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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a good 8 years ago, and I am sure that not many fans agreed with the move. I certainly did not. 

Similarly, it is funny how Arsenal fans seem to discount the FA Cup only 3 years after they were overly proud to have won it. You know, Viera&#039;s last game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a good 8 years ago, and I am sure that not many fans agreed with the move. I certainly did not. </p>
<p>Similarly, it is funny how Arsenal fans seem to discount the FA Cup only 3 years after they were overly proud to have won it. You know, Viera&#8217;s last game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunner Romford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunner Romford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;somebody&#039; let me try and understand the point you seem to have obvious difficulty making. You first exagerate the incident which you do acknowledge, then you propose a punishment for an action which did not happen. The referee who saw it at first hand, then the video later is quite happy with the yellow card. Case closed. RIGHT!

P.S. Its nice to know Man U. now care so much for the FA Cup when a few years ago they couldn&#039;t dump it quick enough in their search for foreign lucre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;somebody&#8217; let me try and understand the point you seem to have obvious difficulty making. You first exagerate the incident which you do acknowledge, then you propose a punishment for an action which did not happen. The referee who saw it at first hand, then the video later is quite happy with the yellow card. Case closed. RIGHT!</p>
<p>P.S. Its nice to know Man U. now care so much for the FA Cup when a few years ago they couldn&#8217;t dump it quick enough in their search for foreign lucre.</p>
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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lot&#039;s of hysterics from the Gooners but you&#039;ve just got to love this one from Topgooner: 

&quot;manu are a good side but in tough games they rely on 1 player which is quite poor really, but this 1 player is very good but ac milan man city west ham will tell you its not enough. last season i think he got alot more space and showed how good he is, now clubs snuff him out, also teams in the prem are playing nice fball ie spurs, man city, villa so 1 player dont cut it.&quot;

We assume he&#039;s talking of Ronaldo!!??

Interesting that teams now know how to &quot;snuff him out&quot;........27 goals and counting!

As for 1 man team, obviously this muppet doesn&#039;t watch Utd play often: Rooney, Nani and Anderson made Arsenal look like amateurs on Saturday. I could go on but why bother?

The Arsenal fans on here are wound up tight as a drum, just like their team. 

It&#039;ll be fun to watch it it all unravel in the next couple of months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot&#8217;s of hysterics from the Gooners but you&#8217;ve just got to love this one from Topgooner: </p>
<p>&#8220;manu are a good side but in tough games they rely on 1 player which is quite poor really, but this 1 player is very good but ac milan man city west ham will tell you its not enough. last season i think he got alot more space and showed how good he is, now clubs snuff him out, also teams in the prem are playing nice fball ie spurs, man city, villa so 1 player dont cut it.&#8221;</p>
<p>We assume he&#8217;s talking of Ronaldo!!??</p>
<p>Interesting that teams now know how to &#8220;snuff him out&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..27 goals and counting!</p>
<p>As for 1 man team, obviously this muppet doesn&#8217;t watch Utd play often: Rooney, Nani and Anderson made Arsenal look like amateurs on Saturday. I could go on but why bother?</p>
<p>The Arsenal fans on here are wound up tight as a drum, just like their team. </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be fun to watch it it all unravel in the next couple of months.</p>
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		<title>By: iqnadirshah</title>
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		<dc:creator>iqnadirshah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gallas escapes further punishment from the FA. Demento? What say you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gallas escapes further punishment from the FA. Demento? What say you?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really do cannot agree with the following:
-showboating is bad
-Gallas should have been sent off

OK, I know that Nani&#039;s dribble might have upset the Arsenal players a wee bit, but there is nothing wrong with it. Surely it is no more infuriating to the opposition than either keeping the ball in the corner - something which is not in the least entertaining unless you find throw-is pretty cool - or passing the ball around with the sole aim of keeping possesion at the half way line.

Gallas&#039; hit on Nani was a bit nasty, but by no means worthy of a yellow or a red card. The referee understood that he was frustrated and did just enough to make sure that there would be no more of it. That was fair.

