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  1. gGw
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    Posted 6 months ago #

    English football is not beautiful football. It is totally commercial football with no love for the game. It's all about making money in England. Whereas, Spanish football is not totally commercial. There are actual strategies, moves, finishes, etc. A lot more than clear, pass, shoot from 40 yards out and score. Long range goals are good every once in a while but if every game has at least one long-ranger than it just shows the lack of talent in your players. And that is where all the difference comes in between the Spanish and the English football.

    English teams really don't know how to play against a team which has such superior individual talent that one player alone can turn the whole game around without shooting every time he steps foot across the half-line. Dribbling, ball control, passing, positioning and placement shots are so perfect that it gets scary for the opponents. English teams don't know how to match up with such talent. Actually they don't have enough talent to match with the Spanish, Argentinean, Italians and Brazilians. So, what they do is play more defensive, much more defensive. So defensive that it gets negative. Full-backs don't make forward runs, center -backs don't push forward, midfield doesn't go up to support the forwards and there's only one striker who has to run from the half-line to the opposing penalty area. The English totally rely on counter-attacks and that's how they score goals. Whereas the the Spanish are passing and trying to find some room to get through the defenses.

    Now, if I tell that to any English fan he would counter me by saying whatever it takes to win or if he's a little more smart-mouthed, he would tell me something of the lines "Yea, that sucks man but it's all good if your team is doing it." Now what the hell is that? Why the double-standards? It's ok for you to play negative but if someone else does it, it is not ok? What kind of football is that? Yes sir, that's English football for you!

    I'm a fan of Barcelona and Barcelona has lost to many La Liga sides even their local rivals (Espanyol), league rivals (Real Madrid) and even to teams like Numancia and Osasuna (never heard of them, right?); but it never frustrated me or made me so mad that I want to swear out loud at the TV and even on Twitter. When there is an English opposition, they play so defensive at our home, so defensive that it's like if you're so scared to play a normal game than why did you leave the premises of your own stadium? And then they call it "strategy". Having all 11 of your players inside your own half for more than 80 percent of the time is strategy? And then there's UEFA always giving return legs to English clubs so they can play the first leg standing in a line between their goal posts and then play some football in the second leg.

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    English football has no love???????????? Do u remmember the Galactico???? That is the definition of commercial football.

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    So, what they do is play more defensive, much more defensive. So defensive that it gets negative. Full-backs don't make forward runs, center -backs don't push forward, midfield doesn't go up to support the forwards and there's only one striker who has to run from the half-line to the opposing penalty area. The English totally rely on counter-attacks and that's how they score goals

    thats a complete pile of shit.do you watch the premiership?full backs bomb on plenty,just look at chelsea,arsenal and man united esepcially.rio ferdinand never pushes on doesnt he?john terry ran a good 60 yards against everton and hit a screamer that was well saved by howard.im fairly sure lampard,gerrard and scholes(in his more youthful days) were renowned for their constant late runs into the box.and as for only having 1 striker running,you must defintely not have seen rooney and tevez in action together.that part about the counter attacking,italian football my friend,not english.now i like the spanish league,it is very exciting to watch but so is the premiership,and when you make an attack on it with such rubbish as that,well your argument is completely void of credibility

