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		<title>By: Shane Huller</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/we-should-abandon-automatic-qualification/8105/comment-page-1/#comment-97867</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Huller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your comments Rhian Joseph, apart from when you said our points about money are simply weak. They are not weak at all. You can&#039;t tell me that nobody at all was interested in the financial gains that could be had for the country who is hosting a major tournament. Nobody cared how much the government spent to organize the thing because your government knew that hosting such a tournament would only help the financial situation of the host country. This is all getting away from the actual argument now though. The topic is entitled &#039;Should we abandon automatic qualification in Euros and World Cups?&#039; I personally do not think it should be banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your comments Rhian Joseph, apart from when you said our points about money are simply weak. They are not weak at all. You can&#8217;t tell me that nobody at all was interested in the financial gains that could be had for the country who is hosting a major tournament. Nobody cared how much the government spent to organize the thing because your government knew that hosting such a tournament would only help the financial situation of the host country. This is all getting away from the actual argument now though. The topic is entitled &#8216;Should we abandon automatic qualification in Euros and World Cups?&#8217; I personally do not think it should be banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhian,

It would certainly be interesting to see how hosting a football tournament where the home team isn&#039;t participating would play out. And you&#039;re right - home advantage shouldn&#039;t be played like this, although one could certainly make it easier - as #8 suggests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhian,</p>
<p>It would certainly be interesting to see how hosting a football tournament where the home team isn&#8217;t participating would play out. And you&#8217;re right &#8211; home advantage shouldn&#8217;t be played like this, although one could certainly make it easier &#8211; as #8 suggests.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhian Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhian Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Trinidad. A tiny island in the Caribbean. We jumped at the chance to host the Fifa U-17 World Cup when the opportunity  came along. Money didn&#039;t matter. The locals got a chance to see Robinho, Diego, Niko Kranjcar and Messi in person. Yes we got automatic qualification and went out in the first round but it didn&#039;t matter. Stadia were always packed for games. The point is we got that spot simply as a host which was unfair to many other teams. 

On the issue of money,Profit and Loss was a non-issue. No one cared how much our government spent to organize the thing. We all knew we wanted it. The footballers here wanted it. The media wanted it and the people wanted it. What the exposure did for us was much better. Now many more European clubs are willing to give players from our tiny island a shot in the big leagues.Moreover we made ridiculous profits in Tobago from foreigners staying over for the Tournament. Everyone was happy and we would still have been happy to host it regardless of whether we played in it or not. The benefits were already fantastic.

According to Jack Warner Trinidadian and FIFA Vice President, &quot;This is an historic time for sport and the people of Trinidad &amp; Tobago. To hold a FIFA championship is an honour given to few, and now it is our time when the world&#039;s attention will be on our nation and on our people,&quot; 

&quot;We look forward to welcoming the world to our islands ... and to the first football world championship to be held in the Caribbean.&quot;

So host nations especially the smaller ones, don&#039;t care about costs. They don&#039;t need the reward of Automatic qualification for their &#039;troubles&#039;

In that tourney we were drawn into a group with Brazil, Croatia and Australia. We conceded 9 goals with Brazil giving us 6 of the very best. Clearly we were not on the level of these teams and as such the spot we occupied was simply a gesture of goodness by FIFA. But in all honesty, a better team could have had that spot.

Recently, FIFA announced that Trinidad &amp; Tobago and Mexico have been awarded the FIFA Under-17 World Cups in 2010 (Women&#039;s) and 2011 (Men&#039;s), respectively. The country is teeming with anticipation for these events and I do not feel that if we were denied a place that it would change the anticipation.

All this to say your points about money are simply weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Trinidad. A tiny island in the Caribbean. We jumped at the chance to host the Fifa U-17 World Cup when the opportunity  came along. Money didn&#8217;t matter. The locals got a chance to see Robinho, Diego, Niko Kranjcar and Messi in person. Yes we got automatic qualification and went out in the first round but it didn&#8217;t matter. Stadia were always packed for games. The point is we got that spot simply as a host which was unfair to many other teams. </p>
<p>On the issue of money,Profit and Loss was a non-issue. No one cared how much our government spent to organize the thing. We all knew we wanted it. The footballers here wanted it. The media wanted it and the people wanted it. What the exposure did for us was much better. Now many more European clubs are willing to give players from our tiny island a shot in the big leagues.Moreover we made ridiculous profits in Tobago from foreigners staying over for the Tournament. Everyone was happy and we would still have been happy to host it regardless of whether we played in it or not. The benefits were already fantastic.</p>
<p>According to Jack Warner Trinidadian and FIFA Vice President, &#8220;This is an historic time for sport and the people of Trinidad &amp; Tobago. To hold a FIFA championship is an honour given to few, and now it is our time when the world&#8217;s attention will be on our nation and on our people,&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;We look forward to welcoming the world to our islands &#8230; and to the first football world championship to be held in the Caribbean.&#8221;</p>
<p>So host nations especially the smaller ones, don&#8217;t care about costs. They don&#8217;t need the reward of Automatic qualification for their &#8216;troubles&#8217;</p>
<p>In that tourney we were drawn into a group with Brazil, Croatia and Australia. We conceded 9 goals with Brazil giving us 6 of the very best. Clearly we were not on the level of these teams and as such the spot we occupied was simply a gesture of goodness by FIFA. But in all honesty, a better team could have had that spot.</p>
<p>Recently, FIFA announced that Trinidad &amp; Tobago and Mexico have been awarded the FIFA Under-17 World Cups in 2010 (Women&#8217;s) and 2011 (Men&#8217;s), respectively. The country is teeming with anticipation for these events and I do not feel that if we were denied a place that it would change the anticipation.</p>
<p>All this to say your points about money are simply weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhian Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhian Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think #8 Soccer writer has the best solution here. I still do not think that organizing the tournament is enough justification for automatic entry. 

