Comments on: German Football – The Good, the Bad and the Grafite http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/ Football News Fri, 25 May 2012 18:33:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Soffett B. I. http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-118845 Soffett B. I. Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:28:44 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-118845 btw i think its an offensive style of play in the BL and its too easy to say, that they have no defensive ability. the spanish football is said to be offensive as well and they also focus on the offense. And i think this kind of football is a lot more attractive than the defensive french and italian football but its my opinion btw i think its an offensive style of play in the BL and its too easy to say, that they have no defensive ability. the spanish football is said to be offensive as well and they also focus on the offense.

And i think this kind of football is a lot more attractive than the defensive french and italian football

but its my opinion

]]> By: Soffett B. I. http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-118844 Soffett B. I. Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:23:23 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-118844 @Hans bundesliga is not slow - at least not slower than italian, spanish and french football, the EPL might be a (little) bit faster (the error rate is high) i disagree and i watch a lot of BL football (what about ribery = world class) ;-) but you are right, not too many world class players but lots of promising and talented players ---------- the biggest problem is the bad TV contract (500 mil euro), they get less than the french teams @Hans

bundesliga is not slow – at least not slower than italian, spanish and french football, the EPL might be a (little) bit faster

(the error rate is high) i disagree and i watch a lot of BL football

(what about ribery = world class) ;-)

but you are right, not too many world class players but lots of promising and talented players

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the biggest problem is the bad TV contract (500 mil euro), they get less than the french teams

]]> By: hans http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-114777 hans Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:43:29 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-114777 the biggest advantage of the german bundelsiga is without a doubt the stadiums and the great atmosphere in there. this is surely the result of the low prices and therefore the result of the 50+1 rule. in germany the fans are the most important thing for a club. the boss respect that in a way which can not be found in england. most of them were already fans before they join the position of a manager or president. they know the responsibility that they have over the city and the history of the club. but more important the fans can vote in a meeting of members the board of directors. so if you want to stay in your position make sure the fans are happy. this might be one advantage of the 50+1 rule. on the other hand a lots of people are complaining about the level of playing football in those stadiums. it is not a coincidence that not even one german fottball club is able to win the champions leauge in the next years. not even bayern munich if you take a closer look on their squad. the bundeliga football is slow, the error rate is high and with diego an ribery there are only two players which deserve to be called worldclass. apparently you need lots of money to win the champions leauge. and you have to play against very good teams every week to be prepared for the european games. this is not possible in germany as long as the clubs doesn´t get more money from the TV or let foreign investors in the business. they have only these two options to rectify the situation unless the FIFA finds appropriate regulations for the enormous expenses of the english football clubs. the biggest advantage of the german bundelsiga is without a doubt the stadiums and the great atmosphere in there.
this is surely the result of the low prices and therefore the result of the 50+1 rule.
in germany the fans are the most important thing for a club. the boss respect that in a way which can not be found in england. most of them were already fans before they join the position of a manager or president.
they know the responsibility that they have over the city and the history of the club. but more important the fans can vote in a meeting of members the board of directors.

so if you want to stay in your position make sure the fans are happy.
this might be one advantage of the 50+1 rule.

on the other hand a lots of people are complaining about the level of playing football in those stadiums.
it is not a coincidence that not even one german fottball club is able to win the champions leauge in the next years. not even bayern munich if you take a closer look on their squad.

the bundeliga football is slow, the error rate is high and with diego an ribery there are only two players which deserve to be called worldclass.
apparently you need lots of money to win the champions leauge. and you have to play against very good teams every week to be prepared for the european games.

this is not possible in germany as long as the clubs doesn´t get more money from the TV or let foreign investors in the business.
they have only these two options to rectify the situation unless the FIFA finds appropriate regulations for the enormous expenses of the english football clubs.

]]> By: jonny http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-114747 jonny Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:24:12 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-114747 good blog, but i want to point out, that the "club" 1.fc nürnberg has won the championship 9 times, althoug it was only 1 time after the foundation of the bundesliga ;) It also has an fanclub from britain. good blog, but i want to point out, that the “club” 1.fc nürnberg has won the championship 9 times, althoug it was only 1 time after the foundation of the bundesliga ;) It also has an fanclub from britain.

