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  1. Ahmed Bilal
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    Posted 2 years ago #

    SL contributor Conor send this in:

    Anelka, Tevez, Huntelaar, Berbatov, Gudjohnsen and there could be other players Sir Alex is looking at, but these are the strikers I am looking at in detail.

    Anelka - He's fast, scores a good amount of goals, relatively good at heading, fairly cheap and he has premiership experience. He was obviously a great buy for Arsenal, not so much for Real Madrid, and at Liverpool and Man City he wasn't spectacular(he was still Man City's main goalscorer) and I'm not sure about how good he was with Fenerbahce. Now he's back at Bolton and he had a pretty good season, scoring 11 goals is a fair return(especally since he didn't get his first goal until late November) and if he came to United he would be what most United fans are looking for, a fast player who can score goals but who can play with the team as well, not just poach goals in the box, he had a player who could do that, the very best.

    Tevez is probably the most high profile name on the list. He was known to be very good when he was playing in Brazil with Corinthians, and then we were finally able to watch him in the World Cup, or so we thought, he wasn't always a starter for Argentina(which is fair with the quality of their attacking players) and so I still wasn't sure how good he was, but on the days building up until the close of the summer transfer window in August I started to get excited about the prospect of one of Argentinas hottest young properties, and I was shocked(as im sure we all were) when he went to West Ham. From playing for West Ham we could see that he's fast, creative, and can score goals, plus he can take free kicks which United obviously need. He's played a season in the premiership so shouldn't need much time to adapt, and he would work well in our free-flowing football, but to judge a plyer on 10-15 games can lead us to the wrong conclusions, but in this case it seems Tevez would be a great signing, he would be expensive though.

    Huntelaar is a player I've known about since last summer when he scored something like 35 goals, but I remember him because he scored 15 goals for Herenveen(I think) and moved in the transfer window and continued to score freely. He would obviously be on the scoresheet regularly for us, he's fast and he's young. The fact that Van Basten rates him highly is also a good opinion to go by, but he might not be the player we need, I'm still not sure if we play better without playrs who stay in and around the box. But he's also not going to cost a massuve amount of money, if Man U wanted him, they would buy him.

    Berbatov is a player we are sure Sir Alex likes, he tried to buy him last summer and he proved he's good enough to play for any team in the premiership, he scores, he gets assists, he's tall and he's creative. He won't need much time to settle in and he could either form a good partenership with rooney or play up front on his own in 4-2-3-1, so he's ideal. The fact that Tottenham are guaranteed to make us pay ALOT is the one bad thing about buying him, as we seen last year they will force us to pay more than he's worth, and I'd say he's worth at least 15m so the signs aren't good. And Tottenham are a growing club, if they get into the Champions League next season(which is possible, depending on how Arsenal react to losing their best player) then he could stay for longer.

    Gudjohnsen has played in the premiership for a long time, he's experienced, he scores a fair amount of goals, and he's really creative. But in my opinion there are plenty of better strikers we could buy, he's slow, wouldn't score more than Saha or Rossi and he doesn't play well up front on his own, he needs a striker to play with, thats why he wasn't particularly great in the games he played for Barca.

    So who do you think would be best for Man Utd and then who do you think is most likely to come?

    I think Berbatov is the most compatible striker we could get but i think Anelka is the mst likely, if Sir Alex really wants him. Quagliarella seemed good, and if his agent just blatantly lied about us wanting him, it was a good plan because now I'm sure a lot of fans of the English game know who he is, I didn't before.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Anelka is not a solution... he's a problem... a big sulky problem
    Tevez's price is in inflation heaven
    Huntlaar... maybe... maybe, if the price is right, i wouldn't bend over backwards to get him tought, cuz didnt he say he want to move to Juve?
    Berba is not for sale... for the moment... next...
    Gudjohnsen, again, not a solution, too old, to slow + he's a Chelsea reject... and since when do we chase Chelsea rejects?!?!?!?!

    I'd add Defoe to that list, i think he might alright

    But hey guys we're not that desperate for a striker!! jeez!!

