa Morte. Which are better players? What you may mean is "these signings will not qualify you for the Champions League". However, they are clearly an improvement on 12 months ago and will therefore improve the squad and team so they will get us somewhere. As comment 34 posted, this site is full of people who know little about football (someone describing the crossbar as the "top post" was just superb) and think that if you're not in the top 4 then you're "nowhere". Good on our NEW chairman and our NEW manager - neither of whom had anything to do with the dodgy deal and who have conducted themselves with dignity. Toby

Last year we signed Tyrone Mears, John Paintsil, John Spector and a range of #### players. Greene was the only decent one.

This year, we have Bellamy, Faubert, Parker, Neill, Upson, Boa Morte.

Which are better players? What you may mean is “these signings will not qualify you for the Champions League”. However, they are clearly an improvement on 12 months ago and will therefore improve the squad and team so they will get us somewhere.

As comment 34 posted, this site is full of people who know little about football (someone describing the crossbar as the “top post” was just superb) and think that if you’re not in the top 4 then you’re “nowhere”.

Good on our NEW chairman and our NEW manager – neither of whom had anything to do with the dodgy deal and who have conducted themselves with dignity.

]]> By: toby http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53169 toby Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:15:22 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53169 I'm not particularly anti-West Ham. More anti-poor management and anti-total lack of ambition (OK and I can't see why people keep buying Bellamy, based on his goals/appearances record he'll get about 12 this season - hardly principal striker material) In my opinion it's perfectly reasonable to criticise ANY team that is underperforming and not doing anything to improve. To all those rabid West Ham fans - perhaps people are having a dig because they can see what you can't - these signings will get you nowhere I’m not particularly anti-West Ham. More anti-poor management and anti-total lack of ambition (OK and I can’t see why people keep buying Bellamy, based on his goals/appearances record he’ll get about 12 this season – hardly principal striker material)

In my opinion it’s perfectly reasonable to criticise ANY team that is underperforming and not doing anything to improve.

To all those rabid West Ham fans – perhaps people are having a dig because they can see what you can’t – these signings will get you nowhere

]]> By: ohmygosh http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53134 ohmygosh Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:30:28 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53134 Mr Bilal, I'm going to make an assumption that you support Manure or Liverpool. Hence the fact that no mention whatsoever is made of the fact that both teams are guilty of tapping up Tevez and Benayoun respectively. We all know Sir Alex does it non-stop (he even admits to it in as many word in his autobographies). Now we know Rafa does too, or else why would Yossi renege on a verbal agreement to sign a new contract by saying he wants to join Liverpool. West Ham are very much in the media spotlight at the moment and its overwhelmingly negative. The media seem to forget that this whole issue was caused by a previous regime that was universally hated by WHU fans. Having said that, we expressed serious reservations about a Kia consortium takeover, unlike Man City and, who are obviously desperate to come out of Manure shadow. What I find dissapointing, is that this site is obviously written by fans for fans, but, the arrogance shown by fans of the Top 4 when discussing the attempts of 'lesser' teams to improve their situation is disgusting. Your not superior because you support one of the Top 4, in my eyes, you are inferior because your just a mindless sheep not making his own decisions, but thats by the by. Dont look down on other teams, thats part of the reason that your team is despised by other teams fans. The only other time I have been on this site was when some wrote the most obnoxious, unresearched article calling all West Ham fans rascist. I'm asian, and whilst that doesnt preclude me from being rascist, the fact that I exist must be surprise to your colleague. Your point 32, that it wasnt an anti West Ham article? Thats the way it looks, and anyone who believes that are entitled to that opinion. Mr Bilal, I’m going to make an assumption that you support Manure or Liverpool. Hence the fact that no mention whatsoever is made of the fact that both teams are guilty of tapping up Tevez and Benayoun respectively. We all know Sir Alex does it non-stop (he even admits to it in as many word in his autobographies). Now we know Rafa does too, or else why would Yossi renege on a verbal agreement to sign a new contract by saying he wants to join Liverpool. West Ham are very much in the media spotlight at the moment and its overwhelmingly negative. The media seem to forget that this whole issue was caused by a previous regime that was universally hated by WHU fans. Having said that, we expressed serious reservations about a Kia consortium takeover, unlike Man City and, who are obviously desperate to come out of Manure shadow.

What I find dissapointing, is that this site is obviously written by fans for fans, but, the arrogance shown by fans of the Top 4 when discussing the attempts of ‘lesser’ teams to improve their situation is disgusting.

