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		<title>By: Marco Pantanella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Pantanella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One possible reason Karl? English players notoriously don&#039;t do well abroad. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://soccerlens.com/can-those-british-weaklings-cope-abroad/3610/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hugo Steckelmacher&#039;s discussion&lt;/a&gt; on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One possible reason Karl? English players notoriously don&#8217;t do well abroad. See <a href="http://soccerlens.com/can-those-british-weaklings-cope-abroad/3610/" rel="nofollow">Hugo Steckelmacher&#8217;s discussion</a> on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other flip of the coin regarding foreigners:
You always hear about United, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc raiding other &#039;countries&#039; for their young up-and-coming talent. I can&#039;t recall ever reading about another country&#039;s clubs eg. Barca, milan, Madrid, etc raiding England for its young up-and-coming talent? Why is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other flip of the coin regarding foreigners:<br />
You always hear about United, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc raiding other &#8216;countries&#8217; for their young up-and-coming talent. I can&#8217;t recall ever reading about another country&#8217;s clubs eg. Barca, milan, Madrid, etc raiding England for its young up-and-coming talent? Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Devil say...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devil say...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO England not doing well has to do with 
1) Coaching quality 
2) Tactical know how 
3) Fear (Media phobia)
I would think this same squad of english player will go on and win major tournaments if you appoint manager like (Wenger, Mourinho, etc..) and give them at least two full month to work with the players. 
It got nothing to do with foreigners in EPL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO England not doing well has to do with<br />
1) Coaching quality<br />
2) Tactical know how<br />
3) Fear (Media phobia)<br />
I would think this same squad of english player will go on and win major tournaments if you appoint manager like (Wenger, Mourinho, etc..) and give them at least two full month to work with the players.<br />
It got nothing to do with foreigners in EPL.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cronkhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Cronkhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m getting into this discussion late but, to me the bottomline is Professional Football is a business.  A manager is paid to put the best damn team on the pitch that&#039;s it.  No matter English or Foreigner ... if you perform better than the other guy you get the job.  Do you see the CBF bitchin about all the other leagues taking their talent.  No, because they still come back and get stuck in for their country.  So, the free market is good and you should consider yourself lucky if in the UK having the Premiership.  Producing English talent is up to the FA and its a completely different issue IMO.  If the size of country card is gonna be thrown, then were is Russia, China &amp; USA.  As an American, I put our national performance accountability totally on the federation shoulders.  Just thought I&#039;d thrown in something.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m getting into this discussion late but, to me the bottomline is Professional Football is a business.  A manager is paid to put the best damn team on the pitch that&#8217;s it.  No matter English or Foreigner &#8230; if you perform better than the other guy you get the job.  Do you see the CBF bitchin about all the other leagues taking their talent.  No, because they still come back and get stuck in for their country.  So, the free market is good and you should consider yourself lucky if in the UK having the Premiership.  Producing English talent is up to the FA and its a completely different issue IMO.  If the size of country card is gonna be thrown, then were is Russia, China &amp; USA.  As an American, I put our national performance accountability totally on the federation shoulders.  Just thought I&#8217;d thrown in something.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: English Football Needs Foreigners! &#124; Soccerlens - Football News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>English Football Needs Foreigners! &#124; Soccerlens - Football News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If the topic of Foreigners in the English Premiership interests you, check out Sam Adriance&#8217;s &#8220;Oh No! The Big Bad Foreigner Is Coming to Ruin English Football!&#8221; excellent discussion on the subject, here on Soccerlens.         srExecute();   Related Items from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If the topic of Foreigners in the English Premiership interests you, check out Sam Adriance&#8217;s &#8220;Oh No! The Big Bad Foreigner Is Coming to Ruin English Football!&#8221; excellent discussion on the subject, here on Soccerlens.         srExecute();   Related Items from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam - did I somehow inspire you to write your article with my contribution on foreigners in England? I hope I did.

I think your article is well written and all that, but I&#039;m pretty sure, your arguments are mistaken.

Of course Arsene Wenger does the job, he&#039;s been hired to do. He&#039;s hired to win trophies with Arsenal, and he clearly thinks, foreign players are the best helpers he can get to do this for him. The problem is, as I see it, that Wenger is a foreigner himself and therefore prefers players with qualities more cherished in his homeland (France). That leaves an entire club not producing any English talent, and you can argue all you want, but your argument will always bite itself in the ass: Wenger is hired to do his job, yes, but he&#039;s still a foreigner. And yes he&#039;s not hired to produce English talent, and he doesn&#039;t... but isn&#039;t it bad for the development of English footballers regardless of his job description?

I think you miss the point in the debate a little bit. It&#039;s not a matter of whether the foreigners ruin the EPL, because they clearly don&#039;t, since the EPL is now the most beloved league in the world. It&#039;s a matter of the foreigners ruining the development of English footballers, because there are not enough talent coming through the ranks due to foreign influence and players.

Of course you can name quite a few good English players, even young ones. But the number of really qualified English players for the future is very low considering the size of the country. Italy, Spain (who have other issues), France, Argentina, Brazil can all produce at least 2 teams of really high quality...England struggle to find 1, and it won&#039;t change anytime soon.

