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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the respect campaign is not working i&#039;am a referee and i am disgusted in the way park players conduct themselves.yes we get things wrong but these people do not accept mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the respect campaign is not working i&#8217;am a referee and i am disgusted in the way park players conduct themselves.yes we get things wrong but these people do not accept mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/respect-for-referees/3371/comment-page-1/#comment-61815</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree that some things need to be remedied in regards to officiating and the way players interact with officials.  I really like the idea of after action reviews of carded incidents.  If a player feigns a heinous assault *cough*Italy and Portugal 2006 WC(minus Zidane affair)*cough* that results in an opposing player being carded, the original card should be removed and, in turn, given to the actor involved.  The excessive number of fouls called as a result of acting kills the flow of the game and greatly detracts from the experience for all involved.

On a second issue mentioned, the chances of getting referees to change their decisions are extremely small.  As noted there are a few instances where is has happened, but it won&#039;t happen much and I don&#039;t think should.  As a former referee for youth matches, I recognize the value of projecting confidence and the players and coaches seeing that.  I was once forced to run the middle of a game at my same age class as an 18 year old when I was schedule to run the sideline and the center ref didn&#039;t show.  Both coaches were very hesitant to let me run the match until I informed them that I played at the same age level, but in more competitive league and was well aware of what takes place on the field.  If a ref changes his mind, it will be seen as a lack of being confidant in your decisions and will invite more decent from players and coaches.  Unless the call to be made is truly unclear, the ref should make his decision, stand by it, and make his call projecting confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that some things need to be remedied in regards to officiating and the way players interact with officials.  I really like the idea of after action reviews of carded incidents.  If a player feigns a heinous assault *cough*Italy and Portugal 2006 WC(minus Zidane affair)*cough* that results in an opposing player being carded, the original card should be removed and, in turn, given to the actor involved.  The excessive number of fouls called as a result of acting kills the flow of the game and greatly detracts from the experience for all involved.</p>
<p>On a second issue mentioned, the chances of getting referees to change their decisions are extremely small.  As noted there are a few instances where is has happened, but it won&#8217;t happen much and I don&#8217;t think should.  As a former referee for youth matches, I recognize the value of projecting confidence and the players and coaches seeing that.  I was once forced to run the middle of a game at my same age class as an 18 year old when I was schedule to run the sideline and the center ref didn&#8217;t show.  Both coaches were very hesitant to let me run the match until I informed them that I played at the same age level, but in more competitive league and was well aware of what takes place on the field.  If a ref changes his mind, it will be seen as a lack of being confidant in your decisions and will invite more decent from players and coaches.  Unless the call to be made is truly unclear, the ref should make his decision, stand by it, and make his call projecting confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: LiamOKelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiamOKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about this for a while and watching Rugby you can definately see the difference when only the captains are allowed to talk to the ref. Also I think that banning the referee if he makes one mistake (Rob Styles) is a bit unfair. Let&#039;s say Cristiano Ronaldo misses an open goal and costs United 3 points, will he be dropped?

But this isn&#039;t a one-way street, a lot of the referees today are stubborn and afraid to admit that they have made a mistake. IMO The solution is to have talks between the players association and the refs association. They then reach a compromise and propose it to the FA. I doubt this would ever happen though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this for a while and watching Rugby you can definately see the difference when only the captains are allowed to talk to the ref. Also I think that banning the referee if he makes one mistake (Rob Styles) is a bit unfair. Let&#8217;s say Cristiano Ronaldo misses an open goal and costs United 3 points, will he be dropped?</p>
<p>But this isn&#8217;t a one-way street, a lot of the referees today are stubborn and afraid to admit that they have made a mistake. IMO The solution is to have talks between the players association and the refs association. They then reach a compromise and propose it to the FA. I doubt this would ever happen though.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Steckelmacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Steckelmacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compare this to the current practice of imaginary card-waving and you can see that even in the last ten years, the problem has intensified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compare this to the current practice of imaginary card-waving and you can see that even in the last ten years, the problem has intensified.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Steckelmacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Steckelmacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can remember Robbie Fowler asking the referee NOT to send off David Seaman when the Arsenal keeper brought him down (well, he dived a fair bit too) in the box. And the media (for once) applauded Fowler instead of deriding him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can remember Robbie Fowler asking the referee NOT to send off David Seaman when the Arsenal keeper brought him down (well, he dived a fair bit too) in the box. And the media (for once) applauded Fowler instead of deriding him.</p>
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		<title>By: Fifth Column</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fifth Column</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiral

In answer to your question, Di Canio versus Everton when he caught the ball instead of heading for goal when the keeper went down with a head injury.  Though that&#039;s not quite the same thing I suppose... in terms of just decisions being made, I don&#039;t ever remember this happening in top flight football.

