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  1. RicardoQuaresma
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    Posted 4 months ago #

    Guys who among the clubs' officials has the most power/clout in how the players and team are run? The owners, presidents or managers?

    Let's examine this in 3 major clubs:

    1) FC Barcelona: The president is Joan Laporta and Guardiola the manager. How much influence and clout does Laporta have in the running of the club? His name keeps popping up in the proposed swap deal between Inter and barca for Eto'o and Ibra. So is it safe to say that Club presidents have the final say on who the club buys, and NOT the manager (who makes suggestions, but doesn't have the final say in transactions)? So is laporta the real man to credit for barca's massive success last season? He was the one who hired Rijkaard and Guardiola remember

    2) Real madrid: President Florentino Perez and manager Pellegrini. Perez is responsible for the formation of Galacticos 2.0 and hired Pellegrini. Is it safe to say that club presidents are the people most responsible for a club's success? The president paints the VISION and objectives for the club, and he HIRES the manager to see to it that those objectives and vision is met

    3) Chelsea: Owner: Roman Chairman/President: Bruce Buck Manager: Ancellotti
    Another different scenario: here the owner Roman has the most power and clout, NOT the President Buck (his name is Buck and he likes to ****) (who no-one ever hears about) or the manager Ancellotti

    I guess every club has a different administrative/power structure from each other

    Ibra's Abracadabra will help Barca win their second Treble, and Eto'o will revitalize Inter Milan!!
  2. thefourthwisemonkey
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    Posted 4 months ago #

    There are basic models which clubs are run;

    1) The continental Presidental model to which you correctly explained. They hire and fire coaches and sign players. The coach at these clubs like Barcelona run the first team, tactics wise but their role in transfers is minimal. Usually they will identify targets for the board or President to go after or at least a position where they would like strengthen. Although slightly different the Chelsea model is still an example of this in all but name.

    2) Popular in central Europe such as Germany is the Sporting director model. In this model the board appoints a Sporting director to handle all transfers and contracts and he works alongside the coach who controls the first team. Preferably the Sporting director and coach have a close relationship as to not step on each other's toes.

    3) The British "manager" model where the coach/ manager deals with the first team, transfers and in some cases contracts. The coach will be given control over how the club moves forward largely and is given more latitude than the other two roles.

    By and large nearly every club falls into one of these three catergories.

  3. RicardoQuaresma
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    Posted 4 months ago #

    Can anyone guess who the fella in my avatar is?

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    Posted 4 months ago #

    Joan Laporta 8)

    mufan's utter lack of knowledge of English makes his joke all the funnier. Haha!!
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    Posted 4 months ago #

    You aced that pop quiz, hot shot :)

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    Posted 4 months ago #

    It annoys me is when managers are over-ruled by billionaire CEO's in regards to transfers (i.e. the buying of Shevchenko). It can be detrimental to the team, the manager, and the player. If you have the money, fine, buy a football club if you wish. But don't act on knowledge you do not posses, that is why you hire a manager in the first place.

    Alas, this is the modern game.

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    Posted 2 months ago #

    And if fans want people to pump many millions into clubs why should they act surprised when they act as if they are their play things.


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