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		<title>By: maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha-ha Argentina got creamed again!!! :D</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea you&#039;re worried how Heinze&#039;s behavior will reflect on a team that employed, and fans who worshipped a piece of crap like Roy Keane is hilarious.      
       Argentina, since the early 60&#039;s, always select a combination of divers and butchers. Why they would start a fight, despite all the &quot;true versions&quot; people have blown out their butts, is hard to understand; they should be used to losing games that count to Germany. The idea that one of your readers, &quot;Tom&quot;, thought &quot;...any kind of memorable playing disappeared...after Argentina lost...&quot; illustrates what arrogant (with little reason) prats Argentine fans are. The most memorable things his team did in &#039;06 were sucker-punching and kicking during the exchange of shirts, like a bunch of gutless girls, and wetting themselves during PK&#039;s. If you truly believe Klose KICKED Abbondanzieri, you should start watching another sport. I don&#039;t think either of them ever saw the other; Klose was just starting to try to head the ball when they collided. Abbondanzieri got there late, Klose was about two feet higher, and his knee caught the goalie. Check it again- don&#039;t know how you could think Klose was conscious of anything but the flight of the ball. One of the reasons the Germans &quot;didn&#039;t have what it took&quot; against Italy was that they didn&#039;t have Frings-suspended for reacting to the Argy animals. According to &quot;Tom&quot;  Germany &quot;....didn’t even have what it takes to beat Argentina, in my opinion, but somehow did....&quot;, and that &quot;....Italy definitely didn’t have what it takes to win the cup...&quot;. Well, mocoso, either your opinion isn&#039;t worth much, or God&#039;s part of the world-wide anti-Argentina conspiracy. Maybe God&#039;s mad because your fat, cokehead coach, Primadonna, linked God&#039;s name with a disgraceful act of cheating....
    Face it &quot;Tom&quot;, your team was cranked off because they blew the game, and then they blew the shootout. No chance for a &quot;hand of God&quot;- just you &amp; the Germans and PK&#039;s, and there was NO WAY you were going to beat that German team at penalties. Maybe this year (if Podalski shoots- his PK against Serbia was as lame as Cambiasso&#039;s), but not in 2006. Cambiasso blubbering his way back to midfield after Lehman stopped his cupcake of a shot, priceless. So, hey, why not jump the Germans after the game, right? Boo Hoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea you&#8217;re worried how Heinze&#8217;s behavior will reflect on a team that employed, and fans who worshipped a piece of crap like Roy Keane is hilarious.<br />
       Argentina, since the early 60&#8242;s, always select a combination of divers and butchers. Why they would start a fight, despite all the &#8220;true versions&#8221; people have blown out their butts, is hard to understand; they should be used to losing games that count to Germany. The idea that one of your readers, &#8220;Tom&#8221;, thought &#8220;&#8230;any kind of memorable playing disappeared&#8230;after Argentina lost&#8230;&#8221; illustrates what arrogant (with little reason) prats Argentine fans are. The most memorable things his team did in &#8217;06 were sucker-punching and kicking during the exchange of shirts, like a bunch of gutless girls, and wetting themselves during PK&#8217;s. If you truly believe Klose KICKED Abbondanzieri, you should start watching another sport. I don&#8217;t think either of them ever saw the other; Klose was just starting to try to head the ball when they collided. Abbondanzieri got there late, Klose was about two feet higher, and his knee caught the goalie. Check it again- don&#8217;t know how you could think Klose was conscious of anything but the flight of the ball. One of the reasons the Germans &#8220;didn&#8217;t have what it took&#8221; against Italy was that they didn&#8217;t have Frings-suspended for reacting to the Argy animals. According to &#8220;Tom&#8221;  Germany &#8220;&#8230;.didn’t even have what it takes to beat Argentina, in my opinion, but somehow did&#8230;.&#8221;, and that &#8220;&#8230;.Italy definitely didn’t have what it takes to win the cup&#8230;&#8221;. Well, mocoso, either your opinion isn&#8217;t worth much, or God&#8217;s part of the world-wide anti-Argentina conspiracy. Maybe God&#8217;s mad because your fat, cokehead coach, Primadonna, linked God&#8217;s name with a disgraceful act of cheating&#8230;.<br />
    Face it &#8220;Tom&#8221;, your team was cranked off because they blew the game, and then they blew the shootout. No chance for a &#8220;hand of God&#8221;- just you &amp; the Germans and PK&#8217;s, and there was NO WAY you were going to beat that German team at penalties. Maybe this year (if Podalski shoots- his PK against Serbia was as lame as Cambiasso&#8217;s), but not in 2006. Cambiasso blubbering his way back to midfield after Lehman stopped his cupcake of a shot, priceless. So, hey, why not jump the Germans after the game, right? Boo Hoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it surprising that no one even mentioned the reason why the Argentine team was extremely irritated. It all began way before the penalty shoot-out. Did Abbondanzieri (Arg GK) just get injured because he&#039;s dumb and fell? No. As you might remember, he had to be replaced since he had an unbearable pain in his side. This was right after a corner kick in which Miroslav Klose kicked him in the hip. There is footage of this, which will appear if you look some place other than BBC sports.