What I do remember relatively recently (a decade or so) was when players would punch an opposition player, the ref showed a red card and the player would walk off without complaint and without the rest of the team getting involved.

Nowadays a player could use a machine gun to take out the entire opposition back 4 and would still complain and shout at the ref that it was the wrong decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiral</p>
<p>In answer to your question, Di Canio versus Everton when he caught the ball instead of heading for goal when the keeper went down with a head injury.  Though that&#8217;s not quite the same thing I suppose&#8230; in terms of just decisions being made, I don&#8217;t ever remember this happening in top flight football.</p>
<p>What I do remember relatively recently (a decade or so) was when players would punch an opposition player, the ref showed a red card and the player would walk off without complaint and without the rest of the team getting involved.</p>
<p>Nowadays a player could use a machine gun to take out the entire opposition back 4 and would still complain and shout at the ref that it was the wrong decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiral Architect</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiral Architect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;You know what I would like to see? A referee gives the wrong decision but after confering with the two team captains, reverses it.&#039;

Sounds almost like something that would happen in cricket, not football. 

Come to think of it, when was the last instance that anyone can remember of REALLY good sporting behaviour by any football player along the lines of the above outlined sentiment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;You know what I would like to see? A referee gives the wrong decision but after confering with the two team captains, reverses it.&#8217;</p>
<p>Sounds almost like something that would happen in cricket, not football. </p>
<p>Come to think of it, when was the last instance that anyone can remember of REALLY good sporting behaviour by any football player along the lines of the above outlined sentiment?</p>
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		<title>By: Fifth Column</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fifth Column</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - in Collina&#039;s autobiography which I presume was NOT ghost-written cos it was quite dull, he recounts how, during a Serie A game, he allowed a goal and then reversed a decision or vice versa that went against Inter when Roy Hodgson was manager.  He explained his reasoning to Hodgson who said &quot;OK&quot; and shook his hand.  Imagine Wenger or almost any Prem League manager doing the same.  Would never happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; in Collina&#8217;s autobiography which I presume was NOT ghost-written cos it was quite dull, he recounts how, during a Serie A game, he allowed a goal and then reversed a decision or vice versa that went against Inter when Roy Hodgson was manager.  He explained his reasoning to Hodgson who said &#8220;OK&#8221; and shook his hand.  Imagine Wenger or almost any Prem League manager doing the same.  Would never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Fifth Column</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fifth Column</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of that is already in the rules.  If a player swears at you it is an automatic red card (not &#039;dissent&#039; which is a yellow)... but refs ignore it unless it is directly in their face.  Refs need to stand up for themselves more.

Also, I know this is being a bit pedantic, but captains should have the right to DISCUSS decisions with the ref.  They should never have the right to &quot;contest&quot; decisions.

Finally, refs can change any decision they make before they re-start play already as happened last season when a ref awarded a goal and the disallowed it after consulting with his lino following abuse from players.  However, most players are liars (in the context of a match) and even if they know a decision in their favour was given incorrectly, they are hardly likely to own up to it.  This sometimes happens in parks football but rarely in the Prem.

PS - The FA implementation of new rules at grass roots football is not practical and won&#039;t work.  As usual with the FA, well meaning but useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of that is already in the rules.  If a player swears at you it is an automatic red card (not &#8216;dissent&#8217; which is a yellow)&#8230; but refs ignore it unless it is directly in their face.  Refs need to stand up for themselves more.</p>
<p>Also, I know this is being a bit pedantic, but captains should have the right to DISCUSS decisions with the ref.  They should never have the right to &#8220;contest&#8221; decisions.</p>
<p>Finally, refs can change any decision they make before they re-start play already as happened last season when a ref awarded a goal and the disallowed it after consulting with his lino following abuse from players.  However, most players are liars (in the context of a match) and even if they know a decision in their favour was given incorrectly, they are hardly likely to own up to it.  This sometimes happens in parks football but rarely in the Prem.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; The FA implementation of new rules at grass roots football is not practical and won&#8217;t work.  As usual with the FA, well meaning but useless.</p>
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