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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Patrick,
             Benayoun is a right sided central midfield player as opposed to a winger. He is most definitely NOT an orthodox winger. 
Read some of your own fans comments post the loss to Man Utd at Anfield yesterday......criticism of Rafa trying to play him as a winger.   
Kuyt may &#039;work his arse off&#039; but that&#039;s all he does. Hell you&#039;d work your arse off if given a game for Liverpool!! Comments from the Anfield faithfull today &quot;he&#039;s not good enough and doesn&#039;t provide the link to Torres&quot;.

Finally, if you think the beligerent journeyman Pennant is class and any answer to Liverpool&#039;s quest for a title then there&#039;s really no point in debating with you. He&#039;s average and has a bad attitude (well documented) and won&#039;t last much longer at Anfield. 

My article doesn&#039;t favour sacking Rafa, in fact, I believe that would be a big mistake right now and he has made progress. It simply points out the demands the American owners will place on him. This has been highlighted by all the recent hype and speculation surrounding the visit of the yanks yesterday. I believe that staying in the CL saved Rafa&#039;s bacon. 
How he spends his money will be key and that is the crux of what I argue. 
Vorinin, Kuyt, Pennant, Benayoun. In fact, revisit all the new names over the last 2 seasons and rate who you think will make a lasting impression, has the potential to be a Kop legend? Torres for sure and Babbel has the potential. A couple of younger players deserve more time. But that leaves a long list of names that have either already departed or that most Liverpool fans do not believe are the required quality to bring back the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Patrick,<br />
             Benayoun is a right sided central midfield player as opposed to a winger. He is most definitely NOT an orthodox winger.<br />
Read some of your own fans comments post the loss to Man Utd at Anfield yesterday&#8230;&#8230;criticism of Rafa trying to play him as a winger.<br />
Kuyt may &#8216;work his arse off&#8217; but that&#8217;s all he does. Hell you&#8217;d work your arse off if given a game for Liverpool!! Comments from the Anfield faithfull today &#8220;he&#8217;s not good enough and doesn&#8217;t provide the link to Torres&#8221;.</p>
<p>Finally, if you think the beligerent journeyman Pennant is class and any answer to Liverpool&#8217;s quest for a title then there&#8217;s really no point in debating with you. He&#8217;s average and has a bad attitude (well documented) and won&#8217;t last much longer at Anfield. </p>
<p>My article doesn&#8217;t favour sacking Rafa, in fact, I believe that would be a big mistake right now and he has made progress. It simply points out the demands the American owners will place on him. This has been highlighted by all the recent hype and speculation surrounding the visit of the yanks yesterday. I believe that staying in the CL saved Rafa&#8217;s bacon.<br />
How he spends his money will be key and that is the crux of what I argue.<br />
Vorinin, Kuyt, Pennant, Benayoun. In fact, revisit all the new names over the last 2 seasons and rate who you think will make a lasting impression, has the potential to be a Kop legend? Torres for sure and Babbel has the potential. A couple of younger players deserve more time. But that leaves a long list of names that have either already departed or that most Liverpool fans do not believe are the required quality to bring back the title.</p>
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		<title>By: frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, last season it was even worse for United and Chelsea.  Chelsea fought on 4 fronts throughout the season (Europe, EPL, FA Cup, and League); United on 3 fronts (Europe, EPL and FA Cup).  It was too much for their squads.  

Mourinho might have landed the Champions League or the EPL had Abramovich allowed him to recruit the players he wanted in the January transfer window.  But I&#039;ve got a feeling that Abramovich already wanted Mourinho out and so didn&#039;t want him to be too successful.  Otherwise, stopping Mourinho from buying players to bolster the club&#039;s challenges on all fronts simply makes no sense. The issue could not have been lack of funds to strengthen. 

Benitez might need to prioritise the EPL.  Going out of Europe might not be the worst thing ever to happen to Liverpool, although I think they will make it through to the knock out stages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, last season it was even worse for United and Chelsea.  Chelsea fought on 4 fronts throughout the season (Europe, EPL, FA Cup, and League); United on 3 fronts (Europe, EPL and FA Cup).  It was too much for their squads.  </p>
<p>Mourinho might have landed the Champions League or the EPL had Abramovich allowed him to recruit the players he wanted in the January transfer window.  But I&#8217;ve got a feeling that Abramovich already wanted Mourinho out and so didn&#8217;t want him to be too successful.  Otherwise, stopping Mourinho from buying players to bolster the club&#8217;s challenges on all fronts simply makes no sense. The issue could not have been lack of funds to strengthen. </p>
<p>Benitez might need to prioritise the EPL.  Going out of Europe might not be the worst thing ever to happen to Liverpool, although I think they will make it through to the knock out stages.</p>
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		<title>By: frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Injuries and squad depth is vital.  You cannot fight effectively on the two fronts of Champions League and Premier League without strength in depth.  It&#039;s more than coincidence, that both Milan and Liverpool were out of their respective title races by the turn of last year, and so had enough steam left in April to on and make it through to the European final. These teams were able to rest key players in domestic league fixtures before their semi-final clashes.  United and Chelsea didn&#039;t have that luxury because they were involved in a title run in.

