Comments on: Why are Real Madrid, Barcelona, Arsenal, Inter, Celtic, Bayern and PSV so desperate NOT to win their leagues? http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/ Soccerlens - Football News You Can Trust Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:26:47 -0800 http://soccerlens.com/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Frankie http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-84045 Frankie Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:17:23 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-84045 This Sunday, if United beat Liverpool and Arsenal lose to Chelsea, the title is over for Arsenal. To have a realistic chance, Arsenal must beat Chelsea i.e. inflict a home defeat on Chelsea (in the league) for the first time in 4 years. Arsenal were the last team to do it ... This Sunday, if United beat Liverpool and Arsenal lose to Chelsea, the title is over for Arsenal.

To have a realistic chance, Arsenal must beat Chelsea i.e. inflict a home defeat on Chelsea (in the league) for the first time in 4 years. Arsenal were the last team to do it …

]]> By: sandro http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83889 sandro Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:16:46 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83889 i think the other leagues (spain, italy, germany & france) are in tact. the league leaders right now are bound to win the titles. esp since ALL of them are also out of the CL. as for arsenal, its been very disappointing to see them lose a 5 point lead so DAMN EASY!!! i think arsenal have been most surprising, but if they get back their form (winning form) in the last 8 matches, i can see arsenal winning the title. there is still the matter of arsenal vs manchester united to settle. although i think it is a man utd home match. i think winning against milan have gotten them a bit slack on the league, a title that is in their grasp rather than the CL. i think it is impossible for arsenal to win the CL. but the EPL should be their primary target, which they are fooling around with a bit too much. i think the other leagues (spain, italy, germany & france) are in tact. the league leaders right now are bound to win the titles. esp since ALL of them are also out of the CL. as for arsenal, its been very disappointing to see them lose a 5 point lead so DAMN EASY!!! i think arsenal have been most surprising, but if they get back their form (winning form) in the last 8 matches, i can see arsenal winning the title. there is still the matter of arsenal vs manchester united to settle. although i think it is a man utd home match. i think winning against milan have gotten them a bit slack on the league, a title that is in their grasp rather than the CL. i think it is impossible for arsenal to win the CL. but the EPL should be their primary target, which they are fooling around with a bit too much.

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83806 Ahmed Bilal Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:13:42 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83806 @James: you could do that to any team and then beat them, tbh @James: you could do that to any team and then beat them, tbh

]]> By: munichheart http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83802 munichheart Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:13:20 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83802 Premier League: I think Arsenal are running out of steam, especially after beating Milan. It was evident there that they were in full focus to advance in the Champions League and give a statement... bu then they draw 5 games unconvincingly and are drawn to take on Liverpool, who right now are one of the better sides in the EPL. If they screw up, they have the CL to crank it up. (And they'd be happy to know that Arsenal are slumping in the league) In the Serie A, Inter are suffering from injuries. Cordoba is out for the long term. Roma and Juventus are gaining, but its Inter's title to lose. If Fiorentina hold off AC Milan until the very end, we will see a revamped AC Milan in the UEFA CUP next season. (Just like Bayern are now) In La Liga, I just don't get why when Real Madrid show Barca some light at the end of the tunnel, Barca close their eyes and avoid that shimmering glint. It's confusing. In the Bundesliga, Bayern have suffered a defeat and have a wake-up call: they need to beat the remaining challengers convincingly. Also, having Demichelis out of that game against Cottbus cost them a lot. Winning against Wolfsburg in the Cup is now a priority. Premier League:

I think Arsenal are running out of steam, especially after beating Milan. It was evident there that they were in full focus to advance in the Champions League and give a statement… bu then they draw 5 games unconvincingly and are drawn to take on Liverpool, who right now are one of the better sides in the EPL. If they screw up, they have the CL to crank it up. (And they’d be happy to know that Arsenal are slumping in the league)

In the Serie A, Inter are suffering from injuries. Cordoba is out for the long term. Roma and Juventus are gaining, but its Inter’s title to lose. If Fiorentina hold off AC Milan until the very end, we will see a revamped AC Milan in the UEFA CUP next season. (Just like Bayern are now)

In La Liga, I just don’t get why when Real Madrid show Barca some light at the end of the tunnel, Barca close their eyes and avoid that shimmering glint. It’s confusing.

In the Bundesliga, Bayern have suffered a defeat and have a wake-up call: they need to beat the remaining challengers convincingly. Also, having Demichelis out of that game against Cottbus cost them a lot. Winning against Wolfsburg in the Cup is now a priority.

]]> By: Gooner http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83783 Gooner Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:09:35 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83783 BDCondell After 5 months out, the RVP playing v Wigan and Boro was not the RVP all Gunners know and love. Although Arsenal look the least likely at the moment and their next 6 games couldn't be harder they have been playing recently in second gear in the league. They can and will play better. United have looked the most comfortable in top four league games this season but all those matches have been lacking something. I get the feeling that's about to change. This Sunday will be explosive. On the rare occasions when Rosicky is fit, he is ahead of Eboue in the pecking order. Eboue has no idea in either penalty area and is only good at winding everyone up. His occasional decent cross and clever link up play are not enough to stop him being the most despised Arsenal player in living memory. If he plays at the Bridge and avoids a red card I'll be amazed. BDCondell

After 5 months out, the RVP playing v Wigan and Boro was not the RVP all Gunners know and love.