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    gGw - 2 hours ago  » 
    English football is not beautiful football. It is totally commercial football with no love for the game. It's all about making money in England. Whereas, Spanish football is not totally commercial. There are actual strategies, moves, finishes, etc. A lot more than clear, pass, shoot from 40 yards out and score. Long range goals are good every once in a while but if every game has at least one long-ranger than it just shows the lack of talent in your players. And that is where all the difference comes in between the Spanish and the English football.
    English teams really don't know how to play against a team which has such superior individual talent that one player alone can turn the whole game around without shooting every time he steps foot across the half-line. Dribbling, ball control, passing, positioning and placement shots are so perfect that it gets scary for the opponents. English teams don't know how to match up with such talent. Actually they don't have enough talent to match with the Spanish, Argentinean, Italians and Brazilians. So, what they do is play more defensive, much more defensive. So defensive that it gets negative. Full-backs don't make forward runs, center -backs don't push forward, midfield doesn't go up to support the forwards and there's only one striker who has to run from the half-line to the opposing penalty area. The English totally rely on counter-attacks and that's how they score goals. Whereas the the Spanish are passing and trying to find some room to get through the defenses.
    Now, if I tell that to any English fan he would counter me by saying whatever it takes to win or if he's a little more smart-mouthed, he would tell me something of the lines "Yea, that sucks man but it's all good if your team is doing it." Now what the hell is that? Why the double-standards? It's ok for you to play negative but if someone else does it, it is not ok? What kind of football is that? Yes sir, that's English football for you!
    I'm a fan of Barcelona and Barcelona has lost to many La Liga sides even their local rivals (Espanyol), league rivals (Real Madrid) and even to teams like Numancia and Osasuna (never heard of them, right?); but it never frustrated me or made me so mad that I want to swear out loud at the TV and even on Twitter. When there is an English opposition, they play so defensive at our home, so defensive that it's like if you're so scared to play a normal game than why did you leave the premises of your own stadium? And then they call it "strategy". Having all 11 of your players inside your own half for more than 80 percent of the time is strategy? And then there's UEFA always giving return legs to English clubs so they can play the first leg standing in a line between their goal posts and then play some football in the second leg.
    The Americans are not ruining the beautiful game of football... The English have already ruined it, the Americans are just ruining what's left of it.

    no-one can dribble, shoot and pass in english football??? have you heard of paul schole and ryan giggs in the last 15 years little boy? do me a favor, and please stop spreading shit like this.

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    Xerxesk, I hate Real Madrid too.

    Mr. duffman90, you mentioned terry ran some 60 yards and hit a screamer. How far out was he when he hit the screamer? After that you mentioned Tevez and Rooney playing together. First of all, you have to admit... Rooney does NOT look like a footballer! Now, Tevez and Rooney must play good together but you've taken what I've said out of context and answered it. I ask you, where were Rooney and Tevez on the night when United faced Barcelona last year in the Champions League? I ask you where was Lampard last night?

    Haha... vian_siu, you dare compare worthless pieces of shit like Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs to the likes of Sergio Aguero and Lionel Messi! You do me a favor and stop watching football for the sake of football. Tis' the fans like you who made football what it is today. Useless arguments over useless clubs. 15 types of leagues and cups going on in the country. Everyone wants a piece of the cake. This is bullshit man, please don't ruin this post with your crap.

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    oh sweet jesus you did not just call scholes and giggs worthless?and saying aguero is better?!that spitting prick?OPEN YOUR EYES!how can a "worthless player" play 800 games FOR MANCHESTER UNITED,10 TIME PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS,3 TIME EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS,11 TIME FA CUP WINNERS?tell me please

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    Aguero and Messi- 1 CL medal, 2 (?) league titles

    Scholes and Giggs- 4 CL medals, 18 odd league titles

    hmm, yes Messi and Aguero really stack up. That is not even counting all the other trophies...

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    Aguero plays for Atletico who haven't won anything in what 14 years?
    Also Atletico are out of the Champs League...face the facts that with the exception of Barcelona your league is shit! The big fail in your arguement is that Ronaldo of Man Utd scored from some 40yards to eliminate Porto not Atletico where was superstar Aguero then? Also how funny is it that worthless Scholes eliminated your Barca last season & how superstar Messi was all huff & no end product! Full back don't push forwards? Bosingwa, Evra, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, A.Cole, Sagna, Clichy, Gibbs, Richards, Bale, Zabaletta... Also u say where was Lampard last night the question I ask u is where was Eto'o, Henry & Messi because they didn't score & where was the whole Barca team except Messi when you faced United last year he was your only player to show & he was only just back from injury...just because of the sheer idioticy of your post I now want Chelsea to beat Barca!!!!