It is no accident that United&#039;s form tailed off at the end of last season when they simply ran out of players and legs by the time they got to the second leg against Milan last season.  United went into that game with only one member of their first choice back four (and he was way off the pace in his first game back after injury) and also lacking fire power up front through injuries.  This is why Ferguson and Benitez have invested so heavily in building up the quality and numbers in their first team squads.  This is necessary if you are going to make a serious assault on the two big trophies.  

Luck with injuries will play a critical part in the destination of this season&#039;s big trophies.  Benitez has been criticised for &quot;rotation&quot; and perhaps he might have done this a little too much in the past.  But I know what he&#039;s trying to achieve.  He wants to make sure that his players are fit and fresh come March and April - the business end of the season.  There&#039;s no point in Torres being brilliant in October and knackered and out for the rest of the season by February.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Injuries and squad depth is vital.  You cannot fight effectively on the two fronts of Champions League and Premier League without strength in depth.  It&#8217;s more than coincidence, that both Milan and Liverpool were out of their respective title races by the turn of last year, and so had enough steam left in April to on and make it through to the European final. These teams were able to rest key players in domestic league fixtures before their semi-final clashes.  United and Chelsea didn&#8217;t have that luxury because they were involved in a title run in.</p>
<p>It is no accident that United&#8217;s form tailed off at the end of last season when they simply ran out of players and legs by the time they got to the second leg against Milan last season.  United went into that game with only one member of their first choice back four (and he was way off the pace in his first game back after injury) and also lacking fire power up front through injuries.  This is why Ferguson and Benitez have invested so heavily in building up the quality and numbers in their first team squads.  This is necessary if you are going to make a serious assault on the two big trophies.  </p>
<p>Luck with injuries will play a critical part in the destination of this season&#8217;s big trophies.  Benitez has been criticised for &#8220;rotation&#8221; and perhaps he might have done this a little too much in the past.  But I know what he&#8217;s trying to achieve.  He wants to make sure that his players are fit and fresh come March and April &#8211; the business end of the season.  There&#8217;s no point in Torres being brilliant in October and knackered and out for the rest of the season by February.</p>
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		<title>By: Liverpool_Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liverpool_Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we do not keep our key players fit i also think united will win the league they are now looking stronger than arsenal (no offence to arsenal). United are back to the way they were last season but they are also having bad luck with injuries (aswell as Chelsea).

Arsenal haven&#039;t had key players injured the way Liverpool, United and Chelsea have and like Gerrard said it will be a test to their sqaud depth. They would be an extremely lucky side to go up until christmas without a key injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we do not keep our key players fit i also think united will win the league they are now looking stronger than arsenal (no offence to arsenal). United are back to the way they were last season but they are also having bad luck with injuries (aswell as Chelsea).</p>
<p>Arsenal haven&#8217;t had key players injured the way Liverpool, United and Chelsea have and like Gerrard said it will be a test to their sqaud depth. They would be an extremely lucky side to go up until christmas without a key injury.</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benitez is a tremendous manager with a great track record.  In three years in Europe he has outperformed Mourinho, Wenger and Ferguson.  And look how long Wenger and Ferguson have been going at it in Europe.  

Building a championship winning team will take time unless you are able to throw 100s of millions at it like Chelsea. I hold no torch for Liverpool, but there are firmly still in the race this season. Paisley and Shankly understood that you don&#039;t win titles in November; but you do need to keep in touch at the top during this part of the season. 

This season will be one of the most exciting in the history of the Premier League.  There is going to be a genuine three or four way fight for the title right down to the wire. It&#039;s a high class field: Arsenal, Chelsea and United have extremely good sides. Liverpool may not win it this year (I think United will), but they have every chance of doing so in the next 2 or 3 years.  Benitez is putting together virtually a new team and it may take 12 to 18 months before you see this team at its best. He is a football manager, not an alchemist. Benitez&#039; buys for the most part have been good ones, and Liverpool definitely have a squad stronger than at any time during Benitez&#039;s tenure.  Remember also that players new to the Premiership rarely produce their best form in their first season.  Look at people like Drogba, Hleb, Vidic and Evra.

