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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kristian: You&#039;re right about damned lies and statistics! I was going with this from the BBC: 

Shots on target: Chelsea 9 Man Utd 10 
Shots off target: Chelsea 3 Man Utd 11 
Corners: Chelsea 0 Man Utd 7 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8343319.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kristian: You&#8217;re right about damned lies and statistics! I was going with this from the BBC: </p>
<p>Shots on target: Chelsea 9 Man Utd 10<br />
Shots off target: Chelsea 3 Man Utd 11<br />
Corners: Chelsea 0 Man Utd 7 </p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8343319.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8343319.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: alby</title>
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		<dc:creator>alby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gaurav- no chance of a penalty(outside the box).cole was not fouled.fletcher clearly touched the ball.evans was clear favourate to win d ball &amp; drogba was not even looking at d ball.he was steaming into evans.

Ref could&#039;nt rule it in favour of drogba bcoz evans was in the air,won the ball &amp; drogba running towards him.in football rulebook it is specified that extra protection is to b given to d player who is winning the ball.

@Mickey-look at d chelsea-barca match(ucl 09). drogba was in his own &amp; roled around the ground on atleast 10 occations.

And for the match Man Utd dominated the match &amp; the so called deadliest attack of bpl looked like pussy cats in front of united&#039;s second string difence.it took chelsea the help of the ref to win the community sheald as well as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gaurav- no chance of a penalty(outside the box).cole was not fouled.fletcher clearly touched the ball.evans was clear favourate to win d ball &amp; drogba was not even looking at d ball.he was steaming into evans.</p>
<p>Ref could&#8217;nt rule it in favour of drogba bcoz evans was in the air,won the ball &amp; drogba running towards him.in football rulebook it is specified that extra protection is to b given to d player who is winning the ball.</p>
<p>@Mickey-look at d chelsea-barca match(ucl 09). drogba was in his own &amp; roled around the ground on atleast 10 occations.</p>
<p>And for the match Man Utd dominated the match &amp; the so called deadliest attack of bpl looked like pussy cats in front of united&#8217;s second string difence.it took chelsea the help of the ref to win the community sheald as well as this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Davi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary - I agree with your assessment of the match. I didn&#039;t think either side threatened the goal too much, and the only really clear chance was valencia&#039;s which came after chelsea&#039;s goal.

On evans tho, the guy should be hit with a 3-5 match ban given the current climate of things. It was clearly pre-meditated and just was a cowardly and disgusting thing to do. This sort of thing is FAR worse than diving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary &#8211; I agree with your assessment of the match. I didn&#8217;t think either side threatened the goal too much, and the only really clear chance was valencia&#8217;s which came after chelsea&#8217;s goal.</p>
<p>On evans tho, the guy should be hit with a 3-5 match ban given the current climate of things. It was clearly pre-meditated and just was a cowardly and disgusting thing to do. This sort of thing is FAR worse than diving.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristian,
I&#039;m not sure BD is lying, when you look at Man U&#039;s total shots was 18 to Chelsea&#039;s 12, and also Man U had 7 corner&#039;s to Chelsea&#039;s 0.

I think it was a very tightly contested match that I always thought 1 goal would nick it, in this case Chelsea got the goal.

I&#039;m proud of the way man u contested the match despite Ferdinand and Vidic being missing, I don&#039;t think one team dominated the match, it was very close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristian,<br />
I&#8217;m not sure BD is lying, when you look at Man U&#8217;s total shots was 18 to Chelsea&#8217;s 12, and also Man U had 7 corner&#8217;s to Chelsea&#8217;s 0.</p>
<p>I think it was a very tightly contested match that I always thought 1 goal would nick it, in this case Chelsea got the goal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m proud of the way man u contested the match despite Ferdinand and Vidic being missing, I don&#8217;t think one team dominated the match, it was very close.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian Downer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian Downer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fully backed up by which stats???