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    yo, fucking gGw, how dare you compare a legend like ryan giggs and paul scholes to fuckking little Aguero and messi, the truth is this two are good but haven treach their peak yet, the spanish league is more techinal but slow pace, put messi and aguero in english football, they will not became the same form lik in their spanish league days, u fucking asshole. please, dont compare to ryan giggs and paul scholes, this two are better anyday then fucking aguero and messi. u son of a bitch

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    you worthless piece of shit, messi havent on more medals and even does fucking little aguero have on yet, asshole, you tell me, u are just jealous that chelsea tied with barcelona , u fucking shit ass. just because messi didnt perform well, u shit ass.

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    Wow, I think everything has been said. gGw make everyone a favor and think before you post something. You kind of made us waste our time reading all your crap. Spanish is definitely good but NOT as good as the Premiership. Tell me. Why is there only Barça in the semi-finals this year and 3 english clubs. And well... everything else has been said.

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    gGw - 14 hours ago  » 
    Xerxesk, I hate Real Madrid too.
    Mr. duffman90, you mentioned terry ran some 60 yards and hit a screamer. How far out was he when he hit the screamer? After that you mentioned Tevez and Rooney playing together. First of all, you have to admit... Rooney does NOT look like a footballer! Now, Tevez and Rooney must play good together but you've taken what I've said out of context and answered it. I ask you, where were Rooney and Tevez on the night when United faced Barcelona last year in the Champions League? I ask you where was Lampard last night?
    Haha... vian_siu, you dare compare worthless pieces of shit like Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs to the likes of Sergio Aguero and Lionel Messi! You do me a favor and stop watching football for the sake of football. Tis' the fans like you who made football what it is today. Useless arguments over useless clubs. 15 types of leagues and cups going on in the country. Everyone wants a piece of the cake. This is bullshit man, please don't ruin this post with your crap.

    how long this wanker have been watching football? 1 year? 1 month? 1 week? fucking hell, comparing kids like messi to a LEGEND like giggs is a insult to a man of giggsy status!

    rooney cant play football? how come maradona said he is good enough for argintina, if he is argintinan and his name is rooniniho.

    as for spainish football better than epl? i got something for ya...liverpool (2nd in the league, 4th last year, havent won the title for 19 years) 4 - real madrid (2nd in the league, champions last year) 0, in real's backyard...

    seriously, do me a favor and use that tiny brain of yours before posting anything.

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    as for barca never frustrated people? well, prepare to get frustrated at chelsea in a week's time.

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    First I have to say is that I´m spanish so excuse me for my english.
    I´m a Real Madrid fan and of course I hate Barcelona. But I have to say that nowadays Barcelona it

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    simply better than Chelsea.

    Spanish league is not better than English one. None of them is better than the other. They´re only different.

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    IMO - The EPL is easily the best league in Europe in many ways (entertainment, players, stadia, quality etc... ... ...) but how long has it been since a team outside of the big 4 won silverware in Europe???? If a team like Bolton or Fulham or Everton played any other European team of similar European experience, is everyone so sure that the English team would perform so dominantly???? Didn't Sevilla beat Boro' in a UEFA cup final???? Did Hamburg spank City recently??? Are there any EPL teams left in the UEFA cup??? How well did EPL teams fair in the UEFA cup last year???

    Just raising some questions! Any one wish to add to this???

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    seiriusly WHO GIVES A FCUK if half of the players on the top 4's squads aren't english it only matters how well they play, what about Real Madrid? Beckham Zidane Figo Owen Cicinho Ronaldo ? are any of them spanish?? the only spanish player on real that actually starts is cassilas, raul is shit.

