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		<title>By: Alex Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I am not a Norwich City fan but I talk to a lot of people who are.

You&#039;re telling me that you wouldn&#039;t have rather kept Bellamy, rather than sell him onto to a bigger club. Yes you may have received a lot of money for him, but surely if the club had any ambitions of getting promoted, they would have kept hold of him. I do recall Bellamy and Roberts striking up quite useful partnership just before Bellamy was sold.

And Chris Sutton? High flying Blackburn came in for him and off he went. If you, A FAN, read Bryan Gunns autobiography you will know that it is a decision that Sutton was spending a lot of time mulling over. Norwich had just come off one of their most successful stints in the Premier League, but had to give up one of their best players.

If you&#039;re right, you&#039;re still subscribing to my view that Norwich could be reminded of a painful past. For whatever reason, whether it&#039;s for funds or not, Norwich always get rid of their big players. Yes, you could say that a lot of clubs do that. But it does seem with the Canaries that it happens quite frequently. I was bringing this point up. 

Please do describe the difference between youth product and youth team player...I&#039;m incredibly confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I am not a Norwich City fan but I talk to a lot of people who are.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re telling me that you wouldn&#8217;t have rather kept Bellamy, rather than sell him onto to a bigger club. Yes you may have received a lot of money for him, but surely if the club had any ambitions of getting promoted, they would have kept hold of him. I do recall Bellamy and Roberts striking up quite useful partnership just before Bellamy was sold.</p>
<p>And Chris Sutton? High flying Blackburn came in for him and off he went. If you, A FAN, read Bryan Gunns autobiography you will know that it is a decision that Sutton was spending a lot of time mulling over. Norwich had just come off one of their most successful stints in the Premier League, but had to give up one of their best players.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re right, you&#8217;re still subscribing to my view that Norwich could be reminded of a painful past. For whatever reason, whether it&#8217;s for funds or not, Norwich always get rid of their big players. Yes, you could say that a lot of clubs do that. But it does seem with the Canaries that it happens quite frequently. I was bringing this point up. </p>
<p>Please do describe the difference between youth product and youth team player&#8230;I&#8217;m incredibly confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. your very last line...... do you seriously believe that Grant Holt or Wes Hoolohan will ever play Premiership football? Chris Martin possibly, if he continues to develop.

Perhaps you do not quite understand the gulf between League One and the Premiership. We are in League One, a league which makes Jon Otsemober and Jamie Cureton look good..... Those three players will be lucky to be anything above average in the championship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. your very last line&#8230;&#8230; do you seriously believe that Grant Holt or Wes Hoolohan will ever play Premiership football? Chris Martin possibly, if he continues to develop.</p>
<p>Perhaps you do not quite understand the gulf between League One and the Premiership. We are in League One, a league which makes Jon Otsemober and Jamie Cureton look good&#8230;.. Those three players will be lucky to be anything above average in the championship.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me ask you a question Alex, are you a Norwich fan? If you are not, then I will help you out by clarifying a few things, if you are then you should (and probably did) know a bit better than this.

Firstly, you give them impression that it is the players who take the carrot dangled in front of them. Chris Sutton was forced to leave the club, publicly slating Robert Chase after the move, and made it clear that he did not want to see the successful Norwich side of 92/93 broken up.

Craig Bellamy was sold for £6m, a hell of a lot of money for a player who had just returned from a career threatening cruciate ligament injury. That injury has never gone away, in fact it contributed to his other knee going, both of his knees are still knackered and consist mostly of metal pins. If in doubt, check out his average number of appearances since leaving. We sold him almost a decade ago now, £6m was a great price.

We doubled our money on Dean Ashton, West Ham are now filing a £15m lawsuit against the FA, enough said. You cannot deny that this was great business too.  Earnshaw had a minimum release clause, and there was no profit from his sale, we purchase for the same price as we sold. After you include agents fees, likely to be 350k, we in fact made a loss on that deal. His departure also coincided with the end of our parachute payments. See Reading, Charlton, Southampton, and others for examples of where this always happens.

