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		<title>By: Robbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the &#039;provocation&#039; and &#039;Ade inciting a riot&#039; comments are such rubbish. So he sprinted 90 yards down the field to make a point, so what? It&#039;s not big, it&#039;s not clever, but it&#039;s also not that big a deal. To use that as an excuse for the way (some of) the Arsenal fans behaved, to try and make that somehow seem justified is deflecting people&#039;s own responsibilities. Involuntarily, you are suggesting the first reason Sam mentioned in his article, the one he called &quot;so patronising and wrong that I really hope it isn’t true&quot;, is in fact correct after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the &#8216;provocation&#8217; and &#8216;Ade inciting a riot&#8217; comments are such rubbish. So he sprinted 90 yards down the field to make a point, so what? It&#8217;s not big, it&#8217;s not clever, but it&#8217;s also not that big a deal. To use that as an excuse for the way (some of) the Arsenal fans behaved, to try and make that somehow seem justified is deflecting people&#8217;s own responsibilities. Involuntarily, you are suggesting the first reason Sam mentioned in his article, the one he called &#8220;so patronising and wrong that I really hope it isn’t true&#8221;, is in fact correct after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Cem Sinan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cem Sinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, thanks for the that link. It was a great article with valid points but a very scary one too if you&#039;re a football fan. While I wrote my section above yesterday I had a thought that one day the supporters would watch games behind some sort of plastic screen. The article you suggested also refered to that same thought which is a very scary. It pains me to want bans on my own supporters (arsenal), but I really do hope something is done about violent fans, but I know somehow the FA will go overboard and punish the fans who wouldn&#039;t dream of acting like that too. Last season 9 Spurs fans were identified and ban from football for chant sexual abuse at Sol Campbell, so I think these fans should get the same treatment. 

About the state of rules and regulations, I cannot believe that &quot;footballs may be kicked into the crowd during warm up&quot; was announced before a game. Who are these people trying to protect? What kind of people are going to football games these days? My uncle took me to my first football game when we lived in Turkey. I was 4 years old in 1989, and we supported Galatasaray. You may or may not know but Ali Samiyen Stadium (Glaatasaray&#039;s ground) is one of the most hostile football grounds in europe hence the ground&#039;s slogan &#039;Welcome to Hell&#039;. I&#039;m pretty sure me being hit by a football was the least of my uncles worries. If I was lucky enough to be it by a ball it would have added to the excitement. As I was so young, I don&#039;t remember the game but I do remember some sort of Buzz from 40,000 fans creating an amazing atmosphere which is probably why I love going to football games today. 

It looks like more and more petty rules are going to be introduced and totally kill traditional football ground atmospheres which is a sorry thought and one that worries me. There should be rules to protect real football fans who love going to games to support their team and feel part of the atmosphere. My suggestions are below. 
1.if you are worried about a ball being kicked in your face DO NOT go to a game, go to the pub. 
2.if your ears cannot take foul language DO NOT go to a game, go to the pub. 
3. if you can&#039;t be bothered to sing for your team DO NOT go to the game...... you get my drift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, thanks for the that link. It was a great article with valid points but a very scary one too if you&#8217;re a football fan. While I wrote my section above yesterday I had a thought that one day the supporters would watch games behind some sort of plastic screen. The article you suggested also refered to that same thought which is a very scary. It pains me to want bans on my own supporters (arsenal), but I really do hope something is done about violent fans, but I know somehow the FA will go overboard and punish the fans who wouldn&#8217;t dream of acting like that too. Last season 9 Spurs fans were identified and ban from football for chant sexual abuse at Sol Campbell, so I think these fans should get the same treatment. </p>
<p>About the state of rules and regulations, I cannot believe that &#8220;footballs may be kicked into the crowd during warm up&#8221; was announced before a game. Who are these people trying to protect? What kind of people are going to football games these days? My uncle took me to my first football game when we lived in Turkey. I was 4 years old in 1989, and we supported Galatasaray. You may or may not know but Ali Samiyen Stadium (Glaatasaray&#8217;s ground) is one of the most hostile football grounds in europe hence the ground&#8217;s slogan &#8216;Welcome to Hell&#8217;. I&#8217;m pretty sure me being hit by a football was the least of my uncles worries. If I was lucky enough to be it by a ball it would have added to the excitement. As I was so young, I don&#8217;t remember the game but I do remember some sort of Buzz from 40,000 fans creating an amazing atmosphere which is probably why I love going to football games today. </p>
<p>It looks like more and more petty rules are going to be introduced and totally kill traditional football ground atmospheres which is a sorry thought and one that worries me. There should be rules to protect real football fans who love going to games to support their team and feel part of the atmosphere. My suggestions are below.<br />
1.if you are worried about a ball being kicked in your face DO NOT go to a game, go to the pub.<br />
2.if your ears cannot take foul language DO NOT go to a game, go to the pub.<br />
3. if you can&#8217;t be bothered to sing for your team DO NOT go to the game&#8230;&#8230; you get my drift.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, along with a million other supporters, are always moaning about clubs and the FA taking the edge out of supporters and the atmosphere at grounds with petty rules, but its people like those at the eastlands that are really responsible.

