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  1. Ahmed Bilal
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    Posted 2 years ago #

    ...is Owen Hargreaves.

    or so Oli thinks over at United In Words.

    My view? He's got a valid point - Hargreaves is a signing for 'right now', while Nani and Anderson are buys for the future (although Anderson could play a big part by the end of the season).

    It's a good article, so have a read and let us know what you think here.

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    Hmmm im not too fond of Hargreaves, I know he is good at sunning around annoying the other teams flair players, and he can make great tackles to start us off on counter attacks, but thats all he can do, Roy Keane could do that, but he could pass, he could score, he could lift the team, I'm sure we could have found a better all round midfielder, but right now im happy to have him in our team and so far he is our best signing, if we buy a new striker that's likely to change.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Check this video out from redrants.com - a Hargreaves compilation.

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    Hmmm im not too fond of Hargreaves, I know he is good at sunning around annoying the other teams flair players, and he can make great tackles to start us off on counter attacks, but thats all he can do, Roy Keane could do that, but he could pass, he could score, he could lift the team, I'm sure we could have found a better all round midfielder, but right now im happy to have him in our team and so far he is our best signing, if we buy a new striker that's likely to change.

    Who though? I honestly can't think of a better defensive midfielder that we could have actually got. Sure, everyone would love Gatusso, but he ani't leaving Milan. Vieira is to old to bring into a developing team and burnt those bridges a long time ago. Who else is there?

    Also, the fact Hargreaves really wanted to come is a major influence on the deal - he has the desire to play for Man United, and that means a lot, he isn't coming purely for the paycheck.

    Have to say that i agree he is the best signing (or is until we get Eto'o..... ;-D) What we lacked in the big games last season (milan home and away, roma away, arsenal away, liverpool away) was a player to hammer into the opposition midfield and break their rythm up - our midfield was too passive, Hargreaves will get in amonst it, and he is a very good passer of the ball in that he will rarely give it away. Just what we needed. Will also, possibly, provide even more freedom to the attacking players in the team.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hmmmm impressive indded. certainly makes me a lot happier about signing him now:) Well i'll wait until next season before judging him then, but i still think if we sign a striker he'll be a better signing, because if we sign one he is most likely better than some of the ones we have already.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    The guy who said hargreaves cant pass the ball is talking shit. He obviously hasnt watched him play and has assumed that because he is a DM he cant pass. If anything, he can pass as well as the great Keane.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    No, he showed for England quite a few times he isn't that great a passer.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    No, he showed for England quite a few times he isn't that great a passer.

    More so england show no freaking movement or desire to keep available that he had no options to pass to.

    Watch what he has done for bayern when he has played - he is a very good passer of the ball, not in the scholes league of course, but still damn tidy. You don't become a main player in the midfield for one of the top european (read technically adept) sides around if you can't pass it.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    look whatever like, he has an average range of passes and he hasn't got great vision.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Rubbish.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Not Hargreaves, cbrown564's comment.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    lol - i think he's a decent passer, but that's not his strength, reading the attack, getting in, breaking it up and moving the counter along is his strength.

    Carrick - now that's a passer.

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    I think I agree on Hargreaves lacking "great" vision - but honestly, we've got the other players to do that. Does he have "vision" in reading the other team's passes? I would think he does, and if he can do that consistently, then he'll have done what we need him to do. Just by the way, saw Anderson play in the Copa against Chile, and he sure has that vision you're looking for. There was one very calmly threaded ball I particularly liked. Can't wait to see these three link up (and link up well).

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    Yeah i think we can all see Anderson does have great vision, and really does remind you of Ronaldinho, by the way he keeps hold of the ball by being surprsingly strong and the way he runs, and his outrageous eye for a pass. And I know that Crarick and scholes can do the passing for us, and he is purely defensively minded, which is fine and im sure he is exceptional at what he does, I'm just saying i would have liked a player with an all round game, like scholes if he was able to tackle, or hargreaves if he had scholes' vision, but with all our other forward players im sure we'll cope:) I still stand by my opinion of he's not a great passer though.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hargreaves actually has a decent passing ability. Not the killer pass that leads to great goal but what he does really well is to keep the ball moving in the midfield and makes very very few mistakes. Also he is quite decent at taking the ball out of the defense. With his tackling and intercepting abilities, I have no doubt ManU have signed one of the best DMs.

    Just don't expect another Keane :)

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    cbrown why the hell does he need out of this world vision when we have scholes carrick and anderson in our squad . fuck me the whole team cant be world class passers of the ball. hargreaves is world class at what he does and thats getting us posession of the ball early , before they reach our defence and then tidyly slotting someone in or giving the ball to someone like scholesy who can deliver that deadly pass

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    definetely OH. even if Tevez does come.

    Cue the Nani jokes...
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    Posted 2 years ago #

    In the here and now Hargreaves. I can see him being used less in the Premier League where there is less of a need for a destructive holding midfielder, but in European games he gives us a much needed option against the top teams. Some added steel to the midfield. I can see Ferguson using Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves all in the centre of midfield which should allow us to keep possession, dominate the midfield and control the game.

    In many of the Champions League matches notably Roma first leg and the Milan games I felt we did not really control the game and instead just benefited from the quality of our counter attacking and some brilliantly taken chances. This should be less of an issue.

    For the future Im thinking Anderson. Nani doesn't look like developing into a world beater and will probably end up as an inferior version of Ronaldo. Anderson will offer something we've never had before if he lives up to his potential: a flair player, creative, and strong in a Riquelme, Ronaldinho mould.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Anderson i'll say. though he gotta have a higher work rate.. i dislike seeing players strolling around the pich :P

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hargreaves for now, Anderson for later. Owen was really needed as they have been found wanting in the back without the defensive holding midfielder who could have made all the difference against AC Milan. His pace, tackling and intuitiveness will be vital. No he will never be Roy Keane but then again, there will only ever be one Roy Keane. Anderson has the raw potential to become a world class player like Kaka, Cris Ronaldo, Messi and Ronaldinho. He is just too young and lacking in the experience to make his mark now. I am concerned that his confidence will suffer if he doesn't get enough playing time this season with United. SAF must allow for him to steal some time from Scoles in order to get that feel for the English game as well as for his teammates. He could be a real treat.

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    ofcourse Owen Hargreaves! united need european experience, that is what Hargreaves capable of! where can u find any oversea's england player like Hargreaves ?

    united legend Dennis Irwin said: "He's got experience having played for Bayern Munich for seven years," he said. "And their determination to keep him just shows how valuable he was and how highly they regarded him. I think he's going to be a really good signing for us."

    and, Sir Alex has said that, although attackers Nani and Anderson will get plenty of games for the Reds next term, they are "for the future"!

    source: http://www.manutd.com

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    Posted 2 years ago #

    Undoubtedly Hargreaves. Anderson and Nani are two for the future, like when we bought Ronaldo and Rooney at a young age. Hargreaves gives us instant quality and attributes no one else in the squad can. We don't have a single ball-winner throughout the squad in central midfield. Honestly, seeing Gattuso hassle the hell out of Ronaldo at the San Siro, I wish we had a battler in our ranks too. Now we have him in Hargreaves and I think he'll be fantastic, irrespective of the price tag.

    My only question is whether Hargreaves will be deployed as a purely defensive midfielder (with most of the other midfielders given license to attack) or as a box-to-box sort of player (coz he's no Keano but can surely provide something going forward). Nonetheless, I'm glad he's finally arrived


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