Social Inertia in Football and Keith Hackett on goal-line technology and video-based retrospective punishments
In the furore surrounding Javier Mascherano’s dismissal (can we get past that now, please?), some interesting comments by Keith Hackett on Sunday morning (part of his column in the Independent) almost went unnoticed – I say almost, and thank Mihir Bose of the BBC for bringing it to the attention of the general public.
Hackett spoke about the need for players to respect referees (for setting a good example, if nothing else), the Ashley Cole incident of Saturday (very interesting comments those), Bennett’s role in that incident or lack thereof, on comments by Sir Alex Ferguson that the likes of Ronaldo needed more protection and most poignantly perhaps, criticism of Fifa / IFAB of sidelining technology despite evidence that it will actually improve matters on the pitch.
Some excerpts:
I must address Ashley Cole’s behaviour that night and say that where there are reckless challenges with excessive force that endanger the safety of an opponent, it is clearly a red card. But as a referee, you have to see them. On this occasion the referee, Mike Riley, did not have the viewing angle afforded to him.…
Cole turning his back on the referee was in my opinion a very clear act of public dissent and belittling of a referee.
The player, having already been shown a yellow card, should have gone. But in terms of the original foul, I say again, Mike Riley did not see the boot going over the top. Afterwards, when he saw it again, I know for a fact he thought Cole should have gone.
Unfortunately, Fifa do not allow restrospective punishments, except in cases of mistaken identity, but it would certainly help.
Retrospective punishment is a touchy issue – the arguments commonly advanced against it smack of stubborn, nay, anal resistance to change rather any serious danger to the game itself. The authority of referees cannot be undermined (there to get things right, surely that takes precedence?), the whole practice would be a waste of time (banning a player for injuring a player is a waste of time because it doesn’t do justice?), you can never be sure even in video replays (that happens only in a limited number of cases, we’re talking about clear mistakes that are made on the pitch) and once it starts, it can never stop (surely it’s not a cocaine addiction and the authorities can set limits to the amount of review allowed?).
Retrospective punishments allow the FA to set the record straight in case the referee doesn’t get it right on the pitch – in that way it is fair to the game, the players AND the fans, a primary responsibility of the FA one would imagine. In a system where referees can review their performances and not be berated in the press for getting it wrong the first time, there is less pressure and consequently, a greater dedication towards ‘getting it right’ without the thought of ‘I need to appear to get things right’ (a subtle but damaging influence in football today).
And opposition players will have less reason to berate the ref – especially since they will be safe in the knowledge that retrospective decisions could set the record straight.
You can’t ban everyone who swears at the ref – that would lead in the likes of Wayne Rooney to be sent off in the first 10 minutes of the game. At the same time, you can’t have people complaining about every decision – it serves no purpose and the petty squabbling only distracts players from the game itself.
Yes, video-based retrospective punishments will cause a new set of problems – but it is nothing that can’t be handled. At the very least we should be willing to try it.
Keith Hackkett on Hawk-eye
When it comes to big matches like the ones we have today, every decision comes under enormous scrutiny by the media and supporters. That is why I am particularly concerned about the recent decision by the International FA Board to stop experiments with goal-line technology. I was very much in favour of the Hawk-Eye system used in tennis and cricket, in which a signal is transmitted to the referee within about half a second.
It’s a great support mechanism and would be a far more accurate decision than what can be achieved with human eyes. There is no rhyme, reason or logic why they have now frozen it because every single one of the four criteria had been met. It’s a kick in the teeth for referees around the world.
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All this decision does is keep us where we have been. We will permanently have conflict. I saw the Hawk-Eye experiment in action at Reading a few weeks ago; all the IFAB technical people were there and were wholly supportive to a man.
Any sceptics were converted there and then, which makes the decision to put the whole thing on ice nonsensical.
Football’s biggest enemy, it seems, is a refusal to change. Such an attitude would have caused the downfall of a manager or player years ago, yet we continue to blunder through without so much so as a glimmer of hope that the issues we’ve been discussing for the last few years are any closer to being resolved today than they were 2-4 years ago.
Take the issue of only captains approaching referees – it’s simple, it’s proven to work, and it’s worth a trial at the very minimum – perhaps only in the domestic league, or even a lower-level league. It isn’t difficult to understand or follow, and apart from the initial hesitation (of giving yellow cards to those who complain directly to the ref), there are no obstacles to the proposal.
Except social inertia. And this failure of action hurts football far more than Keano’s tackles, Ferguson’s rants, Rooney’s swearing, Ronaldo’s diving or United’s ticket prices ever will.
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Let’s face it…we all thrive on the controversy and it has been around as long as the game has.
People go on and on about consistency from referees but as long as human judgement and interpretation is relied upon in a game played with pace, where the officials can’t possibly spot everything and have to make split second decisions,then there will never be consistency.
Unless you want to radically change things by using technology, multiple referees etc. you have to accept it.
I believe that the controversy introduced by the human factor acts as an extra dimension and creates lively and polarised/ biased debate amongst us all.
The old adage that it balances out over a season is generally true.
Agreed on the approaching the referee bit but I’m not sure how you control the running comments from players when the ref is in the vicinity. If you start to book people for that it gets very difficult. After all its an emotional and passionate game.
