Comments on: Manchester United 5-2 Tottenham – All The Goals

By: BD Condell

BD Condell — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:14:17 +0000

OK, I’ll pick-up Bob’s toys and put them back in the pram!

By: Ahmed Bilal

Ahmed Bilal — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:33:42 +0000

don’t let the door hit you on your way out!

If you’ve got such a big problem, point out where you think we’re wrong. If it’s the comments then, well, they’re personal opinion for everyone. As for the articles, how biased and how unbiased we are is clearly stated here.

false outrage – which is what your comment is all about – is just attention seeking behavior, and congratulations, you got some.

By: Bob Saccamano

Bob Saccamano — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:26:42 +0000

This is the last time I’ll be visiting Soccerlens.

There really should be a disclaimer at the top about bias.

By: Ahmed Bilal

Ahmed Bilal — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:42:33 +0000

And while we’re on the subject of the standard of refereeing, Webb to me seems like like a guy who’ll let a lot of things slide to help the flow of the game but take quick action if there’s a definite game-changing incident.

Case in point, the Palacios two-footed lunge in the first half and the Paul Scholes lunge in the second half – both missed their targets, both were allowed to slide by the ref. In Palacios’ case it was a straight red if it had connected, and a yellow in the best of circumstances even if he hadn’t. Scholes was already on a yellow, but his lunge would have got him a card nevertheless.

I like Webb – he tries to do the right thing regardless of reputation or outside influences. And he knows his game. A lesser ref would have penalised Palacios (I wanted him to be carded but that’s my bias speaking), he let the game flow. I don’t agree with several of his decisions from past United games that he’s refereed, but I can live with them because he gets most of them right and to me he gives off a better vibe than, say, Mike Riley. Yea, it’s not an exact science.

Also, as far as the whole game goes, he did a good job refereeing it with only one significant decision that could have gone either way. If players did that good a job they’d be heroes.

By: Ahmed Bilal

Ahmed Bilal — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:35:36 +0000

@Ben watch the replay again, carrick tries to flick the ball away from gomes, it doesn’t change direction much after touching gomes’ hand. It’s not a stonewall pen, and it’s not a bad decision either. The only vantage point that could have given a clear view of the incident was the touchline to Carrick’s left, and guess what, the linesman was on the other side and Webb was a fair distance behind Carrick.

Gomes does end up clattering through Carrick, doesn’t he?

I think a lot of people are angry that United got a debatable decision going their way because of where the ref was positioned and this ABU notion that United always get the sweet end of the deal.

What about Fab’s disallowed goal at Anfield? What about the dozens of dives and phantom penalties being given to Gerrard and Torres over the last two seasons (and more if you just talk about Gerrard)?

Your argument is that liverpool get favorable decisions on 50-50 calls or because the player cons them. This was a 50-50 call too. Watch the replays without the ABU blinders, and deal with it.

arrogant fool? the same arrogant fool who celebrated the 3rd goal as if his life had depended on it? It’s fine if you lot don’t want him, we’re more than happy with him on our side.

By: Ben King

Ben King — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:09:14 +0000

@Shreyas I agree masch freekick was definetly a dive and i would never agrue that we get alot of decisions go our way because of who we are, especially at anfield but all those cases you cite came about by either a 50 50 poor judgment call or the referee being conned by a player, yesterdays penalty was neither, it was an atrociously bad misunderstanding on simple football by the man who is supposedly the best ref in the land, if he doesnt understand the basic premise of, if you hit a ball one way then thats the way it will go, then he shouldnt be doing his job. we do all get shit decisions that go for and against us over the years but its decisions like yesterdays that are soo terrible that do make people resent united and the arrogant fool that is ronaldo.

but once more i would like to stress that united were awesome in the second half and even without the penalty they still would have won

By: RedV

RedV — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:14:15 +0000

@Shreyas… totally wit u on this one man… some go ur way some don’t… simple fact… and davspurs… thank u man… it was so obvious y’day night that united were awesome in the second half bcos of drugs… =) this is the first rant i’ve heard that borders on insanity…

By: Shreyas

Shreyas — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:42:11 +0000

@Ben King You seem to be a sensible supporter, and hence to see you say United have a different rule book is quite surprising. Isn’t it your red tinted glasses speaking.
Liverpool should have never got a free kick after that horrendous Mascherano dive, but I don’t see ti mentioned anywhere.
Bendtner was not offside and his goal should have stood in the 4-4 draw, as should have Fabregas’s.
United should have got a penalty in the FA cup against Everton.
For the record, this is only the second penalty that United have got in the premier league this season, whereas Liverpool have had about 10 penalties given and 10 opposition players sent off.
And I can count more than 4-5 incidents when Ronaldo has been denied legit penalties this season, let alone United.

Fact is we all get shit decisions and get favorable ones but to say that United somehow are the only team to get favourable decisions is wrong.

By: Ben King

Ben King — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:06:31 +0000

i honstely can not believe that people that claim to know football and have an interest in it think that it was a pen!! the fact is the goalie pushed the ball away hence the fact it totally changed direction anything else ie carrick falling over is irrelelvant. thats the bottom line, he didnt go through the player he didnt push him over he didnt do anything but merely won a ball that was there to be won in a fair and law abiding way but this is United and they seem to play by a different rule book to the rest of us

By: Ahmed Bilal

Ahmed Bilal — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:00:06 +0000

@Victor for what it’s worth, Gomes got a touch, but it was more like his hand got in the way as Carrick tried to knock it away from him.