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	<title>Comments on: Talking points &#8211; Scolari, Italy and that Austrian penalty. What do you think?</title>
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		<title>By: Reece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few comments with a bit of time now passed...

If it would have a free kick anywhere else on the pitch then it has *got* to be a penalty. A penalty is a &#039;free kick&#039; that just happens to be from twelve yards and the spot. There can be no real argument with it, and the claims from the Polish PM that he wanted to murder Howard Webb just shows how far behind the UK the majority of the world is in many respects; although I&#039;m not sure that Ref. from Euro 2004 would agree with me. Not only should the Polish PM have better things to do with his time than commenting on a football tournament, but I am almost sure that if an eqv. event had happened with England and a eqv. remark would have been made then FIFA and or UEFA would have had something to do with it. This just further highlights the double standards that we put up with in regards to football politics. However, I do agree with you that this must be a coherant rule enforcement in every game at every level. Boris Johnson-esque tackling is not permitted, and shouldn&#039;t be, be it in the last minute of the EURO 2008 final or in the third minute of the mighty Wrexham against Northwich Vics or whichever other pap we will be playing in the Blue Square this coming season.

Italy: I am a fan of Italian football personally, but I find most of it increasingly mystifying. Donadoni is almost a McClaren with regards to his record, no European experience never mind success, and was so-so with Livorno in the past. He does look a bit like my pops though, so I have to give that to him. He doesn&#039;t seem to have much tactical awareness, although playing three defensivly minded midfielders will tend to cause a bit of a problem. As to the players; yes they are old, but I think that we have a nack of writing players off before they are even thirty, which in my opinion is a mistake. However, there is very little invention in the side, no real number ten, with the exception perhaps of A. Del Piero. Its all well and good to have Pirlo dictating play from the back whilst being minded by Rino Gattusso, but what was it the IRA said to Maggie T? You have to be lucky everyday? Apart from Pirlo (who I must say is a fantastic player) they seem to have no plan B; and in common with the tempo of the game in Italy traditionally there is very little to suggest that they could force a result; but I think it is a mindset rather than a manager or the players. EURO 2004 showed this insistence on defensive play to be very dangerous, and the World Cup showed that a more attacking approach could work; now I&#039;m not sure where they Italians are, or even if they know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few comments with a bit of time now passed&#8230;</p>
<p>If it would have a free kick anywhere else on the pitch then it has *got* to be a penalty. A penalty is a &#8216;free kick&#8217; that just happens to be from twelve yards and the spot. There can be no real argument with it, and the claims from the Polish PM that he wanted to murder Howard Webb just shows how far behind the UK the majority of the world is in many respects; although I&#8217;m not sure that Ref. from Euro 2004 would agree with me. Not only should the Polish PM have better things to do with his time than commenting on a football tournament, but I am almost sure that if an eqv. event had happened with England and a eqv. remark would have been made then FIFA and or UEFA would have had something to do with it. This just further highlights the double standards that we put up with in regards to football politics. However, I do agree with you that this must be a coherant rule enforcement in every game at every level. Boris Johnson-esque tackling is not permitted, and shouldn&#8217;t be, be it in the last minute of the EURO 2008 final or in the third minute of the mighty Wrexham against Northwich Vics or whichever other pap we will be playing in the Blue Square this coming season.</p>
<p>Italy: I am a fan of Italian football personally, but I find most of it increasingly mystifying. Donadoni is almost a McClaren with regards to his record, no European experience never mind success, and was so-so with Livorno in the past. He does look a bit like my pops though, so I have to give that to him. He doesn&#8217;t seem to have much tactical awareness, although playing three defensivly minded midfielders will tend to cause a bit of a problem. As to the players; yes they are old, but I think that we have a nack of writing players off before they are even thirty, which in my opinion is a mistake. However, there is very little invention in the side, no real number ten, with the exception perhaps of A. Del Piero. Its all well and good to have Pirlo dictating play from the back whilst being minded by Rino Gattusso, but what was it the IRA said to Maggie T? You have to be lucky everyday? Apart from Pirlo (who I must say is a fantastic player) they seem to have no plan B; and in common with the tempo of the game in Italy traditionally there is very little to suggest that they could force a result; but I think it is a mindset rather than a manager or the players. EURO 2004 showed this insistence on defensive play to be very dangerous, and the World Cup showed that a more attacking approach could work; now I&#8217;m not sure where they Italians are, or even if they know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, that one&#039;s coming up tomm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, that one&#8217;s coming up tomm.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I  know is that I really like the pic of the girl</description>
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		<title>By: Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about a topic on the 08/09 fixtures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about a topic on the 08/09 fixtures?</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manager: there&#039;s one &lt;a href=&quot;http://soccerlens.com/euro-2008-half-term-report/7869/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Haven&#039;t done the one about top scorers and all that, my money&#039;s on Ronaldo / Villa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manager: there&#8217;s one <a href="http://soccerlens.com/euro-2008-half-term-report/7869/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Haven&#8217;t done the one about top scorers and all that, my money&#8217;s on Ronaldo / Villa.</p>
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		<title>By: Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can there be a article on who will be the top scorer with like how many goals?

