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Man City, stolen game
75 posts - Started 2 months ago by Liversea - Latest reply from manutdfan -
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Posted 2 months ago #
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Posted 2 months ago #
Don't care, United won.
Besides, Giggs was not human today.
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Posted 2 months ago #
Fuck, that's real! That's there! A goal scored in 95:33 when the match was supposed to end at 94:00! What the fuck?
Atkinson should be fined and removed from football, forever.
Well...maybe not that, but City have a right to appeal.
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Posted 2 months ago #
I agree it was pretty bulls*t to city, but that's football, you cant just stop playing because you think the game should be over... City should blame themselves Owen was left wide open
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Posted 2 months ago #
The best Manchester derby I have ever seen......just WOW...what a match...what a roller coaster of emotions......remarkable! I wouldnt be surprised if someone got a heartattack during the match...
YNWA=You'll Never Walk Alone=You'll Never Win Anything -
Posted 2 months ago #
We deserved to win without a doubt, we missed so many chances that it was obscene and all our mistakes were punished with goals.
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Posted 2 months ago #
Everyone has their turn with bad luck and it would of been ours had we not actually got the three points we deserved in a classic derby match.
Just thought I'd mention Darren Fletcher again as well, he's becoming an increasingly central figure in the team.
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Posted 2 months ago #
Fletcher is a better striker than berba, judging by the chances missed
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Posted 2 months ago #
Rishard - 1 hour ago »
Everyone has their turn with bad luck and it would of been ours had we not actually got the three points we deserved in a classic derby match.
Just thought I'd mention Darren Fletcher again as well, he's becoming an increasingly central figure in the team.Ehh...I believe that Manchester United were probably the luckiest team you'll see for a while...I mean, scoring the winner after the game is over! How lucky can you get?
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Posted 2 months ago #
Great punch from Bellamy while the Stewards were holding on to the silly bugger! He forgot his nine-iron! Maybe some of you United haters chose to ignore the minute plus City spent celebrating after scoring the equalizer! Best thing to come out of today--aside from Giggsy turning back the clock--was that the Gaffer saw, once and for all, that Berbatov will never make a true Manchester United player, that Foster, like Tim Howard before him, caves under pressure, and that Rio still smokes way too much reefer!
I STILL MISS NOBBY & BOBBY!!! -
Posted 2 months ago #
Haters are haters, they cant seem to get over their jealousy oh well. I saw the game and Match of the day after it when it revealed how the added time was justified, the substitution of Carrick for Anderson was a factor too along with the Bellamy celebration which was a minute and the delay for the free kick. Must we explain ourselves for every decision just to prove you feeble minded ones wrong?
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Posted 2 months ago #
What's funny is how if it were City to have scored the winner in the 96th, then all you would be over here ranting about how pathetic the referees are and how City just paid them off. You would, don't deny it.
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Posted 2 months ago #
As a neutral I really enjoyed yesterdays game: however as a football and England fan, I'm increasingly aware, that Rio Ferdinand is rapidly becoming a liability; whoever he plays for!
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Posted 2 months ago #
I would rather the game end like how American Football does. Even if the time is up, you need to put the ball out of play to officially end the game.
Ferdy and Foster are the 2 clowns. it would have been a safe game if not for those 2.
Given is a mutant, saving 2 free headers from Berba and a point blank shot from Giggs. Citeh's defence suk, Lescott is absolutely crap.
manutdsg.com -
Posted 2 months ago #
Yeah, Hamburg! How much dosh did Shitty pay for Lescott and his peanut-shaped head? Davie Moyes must have been giggling like a hyena in front of his telly yesterday.
Liver, you need to get out your book of excuses now and start thinking them up. You know. like... "If it wasn't for the African Cup of Nations..." or "If only Ancelotti could speak better English" or "J.T.s back gave out again."
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Posted 2 months ago #
well if someone had scored against arsenal in the last min i'd be going crazy but since it happened to man city i say FAIR play!!! game was awesome and i believe man united deserved it because fletcher made toure look like he was 4 foot tall and if now for given it couldve been 7-3 so scored in the 96th minute or not man united deserved it...