]]> By: mike http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-114736 mike Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:48:16 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-114736 @Stephen Darwin: Very nice article. Without intending to be mean by the following, I just hope that your prediction of the future does not come true. I think, there's a good chance especially since the financial crisis, that one or more of the investor's clubs will totally break down (After all we've read about Abramovic's loss, Chelsea's got good cards for that), and be such an alarming and warning example, that all leagues around the world introduce a 50+1 rule. In conclusion there would be no need for the German and other leagues to open for investors as well, just to score in the CL or Euro-League. As soon as there's an international investors ban, scores will be even again. P.S.: Bayern Munich has not had a grip on the Bundesliga since it's establishment in 1963. They played in the regional league at that time. They advanced to the Bundesliga in 1965. @Stephen Darwin:
Very nice article. Without intending to be mean by the following, I just hope that your prediction of the future does not come true. I think, there’s a good chance especially since the financial crisis, that one or more of the investor’s clubs will totally break down (After all we’ve read about Abramovic’s loss, Chelsea’s got good cards for that), and be such an alarming and warning example, that all leagues around the world introduce a 50+1 rule. In conclusion there would be no need for the German and other leagues to open for investors as well, just to score in the CL or Euro-League. As soon as there’s an international investors ban, scores will be even again.

P.S.:
Bayern Munich has not had a grip on the Bundesliga since it’s establishment in 1963. They played in the regional league at that time. They advanced to the Bundesliga in 1965.

]]> By: Yomi Akinyemi http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-114660 Yomi Akinyemi Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:27:58 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-114660 In all honesty there are a lot of foreign players in the Bundesliga @ the top clubs. Lets take a look at this - half of Bayern's players are foreigners, same with Wolfsburg and Schalke. We all know Bayern are flushed with wicked cash while Schalke are sponsored by Gazprom who are almost as rich as God. WOlfsburg are endowed by the automobile industry. Also it's rather interesting to consider what is called "good football". Sure we all like entertaining football a la a 4-4 game or a 5-1 trashing. But if you watch a lot of Bundesliga, the defense is quite comical sometimes which variably leads to entertaining football. Look at Bayern who arguably have the best defenders in the league. Van buyten and Demicheles are been atrocious and Lucio hasn't been spectacular - and we're referring to the best team in Germany .. on paper. League leaders Wolfsburg arent much better in defense but have been blessed with goals from Dzeko and Grafite. The same case would be made for the Ligue 1. A lot of people think the reason the french league has few goals is due to its compact and organized defense. False. Neither is it due to its less than stellar attackers. The enigma that is Ligue 1's lack of goals is the way the teams are set up usually with 2 defensive midfielders - even relegation threatened teams that have to go out and win line up with 2 DM's. It's frustrating to watch this happen with every team - PSG (Makalele and Clement), LYon (Toulalan and Makoun), Marseille (M'bami and Cana).. u get the idea. In all honesty there are a lot of foreign players in the Bundesliga @ the top clubs. Lets take a look at this – half of Bayern’s players are foreigners, same with Wolfsburg and Schalke. We all know Bayern are flushed with wicked cash while Schalke are sponsored by Gazprom who are almost as rich as God. WOlfsburg are endowed by the automobile industry.

Also it’s rather interesting to consider what is called “good football”. Sure we all like entertaining football a la a 4-4 game or a 5-1 trashing. But if you watch a lot of Bundesliga, the defense is quite comical sometimes which variably leads to entertaining football. Look at Bayern who arguably have the best defenders in the league. Van buyten and Demicheles are been atrocious and Lucio hasn’t been spectacular – and we’re referring to the best team in Germany .. on paper. League leaders Wolfsburg arent much better in defense but have been blessed with goals from Dzeko and Grafite.

The same case would be made for the Ligue 1. A lot of people think the reason the french league has few goals is due to its compact and organized defense. False. Neither is it due to its less than stellar attackers. The enigma that is Ligue 1′s lack of goals is the way the teams are set up usually with 2 defensive midfielders – even relegation threatened teams that have to go out and win line up with 2 DM’s. It’s frustrating to watch this happen with every team – PSG (Makalele and Clement), LYon (Toulalan and Makoun), Marseille (M’bami and Cana).. u get the idea.

]]> By: Vincent http://soccerlens.com/german-football-the-good-the-bad-and-the-grafite/27580/#comment-114650 Vincent Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:19:45 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=27580#comment-114650 Whoah, stunning article - thumbs up! Whoah, stunning article – thumbs up!

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