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Man United's midfield is crap
76 posts - Started 5 months ago by Daniel Grigg - Latest reply from bobotonto -
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Posted 5 months ago #
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Posted 5 months ago #
Okay, first of all, we were beaten by the better team, second, the tactics were pretty poor to start with (and end with), It wasn't our day, NO-ONE performed except maybe Van der Sar, lastly ONE BAD GAME DOESN'T MAKE UNITED'S MIDFIELD SUDDENLY CRAP!!! Luckyspurs, how can Anderson suddenly be overrated when he was excellent against Arsenal and played well all season.
I've never seen Carricks passing to be so poor, every time it looked like the ball went about a yard ahead or behind the target player and the quick pitch was tricky I have to say but not THAT dodgey!
Barca were amazing, they sapped the energy out of United totally, the weather was a bit hot and humid making it hard for the players to keep up that closing down we did in the first 10mins.
I think that having Fletcher would have helped, but not enough I have to say to beat Barca, the tactic of going 4-4-2 was all wrong, we should have done exactly what we did to Arsenal in the Semis, just with Giggs deeper in midfield.
After the first half hour the manager should have taken Carrick or Giggs off for Scholes, his passes may have been more measured than Carricks.
Basically we tried to out Barca, barca and failed miserably, still I'd rather lose knowing we played totally crap by our standars than miss out narrowly, hope fully we can do what Bayern did after the 1999 season when they lost to us, win the Big ears next year
and this time Hargreaves will be back too.
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Posted 5 months ago #
michael carrick is a disaster at the highest level.his passing is not that good,he doesnt run,he cant tackle.hes just useless.and people call him instrumental for us.only in our downfalls
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Posted 5 months ago #
yo luckyspurs,
it just one fucking game and u made our stamtmetns sthat our midfields suck,
what are u thinking, ha, please, u can cannot make judge by one fucking game bitch,
our midfiled suck not all season but just this one game u shithead,Carrrick, i dont what is he doing today pass well
Anderson did well but i also dont know what is he doing today
park wTF, he cat even control the ball well
Ronaldo, did well for only 10 min then average
rooney still best run around but still lose to better team..
VDV good but still lose to better team
tevez dont know why sub for second half
vida did well but bad judgement in the 6 yard box notably of eto goal
ferdinad too shaky , wtf is he doing
others i dont to mentionso luckyspurs, we just lost to a better team understand , shithead, dont judge by one fucking game....omg, do u mama teach you???
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Posted 5 months ago #
anderson can actually pass well, omg , do u see him play beofore..modric is good too, i am impressed by him only after the boixing day. park is hardworking than lennon but the only problem i dont think he have the ability of a all-around european player which most asian does..ronaldo did well for only 10 minutes but then... i had nothing to say....about carrick, you are right, pass well sometimes but too inconsistent
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Posted 5 months ago #
i would rather have anderson than xabi beause i admit that he is yet still to learn, if we can mature him to the right time, then the price has paid off, as i want my players too have the right experience. he also have pace and was magnificent and u must remember, he is yet 20 or 21. about park, indeed he is a good player but i sense that he dosent have the ability of most british style of playing. park ji sung at the final match performance was awful, he cant even control and let it slip away. he is hardworking and a good player overall.
well, the better team won...
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Posted 5 months ago #
I accept we were didn't turn up on the night, Barca were the only ones who looked like winning it, but I just don't like it when a team which has achieved so much, is now "underrated" and "rubbish" they were good enough to win 3 league titles in a row, and win the CL and get to the final the next year. On the night the manager let us down and so the players let us down, but this is still a way more successful season than anyone else in England has had.
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Posted 5 months ago #
lucky i agree with you......since last year in UEFA Super Cup against Zenit when they were eaten alive i have been preaching about their overrated players....i tell you they are not as superior as they think.
Man U is a lucky team.....and thought they have some world class players...many others are overrated and when put to the test in big games fail miserably.
I remember at one time his season.....quintuple the quintuple is on!!!
Quintuple my arse...
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Posted 5 months ago #
Dun hav anything to say, all the MU fans here have said it...Congrats Barca...
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Posted 5 months ago #
well, i have nothing to say anymore, all i can said is the better team won... and about this rhian, WTF, he look shit when speaking this.....
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Posted 5 months ago #
Rhian can't help speaking shite, he's programmed to do that or something
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Posted 5 months ago #
Dunno how anyone can explain away 3 titles in a row, a champions league, a champions league final and a Carling cup in the last three seasons as being done by a shit team... meanwhile Chelsea, 1 champions league final an FA cup and a Carling cup final...
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Posted 5 months ago #
Hargreaves would definitely have been a help today, but his whole history is that of being a sick-note. Every team gets found out eventually. Ferguson never learned from the two hammerings we took from an already geriatric A.C. Milan midfield in '06 and '07. Carrick is essentially gutless. He has played especially well in Europe in ECC matches, where the refs tend to prevent him from being hacked as much as he is in the EPL. Unfortunately, for Carrick, however, the ref was not whistle-happy and let the teams play. Xavi put some hard crunchers in on him early and he bitched out for the rest of the match, getting rid of the ball as quickly as he could, or else telegraphing his intentions to Iniesta and Busquets so that they were able to pick his passes off. If Anderson wasn't able to counter Iniesta as he and Fletcher did last year, it's more because of Ferguson's decision to go mano a mano and not shut down with ten men behind the ball as Hidinck did so successfully with Chelsea and we did last year. This current team will never be as good as the '99 club unless an adequate replacement is found for Roy Keane. Well, Barcelona have the guy in Xaví and Chelsea beat us to Essien/Obi. For me, the best post-to-post midfielder available is Atletico Bilbao's Javíer Martínez, although he seems to be rousing Liverpool's interest more. The 23 year-old Wolfsburg midfielder Christian Gentner is also tall and a no-nonsense tackler who can hold onto the ball. Now, if only Ferguson can admit he screwed up with Berbatov early, rather than pridefully waiting for another year. Sell his yit arse back to Spurs NOW, even if it is at a loss.