Goals - Chelsea 1 Man Utd 0
Shots On Target - Chelsea 6 Manchester United 2
Passing Success - Chelsea 
Tackle Success - Chelsea
Territorial Advantage - Chelsea
Possession - Manchester United  with 53.1%

Manchester United played well but in no way did they dominate the game in any area that is significant i.e goals or shots.

http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3162395,00.html

Remember there are damned lies and statistics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fully backed up by which stats???</p>
<p>Goals &#8211; Chelsea 1 Man Utd 0<br />
Shots On Target &#8211; Chelsea 6 Manchester United 2<br />
Passing Success &#8211; Chelsea<br />
Tackle Success &#8211; Chelsea<br />
Territorial Advantage &#8211; Chelsea<br />
Possession &#8211; Manchester United  with 53.1%</p>
<p>Manchester United played well but in no way did they dominate the game in any area that is significant i.e goals or shots.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3162395,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3162395,00.html</a></p>
<p>Remember there are damned lies and statistics</p>
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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course one interpretation is that Evans was so surprised at seeing Drogba had escaped from his pocket that he kicked-out in a sort off &quot;get back where I put you&#039; kind of way.

Unfortunatley he hadn&#039;t quite secured Drogba again before he fouled Brown as Chelsea stole an undeserved win.

But let&#039;s move on.....I&#039;ve already forgotten that, this tine last week, Drogba was about to destroy Utd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course one interpretation is that Evans was so surprised at seeing Drogba had escaped from his pocket that he kicked-out in a sort off &#8220;get back where I put you&#8217; kind of way.</p>
<p>Unfortunatley he hadn&#8217;t quite secured Drogba again before he fouled Brown as Chelsea stole an undeserved win.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s move on&#8230;..I&#8217;ve already forgotten that, this tine last week, Drogba was about to destroy Utd!</p>
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		<title>By: BD Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the old controversial incident play! Chelsea fans see is as a full-on assualt, Utd fans see it differently, neutrals see it as a chance to have a go at both players.

However, take the out-of-body experience when viewing the incident and you may just conclude that it is impossible to say what either players&#039; intentions were (other than Drogba&#039;s &#039;shot by a sniper&#039; antics, which even his own teammates take with a pinch of salt these days.)

Suffice to say that it was only one of a number of controversial incidents in the game, not to mention the 3 that surrounded Chelsea&#039;a goal...all going in the home teams favour.

But WTF, that&#039;s fotball and every match has it&#039;s twists and turns.

My conclusion? As a Utd fan I was proud to see my team outplay Chelsea and be the better team, fully supported by the stats!

4 in a row is definitely on if Fergie gives up the endless rotation in midfield and sticks with his best selection. Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson should stsrt every time when fit.

It&#039;s been a while since we went to the Bridge and made Chelsea look 2nd best but it&#039;s a good omen for the season.

The rest is history......get over it!

PS: Good to see Nani shafting himself today. That&#039;s 1 more option we can do without costing us results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the old controversial incident play! Chelsea fans see is as a full-on assualt, Utd fans see it differently, neutrals see it as a chance to have a go at both players.</p>
<p>However, take the out-of-body experience when viewing the incident and you may just conclude that it is impossible to say what either players&#8217; intentions were (other than Drogba&#8217;s &#8216;shot by a sniper&#8217; antics, which even his own teammates take with a pinch of salt these days.)</p>
<p>Suffice to say that it was only one of a number of controversial incidents in the game, not to mention the 3 that surrounded Chelsea&#8217;a goal&#8230;all going in the home teams favour.</p>
<p>But WTF, that&#8217;s fotball and every match has it&#8217;s twists and turns.</p>
<p>My conclusion? As a Utd fan I was proud to see my team outplay Chelsea and be the better team, fully supported by the stats!</p>
<p>4 in a row is definitely on if Fergie gives up the endless rotation in midfield and sticks with his best selection. Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson should stsrt every time when fit.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a while since we went to the Bridge and made Chelsea look 2nd best but it&#8217;s a good omen for the season.</p>
<p>The rest is history&#8230;&#8230;get over it!</p>
<p>PS: Good to see Nani shafting himself today. That&#8217;s 1 more option we can do without costing us results.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squiddy,
Can you please take your blue tinted glasses off? You are so pro chelsea its unbelievable.

In one arguement you say Fletcher won the ball by discreet methoud of kicking Cole, but on the Ivanovich tackle he won the ball first, at knee height when giggs was running with the ball at his feet, how exactly does this work?

Ivanovich slide in with only one thing in mind, stop Ryan Giggs getting passed him, which he did by sticking his studs into his knee. Giggs didn&#039;t roll around, didn&#039;t make a huge fuss and remonstrate with the referee, he got on with the game, that is why Giggs is one of the reasons he is probably the most respected player in the EPL. But on your arguement, with Ivanovich going in with the intent of stopping giggs and doing it so crudely then Giggs should of called him his local police station?