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    yeah, gGW look at the comments, look at the fucking comment, take ur fucking asshole time to reply properly, and p.S, because of ur fucking idioty ost, i would love to barcelona which to me is one of the best team, Barca= Shitza because of you

    reply properly, asshole, barcelona sucks beacuse of you gGW , you fucking asshole

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    guys. you're talking with emotions. be rational. think and study b4 talk. and talk with good words, not with these "fucking, rubbish, idiot, asshole, shit" word. we are football fans. not a hooligan or mafia. i'm watching both leagues and i agree with pablo. these leagues have their own uniqueness. we can pick the uniqueness of BPL which their clubs grab 3slots in semifinals UCL. but remember liga BBVA have done it earlier before. also remember that the competition in liga BBVA is much harder with the good of barca, real, valencia, villarreal, ath.madrid and sevilla which make these league more interesting to be watched. but only 4clubs dominating BPL. man.city and spurs even spending big money, they still far behind the top 4.

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    gGw - 4 days ago  » 
    When there is an English opposition, they play so defensive at our home, so defensive that it's like if you're so scared to play a normal game than why did you leave the premises of your own stadium? And then they call it "strategy". Having all 11 of your players inside your own half for more than 80 percent of the time is strategy?

    i'm agree with gGw. i'm newcastle's fan. and to make a rational comment of the match between barca and chelsea, i have to watch the game. its no doubt that chelsea played very defensively. they played just like newcastle against man utd. they feel very small compared to man utd's players. therefore they played very defensively with united launched number of attacking moves. shall i compare
    barca=man utd,
    chelsea=newcastle?
    maybe chelsea already watch a number of barca's game. so that they feel no more than a team which protected by FA, money, and fans, being attacked by number of beautiful moves by barca. most of the time chased for the ball and frustrated. while barca entertaining their fans with the beauty of football.

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    I'm no longer going to take a part in this conversation because of what kind of a training mzrkyh09 got from his parents and how are things dealt with in his house.

    I made my point and was expecting some decent replies. I did get a few and I was willing to make it a proper argument. Sadly, it's the low-life people like mzrkyh09 who can't keep their mouth shut and it's the good for nothing people like mzrkyh09 who we call hooligans. Showing no respect to anyone doesn't make you any cooler.

    A word of advice for mzrkyh09, if you don't know the facts or if you don't know how to counter an argument... Shut the fuck up.

    Disappointing. I rest my case.

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    no, gGW, it is you who should shut the fuck up, you insult ryan giggs and p[aul scholes, how about aguero and messi, therefore i say messi is shit and bitch, same to aguero, it is you who should shut the fuck up and cried to ur mom, what you have family problem, it is you who is scared and afarid since no one support you, it is you is a scumbug and ur shitza shoudl rot in hell, asshole, it is you that is low life, what you all say is all you and please please dont desribe ur pathetic life to a guy like me, please keep ur personal shit to yourself, go and fuck up bitch

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    and one more thing, i will beat you anytime, anywhere and any how, i know all my fact, the soccer league is determined by society not individual, please dont post this stupid form about spanish football is more beatiful than english, as daniel shah say every football has its own beauty, it is you judged not society, and plase dont insult urself again by saying that u have no education, you are such a lousy & low-life supporter

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    jesus,you're really after going too far.criticise what he said,not him personally

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    lets just say none of these two know what they are about. as for chelski scare of barca, or have brain but stick everyone on the goal line blah, blah, blah...why do people keep on forgeting this is a two leged tie? you want to give the other team the advantage in the first game, and they didnt, especially they got the second game at home. this is called tatics. now they got the tough away game out of the way, all they need to do is win their home game. simple isnt it? why cant some people understadn this?

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    thing is i dont care who are United going to face in the final, be it Barca or Chelsea, we will win it.

    i dont care who Hamburg meets in the final, be Shaktar or Dynamo, we will win it!

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    I dont Undrestand why he compares 20 year olds to 33+ players.

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    se he think he know the facts but in fact he dosent, they why i said that it is dumb and for vian-siu, ur saying is right, CL has two leg and any team can use anykind of stargery in this game but i am arguing that he is comparing wonderkids to legends which is dumb.....

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    and xeresk, i think u are saying gGW right??

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    Posted 6 months ago #

    yes


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