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Posted 5 months ago #
i wonder if we moved for javi,but liverpool declared their interest without making a concrete move,would he try and hold out for a move to anfield?i think hes likely to get more opportunities here,unless alonso leaves,but liverpool is a big attraction for the spaniards with the spanish contingent.id pay whatever is neccessary to get him though,theres not much other options of similar quality
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Posted 5 months ago #
Hargreaves should have a full season next year without the tendonitis flaring up, he's had surgeries and a year to rest, he'll be awesom
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Posted 5 months ago #
We really should have done a Chelsea, Fergie can really get you pissed off sometimes...
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Posted 5 months ago #
Hargreaves never had one season at Bayern where he didn't miss at least one-third of their games. Look it up, Bob! That is not a gamble the club can afford to take. I'm siock of Ronaldo, bu tI'm really getting sick of bloggers blaming him for yesterday's debacle. It can only be laid at one person's door: Our beloved coach. I respect him totally, but we have to face facts.
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Posted 5 months ago #
Pretty good read there, Spurs fan. So how does that make Anderson crap? You can't mark Iniesta and Xavi in a zonal style, either. Ferguson's massive ego put him into a big dick contest with Pep, who was, of course, bound to sucker him into not playing like last year or Chelsea. Sucka!!!
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Posted 5 months ago #
What annoyes me is the way that Fergie was acting like he didn't have a care in the world before the final.. like winning it was a given, but as I said, lets hope we Do a Bayern Munich and win it next year
after all, you win some and lose some, its just the way things go sometimes... We've done this a few times this season, Liverpool at home and away, Arsenal away Its like the team think they will win without trying. I hope this shows them that they have to be on their game if they're to win things... which will hopefully bode well for next season.
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Posted 5 months ago #
well, as luckyspurs say is right, man utd come to much in the middle which allow puyol and slyinho to attack int he wing while henry and messi swithing flank non-stop really did confuse the man utd back 4. i think it is a honest mistake to put park in, he cant control the ball and let xavi take it too easily, anderson did well but only for passing not the defensive which united need. carrick did shit than all i can say,
as for bobmagee , thank for the tip of rhian, finally i can understand his shit
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Posted 5 months ago #
like i said b4, next year will be a transition period for us, the GK, RB, CM. it is crucial how we get this period over and fast.
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Posted 5 months ago #
I'll say this, at some times during the match I got so angry at our midfield when they were not pushing forwards into the empty spaces to atleast draw players to themselves so that others would get some space, that I got the impression that Utd was AFRAID of Barcelona. I hate myself for saying it. But there was no conviction and no hunger. I agree with Bobmagee that we might've thought that a victory was a given. We were afraid to press forward and instead always looked for a long, killer ball.
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Posted 5 months ago #
I think your spot on AhmedShah, It looked like the game was won for Barca before it even got started! None of our players were willing to tackle Messi or Iniesta, and even Eto for that first killer goal, but all I can say is that we win some and lose some, hopefully this will make the team get up for it a bit more next year and avoid that crappy start we seem to have and to be honest guys, this year we have played pretty crap and if you think about it, so it ain't ben such a bad "hangover" season trophy wise. I think Gibson will be given more starts as he will probably be the one to replace Scholes, RB I hope will be We Brown with Rafael as an attacking option GET RID OF NEVILLE! and GK SHOULD be Foster but looking at him, he isn't too sharp with crosses because of is height but VDS might continue another season... so Foster might end up leaving or, better for us, going out on loan.
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Posted 5 months ago #
Oh yeah, I also think that the chopping and changing of the team this season has not been good for the players, they seemed to lack a good understanding and that was evident in the final, with things like Rooney playing Evra in for a run when Evra didn't go on a run etc...
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Posted 5 months ago #
if gibson starts more games then we will be well and truly massacred by any decent midfield we come up against.hes a poor mans carrick,and is a million miles away from being good enough to EVER play for us
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Posted 5 months ago #
So, if Gibson is a poor man's Carrick, and Carrick is definitely a poor man's Pirlo... There's a LOT riding on tPossebon and this Adam Ljajic kid when he arrives.
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Posted 5 months ago #
Well, Gibson aint THAT bad is he? he's been played on the right a few times, which makes him look crap cos his proper position is CM, Possebon is a very good midfielder and he should make some more appearances, I guess Gibson could end up like Chris Eagles if you're right Duffman...
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Posted 5 months ago #
Gibson has all the tools, but he's slow both physically and mentally. Have any of you guys noticed how pumped up Eagles got? He was like a whippet with us, somebody should have sent him to the weight room earlier.
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Posted 5 months ago #
I sure hope we get a decent amount for Nani. Perhaps we can flog him back to Sporting in part-exchange for Simon Vukovich or Miguel Veloso? Valencia is definitely not worth that kind of dosh. He's not a scorer, although he can do what SWP, Downing, Lennon and Bentley can't do consistently: Cross the ball accurately! For that kind of money United could buy Angel DiMaria of Benfica, Bruno Pereirinha of Sporting Lisbon AND Adam Johnson, all of whom have much more moxy than any of the aforementioned alternatives.
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Posted 5 months ago #
Lee Martin is a pacey winger, If he learns to cross and track back well, we should give him a shot
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