Comments on: Football and technology: a marriage made in Hell or the inevitable truth? http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/ Soccerlens - Football News You Can Trust Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:26:47 -0800 http://soccerlens.com/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: FF http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109958 FF Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:30:55 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109958 Glad to hear it. By all means, be my guest, and I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on it. Glad to hear it. By all means, be my guest, and I’m very interested to hear your thoughts on it.

]]> By: Chris Nee http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109936 Chris Nee Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:36:02 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109936 Thanks again for further comments. Steve, that's a really interesting interview - thanks for highlighting. FF, I've had a look at your site too. That should provide lunchtime reading and pondering for a good few days! Thanks again for further comments.

Steve, that’s a really interesting interview – thanks for highlighting. FF, I’ve had a look at your site too. That should provide lunchtime reading and pondering for a good few days!

]]> By: FF http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109925 FF Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:29:29 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109925 Well, a decent opinion, in principle. I'd like to hear his thoughts on my proposal. But that's probably not going to happen. Well, a decent opinion, in principle. I’d like to hear his thoughts on my proposal. But that’s probably not going to happen.

]]> By: Steve Amoia http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109899 Steve Amoia Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:49:50 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109899 Last year, we interviewed Ian Blanchard, Head of National Referee Development at the FA. