You're missing the point here, we know that Berba scores and creates a lot more than Tevez, but the energy and pace Tevez adds to the side is amazing, look at against Spurs for example, we were 2-0 down, Berba was strolling about as usual but a soon as Tevez came, we were alive, its like his effort is infectious, it helps United play an attacking, rush passing game. though I think Berbatov is almost as good as Tevez and I agree that he lets us use the long ball a lot more (with so many games we've had to use it along with the more defensive playing), I'm sure Berbatov will get better this was his first season and sometimes it just takes a bit of time for things to improve.
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Berbatov is better than Tevez. Proven!!!
24 posts - Started 6 months ago by Daniel Grigg - Latest reply from azz0020 -
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Posted 6 months ago #
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Posted 6 months ago #
i always thought berbas problem for us was that hes too much of a team player.i still think what tevez brings to the team is more useful than what berba does.we can play a much higher tempo game with him on the pitch,and when we play like that its extremely difficult for other teams to cope with
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Posted 6 months ago #
well i mean teams couldnt handle the intensity of our attack last season,and when we have played with tevez and rooney this season the opposition has struggled again.it may be one dimensional,but it is still very difficult to handle.look at how arsenal crumbled because of it.
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Posted 6 months ago #
You don't pay 30 million for "energy guys." Tevez is more one-dimensional than Berbatov is. He's perfect as a late-game match changer like Ole was since he's coming in against a tired defense and his energy is too much. However, over the course of 90-plus minutes, more often than not, the advantage is negligible. Plus, good teams know how to neutralize someone like him, and he doesn't have Berbatov's size, or more importantly, skills to make a contribution if he's facing a good defense. And, lest we forget, no one ever thought Ole was worth that kind of dough, as good as he was.
Berbatov gets a lot of flack, but I think he's an amazing player. He's one of those guys who is so good that he makes it look easy. As fans, it's natural to hate those guys. Look at the NBA where people hate Tracy McGrady because he looks like he's loafing all the time. Fact is, we have no idea what's going through Berbatov's head (and we probably couldn't understand it if we could, unless someone on this forum is fluent in Bulgarian). You have to stay true to your nature. That's why Wayne Rooney plays the way he plays and that's why Tevez plays the way he does. They can't do it any other way. It doesn't make them better, because in the end, it's about getting results. As "luckyspurs" showed, Berbatov has gotten results.
Also, it's easy to root for someone like Tevez because it looks like he's playing so hard. We think "oh well, even if he doesn't score, it's okay because he's really trying." How does that make sense? Tevez is a professional! He's supposed to score! He doesn't get paid to try. Plus, how is that fair to Berbatov? So we should expect him to score every time because he doesn't look like he's running wind sprints out there? Maybe he's not running full tilt out there because he wants to let the play develop and then pick out someone with a great pass (which, as we've seen, he's eminently capable of doing) rather than go all out by yourself and either shoot over the bar or get forced out by a defender. If Tevez is worth the same amount of money as Berbatov (and maybe even more, if we are to believe some of the figures floating out there), then shouldn't they be treated the same way?
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Posted 6 months ago #
I look at Tevez as a player who is everywhere in the pitch, high tempo but doing really nothing very creative,he cant even hold the ball for long like Berba and like any target player, he worked hard for man utd to secure him from westham,then slept mid way, and woke up again because he wants a permanent contract and sympathy from fans, Tevez is similar to Rooney in the Tempo,less at the work rate.Many will agree with me, its not logical to have both Rooney and Tevez on the pitch with Berba on the bench in the starting line up.It should either one of the two plus Berba and of course Rooney is undisputed.Tevez's best pontential is when he is from the bench.Berbatov on the other hand though his style is lazy like,its characteristic of holding the ball keeping the defenders home,aerial presence,sleek passes,through balls,beautiful goals which the team is now learnig to adopt to hence the beautiful football that we now play, soon enough,the great combination Rooney, Ronaldo, Berbatov will be the best in Europe..
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Posted 6 months ago #
Anderson is brilliant, he can keep players like Fabregras in his pocket no problem he has the strength that this team has sorely needed with he absence of Hargreaves this season, Nani has been okay this season but has been kept out of the team by Park and his inexperience has shown a couple of times. I know Tevez didn't score too many last season, but the goals he has scored this season (and last) have been crucially important ones, plus Ronaldo was hogging all the good finishing opportunities created by Tevez and Rooney, Tevez runs teams ragged, keeps the opposition defenses occupied to free up space for the runners from midfield (Ronaldo mainly) and Rooney too to give those guys all the chances, he is a REAL team player who would rather give others the chance to score and do all the hard work himself. The argument that Tevez is somehow "One -dimensional" is ridiculous, he has the quality to score screamers, yet the guile to bundle in a goal when the team needs it the most (FA cup game against Fulham for example) and his partnership with Rooney was hailed as the best anywhere last year. And to say that Man United struggle against the top 4 teams when Tevez plays is laughable, look at the record from this year (with Berbatov) 1 win 2 Draws and 3 losses compared to last year (with Tevez) 4 Wins 1 Draw and 1 Loss, the stats speak for themselves there. Please don't try to argue with Manchester United fans who watch their team every week, about what players are better than others, we are not idiots and know very well the benefits of Berbatov and Tevez. Hell if it was up to me I'd keep them both, one on the bench each time as the contrast in their styles is Uniteds' greatest advantage, the defenders don't have a clue when they are subbed for each other and can't handle the change in the way United play with each of them.
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Posted 6 months ago #
I think we flow better with Tevez, but that is just because this is Berbas first season and its taken some getting used to playing with him plus the defensive way we've had to play this season with so many games makes our game less attractive than last year which probably reflected badly on Berbatov, however I would want to keep Tevez at all costs if he is going to Liverpool, no way I could stand it if the fat waiter got his grubby hands on him...
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Posted 6 months ago #
another of berbas problems for us is his shocking incosistency.look at the last few games.plays a blinder against city,then does f all against wigan except put in 1 decent cross.he really needs to work on being more consistent
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Posted 6 months ago #
then how is tevez inconsistent???
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Posted 6 months ago #
wow, thats it???? I'm surprised.
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Posted 6 months ago #
The key phrase being "in the league" where he hardly played a game
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Posted 6 months ago #
stats only tell half the story IMO.his all-round play does more for us than berbatov.when berbatov plays well,its great.but he does that far too rarely.tevez on the other hand might not score much,although he has more than berbatov in all competitions,but he will always run the opposition into the ground
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Posted 6 months ago #
what a shame that you all even want to compare Berbaflop to Tevez....I tell you when you all lost Rossi that was a mistake but losing Tevez is going to be an even bigger botch...
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Posted 6 months ago #
Well said Rhian, and also Duffman. He does help alot more. Welcome back Rhian.
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Posted 6 months ago #
Rhian I heard you have a bet on....
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Posted 6 months ago #
Yeah, welcome back Rhian and do you remember that bet we (MU fans and you) had that you'd have to wear United colours if Utd won the league ??? So, are you ready Rhian ?
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Posted 5 months ago #
ha ha ha ha....i was hoping you all would forget that but i am a man of my word....i will change my avatar to something UTD.
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Posted 5 months ago #
funny guy...
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Posted 5 months ago #
I thought we had the right to choose what avatar Rhian would put on !!! Duff, Foster, AB, get over here !!!
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Posted 5 months ago #
Berbatov was so stunned and intoxicated by the presence of all that new Barcelona man-meat like Busquets in front of him, as he often is, that he decided to take his usual on field daydreamer's nap. 32M quid: What a load of rubbish!
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Posted 5 months ago #
ya that's true..
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Posted 5 months ago #
Berba had a good chance to get a goal from a header near the end, Tevez was trying his best, he closed down the defence brilliantly and forces scuffed clearances, but the midfield was so poor that after winning the first header, we immediately gave the ball away to Xavi and Iniesta
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Posted 5 months ago #
Yes imagine Giggs missing a basically open net...As I have said before Park is wank, wingers are to score & assist not defend, besides he didn't help O'shea or Evra so was pointless.
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