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    Anelka is not a solution... he's a problem... a big sulky problem
    Tevez's price is in inflation heaven
    Huntlaar... maybe... maybe, if the price is right, i wouldn't bend over backwards to get him tought, cuz didnt he say he want to move to Juve?
    Berba is not for sale... for the moment... next...
    Gudjohnsen, again, not a solution, too old, to slow + he's a Chelsea reject... and since when do we chase Chelsea rejects?!?!?!?!
    I'd add Defoe to that list, i think he might alright
    But hey guys we're not that desperate for a striker!! jeez!!

    You do, really. Saha's not good enough for United and I think you need more of a goal getter to compliment Rooney. All good players mentioned, but don't think you'd get Berbatov on the cheap and he seems quite happy at Tottenham anyway. Tevez is also likely to be rather expensive though there's the bonus that he's got his season of adaptation to the English league out of the way. And I don't think Gudjohnsen's the answer you're looking for.

    I'd say the more likely options would be Anelka or Huntelaar who could both do a job and would be rather good I reckon at United.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Saha's not good enough but Anderson will contribute with goals, Rossi will do the work of Smith and Ole combined and Rooney will be better.

    Personally I'd take Tevez, but barring that (and barring the fact that the ideal strikers - Ruud, Toni and Klose - aren't available), I'd go for Berbatov or Anelka.

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    I'd go for Berbatov or Anelka.

    Le Sulk? Really? Would you risk unsettling the squad for a few extra goals?
    And Berba is not for sale, lets act like we're a bit older than 3 years old and stop craving for candy cane if the candy shop is closed!!

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    :) That's why I said ideally, as in FM 07 or something :)

    We're fine now, unless we get Tevez.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    We need Tevez so that the other three of the Big four don't get them. But that would make us sound like Chelsea won't it? Damn!

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    Tevez would be a great signing, as would Berbatov, but Spurs won't let go of their star striker and Tevez is grossly overpriced. I pray god we don't buy Anelka. The guy is nothing but trouble, though he's a good striker.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    we got Rooney for that reason, didnt we?

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    eget Anelka, juve want to buy berbatov or huntelaar, tevez is overpriced, gudjohnsen is a horrible and slow striker that i thibk sucks, quagliarella is in udinese,and defoe???? spurs will never sell defoe...

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    The last i heard was SAF was lining up a season long loan move for Carlos Tevez on the fact that we still dont know who the real owner is. That would certainly be a good choice.

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    i agree getting tevez on loan would be great , but when he has the best season of his career due to playing with the world class players we have out on the pitch , what do you think is going to happen to his price? that is the whole reason he was sent to west ham in the first place , so the twat who owns him could put him out on show in the premiership and send his pricetag through the roof! we should buy him outright, no doubt about it, he is an absolute class player and has that fighting spirit that sir alex ferguson loves (as do all man u fans) . if need be then we can sell a few fringe players . i mean what the hell has silvestre done for the last 2 years? awnser= nothing, he hasnt even been a bench warmer. dont get me wrong he used to be class but those days are gone , ive heard sam allardyce likes him so let him have him for 3 mil. then theres smithy , and again hes a definate fan favourite but his first touch always lets him down and he has no skill what so ever , therefore is not good enough to fit into our fast flowing football, so keep hold of him for a couple more weeks and let the other teams fight it out until his pricetag goes up to about 8 mil. i think he will end up at everton for around about 8 mil and good luck to him. that just leaves ole (legend) and poxy fletcher who ive never liked from the start . we could get 1 mil for ole if were lucky and maybe 3 for fletcher , but who would want to buy them i dont know. so that would give us round about 12 million to put towards tevez so all wed have to do is add about another 10 and were sorted. i know its quite alot of money for him but there you go , prices are rediculous nowdays anyway and we have to get to tevex because he will become one of the best in the world! bring it on chelsea!

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    btw, with Arsenal signing Eduardo Da Silva, does that mean that United have their choice of who they want to buy now? Or will Wenger sign a second striker?

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    I doubt he will Ahmed. Four's enough forwards - Van Persie, Adebayor, Eduarado, Bendtner and there's the whole Carlos Vela situation who's supposed to be a good player but I'm not sure on the current story with his work permit. Last I heard, he'd got his VISA, though there was also talk that he wouldn't be back until January, which would be ideal because at that time Adebayor would be on his way to the African Nations, although thankfully that's a doubt anyway as that dispute over bonuses owed to the Togo players, spearheaded by Ade, is still raging.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    After his showing so far in Copa America, why aren't people talking more about Castillo? Played a blinder against Brazil.