Are Arsenal players/fans sore losers. You bet. Man Utd did not make a racket when our team was given football lessons at the San Siro last year. Roma players behaved admirably in their shocking 7-1 defeat (had that been Wenger&#039;s team it would have ended with an ice-hockey style fight) last year. Bolton did not seem too upset after 5-0 last season and neither did Totteham after a 4-0. However, Arsenal players do have the right to behave like Eboube did and get frustrated enough to hit an opposition player. How come?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really do cannot agree with the following:<br />
-showboating is bad<br />
-Gallas should have been sent off</p>
<p>OK, I know that Nani&#8217;s dribble might have upset the Arsenal players a wee bit, but there is nothing wrong with it. Surely it is no more infuriating to the opposition than either keeping the ball in the corner &#8211; something which is not in the least entertaining unless you find throw-is pretty cool &#8211; or passing the ball around with the sole aim of keeping possesion at the half way line.</p>
<p>Gallas&#8217; hit on Nani was a bit nasty, but by no means worthy of a yellow or a red card. The referee understood that he was frustrated and did just enough to make sure that there would be no more of it. That was fair.</p>
<p>Are Arsenal players/fans sore losers. You bet. Man Utd did not make a racket when our team was given football lessons at the San Siro last year. Roma players behaved admirably in their shocking 7-1 defeat (had that been Wenger&#8217;s team it would have ended with an ice-hockey style fight) last year. Bolton did not seem too upset after 5-0 last season and neither did Totteham after a 4-0. However, Arsenal players do have the right to behave like Eboube did and get frustrated enough to hit an opposition player. How come?</p>
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		<title>By: somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and sorry for making one of my argument to sound like a generalization. Not all arse fans are mean. I mean there are arse fans condemning eboue. If u still support eboue, than let me fuckin wash ur brain. My point is that a blatant kick is still a blatant kick. Its uncalled for in the game ( unless you&#039;re playing american football), be it john terry, cantona, gerard or any other footballer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and sorry for making one of my argument to sound like a generalization. Not all arse fans are mean. I mean there are arse fans condemning eboue. If u still support eboue, than let me fuckin wash ur brain. My point is that a blatant kick is still a blatant kick. Its uncalled for in the game ( unless you&#8217;re playing american football), be it john terry, cantona, gerard or any other footballer.</p>
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		<title>By: somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to gunner romford : Nani&#039;s reaction deemed a wimp? What would u do mate if u get a kick in d arse (thats a bit exaggerated, but it kinda seems so)? Oh well, its back to d playstation right mate? I thought at least gallas should have gotten a yellow for fucks sake. Yeah, I know its wrong to showboat, but does it make it reasonable to kick the bloke? Fuckin hell, we should see a lot of kicking in football then right? Theres ronaldinho.. Oh well, double standard among fans is accepted right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to gunner romford : Nani&#8217;s reaction deemed a wimp? What would u do mate if u get a kick in d arse (thats a bit exaggerated, but it kinda seems so)? Oh well, its back to d playstation right mate? I thought at least gallas should have gotten a yellow for fucks sake. Yeah, I know its wrong to showboat, but does it make it reasonable to kick the bloke? Fuckin hell, we should see a lot of kicking in football then right? Theres ronaldinho.. Oh well, double standard among fans is accepted right?</p>
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		<title>By: SpiralArchitect</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiralArchitect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham Fisher - 

I apologize for the &#039;moron&#039; comment. After posting it i felt it was a bit strong as well. But this IS an old issue that keeps cropping up again &amp; again. I just feel that if Cruyff can get away with it, why not anyone else? And in the end, that incident just made Arsenal look stupid anyway because they didn&#039;t do it right. So what&#039;s the point of rubbing it in? Let the event speak for itself.

Hugo - 

I agree with your point about the &#039;humiliating&#039; aspect of the defeats (plus the fact they were both against long-standing rivals is an additional ulcer). And i do hate it when Wenger acts like a sore loser at times. But SAF has his own version of the &#039;i did not see it&#039; line &amp; so did Mourinho. I just think its important to recognize this fact &amp; also the fact that these guys won&#039;t change much &amp; if they do it will be very slowly. 

