Comments on: The Latino Factor: The Gateway to American Footballing Success http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/ Football News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Paul http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118974 Paul Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:00:50 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118974 In response to MR Cam. You keep playing the race card, Bro, and fail to recognise the hard facts. If you do your research, you would find that in a world of 6 billion people, the top 3 greatest players at the moment by a country mile, are Latinos, and WHITE Latinos at that, Kaka, Lionel Messi, and Crisitano Ronaldo. Fancy that hey?? Since you want the hard facts, have a look at the top clubs in the world and tell me what nationalities the players are? So dare I say, the future of football in the US is in fact, in the Latino community. Latinos are by far the greatest exponents of the game, and the record books reflect this. If Black Americans in 100 years of football have not excelled in the game by now, it's a little too late bro, especially considering the huge interest in the game around the world. It is impossible to totally dominate a sport that is so sought after. Considering how much money and incredible infrastructure there is in the US, there is absolutely no excuse for never having a world class side, especially considering that the US has more registered soccer players than the total populations of some nations. THERE IS NO EXCUSE!! If you ever win a world cup, it will be because your global recruitment will finally pay off. I often wonder why American headhunters are recruiting school kids all over the world, offering them "football scholarships". Very cunning :) I have a friend that has been offered one of these "scholarships", and I imagine he will be considered for US representation at some point. I have no doubt that the US is systematically scavenging kids from all around the world to build a strong national team for the 2018 World Cup they are looking to host. The US is desperate to mark a mark in football, because all other sporting achievements count for zilch if you can't excels in the one that really counts. Another factor is this, hot dogs and buns, Hip Hop and Rap aint compatible with a sport that is so artistic and majestic. It just simply isn’t in your blood bro. I remember my friend saying the following about many of America's sporting achievements, "they are great amoungst themselves". How true this is, because in any other part of the world, if you can run fast, jump high, or fight hard, you play football. In response to MR Cam. You keep playing the race card, Bro, and fail to recognise the hard facts. If you do your research, you would find that in a world of 6 billion people, the top 3 greatest players at the moment by a country mile, are Latinos, and WHITE Latinos at that, Kaka, Lionel Messi, and Crisitano Ronaldo. Fancy that hey?? Since you want the hard facts, have a look at the top clubs in the world and tell me what nationalities the players are? So dare I say, the future of football in the US is in fact, in the Latino community. Latinos are by far the greatest exponents of the game, and the record books reflect this. If Black Americans in 100 years of football have not excelled in the game by now, it’s a little too late bro, especially considering the huge interest in the game around the world. It is impossible to totally dominate a sport that is so sought after. Considering how much money and incredible infrastructure there is in the US, there is absolutely no excuse for never having a world class side, especially considering that the US has more registered soccer players than the total populations of some nations. THERE IS NO EXCUSE!! If you ever win a world cup, it will be because your global recruitment will finally pay off. I often wonder why American headhunters are recruiting school kids all over the world, offering them “football scholarships”. Very cunning :) I have a friend that has been offered one of these “scholarships”, and I imagine he will be considered for US representation at some point. I have no doubt that the US is systematically scavenging kids from all around the world to build a strong national team for the 2018 World Cup they are looking to host. The US is desperate to mark a mark in football, because all other sporting achievements count for zilch if you can’t excels in the one that really counts. Another factor is this, hot dogs and buns, Hip Hop and Rap aint compatible with a sport that is so artistic and majestic. It just simply isn’t in your blood bro. I remember my friend saying the following about many of America’s sporting achievements, “they are great amoungst themselves”. How true this is, because in any other part of the world, if you can run fast, jump high, or fight hard, you play football.