That&#039;s spot on Cem. The problem is that it just means we get more and more petty rules to counter things like this which in turn kill the atmosphere. Have a read of this if you&#039;re of that opinion.

http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2009/09/where-the-blame-lies-as-city-supporters-are-warned-about-flying-footballs-and-arsenal-fans-throw-objects-at-their-former-player/

Wibble Wobble, I agree with you on your opinions on top-flight football and we can only hope that the bubble eventually bursts and we get some sort of fairness in football. (But that&#039;s a story for another day) The problem is that this sort of thing affects all of us watching football at every level. And I still don&#039;t understand why you think there should be any sort of correlation between how much someone gets paid and how they behave!

Nick, I apologise if I was wrong but I got my information from this article- http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/13/emmanuel-adebayor-manchester-city-arsenal. Maybe it&#039;s just lazy research on my part. And to be honest I don&#039;t keep up with world football enough to even have known about that. But having just read about it, it doesn&#039;t look particularly pretty, especially if the referees the one the most intimidated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, along with a million other supporters, are always moaning about clubs and the FA taking the edge out of supporters and the atmosphere at grounds with petty rules, but its people like those at the eastlands that are really responsible.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s spot on Cem. The problem is that it just means we get more and more petty rules to counter things like this which in turn kill the atmosphere. Have a read of this if you&#8217;re of that opinion.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2009/09/where-the-blame-lies-as-city-supporters-are-warned-about-flying-footballs-and-arsenal-fans-throw-objects-at-their-former-player/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2009/09/where-the-blame-lies-as-city-supporters-are-warned-about-flying-footballs-and-arsenal-fans-throw-objects-at-their-former-player/</a></p>
<p>Wibble Wobble, I agree with you on your opinions on top-flight football and we can only hope that the bubble eventually bursts and we get some sort of fairness in football. (But that&#8217;s a story for another day) The problem is that this sort of thing affects all of us watching football at every level. And I still don&#8217;t understand why you think there should be any sort of correlation between how much someone gets paid and how they behave!</p>
<p>Nick, I apologise if I was wrong but I got my information from this article- <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/13/emmanuel-adebayor-manchester-city-arsenal" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/13/emmanuel-adebayor-manchester-city-arsenal</a>. Maybe it&#8217;s just lazy research on my part. And to be honest I don&#8217;t keep up with world football enough to even have known about that. But having just read about it, it doesn&#8217;t look particularly pretty, especially if the referees the one the most intimidated.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy was out for a few seconds and sat on the sidelines for 5 min, not unconscious for 5 min... If you are going to ridicule people you should make sure you don&#039;t have to exaggerate facts to make them look bad.

Yes throwing bottles and such onto the field is a bad idea that should be punished, but don&#039;t try to compare this to pitch invasion.  Where were you when US forward Landon Donovan got hit by missiles thrown by Mexico fans at Azteca Stadium?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy was out for a few seconds and sat on the sidelines for 5 min, not unconscious for 5 min&#8230; If you are going to ridicule people you should make sure you don&#8217;t have to exaggerate facts to make them look bad.</p>
<p>Yes throwing bottles and such onto the field is a bad idea that should be punished, but don&#8217;t try to compare this to pitch invasion.  Where were you when US forward Landon Donovan got hit by missiles thrown by Mexico fans at Azteca Stadium?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Arsenal season ticket holder, I would of love to have seen Adebayor use half the energy he used to sprint the length of the pitch last season. Football fans are not idiots (well not all!) and could see as clear as day that Adebayor was on a go slow for the whole of the 08/09 season. Funny what a £100,000 a week pay rise can do for your energy levels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Arsenal season ticket holder, I would of love to have seen Adebayor use half the energy he used to sprint the length of the pitch last season. Football fans are not idiots (well not all!) and could see as clear as day that Adebayor was on a go slow for the whole of the 08/09 season. Funny what a £100,000 a week pay rise can do for your energy levels!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your piece was out of line. adebayo&#039;s celebration was inciting enough to cause a riot. a moment of madness running the length of a football pitch to celebrate in front of visiting fans!! absolutely crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your piece was out of line. adebayo&#8217;s celebration was inciting enough to cause a riot. a moment of madness running the length of a football pitch to celebrate in front of visiting fans!! absolutely crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Wibble Wobble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wibble Wobble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bellwaldron - sorry, had better things to do. No, no comment on that as I wasn&#039;t aware, but if the behaviour was of a similar type to Adebayor&#039;s, then he should be treated similarly. TBH, most of the time I couldn&#039;t give two figs about the overpriced, overpaid crud in the top level of English football, particularly where overspending, competition distorting, financially flush newbies are concerned, but if a minority of people commenting on this case are just going to resort to the default &#039;it&#039;s the fans&#039; fault&#039; then I&#039;m quite happy to stick my oar in and defend them. If he gets paid as much as is reported - £180k a week - then he should employ a very expensive cognitive behavioural therapist to help him deal with taunting. Precious little baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bellwaldron &#8211; sorry, had better things to do. No, no comment on that as I wasn&#8217;t aware, but if the behaviour was of a similar type to Adebayor&#8217;s, then he should be treated similarly. TBH, most of the time I couldn&#8217;t give two figs about the overpriced, overpaid crud in the top level of English football, particularly where overspending, competition distorting, financially flush newbies are concerned, but if a minority of people commenting on this case are just going to resort to the default &#8216;it&#8217;s the fans&#8217; fault&#8217; then I&#8217;m quite happy to stick my oar in and defend them. If he gets paid as much as is reported &#8211; £180k a week &#8211; then he should employ a very expensive cognitive behavioural therapist to help him deal with taunting. Precious little baby.</p>
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		<title>By: alex fergie</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex fergie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>van persie scores runs over to man city fans and yells  &quot;F**K you all&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>van persie scores runs over to man city fans and yells  &#8220;F**K you all&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong is wrong and one should not shy away from the responsibility. As as Arsenal fan I am too sad to see such a reaction from fellow fans.

