Comments on: Same Old Arsenal http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/ Football News Sat, 26 May 2012 11:49:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: erwf http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121229 erwf Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:26:55 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121229 Wow you don't address any of the issues I raise, but rather, you mock me. May I ask what is the purpose of that? Firstly, you must understand that Arsenal is a business. A business is supposed to be profitable, or else everything else is meaningless. Secondly, even if we disregard the first fact, financial security is still more important then instant success. I ask all Gunner fans who are reading this right now: would you prefer a treble this year and relegation the next, or a place in the top 4 fighting for a trophy every year for many years to come? Thirdly, sticking to the Arsenal style of football should come before winning. I don't know how many people would agree with me here, but is winning ugly better then playing a good game but losing? I would argue not. Football is also a form of entertainment. If it does not entertain the audience, then it is again, meaningless. If you, Condell, or any of you Man Utd fanatics, disagree with me, or find my points wihtout merit, you are free to address it here. Wow you don’t address any of the issues I raise, but rather, you mock me. May I ask what is the purpose of that?

Firstly, you must understand that Arsenal is a business. A business is supposed to be profitable, or else everything else is meaningless.

Secondly, even if we disregard the first fact, financial security is still more important then instant success. I ask all Gunner fans who are reading this right now: would you prefer a treble this year and relegation the next, or a place in the top 4 fighting for a trophy every year for many years to come?

Thirdly, sticking to the Arsenal style of football should come before winning. I don’t know how many people would agree with me here, but is winning ugly better then playing a good game but losing? I would argue not. Football is also a form of entertainment. If it does not entertain the audience, then it is again, meaningless.

If you, Condell, or any of you Man Utd fanatics, disagree with me, or find my points wihtout merit, you are free to address it here.

]]> By: BD Condell http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121225 BD Condell Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:02:48 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121225 I did say a couple of weeks back that Arsenal fans were getting ahead of themselves. Lack of defensive strength and an over reliance on 1 or 2 key players is the problem. But most of all I have to observe that the Arseanl concentratin on youth, which has been going on for 3/4 seasons now, just isn't producing the goods. The King has no clothes and unless Wenger spends (much) more Arsenal are going nowhere. And does anyone know if there is a interpretor for erwf somewhere in the world? I'd love to know what he's rabbiting on about but it's mostly a mystery to me. :) I did say a couple of weeks back that Arsenal fans were getting ahead of themselves. Lack of defensive strength and an over reliance on 1 or 2 key players is the problem.

But most of all I have to observe that the Arseanl concentratin on youth, which has been going on for 3/4 seasons now, just isn’t producing the goods.

The King has no clothes and unless Wenger spends (much) more Arsenal are going nowhere.

And does anyone know if there is a interpretor for erwf somewhere in the world? I’d love to know what he’s rabbiting on about but it’s mostly a mystery to me. :)

]]> By: ronaldo http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121175 ronaldo Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:10:33 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121175 yup....arsenal still same old and i think they cannot win the epl!!!!!!!!!ARSENAL SUCK.GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED yup….arsenal still same old and i think they cannot win the epl!!!!!!!!!ARSENAL SUCK.GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED

]]> By: erwf http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121166 erwf Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:13:57 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121166 You're fscking bonkers man. Arsenal is a business, and it should be run as a business. Winning is important of course, but not at the cost of a financial meltdown. Never lose sight of the long term consequences. Short term gains mean nothing if the future is not secure. I would rather watch a team playing Arsenal brand of football week in, week out rather then win every trophy there is. What is the point of having values if you can't stick to them? Besides, a business is supposed to make money. If it doesn't even do that, then why bother in the first place? You’re fscking bonkers man.

Arsenal is a business, and it should be run as a business. Winning is important of course, but not at the cost of a financial meltdown. Never lose sight of the long term consequences. Short term gains mean nothing if the future is not secure.

I would rather watch a team playing Arsenal brand of football week in, week out rather then win every trophy there is. What is the point of having values if you can’t stick to them?

Besides, a business is supposed to make money. If it doesn’t even do that, then why bother in the first place?

