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	<title>Comments on: Manchester United are richer than Arsenal</title>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/manchester-united-are-richer-than-arsenal/4820/comment-page-1/#comment-79493</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ - the debt has nothing to do with profits - you&#039;re trying to imply that they used the debt to boost their profits, which is quite stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ &#8211; the debt has nothing to do with profits &#8211; you&#8217;re trying to imply that they used the debt to boost their profits, which is quite stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/manchester-united-are-richer-than-arsenal/4820/comment-page-1/#comment-79490</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post, with an eye-catching heading.

Except that ManU made profits of Â£50m, but owe Â£650m due to the leveraged debt that the Glazier&#039;s took out to buy the club.

At the risk of simplifying this a bit, that&#039;s like bragging to your mate, &quot;Look, I&#039;m rich, I&#039;ve got 50 squids in my pocket&quot; when behind the scenes, you owe another mate 650 squids.

Even your own supporters don&#039;t back up your article, visit http://www.joinmust.org/thefacts/theirdebt.php and you will see what I mean.

Laughable, really - and I dare you to publish this posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post, with an eye-catching heading.</p>
<p>Except that ManU made profits of Â£50m, but owe Â£650m due to the leveraged debt that the Glazier&#8217;s took out to buy the club.</p>
<p>At the risk of simplifying this a bit, that&#8217;s like bragging to your mate, &#8220;Look, I&#8217;m rich, I&#8217;ve got 50 squids in my pocket&#8221; when behind the scenes, you owe another mate 650 squids.</p>
<p>Even your own supporters don&#8217;t back up your article, visit <a href="http://www.joinmust.org/thefacts/theirdebt.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.joinmust.org/thefacts/theirdebt.php</a> and you will see what I mean.</p>
<p>Laughable, really &#8211; and I dare you to publish this posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Shohan Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shohan Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some ppl dnt get dat clubs are ranked who is richer by their profits and revenues nd stuff..not how mch money is in the bank account of the owners..yeah go compare the revenues and profits of man unitd to chelsea nd den come bak nd tlk u fools who think chelsea are richer pfft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some ppl dnt get dat clubs are ranked who is richer by their profits and revenues nd stuff..not how mch money is in the bank account of the owners..yeah go compare the revenues and profits of man unitd to chelsea nd den come bak nd tlk u fools who think chelsea are richer pfft</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7182589.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;245m&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7182589.stm" rel="nofollow">245m</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shohan Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shohan Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man utd was the richest club for some years before takeover.and have the biggest fan base in world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man utd was the richest club for some years before takeover.and have the biggest fan base in world</p>
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		<title>By: Arvind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arvind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of January 2007. I find VERY difficult to believe the author;s post....
As of January 2007, Manchester United has released some profit numbers for their last financial year.
Here are the numbers - ($) - they released with the previous year&#039;s results in brackets.


Revenue $331 million ($315 million)

Operating profit $98 million ($92 million)

Profit before tax $62 million ($22 million)


Operating profit usually relates to normal transactions, while profit before tax would take into â€œunusualâ€ items such as transfer fees. Hence, one of the reasons why the profit before tax has increased so much is that the $24 million received from Chelsea from the transfer of John Obi Mikel was included. 


As they are now a privately held company, Manchester United is not required to publish financial statements, but it seems that they certainly want to leave the impression that their financial house is in order. 


All seems well, except for the issue of interest payments on the debt that the Glazer family has assigned to the club. You may remember that in July 2006 the Glazer family secured a refinancing deal that saw the interest payments dropped from hundred and $180 million a year to $124 million a year - a substantial saving. 


However at the same time, the overall borrowings of the club increased from $1.16B to $1.32B an increase of $160 million. So how come borrowings went up so dramatically? 


Without detail financial statements it is impossible to say what exactly was done so I freely admit to a bit of speculation. Could it be because the Glazer family opted to capitalize the interest payments incurred during the first year of operations? (It is the equivalent of opting to not pay interest on your mortgage but rather adding it to your principal - so you pay interest on interest). 


We can&#039;t tell for sure from the results released, but it would certainly explain why interest payments of approximately $180 million don&#039;t appear to have shown up in last year&#039;s financial results. 


If the interest payments were capitalized it is not a trick that can be turned every year and a charge of $124 million will surely show up in next year&#039;s accounts. 

However, it is difficult to see how the club is going to stay in the black with such a crippling level of debt and interest repayments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of January 2007. I find VERY difficult to believe the author;s post&#8230;.<br />
As of January 2007, Manchester United has released some profit numbers for their last financial year.<br />
Here are the numbers &#8211; ($) &#8211; they released with the previous year&#8217;s results in brackets.</p>
<p>Revenue $331 million ($315 million)</p>
<p>Operating profit $98 million ($92 million)</p>
<p>Profit before tax $62 million ($22 million)</p>
<p>Operating profit usually relates to normal transactions, while profit before tax would take into â€œunusualâ€ items such as transfer fees. Hence, one of the reasons why the profit before tax has increased so much is that the $24 million received from Chelsea from the transfer of John Obi Mikel was included. </p>
<p>As they are now a privately held company, Manchester United is not required to publish financial statements, but it seems that they certainly want to leave the impression that their financial house is in order. </p>
<p>All seems well, except for the issue of interest payments on the debt that the Glazer family has assigned to the club. You may remember that in July 2006 the Glazer family secured a refinancing deal that saw the interest payments dropped from hundred and $180 million a year to $124 million a year &#8211; a substantial saving. </p>
<p>However at the same time, the overall borrowings of the club increased from $1.16B to $1.32B an increase of $160 million. So how come borrowings went up so dramatically? </p>
<p>Without detail financial statements it is impossible to say what exactly was done so I freely admit to a bit of speculation. Could it be because the Glazer family opted to capitalize the interest payments incurred during the first year of operations? (It is the equivalent of opting to not pay interest on your mortgage but rather adding it to your principal &#8211; so you pay interest on interest). </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t tell for sure from the results released, but it would certainly explain why interest payments of approximately $180 million don&#8217;t appear to have shown up in last year&#8217;s financial results. </p>
<p>If the interest payments were capitalized it is not a trick that can be turned every year and a charge of $124 million will surely show up in next year&#8217;s accounts. </p>
<p>However, it is difficult to see how the club is going to stay in the black with such a crippling level of debt and interest repayments.</p>
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		<title>By: Arvind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arvind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where in heaven&#039;s name is this guy concuting these figures from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where in heaven&#8217;s name is this guy concuting these figures from?</p>
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		<title>By: ArseneWanker</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArseneWanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx 4 reminding me! Now,come 2 think of it,it&#039;s true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx 4 reminding me! Now,come 2 think of it,it&#8217;s true!</p>
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		<title>By: Taron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to ArseneWanker. Your comparison is unfair. You should compare Arsenal to only one of our players Giggs. His achivements surpess Arsenal&#039;s during their entire history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to ArseneWanker. Your comparison is unfair. You should compare Arsenal to only one of our players Giggs. His achivements surpess Arsenal&#8217;s during their entire history.</p>
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