I am argentinean and I admit that we don&#039;t always know how to lose, but we rarely react because of that. Who would? No reasonable human would just go &quot;Oh, you beat me, so now I&#039;m gonna kick your ass&quot; Nevertheless, it will happen at the first sign of mockery from the winning side (there have been examples of this against Brazil, Copa America 2004, a player from Brazil&#039;s bench gets up and grabs his crotch and screams something in front of the Argentinean bench when Brazil scores the last-minute goal).
I&#039;m not saying Germany cheated, they won fair and square and that&#039;s beautiful for them, and if it kept poor scared and sorry Klinsman on the coach podium an extra 2 minutes I&#039;m glad for them too, but I really feel the whole match should be analyzed. Controversy aside, I think it shows 2 tremendously different playing styles: Argentina&#039;s more euphoria-oriented style, and Germany&#039;s calculating &quot;stay calm&quot; robot-like playing.
And by the way, since we&#039;re discussing suspensions or banning players from football, what about materazzi on the final game, since we all know he managed to get Zidane expelled with a racist remark?
For the record, I believe any kind of memorable playing disappeared from that world cup after Argentina lost, and you can be sure of it if you look at the previous games. Germany couldn&#039;t beat Italy because they didn&#039;t have what it takes. They didn&#039;t even have what it takes to beat Argentina, in my opinion, but somehow did. And Italy definitely didn&#039;t have what it takes to win the cup, they were just an average team in need but they played right the only matches that really mattered, and somehow also won it.  

P.S: The fact that you focus on Heinze&#039;s behaviour at a World Cup match, and wether that makes Man U look good or not is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe he will stop and think about the english team he plays for, while he&#039;s playing for his country on a MUCH more important level? Never mind the team he plays for, no team will come between an argentine player and his visceral playing at the World Cup. In Germany they find it strange that Demichelis would rather play with Argentina at Beijing instead of playing with Bayern Munich. Well of course he would rather do that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it surprising that no one even mentioned the reason why the Argentine team was extremely irritated. It all began way before the penalty shoot-out. Did Abbondanzieri (Arg GK) just get injured because he&#8217;s dumb and fell? No. As you might remember, he had to be replaced since he had an unbearable pain in his side. This was right after a corner kick in which Miroslav Klose kicked him in the hip. There is footage of this, which will appear if you look some place other than BBC sports.<br />
I am argentinean and I admit that we don&#8217;t always know how to lose, but we rarely react because of that. Who would? No reasonable human would just go &#8220;Oh, you beat me, so now I&#8217;m gonna kick your ass&#8221; Nevertheless, it will happen at the first sign of mockery from the winning side (there have been examples of this against Brazil, Copa America 2004, a player from Brazil&#8217;s bench gets up and grabs his crotch and screams something in front of the Argentinean bench when Brazil scores the last-minute goal).<br />
I&#8217;m not saying Germany cheated, they won fair and square and that&#8217;s beautiful for them, and if it kept poor scared and sorry Klinsman on the coach podium an extra 2 minutes I&#8217;m glad for them too, but I really feel the whole match should be analyzed. Controversy aside, I think it shows 2 tremendously different playing styles: Argentina&#8217;s more euphoria-oriented style, and Germany&#8217;s calculating &#8220;stay calm&#8221; robot-like playing.<br />
And by the way, since we&#8217;re discussing suspensions or banning players from football, what about materazzi on the final game, since we all know he managed to get Zidane expelled with a racist remark?<br />
For the record, I believe any kind of memorable playing disappeared from that world cup after Argentina lost, and you can be sure of it if you look at the previous games. Germany couldn&#8217;t beat Italy because they didn&#8217;t have what it takes. They didn&#8217;t even have what it takes to beat Argentina, in my opinion, but somehow did. And Italy definitely didn&#8217;t have what it takes to win the cup, they were just an average team in need but they played right the only matches that really mattered, and somehow also won it.  </p>
<p>P.S: The fact that you focus on Heinze&#8217;s behaviour at a World Cup match, and wether that makes Man U look good or not is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe he will stop and think about the english team he plays for, while he&#8217;s playing for his country on a MUCH more important level? Never mind the team he plays for, no team will come between an argentine player and his visceral playing at the World Cup. In Germany they find it strange that Demichelis would rather play with Argentina at Beijing instead of playing with Bayern Munich. Well of course he would rather do that!</p>