Only two of the players that you have pointed out, Bellars and Sutton, have been youth players. Only one of the three current city players that you mention, Chris Martin, is a youth product. You fail to mention that Chris Martin had just signed a three and a half year contract at the time of writing this article.

You have, in my humble opinion, taken this from entirely the wrong perspective. The club chooses whether to sell a player, a player is bound by his contract. If you really want to get into the nitty gritty, Wes Hoolohan only has one year left on his current deal after this season. If he doesnt sign a new one, we will have to sell. The others are under contract. You should be asking the question &quot;the Norwich board have repeatedly shown a complete lack of ambition by selling their best players and replacing them with utter tosh, will they succumb to an offer this January?&quot;

Bellamy, Ashton, Eadie, O&#039;Neill...... these players were crocks, thats almost £20m for four players who have never been able to complete a full season after leaving. The only big time Norwich players to genuinely force a move were Robert Green (forgotten about him?), and Robert Earnshaw. 

Hoolohan, Holt, Martin...... will we cash in at the end of the year? Who knows, only one of those players is proven in the championship, Gary Holt couldnt force his way into a promoted Forest team. Their is a big gulf in talent between this division and the next, who is to say that we will need them? Lambert has bought a right winger. Why would Lambert buy a right winger? Because he wants to play 4-4-2 next year? Where does Hoolohan fit into a 4-4-2? He doesnt. If he doesnt sign a new contract, then too right we should sell him......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me ask you a question Alex, are you a Norwich fan? If you are not, then I will help you out by clarifying a few things, if you are then you should (and probably did) know a bit better than this.</p>
<p>Firstly, you give them impression that it is the players who take the carrot dangled in front of them. Chris Sutton was forced to leave the club, publicly slating Robert Chase after the move, and made it clear that he did not want to see the successful Norwich side of 92/93 broken up.</p>
<p>Craig Bellamy was sold for £6m, a hell of a lot of money for a player who had just returned from a career threatening cruciate ligament injury. That injury has never gone away, in fact it contributed to his other knee going, both of his knees are still knackered and consist mostly of metal pins. If in doubt, check out his average number of appearances since leaving. We sold him almost a decade ago now, £6m was a great price.</p>
<p>We doubled our money on Dean Ashton, West Ham are now filing a £15m lawsuit against the FA, enough said. You cannot deny that this was great business too.  Earnshaw had a minimum release clause, and there was no profit from his sale, we purchase for the same price as we sold. After you include agents fees, likely to be 350k, we in fact made a loss on that deal. His departure also coincided with the end of our parachute payments. See Reading, Charlton, Southampton, and others for examples of where this always happens.</p>
<p>Only two of the players that you have pointed out, Bellars and Sutton, have been youth players. Only one of the three current city players that you mention, Chris Martin, is a youth product. You fail to mention that Chris Martin had just signed a three and a half year contract at the time of writing this article.</p>
<p>You have, in my humble opinion, taken this from entirely the wrong perspective. The club chooses whether to sell a player, a player is bound by his contract. If you really want to get into the nitty gritty, Wes Hoolohan only has one year left on his current deal after this season. If he doesnt sign a new one, we will have to sell. The others are under contract. You should be asking the question &#8220;the Norwich board have repeatedly shown a complete lack of ambition by selling their best players and replacing them with utter tosh, will they succumb to an offer this January?&#8221;</p>
<p>Bellamy, Ashton, Eadie, O&#8217;Neill&#8230;&#8230; these players were crocks, thats almost £20m for four players who have never been able to complete a full season after leaving. The only big time Norwich players to genuinely force a move were Robert Green (forgotten about him?), and Robert Earnshaw. </p>
<p>Hoolohan, Holt, Martin&#8230;&#8230; will we cash in at the end of the year? Who knows, only one of those players is proven in the championship, Gary Holt couldnt force his way into a promoted Forest team. Their is a big gulf in talent between this division and the next, who is to say that we will need them? Lambert has bought a right winger. Why would Lambert buy a right winger? Because he wants to play 4-4-2 next year? Where does Hoolohan fit into a 4-4-2? He doesnt. If he doesnt sign a new contract, then too right we should sell him&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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