Although Arsenal look the least likely at the moment and their next 6 games couldn’t be harder they have been playing recently in second gear in the league. They can and will play better.

United have looked the most comfortable in top four league games this season but all those matches have been lacking something. I get the feeling that’s about to change. This Sunday will be explosive.

On the rare occasions when Rosicky is fit, he is ahead of Eboue in the pecking order. Eboue has no idea in either penalty area and is only good at winding everyone up. His occasional decent cross and clever link up play are not enough to stop him being the most despised Arsenal player in living memory. If he plays at the Bridge and avoids a red card I’ll be amazed.

]]> By: James http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83781 James Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:36:01 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83781 Arsenal have been found out.Stop the passing.Simple. Arsenal have been found out.Stop the passing.Simple.

]]> By: fuzzy http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83773 fuzzy Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:31:08 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83773 I think a lot of it is due to teams tiring down. The situation in Spain is probably the worst. Even if Real & Barca are losing points regularly, teams like Atletico or Villarreal are not making an effort to overtake these two. At least Villarreal are just two points off the second place. Barca are too disjointed at the moment with a complete lack of direction. I think a lot of it is due to teams tiring down. The situation in Spain is probably the worst. Even if Real & Barca are losing points regularly, teams like Atletico or Villarreal are not making an effort to overtake these two. At least Villarreal are just two points off the second place. Barca are too disjointed at the moment with a complete lack of direction.

]]> By: Facebook User http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83771 Facebook User Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:21:32 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83771 Gooner, Fair enough on the Eduardo supply point but its also fair to say that he is not automatic first choice i.e. with Van Persie fit he'd be back to the bench, if available. Also, Toure and Van Persie both played against Boro and came on together for 25 minutes of the Wigan game, so not quite accurate to claim they missed the 4 games. And whose place does Rosicky take in the team? Aren't Eboue, Fabregas, Flamini and Hleb Wenger's 1st choice four across the middle? As regards Utd. Well of course its easier without Ronaldo and Rooney, they're world class, but you might remember a recent game where Ronaldo was nowhere to be seen and Rooney played only 70 minutes. 4-0 if you recall. If you're trying to make a case that Arsenal's recent form was down to injuries and that Utd are too dependent on Rooney/Ronaldo, I'm afraid your grasping at straws. It will be an exciting 6 to 8 weeks as you say but, and I mean no malice when I say, I think it will end in tears for Arsenal and, the way things are going, sooner rather than later. It will be interesting to see the ins and outs for Arsenal in the Summer! Gooner,
Fair enough on the Eduardo supply point but its also fair to say that he is not automatic first choice i.e. with Van Persie fit he’d be back to the bench, if available.

Also, Toure and Van Persie both played against Boro and came on together for 25 minutes of the Wigan game, so not quite accurate to claim they missed the 4 games.

And whose place does Rosicky take in the team? Aren’t Eboue, Fabregas, Flamini and Hleb Wenger’s 1st choice four across the middle?

As regards Utd. Well of course its easier without Ronaldo and Rooney, they’re world class, but you might remember a recent game where Ronaldo was nowhere to be seen and Rooney played only 70 minutes. 4-0 if you recall.

If you’re trying to make a case that Arsenal’s recent form was down to injuries and that Utd are too dependent on Rooney/Ronaldo, I’m afraid your grasping at straws.

It will be an exciting 6 to 8 weeks as you say but, and I mean no malice when I say, I think it will end in tears for Arsenal and, the way things are going, sooner rather than later.

It will be interesting to see the ins and outs for Arsenal in the Summer!

]]> By: Gooner http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83761 Gooner Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:45:08 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83761 BD Condell Eduardo was helping to supply chances for Adebayor in the 10 games leading up to the injury. He was proving to be an excellent team player in that period. Since the injury Arsenal haven't created many chances. This 4 game spell without both Van Persie and Eduardo (as well as Toure and Rosicky) has been the low point of the season for the Gunners as an attacking force. As Van Persie gets fitter Arsenal will hopefully get some form back. Teams find it alot easier to play United when Ronaldo and Rooney are missing. Chelsea are a bit different because of the sheer quality of their squad. Their weakness is the fact that Grant has yet to prove himself in England. The next 6 to 8 weeks will be the most exciting in the history of English football. BD Condell

Eduardo was helping to supply chances for Adebayor in the 10 games leading up to the injury. He was proving to be an excellent team player in that period. Since the injury Arsenal haven’t created many chances.

This 4 game spell without both Van Persie and Eduardo (as well as Toure and Rosicky) has been the low point of the season for the Gunners as an attacking force. As Van Persie gets fitter Arsenal will hopefully get some form back.

Teams find it alot easier to play United when Ronaldo and Rooney are missing.

Chelsea are a bit different because of the sheer quality of their squad. Their weakness is the fact that Grant has yet to prove himself in England.

The next 6 to 8 weeks will be the most exciting in the history of English football.

]]> By: Daniel Beech http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/comment-page-1/#comment-83755 Daniel Beech Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:24:02 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/the-top-of-the-table-conspiracy/6597/#comment-83755 The managers are all losing on purpose in order to convince their respective chairmen/owners that they need to spend the ridiculous amount of dosh it would take to get Ronaldo from United. The managers are all losing on purpose in order to convince their respective chairmen/owners that they need to spend the ridiculous amount of dosh it would take to get Ronaldo from United.

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