But there is anger within the fans. Because we have been jeered for years now. People love to jeer arsenal fans. (number of articles on Edurado and the incidents in Manchester City match are proof enough) So no we cannot take it neither can any other fan. So stop jeering.

But when an ex-player jeer, it just went out of control. 

P.S. who ever throwed the missle had a very bad aim.
P.P.S. for more proof see the forums and no of replies that are in negative to this post. It prove people love to hate Arsenal and its fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong is wrong and one should not shy away from the responsibility. As as Arsenal fan I am too sad to see such a reaction from fellow fans.</p>
<p>But there is anger within the fans. Because we have been jeered for years now. People love to jeer arsenal fans. (number of articles on Edurado and the incidents in Manchester City match are proof enough) So no we cannot take it neither can any other fan. So stop jeering.</p>
<p>But when an ex-player jeer, it just went out of control. </p>
<p>P.S. who ever throwed the missle had a very bad aim.<br />
P.P.S. for more proof see the forums and no of replies that are in negative to this post. It prove people love to hate Arsenal and its fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Cem Sinan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cem Sinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I think you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head! 

As an Arsenal fan I was disgusted with the way Adebayor was playing. The Stamp on Van Persie was awful and there was a stamp on Cesc&#039;s ankle which was horrible too. It&#039;s amazing a man can be so ungrateful to a club that made him. The man has no class and I&#039;m happy he has left Arsenal. 

I don&#039;t think the celebration was wrong. He got booed, he got abused and he scored.
When you score you gain the right to brag and he did just that. My fellow supporters should have not reacted. When you wind up somebody always expect it back, its called banter. Instead they acted like little mindless twits and eventually hurt a steward. 

Me, along with a million other supporters, are always moaning about clubs and the FA taking the edge out of supporters and the atmosphere at grounds with petty rules, but its people like those at the eastlands that are really responsible. I wish football fans could grow up and support their team and have banter with other supporters without wanting to kill each other. Isn&#039;t that why become football fans and not UFC fans, for the banter and the buzz from being part of a club. 

So once again, I don&#039;t believe Ade&#039;s celebration should be an issue. I remember the days Thierry Henry used to score and run around with his finger on his lips to shut the opposition fans up. It makes the fans feel part of the game, which is why we go to games, otherwise you could just sit in a pub and watch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I think you&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head! </p>
<p>As an Arsenal fan I was disgusted with the way Adebayor was playing. The Stamp on Van Persie was awful and there was a stamp on Cesc&#8217;s ankle which was horrible too. It&#8217;s amazing a man can be so ungrateful to a club that made him. The man has no class and I&#8217;m happy he has left Arsenal. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the celebration was wrong. He got booed, he got abused and he scored.<br />
When you score you gain the right to brag and he did just that. My fellow supporters should have not reacted. When you wind up somebody always expect it back, its called banter. Instead they acted like little mindless twits and eventually hurt a steward. </p>
<p>Me, along with a million other supporters, are always moaning about clubs and the FA taking the edge out of supporters and the atmosphere at grounds with petty rules, but its people like those at the eastlands that are really responsible. I wish football fans could grow up and support their team and have banter with other supporters without wanting to kill each other. Isn&#8217;t that why become football fans and not UFC fans, for the banter and the buzz from being part of a club. </p>
<p>So once again, I don&#8217;t believe Ade&#8217;s celebration should be an issue. I remember the days Thierry Henry used to score and run around with his finger on his lips to shut the opposition fans up. It makes the fans feel part of the game, which is why we go to games, otherwise you could just sit in a pub and watch it.</p>
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