]]> By: Amsh http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121085 Amsh Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:13:31 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121085 One game and we enter the debate is arsenal any good? Of course they are. Its just a temporary slip-up nothing more. We have lost the CC.( I hate to admit that pibber you were right) but all is not lost. Have faith that counts. may be chelsea might have a slip-up too. Arsenal are facing Confidence crisis rather then injury one. and @Ridhwan Burnley at home can be competitive don't underestimate them. So are hull. And even Sunderland. One game and we enter the debate is arsenal any good? Of course they are. Its just a temporary slip-up nothing more. We have lost the CC.( I hate to admit that pibber you were right) but all is not lost. Have faith that counts. may be chelsea might have a slip-up too. Arsenal are facing Confidence crisis rather then injury one.

and @Ridhwan

Burnley at home can be competitive don’t underestimate them. So are hull. And even Sunderland.

]]> By: pibber http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121067 pibber Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:41:46 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121067 fletcher plays for utd...just wanted to clear that up.... fletcher plays for utd…just wanted to clear that up….

]]> By: Gunner http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121062 Gunner Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:58:56 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121062 I wish I could be as optimistic as Ahmed and Amsh! But, the evidence at hand suggests that TF is more realistic in his assessment of the future. AW has now stated that he will buy a striker to replace RVP. Is that an admission that RVP is the only quality striker we have in the squad? Chelsea will not win the CL or the C based on the effort of only one player. Yes they have key players too, but they have adequate cover and more importantly. They have players who can step up when Anelka, Drogba, Fletcher, or Terry go out injured. The result is that the team does not suffer nearly as much disruption because of the loss of one player. In Arsenal's case Eduardo's confidence level is a major problem now. Wenger has to get in his head fast. Second problem is the defensive commitment at midfield. Its not aggressive enough. Last problem is the defense itself, there is not enough strength,height, and aggression in the center of defense. Vermaelen is aggressive but too short against opposing centerbacks or players of the quality and size of DD. I wish I could be as optimistic as Ahmed and Amsh! But, the evidence at hand suggests that TF is more realistic in his assessment of the future. AW has now stated that he will buy a striker to replace RVP. Is that an admission that RVP is the only quality striker we have in the squad? Chelsea will not win the CL or the C based on the effort of only one player. Yes they have key players too, but they have adequate cover and more importantly. They have players who can step up when Anelka, Drogba, Fletcher, or Terry go out injured. The result is that the team does not suffer nearly as much disruption because of the loss of one player. In Arsenal’s case Eduardo’s confidence level is a major problem now. Wenger has to get in his head fast. Second problem is the defensive commitment at midfield. Its not aggressive enough. Last problem is the defense itself, there is not enough strength,height, and aggression in the center of defense. Vermaelen is aggressive but too short against opposing centerbacks or players of the quality and size of DD.

]]> By: pibber http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121055 pibber Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:43:57 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121055 you'll win the cc with the young guns?? hahahahah...did you see what happened to spurs today to utd's youngsters?? a full strength spurs side, at that. keep passing the ball arsenal, keep passing the ball! you’ll win the cc with the young guns?? hahahahah…did you see what happened to spurs today to utd’s youngsters?? a full strength spurs side, at that. keep passing the ball arsenal, keep passing the ball!

]]> By: Ridhwaan http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121052 Ridhwaan Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:38:40 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121052 Everyone keeps saying that Chelsea will suffer when the Africans leave for the AFCON. U seem to be just following the hype. Jst take a step back and look at the fixtures Chelsea has during this time. There are 3 of the. Hull City, Burnley and West Ham. All of these are easily winnable with even the subs and the likes of Gael Kakuta and Fabio Borini on. And should Ancelotti go out and buy say, Aguero and Ribery..Well, all i can say iz "Who needs the Premier League? Chelsea iz in a league of its own." Everyone keeps saying that Chelsea will suffer when the Africans leave for the AFCON. U seem to be just following the hype. Jst take a step back and look at the fixtures Chelsea has during this time. There are 3 of the.
Hull City, Burnley and West Ham. All of these are easily winnable with even the subs and the likes of Gael Kakuta and Fabio Borini on. And should Ancelotti go out and buy say, Aguero and Ribery..Well, all i can say iz “Who needs the Premier League? Chelsea iz in a league of its own.”

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/same-old-arsenal/37652/#comment-121050 Ahmed Bilal Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:11:31 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=37652#comment-121050 I'm quite sure Arsenal will qualify for the CL. Title chances are over though. I’m quite sure Arsenal will qualify for the CL.

Title chances are over though.

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