March 25th, 2008 @ 06:16Here’s an interesting piece from 1935 when they actually trialed having 2 referees!! Controversial refereeing has been on the agenda as long as the game has existed.
Two Referees: On 11 May 1935, one of two unique matches took place at Goodison Park as part of the George V Jubilee. Warney Cresswell, Albert Geldard, Cliff Britton and Charles Leyfield played as Everton representatives for the Football League v Wales & Ireland. The Football League side won 10-2, with Leyfield scoring a goal. This match was part of the only “two-referees” trial in English football. There were two Jubilee matches, with the first at The Hawthorns three days earlier when the Football League beat West Brom 9-6, and both were “two-referee” trial matches.
March 25th, 2008 @ 06:28Not to get into an argument but…
Let’s face it…we all thrive on the controversy and it has been around as long as the game has.
Does that justify the wrong decisions? Do two wrongs (or more), make a right, just because it is ‘natural’? Beating your wife when she disobeyed you was controversial and had been around for a long time in society, but you can see that it is wrong.
If something is wrong, would you not remove it instead of justifying its existence through tradition?
People go on and on about consistency from referees but as long as human judgement and interpretation is relied upon in a game played with pace, where the officials can’t possibly spot everything and have to make split second decisions,then there will never be consistency.
A distinction should be made here – we need to minimize errors. If technology can help do that without slowing down the game (and it can) or damaging the spirit of the game (I’m pretty sure getting away with diving or breaking your opponent’s leg or even getting away with the ball crossing the goal line, is NOT in the ‘spirit of the game’), then let’s do it.
Unless you want to radically change things by using technology, multiple referees etc. you have to accept it.
I do, and I disagree that it would be radical – technology can be gradually and minimally introduced. Baby steps, but at least some steps.
I believe that the controversy introduced by the human factor acts as an extra dimension and creates lively and polarised/ biased debate amongst us all.
Lively and polarised/biased debate exists already in terms of analysing performances and predicting outcomes ahead of a game. They would exist even if you measured each player’s performance using detailed statistics and even if the result of a game could be predicted using statistical probabilities.
This debate stems from our emotions, not from the unnecessarily wrong decisions given on the pitch. Our emotions are attached to the game and more specifically to how we identify ourselves with teams and players – they are not going to be threatened by technology.
And no, trial by media (the way Taylor under-went after Eduardo’s injury) does not count. The trial by media spreads falsehood and often drowns out the truth.
The old adage that it balances out over a season is generally true.
Statistically speaking, it doesn’t balance out over a season but over a far longer period of time. Practically speaking, that’s a bullshit excuse. Just because everyone gets screwed over does not make it ok for them get screwed over. Getting screwed over is not a democratic or universal right, it’s something preventable.
This ‘balances out’ thing is a bit like saying: Oh, we all get tackled from behind sooner or later so if I break a leg, surely it will balance out at the end of the season when someone else breaks a leg too.
Agreed on the approaching the referee bit but I’m not sure how you control the running comments from players when the ref is in the vicinity. If you start to book people for that it gets very difficult.
Agreed, you cannot and you shouldnt control that. But I’m sure that one can set certain conditions that are acceptable to everyone?
After all its an emotional and passionate game.
That doesn’t excuse Rooney (I take his name because, as a United fan, I know I’ll have it thrown in my face sooner or later) from running up to the ref and clapping sarcastically in his face, or running up to the ref and swearing at him. Decision’s given, you know it’s not going to be reversed, showing your anger at the ref is a waste for the team and for the game.
Mobbing the ref is perhaps wrong, even for an emotional and passionate sport?
March 25th, 2008 @ 10:18You’re always going to get human error, no matter what sport you’re in. For all the technology in the world, often you’ll get debates over whether it was a foul or not, and what level of punishment is necessary.
What you can do is work towards cutting down the number of errors without going overboard or driving the game towards inertia at points.
Wenger’s always said that football can learn a lot from rugby, in terms of refereeing, and one of those points has been picked on on here: only the captains or the player involved in the foul is allowed to approach the referee. I think this broadly works in rugby and would be good for football.
Secondly, video replays. These aren’t always spot on, and can still be contentious (think England’s try in the World Cup Final – you could still argue if his foot was over the line) but do help bring another dispassionate pair of eyes to the matter.
For example, if the ref and his assistants are unsure of the severity of the tackle, or miss an off-the-ball incident, the TV ref can signal down or be asked for his opinion. Providing this is used sensibly it shouldn’t hold up the game too much. Think of Martyn Williams’ recent sin-binning in the Six Nations. It was a cynical trip but missed by the referee, who produced the card once his colleague in the gallery had alerted him. No complaints from anyone and the players got on with the game.
March 25th, 2008 @ 12:29> Retrospective punishment is a touchy issue – the arguments commonly advanced against it smack of stubborn, nay, anal resistance to change rather any serious danger to the game itself. … once it starts, it can never stop (surely it’s not a cocaine addiction and the authorities can set limits to the amount of review allowed?)
I think they’re right, once it starts it won’t stop. Because it shouldn’t. Not until most important decisions are made by video refs. Not with retrospective punishment and goal-line technology anyway.
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