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		<title>By: soccerfeverish</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/foreign-flair-gives-premier-league-elite-status/3109/#comment-59634</link>
		<dc:creator>soccerfeverish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fifth Column has made a valid point in terms of local community and team relations. Apart from that the influx of foreign players is also hurting the national cause in terms of Euro or world cups.

The local lads though talented don&#039;t get to make the first team regularly in EPL coz the EPL managers bank on foreign players whom they find more reliable. Hence despite their potential they are not selected in national team to represent in international tournaments just coz they are second string in their very own clubs. 

There are very few English stars in EPL teams much less in the top 4 clubs. They happen to constitute the bulk of the national team. Without them we have no viable alternative.
Against Russia and Israel too we fielded players who were not the mainstay but were fringe players and got results.

Now compare ourselves with Brazil who in the recently concluded Copa America fielded barely known names (Except Robinho) and still managed to reach the finals and beat a full strength Argentina who in contrast had fielded all their stars. Can England do a Brazil and win. 

Argentina won the FIFA Under20 world cup with players who regularly figure in the domestic league games and had the requisite matches to develop as players. There is some Argentina kid 6&#039; 4&quot; tall who is being touted as the new Maradona and Cheslea and other big clubs are running mad after his services. Yet this kid could not find a place in Argentina&#039;s cup winning squad.

Jose&#039;s boss Roman wants instant results so you see Chelsea picking up all the 30 odd years players for inflated amounts. However Benitez and SAF have no such constraints and they wisely build for the future and so does Arsene Wenger. But whom are they bringing into their teams. 
In the name of building for the future Benitez brings some 18 year old Hungarian striker and another non-english midfielder. SAF gets two Brazilian kids who are brothers who play as fullbacks on either side.  
English kids do not figure even in their future plans. 

What has happened to the erstwhile famed youth systems of Liverpool and Manchester United which churned out great English players like Gerard, Owen, Paul Scholes, and Beckham? Now even the youth teams of the clubs take in only foreign players.

It&#039;s a sad site to see England play in world cup matches and come away with nothing but more controversy. With each passing season the 1966 world cup triumph seems all the more impossible to repeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fifth Column has made a valid point in terms of local community and team relations. Apart from that the influx of foreign players is also hurting the national cause in terms of Euro or world cups.</p>
<p>The local lads though talented don&#8217;t get to make the first team regularly in EPL coz the EPL managers bank on foreign players whom they find more reliable. Hence despite their potential they are not selected in national team to represent in international tournaments just coz they are second string in their very own clubs. </p>
<p>There are very few English stars in EPL teams much less in the top 4 clubs. They happen to constitute the bulk of the national team. Without them we have no viable alternative.<br />
Against Russia and Israel too we fielded players who were not the mainstay but were fringe players and got results.</p>
<p>Now compare ourselves with Brazil who in the recently concluded Copa America fielded barely known names (Except Robinho) and still managed to reach the finals and beat a full strength Argentina who in contrast had fielded all their stars. Can England do a Brazil and win. </p>
<p>Argentina won the FIFA Under20 world cup with players who regularly figure in the domestic league games and had the requisite matches to develop as players. There is some Argentina kid 6&#8242; 4&#8243; tall who is being touted as the new Maradona and Cheslea and other big clubs are running mad after his services. Yet this kid could not find a place in Argentina&#8217;s cup winning squad.</p>
<p>Jose&#8217;s boss Roman wants instant results so you see Chelsea picking up all the 30 odd years players for inflated amounts. However Benitez and SAF have no such constraints and they wisely build for the future and so does Arsene Wenger. But whom are they bringing into their teams.<br />
In the name of building for the future Benitez brings some 18 year old Hungarian striker and another non-english midfielder. SAF gets two Brazilian kids who are brothers who play as fullbacks on either side.<br />
English kids do not figure even in their future plans. </p>
<p>What has happened to the erstwhile famed youth systems of Liverpool and Manchester United which churned out great English players like Gerard, Owen, Paul Scholes, and Beckham? Now even the youth teams of the clubs take in only foreign players.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sad site to see England play in world cup matches and come away with nothing but more controversy. With each passing season the 1966 world cup triumph seems all the more impossible to repeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/foreign-flair-gives-premier-league-elite-status/3109/#comment-59603</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FC - there&#039;s no impact on the national team, can we please get over that?

the link to local communities is loosening because of the influx of money and the vicious cycle that generates. When you&#039;ve got rising ticket prices and advertising shoved in your face not everyone wants to buy your product.