"The pressure isn't being first... its being second and third chasing me!!!"
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Posted 2 months ago #
Thank you ricardo, someone who can see the bigger picture. That's 3 teams who's 100% records we've ended, looks like the last one is Chelski and if we play anything like we did against them in the community shield we can beat them even at the Bridge.
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Posted 2 months ago #
Giggs rolled back the years, i thought he was not going playing on the left wing again, let alone up against Richards. He simply walked pasted players like they were not there. His assist for Fletcher's and Owen's goal is priceless.
Owen had 1 shot and he took really well. The next SuperSub!!!
I am quite surprise that Bellamy, despite our errors, was able to get 2 goals from a depleted midfield and defence.
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Posted 2 months ago #
Great game and great advert for the EPL.
Firstly the owen goal, 4 minutes of added time is a MINIMUM, not a maximum so there should be at least 4 minutes added not blowing the whistle bang on 4 minutes. From when City scored to the restart of the match was 55 seconds, thats us almost at 5 minutes now, plus Carrick came on for Anderson so there is another 30 seconds so the game should of lasted at least 95 minutes and 25 seconds. And everyone keeps going on how its Utd who benefited, City could of easily scored a winner themselves in the added time especially with the errors on display from Utd's defence. Where was the defending on Owen, City obviously thought they had done enough to sneak a draw and switched off so serves them right.Delighted for Owen to grab a goal like that, must be a huge huge weight lifted off his shoulders, a couple more goals and he's signing of the season on a freeby!!!
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Posted 2 months ago #
3 points:
Amazing game, one of the best I've seen in terms of drama and excitement
As pointed out previously: 4 minutes shown, followed by the Bellamy goal at 90 with a 55 second celebration, followed by a sub which is a 30 second addition. Sum it up, 5 minutes 25 seconds. Owen's goal came at... 5 minutes 25 seconds. Poignant, if you ask me.
And lastly, complaining about extra time is a very, very poor excuse. Unlike complaining about a bad offside or penalty call, EITHER TEAM CAN BENEFIT from additional time. So there were 6 minutes of added time, and considering man city had just scored, they could have easily taken that momentum and kept pressure on United. Instead, United had more heart, played the better game (barring some individual errors) and won.
Stop whining.
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Posted 2 months ago #
yes losing the game definatley means you will winif we play anything like we did against them in the community shield we can beat them even at the Bridge.
"We win as a team, lose as a team and celebrate as a team."
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Posted 2 months ago #
kenoZ13 - 7 hours ago »
3 points:
Amazing game, one of the best I've seen in terms of drama and excitement
As pointed out previously: 4 minutes shown, followed by the Bellamy goal at 90 with a 55 second celebration, followed by a sub which is a 30 second addition. Sum it up, 5 minutes 25 seconds. Owen's goal came at... 5 minutes 25 seconds. Poignant, if you ask me.
And lastly, complaining about extra time is a very, very poor excuse. Unlike complaining about a bad offside or penalty call, EITHER TEAM CAN BENEFIT from additional time. So there were 6 minutes of added time, and considering man city had just scored, they could have easily taken that momentum and kept pressure on United. Instead, United had more heart, played the better game (barring some individual errors) and won.
Stop whining.Alright. So let's tear the ManU fans' arguments apart;
The fourth official held up his sign with 4 minutes of added time AFTER Bellamy scored his 2nd. Therefore he was taking the amount of time in the celebration and adding it to whatever he had had before, giving him 4 minutes WITH BELLAMY'S GOAL. So you don't just add the minute-long celebration to 4 minutes, it had ALREADY BEEN ADDED. Other than that, there was a 30 second break for the substitution. That gives us, let'
s see...94:30? Not close to 95:25 in my book. -
Posted 2 months ago #
That 4:00 sign was held up by Willey as Shitty began their celebration. How can you know when the ref set off his other stop-watch? That would make you God-like, wouldn't it? If you are going to put the bitch on the ref, you might whinge because he was paying attention to Ferguson while he was working up to bringing on Carrick instead of paying attention to the match and his linesmen.