Your explanation of the Essien foul was a joke as well. He simply over stretched in an attempt to win the ball back, studs up, high is not simply over stretching. A vital organ was not at risk, it may not be an organ but im pretty sure Assuncao needs his shin bone to be able to play. IF essien had broken his leg in the tackle Assuncao would be out of the game for months, all for an &#039;over stretch&#039;.

You haven&#039;t really been objective at all.

I can at the very least say Evans fouled Drogba and should of seen red, if the ref had seen the angle from behind the goals or the linesman on the other side of the pitch I&#039;m sure he would of been off. You on the other hand can&#039;t even contemplate that Drogba may have over reacted.

You show your true colours by saying that the ref didn&#039;t make any mistakes for the decisions in chelsea&#039;s favour. It shows you are totaly incompetent at making an unbiased judgement. Again if the linesman was on the other side for the terry/valencia incident then it was a penalty, but i guess your arguement would be that valencia thrust his shirt into terry&#039;s hand, fell over and dragged terry down with him.

Fans like you do the game no favours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squiddy,<br />
Can you please take your blue tinted glasses off? You are so pro chelsea its unbelievable.</p>
<p>In one arguement you say Fletcher won the ball by discreet methoud of kicking Cole, but on the Ivanovich tackle he won the ball first, at knee height when giggs was running with the ball at his feet, how exactly does this work?</p>
<p>Ivanovich slide in with only one thing in mind, stop Ryan Giggs getting passed him, which he did by sticking his studs into his knee. Giggs didn&#8217;t roll around, didn&#8217;t make a huge fuss and remonstrate with the referee, he got on with the game, that is why Giggs is one of the reasons he is probably the most respected player in the EPL. But on your arguement, with Ivanovich going in with the intent of stopping giggs and doing it so crudely then Giggs should of called him his local police station?</p>
<p>Your explanation of the Essien foul was a joke as well. He simply over stretched in an attempt to win the ball back, studs up, high is not simply over stretching. A vital organ was not at risk, it may not be an organ but im pretty sure Assuncao needs his shin bone to be able to play. IF essien had broken his leg in the tackle Assuncao would be out of the game for months, all for an &#8216;over stretch&#8217;.</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t really been objective at all.</p>
<p>I can at the very least say Evans fouled Drogba and should of seen red, if the ref had seen the angle from behind the goals or the linesman on the other side of the pitch I&#8217;m sure he would of been off. You on the other hand can&#8217;t even contemplate that Drogba may have over reacted.</p>
<p>You show your true colours by saying that the ref didn&#8217;t make any mistakes for the decisions in chelsea&#8217;s favour. It shows you are totaly incompetent at making an unbiased judgement. Again if the linesman was on the other side for the terry/valencia incident then it was a penalty, but i guess your arguement would be that valencia thrust his shirt into terry&#8217;s hand, fell over and dragged terry down with him.</p>
<p>Fans like you do the game no favours.</p>
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		<title>By: Squiddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claude - regarding your points:
1) Indeed Rooney wasn&#039;t offside, but as soon as the whistle went he stopped and for the only time in the game he didn&#039;t complain. That&#039;s because he thought he was offside too. Not such a terrible decision after all. Wrong, but believable in Rooney&#039;s own opinion.

2) Brown dived. If it was Drogba who went down you&#039;d have laughed. In this case I laughed. As Jeff Winter rightly said, at the point when the header was made the prone and pansyfied Brown played Drogba onside anyway. Check yourself. As far as the free kick went, it was so blatantly correct it&#039;s not funny. Fletcher won the ball by the very discreet nethod of kicking Cole&#039;s leg 4 feet up in the air. Yet you think it wasn&#039;t bit you think Drogba still fouled Brown? Impressive. Laughably impressive.

3) Drogba was nowhere near Brown in fact. It required Evans&#039; momentum plus extending his leg to even reach Drogba, who must&#039;ve been 2 yards away at the point the ball was cleared. On the contrary, Evans ensured he took Drogba along with the kitchen sink while hiding behind his clearance. What was a leg doing 5 foot up in the air and how did it get there in a 10th of a second? Answer: it was a premeditated assault. Obvious really.