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		<title>By: ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>todavia me dan bronca los alemanes!teniamos que haber ganado nosootros ese partido,para mi todo fue arreglado,AGUANTE HEINZE Y ARGENTINA!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>todavia me dan bronca los alemanes!teniamos que haber ganado nosootros ese partido,para mi todo fue arreglado,AGUANTE HEINZE Y ARGENTINA!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmmm....when it comes to soccer...and every  other sport it&#039;s always the other teams faul...but seriously..it&#039;s surprising how u guys r makin abig deal out of that fight...it&#039;s not the first fight ever!!!...i think u guys are trying to blame the fight for your lost against Italy...which it has nothing to do with it...cuz it didn&#039;t depend on Frings to win the world-cup...seriously..thats what i&#039;m understanding of all this comments...and what the hell...why are you guysthalkin g trash about the argetinians that play in europe...seriously...they were pissed...like i&#039;m sure...Germany was when they lost against Italy...which i know...they didn&#039;t react like the argentinians did cuz its our  &quot;typical behavior of Argentines&quot; serioulsy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmm&#8230;.when it comes to soccer&#8230;and every  other sport it&#8217;s always the other teams faul&#8230;but seriously..it&#8217;s surprising how u guys r makin abig deal out of that fight&#8230;it&#8217;s not the first fight ever!!!&#8230;i think u guys are trying to blame the fight for your lost against Italy&#8230;which it has nothing to do with it&#8230;cuz it didn&#8217;t depend on Frings to win the world-cup&#8230;seriously..thats what i&#8217;m understanding of all this comments&#8230;and what the hell&#8230;why are you guysthalkin g trash about the argetinians that play in europe&#8230;seriously&#8230;they were pissed&#8230;like i&#8217;m sure&#8230;Germany was when they lost against Italy&#8230;which i know&#8230;they didn&#8217;t react like the argentinians did cuz its our  &#8220;typical behavior of Argentines&#8221; serioulsy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what really happend was that one of the German players went up to Heinz and told him to take himself and his gypsies back home.  Heinz&#039;s parents are German but he himself was born in Argentina. This is what started the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what really happend was that one of the German players went up to Heinz and told him to take himself and his gypsies back home.  Heinz&#8217;s parents are German but he himself was born in Argentina. This is what started the fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link to Cruz-Frings video added. See end of post.

http://www.zshare.net/download/cruz-vs-frings-h264-avi.html</description>
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		<title>By: Christian Ivanovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Ivanovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thugs should be eliminated from the footballing world. Some of the Argentinians behaved unpardonably. THat they are bad losers is not an excuse. They should be banned from soccer for the rest of their lives. And ban Frings too as there are proper channels to address the thuggery as displayed by Argentina. Soccer must take precedence and it will be for the good of the game that these players are sacrificed and the soccer world will be a better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thugs should be eliminated from the footballing world. Some of the Argentinians behaved unpardonably. THat they are bad losers is not an excuse. They should be banned from soccer for the rest of their lives. And ban Frings too as there are proper channels to address the thuggery as displayed by Argentina. Soccer must take precedence and it will be for the good of the game that these players are sacrificed and the soccer world will be a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That brawl is typical behavior of Argentines and Uruguayans. They are bad losers and in the case of Argentina they wanted to drag Germany into the melee hoping to crash their chances in the semifinals. Partly successful since Frings won&#039;t play, they argue that &quot;they are winners&quot; and are not used to lose (??) funny hu?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That brawl is typical behavior of Argentines and Uruguayans. They are bad losers and in the case of Argentina they wanted to drag Germany into the melee hoping to crash their chances in the semifinals. Partly successful since Frings won&#8217;t play, they argue that &#8220;they are winners&#8221; and are not used to lose (??) funny hu?.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frings got the worst out of it, he&#039;s suspended for the semifinals against Italy and fined 5000 euro.  Someone knows or has the footage of his &quot;punch against Julio Cruz&quot;.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060703/1/8izd.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=2148743
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/germany/5138652.stm

In minute 95 Cruz got a yellow card for fouling Frings hard.
This is something bad for Germany since he is central in the German midfield, but they can still play good with Borowski.
It is I think unfair, Argentina got what they wanted with their fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frings got the worst out of it, he&#8217;s suspended for the semifinals against Italy and fined 5000 euro.  Someone knows or has the footage of his &#8220;punch against Julio Cruz&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060703/1/8izd.html" rel="nofollow">http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060703/1/8izd.html</a><br />
<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=2148743" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=2148743</a><br />
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<p>In minute 95 Cruz got a yellow card for fouling Frings hard.<br />
This is something bad for Germany since he is central in the German midfield, but they can still play good with Borowski.<br />
It is I think unfair, Argentina got what they wanted with their fight.</p>
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