And when local football is marginalised for the cause of that regional club in the Premiership, TV wins every single time.

the &#039;Product&#039; is great, yes it needs to be more in tune with local needs but it&#039;s not hurting the national team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FC &#8211; there&#8217;s no impact on the national team, can we please get over that?</p>
<p>the link to local communities is loosening because of the influx of money and the vicious cycle that generates. When you&#8217;ve got rising ticket prices and advertising shoved in your face not everyone wants to buy your product.</p>
<p>And when local football is marginalised for the cause of that regional club in the Premiership, TV wins every single time.</p>
<p>the &#8216;Product&#8217; is great, yes it needs to be more in tune with local needs but it&#8217;s not hurting the national team.</p>
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		<title>By: Fifth Column</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fifth Column</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you&#039;re comparing Drogba with Lampard for goalscoring.  What does that prove?  If you had any pie-eating stats Lampard would be miles ahead.

What about number of court appearances... Bellamy, Woodgate, Ferdinand, Bowyer... other nationalities don&#039;t compare.

In all seriousness, if you are looking at the &quot;Product&quot; in terms of entertainment then the Prem is probably the best at present.

if you look at the impact on the national team, the loosening of the link to local communities, fragmentation of society etc... it has a negative knock-on effect.  I don&#039;t give a monkeys about competing in Europe and therefore would prefer more English players as it re-establishes a link between the community and teams.

In the long term with such a reduction in any form of link between teams and local communities there will be no locals attending anymore.  That&#039;s fine as long as football is still trendy.  But when all the jonny-come-latelys go to some other pass-time, then the game will be ####ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you&#8217;re comparing Drogba with Lampard for goalscoring.  What does that prove?  If you had any pie-eating stats Lampard would be miles ahead.</p>
<p>What about number of court appearances&#8230; Bellamy, Woodgate, Ferdinand, Bowyer&#8230; other nationalities don&#8217;t compare.</p>
<p>In all seriousness, if you are looking at the &#8220;Product&#8221; in terms of entertainment then the Prem is probably the best at present.</p>
<p>if you look at the impact on the national team, the loosening of the link to local communities, fragmentation of society etc&#8230; it has a negative knock-on effect.  I don&#8217;t give a monkeys about competing in Europe and therefore would prefer more English players as it re-establishes a link between the community and teams.</p>
<p>In the long term with such a reduction in any form of link between teams and local communities there will be no locals attending anymore.  That&#8217;s fine as long as football is still trendy.  But when all the jonny-come-latelys go to some other pass-time, then the game will be ####ed.</p>
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		<title>By: indianpunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>indianpunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well 
Liverpool = Spainish side
Arsenal = Frnech side 
Man U = A UK side 
Chealski = A Mix of Dirt From across the Globe :)

So its just like the way managers are from the more international managers come the more international players will come</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well<br />
Liverpool = Spainish side<br />
Arsenal = Frnech side<br />
Man U = A UK side<br />
Chealski = A Mix of Dirt From across the Globe <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So its just like the way managers are from the more international managers come the more international players will come</p>
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		<title>By: DBeech</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBeech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw the title of this article I thought it was going to be about the obsession of (a small contingent of) foreigners living in Australia who can&#039;t go to a soccer game without setting off a flare. Nevermind that flares don&#039;t seem to bear any real correlation to soccer (or any sport for that matter).

Anyway, surely you realize it&#039;s spelt F-L-A-I-R? As in a certain Boy from the Nature?

Woo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw the title of this article I thought it was going to be about the obsession of (a small contingent of) foreigners living in Australia who can&#8217;t go to a soccer game without setting off a flare. Nevermind that flares don&#8217;t seem to bear any real correlation to soccer (or any sport for that matter).</p>
<p>Anyway, surely you realize it&#8217;s spelt F-L-A-I-R? As in a certain Boy from the Nature?</p>
<p>Woo.</p>
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		<title>By: hobtuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobtuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the real reason for the lack of englishmen is due to the poor attitude of the players. look at jermaine pennant. prime example. talented player. but extremely foul attitude. looks to have too much $ for his young age. but i m glad he joined pool. such a shite player surely deserves pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the real reason for the lack of englishmen is due to the poor attitude of the players. look at jermaine pennant. prime example. talented player. but extremely foul attitude. looks to have too much $ for his young age. but i m glad he joined pool. such a shite player surely deserves pool.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant to say 43.3% English</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to say 43.3% English</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless of course you discount Wales, Ireland, Scotland, N.Ireland
= 33.3% English</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless of course you discount Wales, Ireland, Scotland, N.Ireland<br />
= 33.3% English</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The top four clubs of England all have lower than 40% of it&#039;s squad being actual Englishmen...&quot;

- Manchester United = 56.6% (17 out of 30)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The top four clubs of England all have lower than 40% of it&#8217;s squad being actual Englishmen&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>- Manchester United = 56.6% (17 out of 30)</p>
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