Its hard for any team to react well under these kind of circumstances. Gallas should have known better (one of the reasons i was worried about him being captain this season) &amp; i definitely don&#039;t condone these actions. But come the day Spurs/Man Utd act equally negatively, i know there will be a similar article castigating them (&amp; this great game of back &amp; forthing between fans will go on).

As for showboating, we&#039;ll just have to agree to disagree :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham Fisher &#8211; </p>
<p>I apologize for the &#8216;moron&#8217; comment. After posting it i felt it was a bit strong as well. But this IS an old issue that keeps cropping up again &amp; again. I just feel that if Cruyff can get away with it, why not anyone else? And in the end, that incident just made Arsenal look stupid anyway because they didn&#8217;t do it right. So what&#8217;s the point of rubbing it in? Let the event speak for itself.</p>
<p>Hugo &#8211; </p>
<p>I agree with your point about the &#8216;humiliating&#8217; aspect of the defeats (plus the fact they were both against long-standing rivals is an additional ulcer). And i do hate it when Wenger acts like a sore loser at times. But SAF has his own version of the &#8216;i did not see it&#8217; line &amp; so did Mourinho. I just think its important to recognize this fact &amp; also the fact that these guys won&#8217;t change much &amp; if they do it will be very slowly. </p>
<p>Its hard for any team to react well under these kind of circumstances. Gallas should have known better (one of the reasons i was worried about him being captain this season) &amp; i definitely don&#8217;t condone these actions. But come the day Spurs/Man Utd act equally negatively, i know there will be a similar article castigating them (&amp; this great game of back &amp; forthing between fans will go on).</p>
<p>As for showboating, we&#8217;ll just have to agree to disagree <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Graham Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiral,

You make a strong argument. I don&#039;t think suggesting that the Henry penalty was disrespectful was moronic though:)

Arsenal have played some wonderful stuff this season and I certainly have no axe to grind against them. 

As a neutral, I simply feel that the players have not reacted well to either heavy defeat. That&#039;s probably a good thing as nobody should be happy about losing.

What Gallas did was petty and if the FA are consistant then he probably should get a ban. Like Hugo said, the rules are stupid, but hey, they&#039;re the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiral,</p>
<p>You make a strong argument. I don&#8217;t think suggesting that the Henry penalty was disrespectful was moronic though:)</p>
<p>Arsenal have played some wonderful stuff this season and I certainly have no axe to grind against them. </p>
<p>As a neutral, I simply feel that the players have not reacted well to either heavy defeat. That&#8217;s probably a good thing as nobody should be happy about losing.</p>
<p>What Gallas did was petty and if the FA are consistant then he probably should get a ban. Like Hugo said, the rules are stupid, but hey, they&#8217;re the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Steckelmacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Steckelmacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, Spiral - I don&#039;t feel that Arsenal generally have an unfair style of play, although the years prior to the fair play victories did produce a fair few red cards. My point is that under severe pressure and in &quot;humiliating&quot; circumstances (of which there are very few, since Arsenal are having a fantastic season), Arsenal&#039;s players have reacted poorly this season. 

What frustrates me about Wenger is that he is capable of being a great sport, but can also be irritatingly narrow-minded at times too. The &quot;I didn&#039;t see it&quot; line is not just a joke, and you can&#039;t deny that he tends to see things when they go his way, and not vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, Spiral &#8211; I don&#8217;t feel that Arsenal generally have an unfair style of play, although the years prior to the fair play victories did produce a fair few red cards. My point is that under severe pressure and in &#8220;humiliating&#8221; circumstances (of which there are very few, since Arsenal are having a fantastic season), Arsenal&#8217;s players have reacted poorly this season. </p>
<p>What frustrates me about Wenger is that he is capable of being a great sport, but can also be irritatingly narrow-minded at times too. The &#8220;I didn&#8217;t see it&#8221; line is not just a joke, and you can&#8217;t deny that he tends to see things when they go his way, and not vice versa.</p>
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