i would like to know how people think man utd will set up next season. with all these class players in our team how are we going to squeeze them all in? our back 4 and keeper is pretty much sorted . but what about the middle of the park? hargreaves, scholes, carrick,anderson,nani,ronaldo,rooney,saha,and hopefully tevez? i would love to hear your comments!
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how will man utd set out next season?





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Posted 2 years ago #
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Posted 2 years ago #
shit i just realsied i forget the legend that is giggys! lol ill never forgive myself
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Posted 2 years ago #
4-2-3-1
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Posted 2 years ago #
yeah well which players playing where?
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Posted 2 years ago #
i think we wont see much difference from last year to be honest, at least at the start. carrick and hargreaves will interchange, nani and anderson will start the majority of the start of the season making substitute appearances.
saha - rooney
giggs - carrick/hargreaves - scholes - ronaldo
evra - rio - vidic - neville
VDS
then anderson, rossi, nani, pique and evans will be used as cover and as subs.
i just dont think ferguson will want to gamble too much with a championship winning side!
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Posted 2 years ago #
Unfortunately I see Fergie playing Rooney alone up fron with suppport from either Giggs or Andreson:
-------VDS/Foster
Neville Rio Vidic Evra
Ronaldo Carrick/Owen Nani
--------Scholes---------Andreson/Giggs
----RooneyThis if they have a full squad and if they dnt buy a striker. But i just dont see Saha staying in the first team, while Andreson seems to be very much like Diego for Werder.
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Posted 2 years ago #
For those that read my post thats what I still believe. The formation, i think, will be a 4-2-3-1. We played this formation for most of the season but it was most noticeable in the 7-1 thrashing of Roma.
Where rooney plays depends on whether we buy an out and out striker - like a Huntelaar, Berbatov etc. When Saha is fit, expect him to lead the line as well as he did in the first half of the season. Otherwise, I expect Rooney to play up top
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Posted 2 years ago #
4-4-2
VDS / Foster
Neville / Brown, Rio, Vida, Heinze
Ronaldo, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs
Saha, RooneySwap Hargreaves with one of the middle two, Nani & Anderson with the wingers, Anderson and Rossi with the strikers.
No, no place for Evra in my team. I'd rather blood Evans in that position.
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Posted 2 years ago #
I would say 4-4-2 in premiership and 4-2-3-1 in Europe ...
a detailed analysis is here http://sriyansa.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/manchester-united-the-next-season/
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With Sir Alex’s summer spending all but done it is time now to speculate how (formations/personnel) will turn up in the coming season. Apart from the summer arrivals (Hargreaves, Nani and Anderson) the other players I see getting into the first team squad are Rossi, Foster and Pique. Evans after his productive stay in Sunderland, he might be a possible entry but I see him being loaned out again to a first division side either in England or elsewhere. There might be some outbound traffic too: O’Shea, Saha, Smith, Fletcher, Richardson, Heinze, Silvestre have all been linked to one club or the other. My guess is that we will let go Richardson (with Eagles coming up the ranks), Bardsley and one of Fletcher/O’Shea/Heinze/Silvestre. Heinze for one has been strongly linked to certain top clubs but unless he wants to go I don’t see him departing. There are still rumors about one more striker (Anelka/Huntelaar/Torres) coming in and you never say never in football but for practical purposes the squad is now settled.Primary Squad
Goalkeepers: Edwin Van Der Sar, Ben Foster, Tomas Kuscack
Defenders: Gary Neville, Wes Brown, Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Gerard Pique, Gabriel Heinze (??), Mikael Silvestre (??), Patrice Evra
Midfielders: Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves, Darren Fletcher (??), John O’Shea (??), Christiano Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson, Park Ji-Sung
Forwards: Wayne Rooney, Guiseppe Rossi, Alan Smith, Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer, Louis Saha
Formations
As in this season, I think SAF will work with the 4-4-2 or the 4-2-3-1 formations primarily. I see the later being utilized primarily in European competitions where retention of the ball is important in all areas of the pitch. Wide men in both formations will be switching flanks giving greater mobility to the side.
4-4-2
(Van Der Sar/Foster)
(Neville/Brown) (Ferdinand/Vidic/Pique/Brown/Heinze/Silvestre) (Heinze/Evra/Silvestre)
(Ronaldo/Nani/Park) (Carrick/Hargreaves/Fletcher/Scholes) (Giggs/Ronaldo/Anderson)
(Rooney/Rossi) (Smith/Saha/Ole)
4-2-3-1
(Van Der Sar/Foster)
(Neville/Brown) (Ferdinand/Vidic/Pique/Brown/Heinze/Silvestre) (Heinze/Evra/Silvestre)
(Hargreaves/Fletcher) (Scholes/Carrick)
(Ronaldo/Nani/Park) (Rooney/Anderson/Giggs) (Giggs/Ronaldo/Anderson)
(Rooney/Saha/Rossi)
Key DecisionsThe key decisions for SAF would not be the formations but the personnel employed primarily because certain players would not see themselves as mere squad players. I see 4 key areas:
1. Foster or Van Der Saar: Foster has had a outstanding season on loan. And Van Der Saar definitely looked slippery towards the later part in the season. Is Van Der Saar still the number one or is Foster capable enough to take over?
2. Anderson & Nani: Both of the new players were first team members in their old clubs. While they might have to still learn lots and adapt to the Premiership, they would not be content in sitting on the bench most of the time. Where and how to bring them in will decide how effective they are.
3. Giggs & Scholes: When to play them and when to rest them? If Nani and Anderson gel well with the team, does the superior experience of these guys merit them a place in the team. All the while considering that they probably don’t have the legs to play all matches in the entire season.