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Posted 2 months ago #
I'm pretty sure it was as they were ending their celebration. But, you know, time is subjective...
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Posted 2 months ago #
Liversea, thank you for tearing my arguments apart....by not tearing my arguments apart.
You addressed one of my arguments, using as bobotonto said, a curious ability to know that the ref included the celebration time in the initial 4 minutes. However, Bellamy scored at 89:55, and the ref has to communicate the amount of time to be added BEFORE 90 minutes. The ref can't know how much time to put on before the celebration is over, can he?
Also, there were (not including Bellamy's second goal) 3 goals and 4 substitutions in the second half. 30 seconds per sub, and about 30 seconds for each goal celebration (i dont know if there is a standard alotted time, let me know if there is), with injury time for players going down, puts the extra time without bellamy's goal to about 4 minutes. I'll do some math for you: 30 x (3 + 4) = 210 = 3 minutes 30 seconds. Remember, 30 seconds per goal is conservative, considering Bellamy took 55. Now add injury time...we'll estimate 30 seconds. What do you get? 4.
But what of my second argument? I made two, which you quoted, then proclaimed to disprove. You did not even address the issue that either team can score in extra time, and that it gives no advantage to either team when a game is tied.
Please respond, I am curious.
Oh and by the way, this is how you "tear apart someone's argument"
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Posted 2 months ago #
after watching the match again, I feel Berbatov either need to know where to place his headers away from the keeper's reach or add more power to his headers. He could have gotten a hattrick.
Barry cannot handle such matches and the midfield and defence aint helping him. True enough, his defensive shield of the back 4 was gone in the 2nd half.
I got it, Wright-Phillips is not as good as Lennon or even Walcott, he did not even trouble Evra at any cost.
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Posted 2 months ago #
So many people calling this a great match. A thriller? Yes! But, great football? No way. As Alan Hansen says: It should have been 10-0 for United. A comedy of errors more like, especially that gutless Bellamy. After having a career dream day, what does this repeat loser do? He sucker-punches some lunatic fan being held fast by two security men. The greatest Derby ever? No way. The matches in 67-68, 68-69: That was FOOTBALL!!!
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Posted 2 months ago #
XerxesK - 16 hours ago »
if we play anything like we did against them in the community shield we can beat them even at the Bridge.
yes losing the game definatley means you will win
Yes... on penalties... when Chelsea got two flueky goals, one of which never should have stood... we out played you, you got lucky
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Posted 2 months ago #
sure mate, whatever.
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Posted 2 months ago #
kenoZ13 - 23 hours ago »
Liversea, thank you for tearing my arguments apart....by not tearing my arguments apart.
You addressed one of my arguments, using as bobotonto said, a curious ability to know that the ref included the celebration time in the initial 4 minutes. However, Bellamy scored at 89:55, and the ref has to communicate the amount of time to be added BEFORE 90 minutes. The ref can't know how much time to put on before the celebration is over, can he?
Also, there were (not including Bellamy's second goal) 3 goals and 4 substitutions in the second half. 30 seconds per sub, and about 30 seconds for each goal celebration (i dont know if there is a standard alotted time, let me know if there is), with injury time for players going down, puts the extra time without bellamy's goal to about 4 minutes. I'll do some math for you: 30 x (3 + 4) = 210 = 3 minutes 30 seconds. Remember, 30 seconds per goal is conservative, considering Bellamy took 55. Now add injury time...we'll estimate 30 seconds. What do you get? 4.
But what of my second argument? I made two, which you quoted, then proclaimed to disprove. You did not even address the issue that either team can score in extra time, and that it gives no advantage to either team when a game is tied.
Please respond, I am curious.
Oh and by the way, this is how you "tear apart someone's argument"I wasn't necessarily tearing your arguments apart, just the overall sentiment of the entire Utd camp. I only used yours as a quote because it was the first one I saw.
As for the 2nd argument, if you want me to attack it -- what about bad refs? That could go either way, too, yet it always seems to be a focal point of debate
Also, note how I said <<Man Utd fans'>>, implying multiple fans, and not <<Man Utd fan's>> which would imply only you
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