And naturally you can argue that luck (or lack of luck) has played its part in England not winning, but the thing is... England hasn&#039;t even come close for a really long time. Can one team really find bad luck (or lack of luck) so many times, when other countries of similar size once in a while are lucky enough to go all the way.

I think it&#039;s reasonable to argue that England hasn&#039;t got the sufficient amount of talent, and that the talent there is isn&#039;t varied enough to go all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam &#8211; did I somehow inspire you to write your article with my contribution on foreigners in England? I hope I did.</p>
<p>I think your article is well written and all that, but I&#8217;m pretty sure, your arguments are mistaken.</p>
<p>Of course Arsene Wenger does the job, he&#8217;s been hired to do. He&#8217;s hired to win trophies with Arsenal, and he clearly thinks, foreign players are the best helpers he can get to do this for him. The problem is, as I see it, that Wenger is a foreigner himself and therefore prefers players with qualities more cherished in his homeland (France). That leaves an entire club not producing any English talent, and you can argue all you want, but your argument will always bite itself in the ass: Wenger is hired to do his job, yes, but he&#8217;s still a foreigner. And yes he&#8217;s not hired to produce English talent, and he doesn&#8217;t&#8230; but isn&#8217;t it bad for the development of English footballers regardless of his job description?</p>
<p>I think you miss the point in the debate a little bit. It&#8217;s not a matter of whether the foreigners ruin the EPL, because they clearly don&#8217;t, since the EPL is now the most beloved league in the world. It&#8217;s a matter of the foreigners ruining the development of English footballers, because there are not enough talent coming through the ranks due to foreign influence and players.</p>
<p>Of course you can name quite a few good English players, even young ones. But the number of really qualified English players for the future is very low considering the size of the country. Italy, Spain (who have other issues), France, Argentina, Brazil can all produce at least 2 teams of really high quality&#8230;England struggle to find 1, and it won&#8217;t change anytime soon.</p>
<p>And naturally you can argue that luck (or lack of luck) has played its part in England not winning, but the thing is&#8230; England hasn&#8217;t even come close for a really long time. Can one team really find bad luck (or lack of luck) so many times, when other countries of similar size once in a while are lucky enough to go all the way.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s reasonable to argue that England hasn&#8217;t got the sufficient amount of talent, and that the talent there is isn&#8217;t varied enough to go all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: coolchic</title>
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		<dc:creator>coolchic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article sam. England hasnt won anything in the last 40 yrs cos they are shyte. The media has done the perfect job of hyping their abilities and the players beleive the crap.Dont blame England&#039;s woes on foreigners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article sam. England hasnt won anything in the last 40 yrs cos they are shyte. The media has done the perfect job of hyping their abilities and the players beleive the crap.Dont blame England&#8217;s woes on foreigners.</p>
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		<title>By: general125</title>
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		<dc:creator>general125</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be the state of world soccer be like if talent like Drogba, Adebayor, and Benjani never made it out of West Africa.  The Premier League is so popular because the best in the world play in the Premier League.  If foreigners playing in domestic leagues would be restricted, it would only serve to lower the quality of play in the English, Spanish and Italian leagues.  This is a classic case of trying to lower the standard of quality instead of raising quality in other leagues.  

For the English, if you want English football played by English, watch some Championship or League One games.  The EPL is a worldwide league at this point.  It&#039;s a better league because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be the state of world soccer be like if talent like Drogba, Adebayor, and Benjani never made it out of West Africa.  The Premier League is so popular because the best in the world play in the Premier League.  If foreigners playing in domestic leagues would be restricted, it would only serve to lower the quality of play in the English, Spanish and Italian leagues.  This is a classic case of trying to lower the standard of quality instead of raising quality in other leagues.  </p>
<p>For the English, if you want English football played by English, watch some Championship or League One games.  The EPL is a worldwide league at this point.  It&#8217;s a better league because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, forgot to point out that, for people who said Wenger isn&#039;t developing British talent, I&#039;d like to serve you a big cup of shut the F**K up, stop speaking out of your asses.

Look at the carling cup side that played Newcastle, he fielded over 5 British players, all of whom he believes in, in a few years, they will break into the first team because they&#039;re talented, unlike some of the british players already in EPL teams who suck real bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, forgot to point out that, for people who said Wenger isn&#8217;t developing British talent, I&#8217;d like to serve you a big cup of shut the F**K up, stop speaking out of your asses.</p>
<p>Look at the carling cup side that played Newcastle, he fielded over 5 British players, all of whom he believes in, in a few years, they will break into the first team because they&#8217;re talented, unlike some of the british players already in EPL teams who suck real bad.</p>
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		<title>By: MDH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr A, you harp on quite alot about BRITISH talent, as if a team which fields 11 Northern Irish or Scottish players will somehow benefit the ENGLISH game and team more than a club which fields 11 french players. Could you explain this without sounding xenophobic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr A, you harp on quite alot about BRITISH talent, as if a team which fields 11 Northern Irish or Scottish players will somehow benefit the ENGLISH game and team more than a club which fields 11 french players. Could you explain this without sounding xenophobic?</p>
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