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    Yeah, that Castillo is something Chris. He was able to dance through the Brazilian defense
    and that goal he scored was rather excellent too. A player I'm keeping my eye on and looking forward to seeing more of.

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    hey guys -- im an American new to the forum and a Man United fan. my thoughts on castillo since our NT has had to contend with him for a bit. the dude is a flat out sick talent. in the gold cup final this year against us he was a terror the entire game, and then that goal against brazil in the copa was just unreal.

    but im not sure he is quite ready to play for a club as big as United. he would be a risky buy, but probably a cheap one at that.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    He does seem to have an innate eye for goal though, combined with his overall running and control, he looks like quite the buy.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Haven't seen Castillo in action, anyone got a youtube link?

    Torres looks dead cert to go to Liverpool. Oh well...

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    from the players listed at the start i fink anelka would probly be the best and in my opion very similar to torres... but my first choice would be torres tho... second adriano... anelka...

    with castillo you'd have the problem of gettin a work permit...
    a last point could anyone tell me is thier a player
    out there sinilar too mark hughes .....?

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    I know this has been done and dusted a lot of times before, and a lot of posts on many fan sites are an evidence to this , but I thought lets discuss all the contenders/pretenders one more time.

    Let me first put down the qualities expected out of the striker we get, such that he fits seamlessly into the current flowing, attacking one-touch football that United are playing so effectively.

    1. Areal threat
    The team could greatly do with a fella who is a threat in the air, since neither rooney, ole or giggsy can provide that.

    2. Creativity
    United don't need another RVN, since having a poacher would stifle the flowing football they have started playing after his departure. The need is for someone creates chances for himself rather than feed on created ones.

    3. Consistency
    Since its United, we can be sure the selling club will charge much more than what it would charge if it were some other club it was dealing with. So, it must be made sure that the player has is consistent in his performance, and not some 5 minutes of fame guy.

    4. Unselfishness
    I am not saying being selfish is bad, just that too much of it is. United already has Ronaldo, and Nani is also supposed to be a guy who likes to carry the ball himself. So, the team doesn't need a 30 goal/season striker, but someone who scores around 15-20 and creates as many for others.

    5. Age
    The need is to make a long term buy, to build on the youth talent present in the team right now. A stiker in early or mid-20s would fit the bill perfectly.

    6. Discipline
    United need someone who is ready to adopt to Sir Alex's style of management, and not become bigger than the team a la Henry.

    7. Stability
    I feel Sir Alex also doesn't want to have someone like anelka, who in spite of being an outrageous talent could never capitalize on it due to fickleness of the mind and bad advice.

    8. Proven
    The player should not be from some Banana league, where scoring 60 goals in 30 games would still not mean anything, and should adapt well to the rigours of the EPL.

    9. Adaptability and fitness
    The EPL is considered to be the most toughest and physically demanding league in the world. So no nansy pansy please!

    10. Possibility of a shift to OT
    The player must be ready for an OT move (if he is not, to hell with him!), and the cost should not be prohibitive (I am assuming it to be a max. of 30 M pounds for a good stiker).

    Now, let me rate the probable strikers on these parameters. I consider here not only Fergi's potential targets (as rumored), but all the strikers who could fit the bill and have atleast some realistic chance of making it to OT this season.

    Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham Hotspur)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 2 in - 8/10; Creativity - 9/10; Consistency - 7/10; Unselfishness - 8/10; Age : 26 - 6/10; Discipline - 8/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 8/10; Adaptability - 9/10; Possibility : 27 M Pounds - 5/10; Total - 74/100.

    Eidur Gudjohnsen (Barcelona FC)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 1 in - 4/10; Creativity - 6/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 28 - 4/10; Discipline - 7/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 7/10; Adaptability - 8/10; Possibility : 10 M Pounds - 9/10; Total - 65/100.

    Carlos Tevez (West Ham United FC)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 7 in - 4/10; Creativity - 8/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 23 - 9/10; Discipline - 6/10; Stability - 6/10; Proven - 5/10; Adaptability - 8/10; Possibility : 22 M Pounds - 5/10; Total - 68/100.