4. Hit-man: Rooney needs space to operate and is not an ideal hit man. How reliable is Saha? Or is Rossi capable enough to endure the physical nature of the Premiership?
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Posted 2 years ago #
you people are not awnsering my question though. i want you to stick your necks out and give me your first choice 11. all youve done is list players in the squad which i already know. let me show you.......
gk-van der sar
rb-g.neville
lb-heinze
cd-vidic and ferdiand
lm-nani
rm-ronaldo
cm-hagreaves and carrick
and here in is where it gets difficult, rooney is at his sublime best when he plays in the hole, he is not an out and out striker but neither is anderson, and then theres sahe who is but you cant leave rooney or anderson out of the team . so i really cannot decide who i would pick. -
Posted 2 years ago #
1st choice:
van der saar
g. neville vidic ferdinand evra
carrick hargreaves
giggs scholes ronaldo
rooney
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Posted 2 years ago #
I don't see a starting place for any of our new signings...
Again agree with Dash on the players - not so much on the formation. Saha (or some other striker) will partner Rooney in a 4-4-2. Same starting midfield as last season - expect Hargreaves to play a much bigger role, coming on for Scholes, as season progresses - ditto Anderson/Nani for Giggs.
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Posted 2 years ago #
My team
VDS
Neville Rio Vidic Evra
Scholes/Carrick Hargreaves
Ronaldo Rooney Giggs
Saha
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Posted 2 years ago #
I dont think that we'll have a 4-2-3-1 formation mainly because we dont have a front man to carry out that formation... rooney is the new no. 10 which means that he might play that role the entire season but i just dont see it paying off very well.... rooney should be left to do the cantonna role coz he does that really well....
Last season there were numnerous times when rooney camew out and said that he needs to be more and more in the box and score goals from inside like a out and out striker and he is working on it so may be that is an indication of the formation
But i have a major feeling that we will keep the 4-4-2 and make it a 4-3-3 when we are trailing for at least the better part of next season....
nani and anderson will mainly be subs and high profile ones at that... they will also come in to give scholes and giggs a rest to ensure that both of them are absolutely fit for the fag end of the season and don't tire out like giggsy did in the FA cup final.....
Formation
Van der Saar/ Foster
Neville/Brown (rotation-keep gary fresh)
Ferdinand / vida / pique (rotation for the two spots- mainly the first 2)
Evra/ Heinze (i dun think heinze's goin anywhere.. but i think silvestre is leaving)hargreaves Carrick Scholes Anderson (2 of 4)
Ronaldo (more often than not) Giggs/nani (rotated)Rooney Rossi/Saha
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Posted 2 years ago #
..........Van der Saar
Neville...Ferdinand..Vidic..Evra
........Carrick..Hargreaves
.Ronaldo.....Rooney.....Giggs
.............Tevez (
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Posted 2 years ago #
I think this will be the initial team:
VDS
Neville Rio Vidic Heinze
Hargreaves Carrick
Ronaldo Scholes Giggs
RooneyMore to mid season we will see more times Anderson in place of Scholes and Nani in place of Giggs, to give them some rotation and also to rest the old players.
But against more closed teams is possible to play as
VDS
Nevile Rio Vidic Heinze
Carrick Scholes
Ronaldo Rooney Giggs
SAhaIt is higly possible to Anderson be in place of Rooney making him to go forward, taking Saha to the bench.
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Posted 2 years ago #
how do you guys re-jig this lineup with tevez in it?
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Posted 2 years ago #
I reckon my post, a few up, will be how we line up in the big games, with Gargreaves and Carrick to keep the midfield steady.how do you guys re-jig this lineup with tevez in it?
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Posted 2 years ago #
i reckon you could be right tauren
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Posted 2 years ago #
my ideal lineup would be a real attacking formation.. something like barca's.
4-1-1-2-2
GK: VDS
DEF RB: gaz nev
DEF CB: rio
DEF CB: vida
DEF LB: evraDMF: hargreves
CMF: carrick
RWF: ronnie
LWF: naniCF: rooney
CF: tevez- giggs will rotate with nani
- anderson with carrick/nani/ronnie
- saha with tevez/rooney -
Posted 2 years ago #
With Tevez,
4-2-4 in premiership
----------Van der Sar---------
Neville---Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra
----Scholes/Carrick---Hargreaves---
Ronaldo---Rooney---Tevez---Giggs---4-3-2-1 in Europe (and against Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal)
----------Van der Sar---------
Neville---Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra
----Scholes--Carrick---Hargreaves---
---------Ronaldo---Tevez-----------
-------------Rooney-----------------Without Tevez, Saha and Rossi will rotate where Tevez is.
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Posted 2 years ago #
-----------------VDS-----------------
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Neville -- Fredinand -- Vidic -- Evra
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------ Carrick ---- Hargreaves ------
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Ronaldo ----------------------- Giggs
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--------- Rooney --------------------
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------------------ Tevez ------------I can see Carrick and Scholes changing with Scholes further up. Nani on for Giggs when he's tired / being rested. Cant quite see where Anderson is going to crop up. Swap for Rooney or Tevez, playing behind which ever one is on.
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Posted 2 years ago #
I think it is going to look something like this:
EVDS
Neville Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Hargreaves
Scholes/Carrick
Ronaldo giggs/nani
Tevez RooneyPretty much 4-4-2 but with Hargreaves protecting the back 4 and Scholes or Carrick playmaker in the middle spraying the ball to the wings or through the middle. I think two up front is the way to go as otherwise the main striker will get isolated. But both strikers will have the option of dropping deep to link up play.
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Posted 2 years ago #
dont think there will be a classic 4-4-2 anymore
the way the team plays with speed down the wings.
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