Thoughts on Hull City 1-3 Manchester United

Thoughts on Hull City 1-3 Manchester United

A flattering and at times thoroughly undeserved 3-1 victory at the KC stadium saw us finally capitalise on Chelsea’s poor recent form as we closed the gap at the top to 2 points. However, before we get too carried away with the score-line and effect of the result, let’s bring a bit Scrooge’s miserly wisdom into the proceeding as we focus briefly, yet solely, on the ‘flattering’ and ‘undeserved’ parts.

The team-sheet encouragingly suggested that our injury woes were rapidly becoming a thing of the past; as the more familiar backline of Rafael, Brown, Vidic and, of course, Evra, took to the field; with Fletcher and Carrick back to their more natural roles in central midfield. Even our latest potential injury victim – Berbatov, after it was revealed earlier this week he needed knee surgery– played through the pain barrier to start up-front with Rooney and give our attack an utterly intimidating feel.

Yet, as was to be expected given our poor run of form (and by ‘run of form’, I mean pretty much the entire season) we gifted the opposition too many opportunities; opportunities you feel that a more able, more threatening side would have severely punished us for.

We were simply unable to maintain possession for considerable periods of time, with our passing – special mention going to Giggs, Carrick and surprisingly Valencia – being clean cut shocking. Even Evra, for the second game running, was unable to deal with his winger, resulting in an overly careless and costly display. So much so that, due to a number of avoidable errors, he was forced into committing about several fouls – at least 3 of them bookable – yet for all his efforts to get sent-off was only granted a solitary yellow card…perhaps the pressure got to Mr.Wiley on his first United game since that Sunderland draw?

picsrv.manutd2 Thoughts on Hull City 1 3 Manchester United

In the first half we played amongst our most sloppy, wasteful football of the season; yet, as is typical when you adopt the ‘champions’ tag, we went in at the break with a 1-0 lead after Rooney netted one of our few genuine chances of the game.
As the first-half lingered and withered away, with Andy Gray insisting Ferguson will be having stern words in order to try and sort out our mistake ridden performance, Fletcher squeezed a cross into Rooney (via the slightest of Giggs deflections) to make it 1-0 in first half injury time.

For all Hull’s resilience and ambition they showed through maintain possession (an incredible 61% at full-time), it was us who undeservedly took the lead; thus allowing Fergie a slightly more relaxed chat at half-time.

It was much of the same in the second, yet thanks to a consistently shite passing display and further lapse in concentration, it inevitably got that bit worse. Our wasteful possession and slapdash style was finally punished when Rooney carelessly gave the ball away inside the area, which lead to Rafael conceding a penalty.

Out of the four score-lines that occurred throughout the day – from 1-0 to the final result – I honestly felt the most realistic based on performance and general effort levels from both sides was this, at 1-1. It would have taught us a lesson in ‘how to play shit, seemingly get away with it but then rightly get punished’, however, going back to United’s eternal ‘the sign of true Champions’ mantra: we had an off day that will instead go down as deceptively convincing 3-1 victory.

Our second goal, that effectively ended Hull’s enthusiastic challenge, was a decent counter-attack that was created by Rooney and, to unjustly rub salt into Hull’s wound, scored by Hull defender Dawson. To round off Wayne’s eclectic day (and Hull’s ever more embarrassing day), he was yet again involved in the fourth and final goal of the afternoon to redeem himself of his error for their goal.

Leaping onto a loose ball, he brilliantly passed to the wanting Berbatov at the far post; playing it through Gardner’s legs. Another fine move calculated by Wazza that will round off a good away victory and conveniently reject any suggestion of United’s sloppy football.

picsrv.manutd4 Thoughts on Hull City 1 3 Manchester United

Again, I DO understand that I should be, as all United fans undoubtedly are, clinging onto the final reality of the game and the positive result; as the win has brought us that bit closer to wasteful Chelsea, but I cant help feeling disappointed at the display and the more pressing realisation that we currently lack passion, determination and overall fight. The 2 winning goals were actually rather impressive, but how much space and time are we realistically going to be given, as were today, against stronger opposition? And how frequently will teams fail to punish us as Hull did and instead grant us the opportunity to spark the odd flash of brilliance in order to eliminate all our wrongs?

Sloppy football from United has been a reoccurring theme of late, yet unlike Fulham or Villa before them, Hullgenerously made us look good when realistically we were way below par…or is to win without playing well simply the sign of Champions? I get confused…

Topics: English Premier League, Hull City, Manchester United, Match Reports, Wayne Rooney

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4 Comments

  1. BD Condell

    The thing with you POS is that the glass is always half empty! Yes, overall I thought we were very poor but to counter your report let me offer the following:

    1.Yes, we finally had 4 defenders at the back but 3 were returning from injury (probably rushed back) so some forgiveness due if they were not on top of their game.

    2.Yes, we had Carrick and Fletch back in the middle….trying to adjust from several games at the back.

    3.Hull are a decent team at home and up to this game had only lost 2 of 9 games on their own turf.

    4.Kuz was excellent when needed and is starting to look like a quality keeper.

    5.If it had finished 1-1 you’d be back to the ‘loss of Ronnie’ and Utd lacking anyone to dig them out of a hole. Rooney, ably assisted by Giggs and Berba did this and in the end we were comfortable.

    No team is currently ‘playing like Champions’ but we’ve had a bad run of injuries and are right on the pace.