]]> By: Alfredinho http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118879 Alfredinho Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:37:37 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118879 I am your average soccer/football fan stuck here in MLS heavy country USA and I will tell you the reason why the average soccer/football fan knows exactly who won the Barclays Cup, La Liga, or the Scudetto opposed to who might have won the MLS cup last year. Aside from so many other leagues with more talent, aside from me running into 6 different channels that will have a MLB game instead of the super classico equivalent "Chivas USA vs LA Galaxy" and taking in consideration that I have already forgiven the MLS for inventing the "shootout" tie breaker . I am simply not interested in MLS soccer matches because starting from the owners who dove into the idea of a major soccer league in the US without even understanding the game, meaning the passion for the sport has to be demonstrated from the top level of management to the youth academies. The sport has sold itself in all of the other countries, I agree that it may have been partially due to necessity based on the fact that it is much more affordable to buy a ball and kick it opposed to buying helmets and shoulder pads and things as such. Above all sports, I love soccer, but as the average fan that I am, I will trade a Kenny Cooper for a Nani every time, any time and maybe its because of some many fans like me that this sport hasn't flourish like they predicted back in '94 (world cup in the US) but thats just how it is. Thanks. I am your average soccer/football fan stuck here in MLS heavy country USA and I will tell you the reason why the average soccer/football fan knows exactly who won the Barclays Cup, La Liga, or the Scudetto opposed to who might have won the MLS cup last year. Aside from so many other leagues with more talent, aside from me running into 6 different channels that will have a MLB game instead of the super classico equivalent “Chivas USA vs LA Galaxy” and taking in consideration that I have already forgiven the MLS for inventing the “shootout” tie breaker . I am simply not interested in MLS soccer matches because starting from the owners who dove into the idea of a major soccer league in the US without even understanding the game, meaning the passion for the sport has to be demonstrated from the top level of management to the youth academies. The sport has sold itself in all of the other countries, I agree that it may have been partially due to necessity based on the fact that it is much more affordable to buy a ball and kick it opposed to buying helmets and shoulder pads and things as such. Above all sports, I love soccer, but as the average fan that I am, I will trade a Kenny Cooper for a Nani every time, any time and maybe its because of some many fans like me that this sport hasn’t flourish like they predicted back in ’94 (world cup in the US) but thats just how it is.

Thanks.

]]> By: Tom http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118717 Tom Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:24:17 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118717 Promotion/Relegation is a not starter. Won't happen. Calender change might happen later. Weather is certainly a big concern, namely for the midwest and northeast, for 6 (soon to be 7) of their teams. England doesn't get very cold. Seattle is comparable. Germany does get cold but they take a long summer break. There is a reason the Scandanavians have a schedule similar to ours. Playoffs bring in money. Doubt that that will go away. As for getting latinos to watch MLS, MLS has tried a lot of different avenues (which Zara mentions) with varying degrees of success. I think that maintaining allegience to your team when you immigrate is one thing has held in the Latino community. Similar to when people move to Atlanta from the Northeast, they still root for the Yankees or Red Sox instead of rooting for the Braves. This is the same deal. It will take a while. Promotion/Relegation is a not starter. Won’t happen.

Calender change might happen later. Weather is certainly a big concern, namely for the midwest and northeast, for 6 (soon to be 7) of their teams. England doesn’t get very cold. Seattle is comparable. Germany does get cold but they take a long summer break. There is a reason the Scandanavians have a schedule similar to ours.

Playoffs bring in money. Doubt that that will go away.

As for getting latinos to watch MLS, MLS has tried a lot of different avenues (which Zara mentions) with varying degrees of success. I think that maintaining allegience to your team when you immigrate is one thing has held in the Latino community. Similar to when people move to Atlanta from the Northeast, they still root for the Yankees or Red Sox instead of rooting for the Braves. This is the same deal. It will take a while.

]]> By: MZ http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118678 MZ Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:32:24 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118678 If you have ever been to Chicago in winter, you will now that the temperature hovers around 0 degrees fahrenheit or -18 degrees. Not to mention that Chicago routinely gets over snows of a foot plus. I'd Imagine all the Latino fans from warm climates that I suggest MLS needs to attract wouldn't want to brave that kind of weather to see a football match played on a sheet of ice. Snow is a whole other issue, especially when we are talking in feet, not in inches. If you have ever been to Chicago in winter, you will now that the temperature hovers around 0 degrees fahrenheit or -18 degrees. Not to mention that Chicago routinely gets over snows of a foot plus. I’d Imagine all the Latino fans from warm climates that I suggest MLS needs to attract wouldn’t want to brave that kind of weather to see a football match played on a sheet of ice. Snow is a whole other issue, especially when we are talking in feet, not in inches.

