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		<title>By: sweetLew</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/how-do-you-define-success/7160/comment-page-1/#comment-87118</link>
		<dc:creator>sweetLew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success is defined by how one meets the goals set out at the beginning of the season. If Sunderland&#039;s goal was to survive and play in the PL again next season, then they have had a succesful season. If Liverpool&#039;s stated aim was to be champions, then they have failed.

As a Chelsea supporter, I think we have set ourselves up for failure the past few seasons by claiming that we are going for the &quot;quadruple&quot;, which seems to overtax the squad and leads to unnecessary frustration. Look at last year&#039;s Arsenal squad - they played the Carling Cup with their younger players, they stuck to that philosophy, came damn close to winning it, and gave those young players a boost of confidence that has carried over to this season.

If Chelsea&#039;s aim is to win each and every game they play, sooner or later our definition of success is going to be compromised. Same goes for ManU - no treble this year, so even if they go on and win both the PL aqnd the CL, it will still not be as definitive as the treble-winning season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success is defined by how one meets the goals set out at the beginning of the season. If Sunderland&#8217;s goal was to survive and play in the PL again next season, then they have had a succesful season. If Liverpool&#8217;s stated aim was to be champions, then they have failed.</p>
<p>As a Chelsea supporter, I think we have set ourselves up for failure the past few seasons by claiming that we are going for the &#8220;quadruple&#8221;, which seems to overtax the squad and leads to unnecessary frustration. Look at last year&#8217;s Arsenal squad &#8211; they played the Carling Cup with their younger players, they stuck to that philosophy, came damn close to winning it, and gave those young players a boost of confidence that has carried over to this season.</p>
<p>If Chelsea&#8217;s aim is to win each and every game they play, sooner or later our definition of success is going to be compromised. Same goes for ManU &#8211; no treble this year, so even if they go on and win both the PL aqnd the CL, it will still not be as definitive as the treble-winning season.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred - @ Portugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred - @ Portugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I kind of understand your point of view... I&#039;m only 17 but as far as I remember we had the same situation around here (true, Porto has won the league like 70% of the times, but I&#039;ll get to the point).

Every single year we have the same three teams everyone expects to run for the title, every single year we have the same teams running for that extra UEFA cup slot and, save from odd exceptions, you can safely place your neck on the line when betting at who is going to get relegated. The National Cup and the brand new League Cup provide, some times, surprises but that&#039;s rather rare.

I wouldn&#039;t rant too much if we had such a competitive league as Premiership. Truth is thar our defending champion re-won the leage at like 5 fixtures before the end of the season and from the 16 clubs in our top league only 5 have ever been champions in around 70 years of championship (and two of them only one the league once!)

This being said, and looking at how some middle table teams change their managers around here, would you rather have Tottenham, Newcastle and Man City have so many managers during a season that you couldn&#039;t name them all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I kind of understand your point of view&#8230; I&#8217;m only 17 but as far as I remember we had the same situation around here (true, Porto has won the league like 70% of the times, but I&#8217;ll get to the point).</p>
<p>Every single year we have the same three teams everyone expects to run for the title, every single year we have the same teams running for that extra UEFA cup slot and, save from odd exceptions, you can safely place your neck on the line when betting at who is going to get relegated. The National Cup and the brand new League Cup provide, some times, surprises but that&#8217;s rather rare.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t rant too much if we had such a competitive league as Premiership. Truth is thar our defending champion re-won the leage at like 5 fixtures before the end of the season and from the 16 clubs in our top league only 5 have ever been champions in around 70 years of championship (and two of them only one the league once!)</p>
<p>This being said, and looking at how some middle table teams change their managers around here, would you rather have Tottenham, Newcastle and Man City have so many managers during a season that you couldn&#8217;t name them all?</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah fair point Ahmed, they dropped off badly. 

Not so sure about whether you can call Arsenal&#039;s and Chelsea&#039;s seasons successes though. Arsenal exceeded expectations, sure, but when they were in a position of power, they crumbled badly. It may have been down to injuries, specifically the size of their squad not being able to cover them, but I still think that you can consider losing a 9-point lead a failure.

Chelsea have done ok so far, especially if you consider how bad things got under Mourinho. But it&#039;ll be a failure to the person it matters to: Roman. That said, they could still do the Double. They hopefully won&#039;t, but it would be foolish to rule them out.

Liverpool&#039;s season has been a disaster, no two ways about it. They were widely expected (and claiming) to challenge for the title, everyone knew THAT was their aim this season. The boardroom stuff might be to blame, but that&#039;s a part of the club and it failed.