Who is better than Benitez out there and would be available to Liverpool?  What Benitez has achieved in his career bears comparison with any manager/coach in Europe.  Since leaving Valencia, they have become a shadow of their former selves.  In his first year with the Pool they won the Champions League; something they had not come close to doing in over 20 years.  2 years later he takes them back to a Champions League final.  In between, he wins the FA cup. Message to Liverpool fans: lighten up, show some loyalty and STAND BY YOUR MAN.  You&#039;d be mad to tell Benitez to &quot;walk alone&quot; into the sunset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benitez is a tremendous manager with a great track record.  In three years in Europe he has outperformed Mourinho, Wenger and Ferguson.  And look how long Wenger and Ferguson have been going at it in Europe.  </p>
<p>Building a championship winning team will take time unless you are able to throw 100s of millions at it like Chelsea. I hold no torch for Liverpool, but there are firmly still in the race this season. Paisley and Shankly understood that you don&#8217;t win titles in November; but you do need to keep in touch at the top during this part of the season. </p>
<p>This season will be one of the most exciting in the history of the Premier League.  There is going to be a genuine three or four way fight for the title right down to the wire. It&#8217;s a high class field: Arsenal, Chelsea and United have extremely good sides. Liverpool may not win it this year (I think United will), but they have every chance of doing so in the next 2 or 3 years.  Benitez is putting together virtually a new team and it may take 12 to 18 months before you see this team at its best. He is a football manager, not an alchemist. Benitez&#8217; buys for the most part have been good ones, and Liverpool definitely have a squad stronger than at any time during Benitez&#8217;s tenure.  Remember also that players new to the Premiership rarely produce their best form in their first season.  Look at people like Drogba, Hleb, Vidic and Evra.</p>
<p>Who is better than Benitez out there and would be available to Liverpool?  What Benitez has achieved in his career bears comparison with any manager/coach in Europe.  Since leaving Valencia, they have become a shadow of their former selves.  In his first year with the Pool they won the Champions League; something they had not come close to doing in over 20 years.  2 years later he takes them back to a Champions League final.  In between, he wins the FA cup. Message to Liverpool fans: lighten up, show some loyalty and STAND BY YOUR MAN.  You&#8217;d be mad to tell Benitez to &#8220;walk alone&#8221; into the sunset.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wrote this, you are an idiot. You know nothing about the beautiful game. Pennant, nothing special at the beginning of his Liverpool career, but look at him now. MOTM in a CL final mean anything to you? I can understand you critizing Bellamy, but not Rafa. Before this year, Rafa never had the money to spend on world class strikers. Kuyt, if you had any idea about football, works his arse of when he&#039;s on the pitch. On top of that, he creates opportunities for himself and others. Aurelio, I can&#039;t see how you can critizise him, considering he&#039;s been out injured for most of his time here. I can&#039;t believe you are saying this when he hasn&#039;t even had time to show us what he&#039;s got, you moron. Gonzalez probably never had time to settle, but I can understand you on the topic of him, Fowler and Paletta. Thats about all I understand. Voronin has been playing superbly for us this season, and you would know this is you watched games like Besiktas. Babel, he is going to be class. He&#039;s not as good as Nani yet because Nani is older than him, and is playing in his prefered position. Babel is still being converted to a winger, so before you open your mouth, give him a chance. Benayoun, by the way, is playing as a WINGER, you nitwit, and you would know this if you watched some games. He has not played in CM once this season. Leto and Lucas don&#039;t look like world beaters because they are very young, and I must say, I&#039;m very, very impressed by Lucas. You would be as well if you watched the derby, as every Liverpool fan should. Finally, Itandje is a BACKUP keeper. You don&#039;t buy class backup keepers, because they are BACKUP, so don&#039;t even start on saying that he is not good enough to play for us. Me, someone who knows a thing or two about football, I give Rafa a 7 or 8 on his buys this year, because he got some cheap talent (Benayoun, Voronin) some expensive talent (Torres) and some outstanding youth talent (Lucas, Babel and maybe Leto).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wrote this, you are an idiot. You know nothing about the beautiful game. Pennant, nothing special at the beginning of his Liverpool career, but look at him now. MOTM in a CL final mean anything to you? I can understand you critizing Bellamy, but not Rafa. Before this year, Rafa never had the money to spend on world class strikers. Kuyt, if you had any idea about football, works his arse of when he&#8217;s on the pitch. On top of that, he creates opportunities for himself and others. Aurelio, I can&#8217;t see how you can critizise him, considering he&#8217;s been out injured for most of his time here. I can&#8217;t believe you are saying this when he hasn&#8217;t even had time to show us what he&#8217;s got, you moron. Gonzalez probably never had time to settle, but I can understand you on the topic of him, Fowler and Paletta. Thats about all I understand. Voronin has been playing superbly for us this season, and you would know this is you watched games like Besiktas. Babel, he is going to be class. He&#8217;s not as good as Nani yet because Nani is older than him, and is playing in his prefered position. Babel is still being converted to a winger, so before you open your mouth, give him a chance. Benayoun, by the way, is playing as a WINGER, you nitwit, and you would know this if you watched some games. He has not played in CM once this season. Leto and Lucas don&#8217;t look like world beaters because they are very young, and I must say, I&#8217;m very, very impressed by Lucas. You would be as well if you watched the derby, as every Liverpool fan should. Finally, Itandje is a BACKUP keeper. You don&#8217;t buy class backup keepers, because they are BACKUP, so don&#8217;t even start on saying that he is not good enough to play for us. Me, someone who knows a thing or two about football, I give Rafa a 7 or 8 on his buys this year, because he got some cheap talent (Benayoun, Voronin) some expensive talent (Torres) and some outstanding youth talent (Lucas, Babel and maybe Leto).</p>
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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Blotchy Scot
It&#039;s the fact that Liverpool have been in the shadow of United for 17 years now that has you so bitter. If that&#039;s the intellectual sum of your ability to debate then why not just piss off...there&#039;s a good lad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Blotchy Scot<br />
It&#8217;s the fact that Liverpool have been in the shadow of United for 17 years now that has you so bitter. If that&#8217;s the intellectual sum of your ability to debate then why not just piss off&#8230;there&#8217;s a good lad!</p>
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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arvin, Not a closet United fan, fully out out in open actually.
You do understand the difference between fact and opinion don&#039;t you? The only real facts in my article are the players bought by Benitez (and Houllier). The rest is opinion. If you&#039;d like to point out what facts you are referring to I am all ears.  