Your not superior because you support one of the Top 4, in my eyes, you are inferior because your just a mindless sheep not making his own decisions, but thats by the by. Dont look down on other teams, thats part of the reason that your team is despised by other teams fans.

The only other time I have been on this site was when some wrote the most obnoxious, unresearched article calling all West Ham fans rascist. I’m asian, and whilst that doesnt preclude me from being rascist, the fact that I exist must be surprise to your colleague.

Your point 32, that it wasnt an anti West Ham article? Thats the way it looks, and anyone who believes that are entitled to that opinion.

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53130 Ahmed Bilal Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:45:29 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53130 #12 - absolutely loved the comparison to Attila the Hun, which is why your comment came through (it's worthless otherwise, mind you). #12 – absolutely loved the comparison to Attila the Hun, which is why your comment came through (it’s worthless otherwise, mind you).

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53129 Ahmed Bilal Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:44:16 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53129 28 (DBeech) - I expected worse, to be honest. 31 (FC) - the idea was debate, yes. the players coming into west ham are players who didn't want to be squad players elsewhere. players going out are those who want to play for their ambitions (whether villa is going to finish above west ham or not is a separate debate, although a lot of it will center around O'Neill vs Curbishley). it's one perspective - lumping it as anti-westham tripe without bothering to establish context is, well...typical :) 28 (DBeech) – I expected worse, to be honest.

31 (FC) – the idea was debate, yes. the players coming into west ham are players who didn’t want to be squad players elsewhere. players going out are those who want to play for their ambitions (whether villa is going to finish above west ham or not is a separate debate, although a lot of it will center around O’Neill vs Curbishley).

it’s one perspective – lumping it as anti-westham tripe without bothering to establish context is, well…typical :)

]]> By: Fifth Column http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53123 Fifth Column Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:19:47 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53123 D Beech I imagine it is taken as criticism of West Ham as his headline for the article was, "West Ham - beacon for squad players as ambitious players bail out" Agreed that the content was fine... obviously just to provoke debate which it indeed has done. Also, the top earner at West Ham is on £55K p/w basic wages. That goes for Neill et al. It appears true that Bent and Tevez were offered more than that but no-one at West Ham on more than £55K. Everything else is media #### D Beech

I imagine it is taken as criticism of West Ham as his headline for the article was,

“West Ham – beacon for squad players as ambitious players bail out”

Agreed that the content was fine… obviously just to provoke debate which it indeed has done.

Also, the top earner at West Ham is on £55K p/w basic wages. That goes for Neill et al.

It appears true that Bent and Tevez were offered more than that but no-one at West Ham on more than £55K.

Everything else is media ####

]]> By: emmanuel http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53116 emmanuel Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:43:04 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53116 bob, what are you on about and tevez is an international player who has won south american player twice in a row at the age of 22 and darren bent was the highest goalscoring englishmen the season before, nigel reo-coker lead westam to the fa cup final at the age of 22 and lead englands u21 to the semi finals of the european cup. So frankly they have have proven themselves in England and they have done more than the other westham players. bob, what are you on about and tevez is an international player who has won south american player twice in a row at the age of 22 and darren bent was the highest goalscoring englishmen the season before, nigel reo-coker lead westam to the fa cup final at the age of 22 and lead englands u21 to the semi finals of the european cup. So frankly they have have proven themselves in England and they have done more than the other westham players.

]]> By: CWSHSU http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53110 CWSHSU Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:08:49 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/west-ham-beacon-for-squad-players-as-ambitious-players-bail-out/2335/#comment-53110 villa a big club going for glory?????? i dont think so. Tottenham getting into the top 4 like darren bent thinks???????? i dont think so. And if yossi wants to be a squad player at a huge club, then so be it, good on him. and tevez he is out of that genre of players because he is world class and he is the only person who will be furthering himself for title etc......... and west ham is going to be pushing for europe within the next couple of years, hense the calabra of players we are getting!!!!!! villa a big club going for glory?????? i dont think so. Tottenham getting into the top 4 like darren bent thinks???????? i dont think so.
And if yossi wants to be a squad player at a huge club, then so be it, good on him. and tevez he is out of that genre of players because he is world class and he is the only person who will be furthering himself for title etc……… and west ham is going to be pushing for europe within the next couple of years, hense the calabra of players we are getting!!!!!!

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