]]> By: Claudio Reyna http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118676 Claudio Reyna Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:29:07 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118676 so max England and Germany do not play in the cold? This is the dumbest reason i have heard for not changing the schedule buy your players gloves and underarmour... so max England and Germany do not play in the cold? This is the dumbest reason i have heard for not changing the schedule buy your players gloves and underarmour…

]]> By: Max Zeger http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118671 Max Zeger Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:43:15 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118671 @claudio unfortunately mls owners would never agree to promotion relegation because the values of their franchises would plummit. Those are good suggestions, and I think many will come when the league becomes more profitable. @claudio
unfortunately mls owners would never agree to promotion relegation because the values of their franchises would plummit. Those are good suggestions, and I think many will come when the league becomes more profitable.

]]> By: Bobotonto http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118669 Bobotonto Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:00:17 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118669 There aren't that many teams, Max. August through early December and then March through May/June. Or would that inconvenience Becks? Wouldn't want to do that, would we? There aren’t that many teams, Max. August through early December and then March through May/June. Or would that inconvenience Becks? Wouldn’t want to do that, would we?

]]> By: Max Zeger http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118668 Max Zeger Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:31:33 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118668 Academies are key, but switching the schedule is unrealistic. Toronto, Chicago, and Boston in February. It's very hard to do that. Academies are key, but switching the schedule is unrealistic. Toronto, Chicago, and Boston in February. It’s very hard to do that.

]]> By: Claudio Reyna http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118667 Claudio Reyna Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:14:49 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118667 1. Scrap playoffs and go to one league with the best team being the champions (like every big league in the world) 2. Have relegation into the USL for lowest 2 teams and promotion for top 2 teams in USL 3. Go to the same calender as the rest of the world, and same transfer windows as well (noone wants to watch MLS during the world cup/ euros/ basically anyting in summer) 4. Invest more in academies and less in the draft 5. Take the Concaf champions league more seriously or attempt to gain entry to copa libertadores ALl these steps and MLS will become world respected and one of the best leagues in the world 1. Scrap playoffs and go to one league with the best team being the champions (like every big league in the world)
2. Have relegation into the USL for lowest 2 teams and promotion for top 2 teams in USL
3. Go to the same calender as the rest of the world, and same transfer windows as well (noone wants to watch MLS during the world cup/ euros/ basically anyting in summer)
4. Invest more in academies and less in the draft
5. Take the Concaf champions league more seriously or attempt to gain entry to copa libertadores

ALl these steps and MLS will become world respected and one of the best leagues in the world

]]> By: Bobotonto http://soccerlens.com/the-latino-factor-the-gateway-to-american-footballing-success/32728/#comment-118660 Bobotonto Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:46:40 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=32728#comment-118660 This kind of blogging is really great. Different perceptions of a very complex issue. The bottom line is that the MLS will never get better through bringing in jaded foreign talent with no commitment. I'm not clear as to how trotting out players from Central and South America draws American Latinos to the sport, however. I just want to live to see American kids, all American kids, playing the sport. I think Fergiesonn is right. Changing the calendar is a good idea for right now. Still, the main thing for me is that we need to start serious academies. If the MLS powers are smart they'll hire someone like José Pekerman or Aimé Jaquette to come in and build a series of academies and train American coaches with an toward the future. This kind of blogging is really great. Different perceptions of a very complex issue. The bottom line is that the MLS will never get better through bringing in jaded foreign talent with no commitment. I’m not clear as to how trotting out players from Central and South America draws American Latinos to the sport, however. I just want to live to see American kids, all American kids, playing the sport. I think Fergiesonn is right. Changing the calendar is a good idea for right now. Still, the main thing for me is that we need to start serious academies. If the MLS powers are smart they’ll hire someone like José Pekerman or Aimé Jaquette to come in and build a series of academies and train American coaches with an toward the future.

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