Neil: &quot;Ivanovich tried to take off Giggs’ leg at the knee&quot;
He went a funny way about it by getting the ball first, didn&#039;t he. I thought that was your excuse for Evans getting away with his foul - that he cleared the ball and Drogba was just the unfortunate bystander. Wanting it both ways? Not &#039;arf.

In fact this was an example of why the ref was actually in United&#039;s pocket all day. Sliding tackles were made by both sides, but only Ivanovic got booked. Carvalho was guilty of dribbling a ball away (yellow) but Evans (again) sliced him down after the whistle was blown (serious foul play and automatic red in the laws of the game) but the ref failed to follow the rules. And Drogba&#039;s card - no-one actually knows what that was for do they. I mean, no-one&#039;s formally said. And for all the chasing of the ref by 4, 5, 6 &amp; 7 players there&#039;s no charge of failing to control players either.

I think the ref made a few mistakes during the game, but not for any decision made in Chelsea&#039;s favour. Quite the opposite in fact.

But Fergie told us what to think after the game. The ref was in a bad position for the goal, he said. I wonder why he didn&#039;t tell us about the bad position he was in for the Evans foul. Funny that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claude &#8211; regarding your points:<br />
1) Indeed Rooney wasn&#8217;t offside, but as soon as the whistle went he stopped and for the only time in the game he didn&#8217;t complain. That&#8217;s because he thought he was offside too. Not such a terrible decision after all. Wrong, but believable in Rooney&#8217;s own opinion.</p>
<p>2) Brown dived. If it was Drogba who went down you&#8217;d have laughed. In this case I laughed. As Jeff Winter rightly said, at the point when the header was made the prone and pansyfied Brown played Drogba onside anyway. Check yourself. As far as the free kick went, it was so blatantly correct it&#8217;s not funny. Fletcher won the ball by the very discreet nethod of kicking Cole&#8217;s leg 4 feet up in the air. Yet you think it wasn&#8217;t bit you think Drogba still fouled Brown? Impressive. Laughably impressive.</p>
<p>3) Drogba was nowhere near Brown in fact. It required Evans&#8217; momentum plus extending his leg to even reach Drogba, who must&#8217;ve been 2 yards away at the point the ball was cleared. On the contrary, Evans ensured he took Drogba along with the kitchen sink while hiding behind his clearance. What was a leg doing 5 foot up in the air and how did it get there in a 10th of a second? Answer: it was a premeditated assault. Obvious really.</p>
<p>Neil: &#8220;Ivanovich tried to take off Giggs’ leg at the knee&#8221;<br />
He went a funny way about it by getting the ball first, didn&#8217;t he. I thought that was your excuse for Evans getting away with his foul &#8211; that he cleared the ball and Drogba was just the unfortunate bystander. Wanting it both ways? Not &#8216;arf.</p>
<p>In fact this was an example of why the ref was actually in United&#8217;s pocket all day. Sliding tackles were made by both sides, but only Ivanovic got booked. Carvalho was guilty of dribbling a ball away (yellow) but Evans (again) sliced him down after the whistle was blown (serious foul play and automatic red in the laws of the game) but the ref failed to follow the rules. And Drogba&#8217;s card &#8211; no-one actually knows what that was for do they. I mean, no-one&#8217;s formally said. And for all the chasing of the ref by 4, 5, 6 &amp; 7 players there&#8217;s no charge of failing to control players either.</p>
<p>I think the ref made a few mistakes during the game, but not for any decision made in Chelsea&#8217;s favour. Quite the opposite in fact.</p>
<p>But Fergie told us what to think after the game. The ref was in a bad position for the goal, he said. I wonder why he didn&#8217;t tell us about the bad position he was in for the Evans foul. Funny that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenno</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Squiddy

I&#039;m not entering the argument just providing evidence.

Q) If I say Drogba hasn’t gone down untouched more than once in 231 games it makes me accurate, not deluded. I’ve asked you to prove otherwise and you haven’t.

A)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbU2zejzgk

That&#039;s fairly blatant :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Squiddy</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entering the argument just providing evidence.</p>
<p>Q) If I say Drogba hasn’t gone down untouched more than once in 231 games it makes me accurate, not deluded. I’ve asked you to prove otherwise and you haven’t.</p>
<p>A)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbU2zejzgk</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fairly blatant :p</p>
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