    We’ve won 9 of our 19 games by more than a single goal compared with 6 last season (same stage). But, of course, that’s irrelavent because we are crap this year and were outstanding last!

    For me the glass is always half full! ;)

    December 29th, 2009 @ 13:48
  2. The Cockney Red

    Glass half-empty or realistic mate? Trust me, it’s the best way to be. If we win FA then I won’t be down, instead full of entitled arrogance, yet if we do, it will be the most unexpected magical feeling ever. There’s no point having expectations in this League during THIS crazy season. It won’t get you anywhere.
    Also, a general point: please wake-up to the fact (OUTSIDE those bloody stat’s) that we are evidently not the same team any more. Solely Ronaldo’s absence? No, I don’t think so. There is just something missing: that classic resolute United side, full of compassion, undying fight and spirit that means we will win no matter what. I have to admit, the way in which we got the second (and third) goal out of nowhere was impressive, especially as (I mentioned) it was looking like 1-1 was the most fair, realistic scoreline. But we haven’t seen anything like that enough this season. If you have all the answers and a pocket book full of stats, why have so many teams – in fact, nearly every team we’ve played against this season – done a great job in making us look so damn average?? And come on mate, ‘Hull are a decent team at home…’ ??? We’re UNITED, we shouldn’t give a sh*t if teams like Hull haven’t lost many games at home. Do you think anyone really approached that game thinking anything other than a United win, or ‘Oooh you better watch out for Brown’s lot. They’ve only lost 2 games at home this season’? Instead though, we were awful for about 80% of the game…yet LUCKILY we won it when we performed alright for 20% of it!

    December 29th, 2009 @ 15:30
  3. scottish tiger

    how many times are we going to hear the phrase that we must ‘take heart from the performance of hull city’?

    We’re 2nd from bottom and whether we played well at manchester and arsenal doesn’t matter we lost by more than 1 goal, we have a terrible goal difference and we dropped 3 more points. When you’re in the premier league, just because teams like man u spend tens of millions on players, and are higher up in the league than you, it doesn’t mean that they are entitled to victory (though sometimes they think they are). You should try and beat everyone becuase every point we can scrape is vital when things look so dismal. This is the important part of the season and now the pressures on, we can’t nit-pick who we beat just because the odds are stacked against us, we’ve got man u, chelsea, arsenal and liverpool all in this half of the campaign.

    We could have had a much better result- and deserved one, the team was wrong, the substatutions we wrong, come on hull, have faith!!!

    December 29th, 2009 @ 19:55
  4. BD Condell

    @Pos: “If we win FA then I won’t be down, instead full of entitled arrogance”

    You’re beyond arrogance already so what’s that going to be like!! I, like many Utd fans, am positively cautious about our chances of trophies this season (I tipped Chelsea) but WAY more positive about how it has gone so far than you. You sound positively enthusiastic about us winning nothing…and that says it all!

    And: “If you have all the answers and a pocket book full of stats, why have so many teams – in fact, nearly every team we’ve played against this season – done a great job in making us look so damn average??”

    Back to your perceptions I see! Well here’s some news…your perception is absolute bollocks!

    -Wigan 5-0 (how it took nerarly an hour for the breakthough is a mystery)
    -Spurs 3-1
    -City 4-3 (mauled them in the 2nd half)
    -Stoke 2-0 (5 or 6 wouldn’t have flattered us)
    -Chelsea 0-1 (great peformance and robbed)
    -Everton 3-0 (in first gear if I remember)
    -Portsmouth 4-1 (maybe 2nd gear there)
    -West Ham 4-0

    All quality performances.

    Then we had:
    -Wolves 3-0 (they didn’t turn up but we beat them playing in neutral)
    -Birmingham, Bolton, Blackburn and Hull. Job done…nothing great….as happens in every season.

    Your comments on Hull and their home record “we’re Utd” etc. smacks of juvenile arrogance.

    You never present anything substantive to support your view. Learn this: debate and argument is negotiated through reasoned facts and persuasion.

    Presented with the facts of points won v last season, goals scored (a major debating point and worry for Utd fans pre season) and the fact that Utd have won 9 games by more than a single goal this season which is 50% better than last…you choose to disregard these substantive facts….because that’s all rubbish compared with your (unfounded) insight.

    You disregard the huge defensive issues Utd have had (do I need to remind you again: Rio and VDS just 5 games in 19?). You disregard the experimentation that had to happen post Ronnie….in fact you disregard everything that doesn’t suit your perception and offer NO evidence to support your sad, pessimistic nonsense.

    But let me finish with this extract from the BBC website today:
    “Considering the injury list they have had to put up with this season – now added to by goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar being given indefinite compassionate leave for family reasons – United’s performance is all the more impressive.

    And their goal-scoring record – 40 in 19 Premier League games – is particularly eye-catching bearing in mind the loss of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid in the summer.

    “People looked at us losing Ronaldo and saw that as being crucial,” said Ferguson.

    “They felt we wouldn’t be nearly as good without him. Cristiano was an unbelievable player. But we have adjusted to it. There is only one point difference.”

    So there’s a BBC journalist and SAF disagreeing with you while pointing to some of the facts I have alluded to but you choose to disregard.

    But WTF, your ‘perception’ rules….with or without substantiation! Bullshit!

    December 30th, 2009 @ 13:42

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