    Nicolas Anelka (Bolton Wanderers)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 1 in - 4/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 4/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 28 - 4/10; Discipline - 3/10; Stability - 3/10; Proven - 6/10; Adaptability - 8/10; Possibility : 10 M Pounds - 9/10; Total - 55/100.

    Fernando Torres (Atletico Madrid)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 1 in - 9/10; Creativity - 9/10; Consistency - 7/10; Unselfishness - 8/10; Age : 23 - 9/10; Discipline - 8/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 8/10; Adaptability - 7/10; Possibility : 27 M Pounds , news of Liverpool swoop - 4/10; Total - 77/100.

    Obafemi Martins (Newcastle United)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 7 in - 5/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 6/10; Unselfishness - 6/10; Age : 22 - 9/10; Discipline - 6/10; Stability - 6/10; Proven - 7/10; Adaptability - 8/10; Possibility : 13 M Pounds - 7/10; Total - 67/100.

    Michael Owen (Newcastle United)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 8 in - 6/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 27 - 5/10; Discipline - 8/10; Stability - 7/10; Proven - 8/10; Adaptability - 5/10; Possibility : 9 M Pounds - 8/10; Total - 66/100.

    Fabio Quagliarella (Udinese/Sampdoria)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 11 in - 4/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 23 - 9/10; Discipline - 7/10; Stability - 7/10; Proven - 5/10; Adaptability - 6/10; Possibility : 15 M Pounds - 8/10; Total - 65/100.

    Giuseppe Rossi (Manchester United)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 8 in - 5/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 6/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 20 - 10/10; Discipline - 7/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 6/10; Adaptability - 6/10; Possibility : 27 M Pounds - 10/10; Total - 72/100.

    Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Ajax)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 0 in - 7/10; Creativity - 8/10; Consistency - 7/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 23 - 9/10; Discipline - 8/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 4/10; Adaptability - 4/10; Possibility : 12 M Pounds - 7/10; Total - 69/100.

    Afonso Alves (SC Heerenveen)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 1 in - 6/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 26 - 6/10; Discipline - 7/10; Stability - 7/10; Proven - 3/10; Adaptability - 4/10; Possibility : 9 M Pounds - 7/10; Total - 59/100.

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Inter Milan)
    Areal Threat : 6 ft 4 in - 8/10; Creativity - 8/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 6/10; Age : 25 - 7/10; Discipline - 5/10; Stability - 6/10; Proven - 7/10; Adaptability - 6/10; Possibility : 24 M Pounds - 5/10; Total - 63/100.

    David Villa (Valencia FC)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 9 in - 5/10; Creativity - 8/10; Consistency - 7/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 25 - 7/10; Discipline - 8/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 7/10; Adaptability - 4/10; Possibility : 35 M Pounds - 4/10; Total - 65/100.

    Javier Saviola (Barcelona FC)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 7 in - 5/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 6/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 25 - 7/10; Discipline - 8/10; Stability - 8/10; Proven - 7/10; Adaptability - 5/10; Possibility : 12 M Pounds - 7/10; Total - 67/100.

    Samuel Eto'o (Barcelona FC)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 11 in - 8/10; Creativity - 9/10; Consistency - 9/10; Unselfishness - 8/10; Age : 26 - 6/10; Discipline - 5/10; Stability - 7/10; Proven - 9/10; Adaptability - 8/10; Possibility : 45 M Pounds - 2/10; Total - 71/100.

    Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur)
    Areal Threat : 5 ft 7 in - 6/10; Creativity - 7/10; Consistency - 5/10; Unselfishness - 7/10; Age : 24 - 8/10; Discipline - 6/10; Stability - 6/10; Proven - 7/10; Adaptability - 8/10; Possibility : 12 M Pounds - 7/10; Total - 67/100.

    So, this leads us to the following ordering based on the points:

    77 - Fernando Torres
    72 - Giuseppe Rossi
    71 - Samuel Eto'o
    74 - Dimitar Berbatov
    69 - Klaas Jan Huntelaar
    68 - Carlos Tevez
    67 - Javier Saviola, Obafemi Martins, Jermain Defoe
    66 - Michael Owen
    65 - David Villa
    63 - Zlatan Ibrahimovic
    65 - Fabio Quagliarella, Eidur Gudjohnsen
    59 - Afonso Alves
    55 - Nicolas Anelka

    Torres can be ruled out as his move to Liverpool is almost complete, and Rossi was never for buying consideration, as United already have him. So thats leaves us with Eto'o, Berbatov, Huntelaar, Tevez and Javier Saviola as significant names, and I like the look of this.