I love rightresult! I wish they did the cups too. It shows we should really be pushing for technological assitance. Some clubs are really suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah fair point Ahmed, they dropped off badly. </p>
<p>Not so sure about whether you can call Arsenal&#8217;s and Chelsea&#8217;s seasons successes though. Arsenal exceeded expectations, sure, but when they were in a position of power, they crumbled badly. It may have been down to injuries, specifically the size of their squad not being able to cover them, but I still think that you can consider losing a 9-point lead a failure.</p>
<p>Chelsea have done ok so far, especially if you consider how bad things got under Mourinho. But it&#8217;ll be a failure to the person it matters to: Roman. That said, they could still do the Double. They hopefully won&#8217;t, but it would be foolish to rule them out.</p>
<p>Liverpool&#8217;s season has been a disaster, no two ways about it. They were widely expected (and claiming) to challenge for the title, everyone knew THAT was their aim this season. The boardroom stuff might be to blame, but that&#8217;s a part of the club and it failed.</p>
<p>I love rightresult! I wish they did the cups too. It shows we should really be pushing for technological assitance. Some clubs are really suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiralArchitect</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiralArchitect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess looking at the Right Result table i don&#039;t feel too bad. Here&#039;s hoping we can pull into 2nd place at least &amp; retain some pride this season.

Oh yeah...&amp; i hope Barca win the Champions League this season!!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess looking at the Right Result table i don&#8217;t feel too bad. Here&#8217;s hoping we can pull into 2nd place at least &amp; retain some pride this season.</p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;&amp; i hope Barca win the Champions League this season!!! <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael - that would be worth seeing, sure, but we could also track after the league cup win, and see how far back they&#039;ve slipped after winning and thus giving up for the rest of the season :)

Arsenal&#039;s season is already a success. So is Chelsea&#039;s, considering the problems they&#039;ve had at the top. Only United and Liverpool out of the top four still have something to prove.

Everton - probably a success, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://soccerlens.com/right-result/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;according to this table&lt;/a&gt; they should be preparing for Champions League next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael &#8211; that would be worth seeing, sure, but we could also track after the league cup win, and see how far back they&#8217;ve slipped after winning and thus giving up for the rest of the season <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Arsenal&#8217;s season is already a success. So is Chelsea&#8217;s, considering the problems they&#8217;ve had at the top. Only United and Liverpool out of the top four still have something to prove.</p>
<p>Everton &#8211; probably a success, but <a href="http://soccerlens.com/right-result/" rel="nofollow">according to this table</a> they should be preparing for Champions League next season.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point about whether tottenham&#039;s seaon has been successful. Overall, I&#039;d say no, but I&#039;d also be interested to see where they&#039;d be if the league had started with Ramos&#039; first game. I reckon they&#039;d be at least 8th, but I could be wrong.

I think that if they can hang on to the players they&#039;ve got, specifically Berbatov, get rid of the weak links and bring in a bit of quality, they&#039;ll at least be fighting for the UEFA cup next season. It&#039;s maybe too early to challenge for the title/Champiopns league in any meaningful way. But Ramos should be able to attract good foreigners, who usually cost a lot less than players from the PL, so if they can sell their excess to promotion teams/monied teams fighting for survival, they should be able to spend a bit and bring in some class.

This season will be a success if next season is a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point about whether tottenham&#8217;s seaon has been successful. Overall, I&#8217;d say no, but I&#8217;d also be interested to see where they&#8217;d be if the league had started with Ramos&#8217; first game. I reckon they&#8217;d be at least 8th, but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>I think that if they can hang on to the players they&#8217;ve got, specifically Berbatov, get rid of the weak links and bring in a bit of quality, they&#8217;ll at least be fighting for the UEFA cup next season. It&#8217;s maybe too early to challenge for the title/Champiopns league in any meaningful way. But Ramos should be able to attract good foreigners, who usually cost a lot less than players from the PL, so if they can sell their excess to promotion teams/monied teams fighting for survival, they should be able to spend a bit and bring in some class.</p>
<p>This season will be a success if next season is a success.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Spiral, couldn&#039;t resist it! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Spiral, couldn&#8217;t resist it! <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SpiralArchitect</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiralArchitect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch! There&#039;s just no letting up for Arsenal fans is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch! There&#8217;s just no letting up for Arsenal fans is there?</p>
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