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	<title>Comments on: Italian Hooliganism: the State Takes the Offensive</title>
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		<title>By: KyleAusGooner</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/italian-hooliganism-the-state-takes-the-offensive/3552/comment-page-1/#comment-62648</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleAusGooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, I will never win this Writers comp. for my Subbuteo story!
Who can blame any one for not commenting on it, It does not sound great but it&#039;s pretty good reading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, I will never win this Writers comp. for my Subbuteo story!<br />
Who can blame any one for not commenting on it, It does not sound great but it&#8217;s pretty good reading</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Pantanella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Pantanella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve, I remember that Totti &quot;dead child hoax&quot; episode... it&#039;s just one of the many indications that club owners and players have to distance themselves from organized supporters, however hurtful it may be to their economy. No club wants less fans, however as a policy they should make it clear that if their supporters can&#039;t behave civilly, they are not welcome at the stadium, plain and simple.

Regarding security, the introduction of stewards has already had a very positive effect, as demonstrated by the Juve-Udinese episode. One can only hope that the future will get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve, I remember that Totti &#8220;dead child hoax&#8221; episode&#8230; it&#8217;s just one of the many indications that club owners and players have to distance themselves from organized supporters, however hurtful it may be to their economy. No club wants less fans, however as a policy they should make it clear that if their supporters can&#8217;t behave civilly, they are not welcome at the stadium, plain and simple.</p>
<p>Regarding security, the introduction of stewards has already had a very positive effect, as demonstrated by the Juve-Udinese episode. One can only hope that the future will get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Amoia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Amoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco:

A very interesting article and well done.

I would like to add something that no doubt you know, but might clarify the strange relationships between teams and their Ultras. Historically, the Ultras have had close ties to clubs and players. Much more than we may see in other countries. As you pointed out in item #2 (no more bulk ticket sales), the reforms are aimed to change this culture.

For example, a few years ago, Cristiano Lucarelli of Livorno rented 3 buses to transport ultras back home at his own expense. Paolo Di Canio was a Lazio ultra himself during his  youth. Many clubs actively fostered relationships with the &quot;Capo,&quot; or leader, of the Ultras at their respective teams.

You probably recall what happened in Rome a few years ago during the Roman derby. A Roma &quot;capo&quot; convinced Francesco Totti that a child was killed outside of the stadium. The game was suspended, and it was later discovered to be a hoax.

One of the problems that you noted is that teams do not own the stadia in Italy. The English security model should be copied because city police often do not want to clash with the rival factions. It was tragic that the death of Inspector Raciti created an urgency to enforce the Pisanu Laws, which were already on the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco:</p>
<p>A very interesting article and well done.</p>
<p>I would like to add something that no doubt you know, but might clarify the strange relationships between teams and their Ultras. Historically, the Ultras have had close ties to clubs and players. Much more than we may see in other countries. As you pointed out in item #2 (no more bulk ticket sales), the reforms are aimed to change this culture.</p>
<p>For example, a few years ago, Cristiano Lucarelli of Livorno rented 3 buses to transport ultras back home at his own expense. Paolo Di Canio was a Lazio ultra himself during his  youth. Many clubs actively fostered relationships with the &#8220;Capo,&#8221; or leader, of the Ultras at their respective teams.</p>
<p>You probably recall what happened in Rome a few years ago during the Roman derby. A Roma &#8220;capo&#8221; convinced Francesco Totti that a child was killed outside of the stadium. The game was suspended, and it was later discovered to be a hoax.</p>
<p>One of the problems that you noted is that teams do not own the stadia in Italy. The English security model should be copied because city police often do not want to clash with the rival factions. It was tragic that the death of Inspector Raciti created an urgency to enforce the Pisanu Laws, which were already on the books.</p>
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		<title>By: Games &#187; Italian Hooliganism: the State Takes the Offensive</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/italian-hooliganism-the-state-takes-the-offensive/3552/comment-page-1/#comment-62604</link>
		<dc:creator>Games &#187; Italian Hooliganism: the State Takes the Offensive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] T Kyle King &lt;info@dawgsports.com&gt; wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptThe second was that until recently, supervision of the supportersâ€™ sections during football games was not carried out by stewards (like in the Premiership) but rather by city police, which signficantly contributed in the state of &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] T Kyle King &amp;lt;info@dawgsports.com&amp;gt; wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptThe second was that until recently, supervision of the supportersâ€™ sections during football games was not carried out by stewards (like in the Premiership) but rather by city police, which signficantly contributed in the state of &#8230; [...]</p>
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