    Though Eto'o would be very tough to get, if United do manage it, nothing like it!! Else United need to swoop in for Berbatov, as he will be the last pice of the jigsaw.

    Huntelaar maybe brought in next season as he himself has said he needs one more season before mvoing to a big club, and this suits United well too, since it can be seen if his form is a flash in pan, or he is here to stay.

    Saviola can be brought in if United get him for a bargain and if Saha and Ole are not going to recover soon enough and Sir Alex doesn't have enough faith in Rossi to believe he will start performing soon enough.

    United seem to be on the right path with the summer buyings and the type of football they are playing right now. If all goes right, bigger glory and more nights to remember awaits the team.

    Glory, Glory, Man Utd!!

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    He does seem to have an innate eye for goal though, combined with his overall running and control, he looks like quite the buy.

    totally agree on him having an eye of goal. but his wikipedia entry is now saying that he has signed with chelski. anybody know where that came from!?

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    I really wouldn't want someone new unless we let Smith/Ole go. If one of them goes I think signing Saviola on a free transfer would be perfect. Is a good player, scores goals and has quality to start. Would also bring something to the team off the bench if one of our strikers is misfiring.

    But pls pls give Rossi a chance first

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    tevez would be nice . .

    shreyas, i love all the effort you put into making that analysis of who we should buy. . maybe if there was a way for everyone to do that so that we would have a more consensous point total for each player as even you yourself would have to admit your point totals are based on subjective judgments

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Do United really need another Striker?

    As has been mentioned previously Anelka (and his two brothers) could upset team spirit
    Berbatov is quality, but not for sale
    Tevez...... to messy to sort out a deal and it would be very costly
    I'd love to see Torres change his mind and join us instead (mostly just to annoy the scousers!) .....but it ain't going to happen!

    I have to aggree with "shreyas" and "dash"......... Give Rossi a run in the side, if he can do it in seria A i'm sure he'll preform in the premiership.... i've been watching his progress in the youths and reserve team before he went out on loan to Newcastle and Parma and i liked what i saw of him.

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    obviously tevez is a great player, and it would be great to have him in our team, but i dont see the cash being available. my main wish this year is to see Rossi get the chance he has been waiting for, the lad is a natural goal scorer with an eye for a pass as well. not to mention his excellent close control, already adapted to the manchester weather and his high confidence after his spell at Parma.

    where ever he has been he has scored a hat full of goals (Newcastle doesnt count because he didnt play). prolific in the reserves, and a hit at Parma. it makes me laugh to see people saying we should buy Quagliarella based on his goal tally in serie A last year, when Rossi far outscored him despite playing only half a season, in the team that was bottom of the table when he joined. If he can play as well as he did in the Italian equivelent of Watford, just imagine him linking up with Rooney, Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    yep i agree most with shreyas points....i still think united need a striker tho.. need to get rid of saha a total waste of a 12million..injuries and to lead the line doesnt do it very well at all....need to give rossi a chance times i watched him play reminds me of raul he just needs games and will get 10+/ goals ... keep hold of smith because simply he is a devil chases the ball and gives his all when he gets the chance hes not gonna get u 20 goals but he makes that up with his team effort.. dong.... unknow quantity... have seen him last pre-season looked good then but needs to adptto the english game send him out on loan to either birmingham,sunderland,portsmouth..

    replacements..and like in 98/99' u need atleast 4 strikers cole,yorke,sheringham,solskjaer

    rooney = young enough/can use (rossi) for rooney to rest
    saha = ?
    solskjaer = dong
    smith = do we need to replace him

    what do you think?

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    I agree with joninjapan's statement about my rating post that the points total is subjective to my judgement. It would be nice to create a poll so we have a general consensus. If anyone can do it it will be great, else I will try to create one.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    from the players listed at the start i fink anelka would probly be the best and in my opion very similar to torres... but my first choice would be torres tho... second adriano... anelka...
    with castillo you'd have the problem of gettin a work permit...
    a last point could anyone tell me is thier a player
    out there sinilar too mark hughes .....?

    Apparently Castillo has a Greek Passport. Don't hold me to that.


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