Or who will be in the finals after group stages games have been played?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can there be a article on who will be the top scorer with like how many goals?</p>
<p>Or who will be in the finals after group stages games have been played?</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t take the Italians so lightly. They always come up with some trick at the end of the day. Their goalkeeper single-handedly wins matches for them. F**ker always manages to save his team&#039;s ass :-D
Hoping for France to demolish Italy 3-0 or more :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t take the Italians so lightly. They always come up with some trick at the end of the day. Their goalkeeper single-handedly wins matches for them. F**ker always manages to save his team&#8217;s ass <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Hoping for France to demolish Italy 3-0 or more <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Geri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The Italy team is definitely getting on a bit (although to be fair, they&#039;ve has some shocking decisions go against them).

The area of most concern is the defence. Ever since I can remember they have had a conveyor belt of defensive talent. First world cup I can remember, in 1978, they had Gentile, Scirea and Cabrini, adding Bergomi and Baresi in 1982. By 1988 the backline included Maldini and by 1994 it was the Milan defence. Cannavaro and Nesta were in place by the next world cup. This year they find themselves very short in central defence and as we all know, good teams are built on a solid foundation at the back. Zambrotta and Grosso are excellent wing backs but Italy are being opened up far too easily through the middle. But for Buffon they could have already been bundled out of the tournamnet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The Italy team is definitely getting on a bit (although to be fair, they&#8217;ve has some shocking decisions go against them).</p>
<p>The area of most concern is the defence. Ever since I can remember they have had a conveyor belt of defensive talent. First world cup I can remember, in 1978, they had Gentile, Scirea and Cabrini, adding Bergomi and Baresi in 1982. By 1988 the backline included Maldini and by 1994 it was the Milan defence. Cannavaro and Nesta were in place by the next world cup. This year they find themselves very short in central defence and as we all know, good teams are built on a solid foundation at the back. Zambrotta and Grosso are excellent wing backs but Italy are being opened up far too easily through the middle. But for Buffon they could have already been bundled out of the tournamnet</p>
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		<title>By: Fateh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fateh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yeah...you look at Italy..they have probably the most complete team in the Euros. But they seem to be lacking hunger. There&#039;s no young blood coming up...except Cassano and everyone&#039;s been there and done that. Del Piero was magnificent when he came off the bench in the first game but in the second game...they did nothing. I think Italy have persisted with the same system too long and its gone a little wrong for them.Donadoni is a good coach..but they probably need a complete overhaul.They ideally shouldn&#039;t be making it past the quaters..but france have such a poor coach that they might just do it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yeah&#8230;you look at Italy..they have probably the most complete team in the Euros. But they seem to be lacking hunger. There&#8217;s no young blood coming up&#8230;except Cassano and everyone&#8217;s been there and done that. Del Piero was magnificent when he came off the bench in the first game but in the second game&#8230;they did nothing. I think Italy have persisted with the same system too long and its gone a little wrong for them.Donadoni is a good coach..but they probably need a complete overhaul.They ideally shouldn&#8217;t be making it past the quaters..but france have such a poor coach that they might just do it</p>
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