Newcastle United - did Sam and Ashley fight or did Sam lose the dressing room?
Note to Newcastle United - when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
This is not said lightly - I have great affection for the romance that surrounds Newcastle United and admit to have been swept, like many others, by the swell of goodwill that engulfs fans and followers (including the media) whenever Newcastle United do well.
And yet, Mike Ashley has taken a big risk by sacking Sam Allardyce, one that puts a lot of pressure on him to find the right man to succeed Big Sam AND to dispel the fear that he’s not another Abramovich looking for pretty football over long-term progress and growth.
To expect Sam Allardyce to deliver the type of football Newcastle fans dream about and then berate him for failing to do so shows a spectacular naivety on the part of the observer - Sam’s strength was, and has always been, developing training systems and implementing a player development infrastructure. In a limited setting, with things going his way, he was able to take Bolton up the Premier League table.
Starting from scratch, against tougher competition - how would you expect him to deliver anything better than a top-10 finish, and considering the injuries, anything better than mid-table obscurity?
Fans have called him out on the unimaginative and unattractive style Newcastle displayed under his management, but at this point - and Sam spoke out about it to the detriment of his career - the players were as much to blame. In any situation, if a player is not giving it his 100% then the manager has 2 choices - he can bench him or continue playing him. Neither method worked for several Newcastle United players.
Tactically, Big Sam made grave errors - and apparently his reasoning did not satisfy Mike Ashley, the owner/fan who decided that he had better judgment in footballing matters than his manager and thus sacked Big Sam.
Would keeping Sam onboard for this season (at least) and possibly the next changed things? If anything, Sam would have had the chance, in 2 years, to build his team and perhaps build the base from which he or a better manager could deliver the type of football Newcastle fans dream about?
The party line - as leaked to the press by Ashley’s friend - is that Sam was not Ashley’s choice, but Ashley wanted to give Sam a shot and when he failed and more importantly, failed to change things around after meeting with Mort and Ashley, it was decided to part ways.
For Newcastle’s sake, I hope that Ashley and Mort know something that we don’t. On the evidence available in the media and from watching Newcastle play, unless Ashley has a Mourinho or Lippi lined up to take over, or unless Allardyce had lost the dressing room completely or had done something extremely stupid like defend Barton ad nauseam, the decision to sack Sam Allardyce is stupid and short-sighted.
Hughes / Moyes are marginally better and both got the stability they needed, Redknapp had a specific set of fortunate circumstances that went his way at Portsmouth, circumstances that are unlikely to repeat themselves at Newcastle. Shearer is no good, Gullit and Klinsmann are taken, Robson is out, Venables or McClaren will make Newcastle the laughing stock of England and Kevin Keegan is perhaps not suited to managing Newcastle in the present incarnation of the Premier League.
Oh, and Mourinho isn’t coming. Redknapp could step in and bring about a revolution, but at this point Arsenal seem more likely to win the quadruple than Newcastle play considerably better under Redknapp than they did under Big Sam. Everything about this situation points to either a strong disagreement between Ashley and Allardyce over an internal matter (something we’re not privy to) or that Allardyce had lost the dressing room (it has happened before - Pardew at West Ham, anyone?).
Ashley owns Newcastle United - and he has the full right to run it as he sees fit. However, if he wants his club to win something in the next 5 years, sacking a manager because the team doesn’t play pretty in the first season is NOT the way to do it. He seems like the smart businessman too, so perhaps his judgment is to be trusted?
Too bad we’ll never know the full truth, eh? Ashley, like Abramovich, stays away from talking too much to the press. It’s a smart move, why air your dirty laundry in public and feed the media hounds?
Good luck to Newcastle United - they’ll need it.





When I first saw this headline I thought this was going to be another stab at NUFC and our affairs. However, i am wrong. This is a good piece of text of which I agree with.
Anyone who thinks Mourinho is coming to Toon, just wake up now.
As much as I want the Keegan/Shearer partnership, I dont think its going to happen.
Mark Hughes I dont really rate highly. David Moyes would be great but Ashely has already ruled him out.
McClaren and Venebles would be an absoloute disaster.
And any other type of a high profile manager such as Hiddink, Lippi or Rijkaard never looks likely.
Seems Redknapp could be the right choice but I personally dont see anything special in him.
When Ashely took over Allardyce was already in place and you could say Allardyce wasnt in his plans but decided to give him a shot anyway. All us Toon fans know the season is over. Theres no more CC for us, Hovering aimlessly in midtable and im sure soon to be out the FAC. So what there to play for? As long as we get someone in soon and he can nab a few signings in Janurary then you might say this new manager has a whole half season of friendlies for his team to gel, and then in the summer the usual preseason friendlies for other signing. the more i look it, the better the situation gets.
I think good times lie ahead for us Toon fans :D, mind you.. thats what i was saying when Allardyce first took over…
Why are fans so impatient? hovering in midseason is one way to look at it, a transitional period as Sam creates a team capable of challenging for the Champions League is quite another.
Quite often Sam is compared to Eriksson and Newcastle with City. Eriksson had more money, better contacts and is, arguably, a better manager. City also had a solid defensive foundation (Dunne, Richards and Hamann) on which they could build upon.
Newcastle spent less money buying bargain players (partially because Sam wasn’t a big enough draw and also because that’s what Sam’s network was geared towards) and Sam needed more time to develop a defensive base for his team.
Scary thought for Newcastle fans now that Redknapp has said no - they’re going to have someone worse than him come in, and that means someone like Big Sam or a bit worse.
A club owner who sits with the fans. Isnt there something wrong right there itself? A fans’ view and an executive’s view are and should be different. Big Sam is no Fabio Capello, still why didnt they give him some more time? We are talking about a manager who managed to get his substandard players to beat Arsenal, Manu, Liverpool etc etc. And finally how long has this been going on at St.James Park? Oswaldo Ardiles, Kevin Keegan, Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder and now Sam Allardyce………