Secondly, here are some quotes from your article &quot;Benitez letting Liverpool down&quot; posted the other day:
&quot;Rafa has not achieved the necessary balance&quot;
&quot;Babel will be a good player, but it will take time.&quot; 
&quot;Liverpool DON&#039;T have time.&quot;
&quot;Sell Kuyt. Voronin......give him another season.&quot; 
&quot;Benitez will continue to let us down as far as the league is concerned.&quot;

It seems it is alright for you to have reservations and opinions regarding Benitez&#039;s performance (including the quality of players that have been brought in) but not other people.

Same applies to a number of the other responses that don&#039;t even engage in debate.
I accept some points in realtion to Benayoun, Lucas, Leto. Time will tell.   

I&#039;ll be here in 3 months and 6 months and will happily accept if my opinions are wrong.
I&#039;ll always be happy to debate the issues though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arvin, Not a closet United fan, fully out out in open actually.<br />
You do understand the difference between fact and opinion don&#8217;t you? The only real facts in my article are the players bought by Benitez (and Houllier). The rest is opinion. If you&#8217;d like to point out what facts you are referring to I am all ears.  </p>
<p>Secondly, here are some quotes from your article &#8220;Benitez letting Liverpool down&#8221; posted the other day:<br />
&#8220;Rafa has not achieved the necessary balance&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Babel will be a good player, but it will take time.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Liverpool DON&#8217;T have time.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Sell Kuyt. Voronin&#8230;&#8230;give him another season.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Benitez will continue to let us down as far as the league is concerned.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems it is alright for you to have reservations and opinions regarding Benitez&#8217;s performance (including the quality of players that have been brought in) but not other people.</p>
<p>Same applies to a number of the other responses that don&#8217;t even engage in debate.<br />
I accept some points in realtion to Benayoun, Lucas, Leto. Time will tell.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be here in 3 months and 6 months and will happily accept if my opinions are wrong.<br />
I&#8217;ll always be happy to debate the issues though.</p>
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		<title>By: Liverpool_Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liverpool_Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gov im the only liverpool fan to say  that about lucas stop being sterotypical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gov im the only liverpool fan to say  that about lucas stop being sterotypical!</p>
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		<title>By: Liverpool_Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liverpool_Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arsenal only got a point at blackburn?</description>
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