Furthermore saying that the locals won&#039;t be interested if thier country isn&#039;t involved is rubbish. The best football in the world is on display in your own country and you will not support because your country didn&#039;t qualify? That idea is absurd...of course people will come out to see Ronaldo and Ballack and some other greatest players today regardless of if their own nation qualify. Moreover the revenue the contry makes from the influx of supporters very much helps to level out what the spent on organizing themselves. Even further to that these countries jump at the chance to have that kind of exposure. So money is a non-issue for a nation like Switzerland.

The bottom line is a tournament must reflect truth. It must be justified. Therefore automatic qualification compromises truth. I can never be satisfied knowing that Austria walked into a major tournament with their VERY mediocre team many other teams that are way better could have had that spot if Austria had to qualify.

So to reiterate I think #8 has offered the best solution to the problem. The reasons I have read here for allowing them into the tournament are very weak. If you disagree, then you must ask yourself &#039;What is the ultimate purpose of this Tournament&#039; and then ask &#039;how should this be achieved.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think #8 Soccer writer has the best solution here. I still do not think that organizing the tournament is enough justification for automatic entry. </p>
<p>Furthermore saying that the locals won&#8217;t be interested if thier country isn&#8217;t involved is rubbish. The best football in the world is on display in your own country and you will not support because your country didn&#8217;t qualify? That idea is absurd&#8230;of course people will come out to see Ronaldo and Ballack and some other greatest players today regardless of if their own nation qualify. Moreover the revenue the contry makes from the influx of supporters very much helps to level out what the spent on organizing themselves. Even further to that these countries jump at the chance to have that kind of exposure. So money is a non-issue for a nation like Switzerland.</p>
<p>The bottom line is a tournament must reflect truth. It must be justified. Therefore automatic qualification compromises truth. I can never be satisfied knowing that Austria walked into a major tournament with their VERY mediocre team many other teams that are way better could have had that spot if Austria had to qualify.</p>
<p>So to reiterate I think #8 has offered the best solution to the problem. The reasons I have read here for allowing them into the tournament are very weak. If you disagree, then you must ask yourself &#8216;What is the ultimate purpose of this Tournament&#8217; and then ask &#8216;how should this be achieved.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course I meant 2010 World Cup in South Africa rather than 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course I meant 2010 World Cup in South Africa rather than 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the host should be allowed to play in their own tournament. A solution would be simply to stop co-hosting. That&#039;s already 1 extra berth open. 

Besides FIFA uses its tournaments as a vehicle to increase local interest, and/or help financial development of football in that nation. e.g. 1994 and 2012. It would be a rather pointless exercise if the local nation isn&#039;t taking part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the host should be allowed to play in their own tournament. A solution would be simply to stop co-hosting. That&#8217;s already 1 extra berth open. </p>
<p>Besides FIFA uses its tournaments as a vehicle to increase local interest, and/or help financial development of football in that nation. e.g. 1994 and 2012. It would be a rather pointless exercise if the local nation isn&#8217;t taking part.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/we-should-abandon-automatic-qualification/8105/comment-page-1/#comment-95887</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 - I heard it was colder than usual. what &#039;summer flavour&#039; were you after? &lt;a href=&quot;http://babes.soccerlens.com/world-cup-2006-babes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://babes.soccerlens.com/euro-2008-babes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 &#8211; I heard it was colder than usual. what &#8217;summer flavour&#8217; were you after? <a href="http://babes.soccerlens.com/world-cup-2006-babes/" rel="nofollow">This</a>, or <a href="http://babes.soccerlens.com/euro-2008-babes/" rel="nofollow">this</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say it short, a 20 team tournament looks like there would not be a drop in quality, letting in 8 more after 16 seems to be a bit more of a risk at a drop in the quality of games but as for this tournament, some teams were quite close to the same in talent level such as Turkey and Croatia. They had no breathing room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say it short, a 20 team tournament looks like there would not be a drop in quality, letting in 8 more after 16 seems to be a bit more of a risk at a drop in the quality of games but as for this tournament, some teams were quite close to the same in talent level such as Turkey and Croatia. They had no breathing room.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Millan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Millan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peejay#16, thats just the bitter taste of not qualifying, nothing to do with the calibre of the tournament, which was excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peejay#16, thats just the bitter taste of not qualifying, nothing to do with the calibre of the tournament, which was excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/we-should-abandon-automatic-qualification/8105/comment-page-1/#comment-95549</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letting home nations qualify is the right thing to do, although in a 16-nation tournament hosted by 2 countries it really does suck for those who have to qualify. Perhaps a more reasonable alternative would be to force the Euros to be held in one country only.

However, I doubt that will happen. Platini is pushing for a 24-team European Championship and that will only encourage dual-hosts and possibly reduce this &#039;quality&#039; issue we&#039;re having. I disagree with the 24-team format - championships are for the best teams, the rewards should be made higher and perhaps the teams should play more than 3 group games, but other than that 16 teams should be kept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letting home nations qualify is the right thing to do, although in a 16-nation tournament hosted by 2 countries it really does suck for those who have to qualify. Perhaps a more reasonable alternative would be to force the Euros to be held in one country only.</p>
<p>However, I doubt that will happen. Platini is pushing for a 24-team European Championship and that will only encourage dual-hosts and possibly reduce this &#8216;quality&#8217; issue we&#8217;re having. I disagree with the 24-team format &#8211; championships are for the best teams, the rewards should be made higher and perhaps the teams should play more than 3 group games, but other than that 16 teams should be kept.</p>
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