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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it relates really to the whole issue of players being racially abused throughout particular areas of Europe at times. Nobody forgot Eto&#039;o threatening to leave Barca, England&#039;s friendly with Spain in 2004 (Cole and SWP), problems in Italy and last but not least, Eastern Europe has had it&#039;s share of problems.

It&#039;s somewhat surprising then, and refreshing, to see Shakhtar when they had Aghahowa, Okoronkwo and N&#039;Diaye. Dinamo Kiev signed a couple of black players in recent years I think, and there is CSKA, who Advocaat refers to in the article, with the likes of Wagner Love etc. There seems to have been a gradual and slow introduction of black players into football in Eastern Europe, which is always a good thing. How they have enjoyed and found their lives there I honestly don&#039;t know much about.

Totally agree with you on the article though. I wonder how CSKA&#039;s foreign players found their experiences when visiting Zenit in the Russian league for instance. It&#039;s a sad indictment, and UEFA certainly don&#039;t do enough in my opinion. (See Roma and Turkish clubs in Europe for my own views, yet when something happens with an English club they clamp down instantly).

Hopefully one day things will improve...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it relates really to the whole issue of players being racially abused throughout particular areas of Europe at times. Nobody forgot Eto&#8217;o threatening to leave Barca, England&#8217;s friendly with Spain in 2004 (Cole and SWP), problems in Italy and last but not least, Eastern Europe has had it&#8217;s share of problems.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s somewhat surprising then, and refreshing, to see Shakhtar when they had Aghahowa, Okoronkwo and N&#8217;Diaye. Dinamo Kiev signed a couple of black players in recent years I think, and there is CSKA, who Advocaat refers to in the article, with the likes of Wagner Love etc. There seems to have been a gradual and slow introduction of black players into football in Eastern Europe, which is always a good thing. How they have enjoyed and found their lives there I honestly don&#8217;t know much about.</p>
<p>Totally agree with you on the article though. I wonder how CSKA&#8217;s foreign players found their experiences when visiting Zenit in the Russian league for instance. It&#8217;s a sad indictment, and UEFA certainly don&#8217;t do enough in my opinion. (See Roma and Turkish clubs in Europe for my own views, yet when something happens with an English club they clamp down instantly).</p>
<p>Hopefully one day things will improve&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I haven&#039;t read that yet but just skimmed the first lines really, I will read it now. I did hear about some problems, can&#039;t remember which website it was on (it may well have been Zenit&#039;s, Rangers&#039; or the Manchester/Belfast/Glasgow press or Skysports) but I read about some problems with Zenit fans chanting and racially abusing players. Will give it a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I haven&#8217;t read that yet but just skimmed the first lines really, I will read it now. I did hear about some problems, can&#8217;t remember which website it was on (it may well have been Zenit&#8217;s, Rangers&#8217; or the Manchester/Belfast/Glasgow press or Skysports) but I read about some problems with Zenit fans chanting and racially abusing players. Will give it a read.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zenit cannot lose by enough goals to satisfy me after reading the times of London today.
http://startingeleven.blogspot.com/2008/05/uefa-cup-final-hypocritical-advocaat.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zenit cannot lose by enough goals to satisfy me after reading the times of London today.<br />
<a href="http://startingeleven.blogspot.com/2008/05/uefa-cup-final-hypocritical-advocaat.html" rel="nofollow">http://startingeleven.blogspot.com/2008/05/uefa-cup-final-hypocritical-advocaat.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historyman,

Thanks for the comment. I am sure the image will be fine from what I have been hearing from back home, and also looking at pictures in the relative cities&#039; press. I suppose with a crowd that large there is always going to be some issue somewhere along the line. Perhaps subconsciously I brought up a Celtic comparison, but in fact I was just hoping to promote what wonderful support both clubs have, it is unrivalled.

As for the game, isn&#039;t Zenit&#039;s star man suspended? That is sure to be a big blow from the booking against Bayern. Just hope it will be a good occasion, from Rangers&#039; previous fixutres in this competition and also Zenit having their star forward out, goals seem unlikely and finals are usually tentative affairs but hopefully it will be a good atmosphere that will drive both sets of players on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historyman,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I am sure the image will be fine from what I have been hearing from back home, and also looking at pictures in the relative cities&#8217; press. I suppose with a crowd that large there is always going to be some issue somewhere along the line. Perhaps subconsciously I brought up a Celtic comparison, but in fact I was just hoping to promote what wonderful support both clubs have, it is unrivalled.</p>
<p>As for the game, isn&#8217;t Zenit&#8217;s star man suspended? That is sure to be a big blow from the booking against Bayern. Just hope it will be a good occasion, from Rangers&#8217; previous fixutres in this competition and also Zenit having their star forward out, goals seem unlikely and finals are usually tentative affairs but hopefully it will be a good atmosphere that will drive both sets of players on.</p>
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		<title>By: historyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>historyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that the Rangers fans behave themselves whatever the result of the final is. They seem to have more of an image problem than the Celtic support, and the last thing that the club needs is the slinging of yet more mud through the press.

Enjoy the game?  Only if Zenit throw everything they have at Rangers. They are exhausted at the end of a gruelling season, still in the hunt for four trophies. Some commentators have labelled their tactics &#039;anti-football&#039;, which is unfair, but Rangers&#039; game plan must take their limitations into account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that the Rangers fans behave themselves whatever the result of the final is. They seem to have more of an image problem than the Celtic support, and the last thing that the club needs is the slinging of yet more mud through the press.</p>
<p>Enjoy the game?  Only if Zenit throw everything they have at Rangers. They are exhausted at the end of a gruelling season, still in the hunt for four trophies. Some commentators have labelled their tactics &#8216;anti-football&#8217;, which is unfair, but Rangers&#8217; game plan must take their limitations into account.</p>
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