Comments on: The Biggest Losers of 2008 – Real Madrid, Avram Grant, Juande Ramos, Arsenal and Mike Ashley http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/ Football News Sat, 26 May 2012 13:33:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: fabgooner http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-121626 fabgooner Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:12:44 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-121626 Arsenal got to the Cl semi-finals. Not the quarter-finals that you've mentioned around 5 times. Okay, so we didn't have the best of years, but to suggest that we're belong in a list that includes Juande Ramos and Mike Ashley is a big overreaction to say the least. Arsenal got to the Cl semi-finals. Not the quarter-finals that you’ve mentioned around 5 times.

Okay, so we didn’t have the best of years, but to suggest that we’re belong in a list that includes Juande Ramos and Mike Ashley is a big overreaction to say the least.

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108421 Ahmed Bilal Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:33:04 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108421 yea, grant was targeting by mourinho-lovers from the start, guy did a fairly good job. Arsenal, like Liverpool, are victims of their own expectations. Mike Ashley just bottled it. big big time. yea, grant was targeting by mourinho-lovers from the start, guy did a fairly good job.

Arsenal, like Liverpool, are victims of their own expectations.

Mike Ashley just bottled it. big big time.

]]> By: Gervillian Swike http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108335 Gervillian Swike Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:31:03 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108335 Patrick - I don't think anyone hates Avram Grant. I think, as you acknowledge, your grasp of English (although pretty good) has failed you in how you interpret "loser" in this list, in Avram Grant's case at least - no-one is saying the guy is a loser in the sense of being a no-hoper, an idiot; he's a loser in this list only in that he is not one of life's winners this year - he had all these achievements, and yet he ends the year with no job and no glory. In the same way in which he was a winner last year, in having a top job without apparently having done anything to deserve it. And the reference to him being hated because he's a Jew, I'm not getting that at all. Patrick – I don’t think anyone hates Avram Grant. I think, as you acknowledge, your grasp of English (although pretty good) has failed you in how you interpret “loser” in this list, in Avram Grant’s case at least – no-one is saying the guy is a loser in the sense of being a no-hoper, an idiot; he’s a loser in this list only in that he is not one of life’s winners this year – he had all these achievements, and yet he ends the year with no job and no glory. In the same way in which he was a winner last year, in having a top job without apparently having done anything to deserve it. And the reference to him being hated because he’s a Jew, I’m not getting that at all.

]]> By: patrick http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108316 patrick Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:47:37 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108316 avram grant: Chelsea's status has only improved in the short time under avram grant. they advanced in the league up to treatning the championship although they were not in a posittion to do that before avram grant. they reached the champions league finals and lost only in penalties - they never reached the finals before... and losing in penalties is more luck then soccer... "I don't understand what he has done to upset everyone" you say ... well dont be naieve! no one liked avram grant when he came and no one will admit how good he was because of a simple reason - everybody hates him because he is a jew... and you putting him in the losers list despite his achivments (that you dont hide...) are just making yourself worthy of appearing in the losers list yourselves... forgive my spelling ... i am italian and my english is not that good, but i am sure the message is clear... avram grant:
Chelsea’s status has only improved in the short time under avram grant.
they advanced in the league up to treatning the championship although they were not in a posittion to do that before avram grant.
they reached the champions league finals and lost only in penalties – they never reached the finals before… and losing in penalties is more luck then soccer…
“I don’t understand what he has done to upset everyone” you say … well dont be naieve! no one liked avram grant when he came and no one will admit how good he was because of a simple reason – everybody hates him because he is a jew…
and you putting him in the losers list despite his achivments (that you dont hide…) are just making yourself worthy of appearing in the losers list yourselves…
forgive my spelling … i am italian and my english is not that good, but i am sure the message is clear…

]]> By: glenny http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108310 glenny Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:27:17 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108310 andrei maradona,pele,or cruyff didnt get completely snubbed for 2 shite debutants who couldnt hit water if they fell out a boat.burley knew boyd was a proven goalscorer yet chose to field 2 nobodys in front of him when a goal was needed,if that was the case in that game then wot do u think the future held for boyd under burley,he had no option but to walk and his league form has benefited hugely for this. andrei maradona,pele,or cruyff didnt get completely snubbed for 2 shite debutants who couldnt hit water if they fell out a boat.burley knew boyd was a proven goalscorer yet chose to field 2 nobodys in front of him when a goal was needed,if that was the case in that game then wot do u think the future held for boyd under burley,he had no option but to walk and his league form has benefited hugely for this.

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108301 Ahmed Bilal Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:53 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108301 I would respectfully add Paul Ince to this list. At the top. I would respectfully add Paul Ince to this list. At the top.

]]> By: Andrei http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108298 Andrei Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:35:19 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108298 I have to disagree with you glenny. I don't care if he is Maradona or Pele or Cruijff, you don't bail on your country just because the manager puts you on the bench. That is the action of a world class loser (not a world class striker). As for Arsenal, Graham, I think that third place and CL quarters are good for them these years. The one thing which is bad is the fact that they went 11 (was that it?) games without a win in the beginning of the year, which of course ruined their chances to win... anything. That is what made them the losers in my books and those of Arsenal fans I am familiar with (no I am not an Arsenal fan). I have to disagree with you glenny. I don’t care if he is Maradona or Pele or Cruijff, you don’t bail on your country just because the manager puts you on the bench. That is the action of a world class loser (not a world class striker).

As for Arsenal, Graham, I think that third place and CL quarters are good for them these years. The one thing which is bad is the fact that they went 11 (was that it?) games without a win in the beginning of the year, which of course ruined their chances to win… anything. That is what made them the losers in my books and those of Arsenal fans I am familiar with (no I am not an Arsenal fan).

]]> By: glenny http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108287 glenny Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:46:55 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108287 graham i was enjoying this article until i got to kris boyd.u obviously havnt watched the spl since he decided to quit international football the guy is on fire top scorer in the spl at the moment and looking like he's gonna break all sorts of scoring records in the near future.ive already defended his decision to quit the national squad simply because what twat of a manager needing to win a game at the national stadium would through on 2 international rookie strikers when uv got one of the most prolific goal scorers in the world,(yes graham,the world)on the bench. george burley thats who!! graham i was enjoying this article until i got to kris boyd.u obviously havnt watched the spl since he decided to quit international football the guy is on fire top scorer in the spl at the moment and looking like he’s gonna break all sorts of scoring records in the near future.ive already defended his decision to quit the national squad simply because what twat of a manager needing to win a game at the national stadium would through on 2 international rookie strikers when uv got one of the most prolific goal scorers in the world,(yes graham,the world)on the bench. george burley thats who!!

]]> By: Hamburg http://soccerlens.com/the-biggest-losers-of-2008/17560/#comment-108280 Hamburg Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:34:50 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=17560#comment-108280 nope Gomes shouldnt be there, he has improved. he was great at PSV and was bad during Ramos time at Spurs. nope Gomes shouldnt be there, he has improved. he was great at PSV and was bad during Ramos time at Spurs.

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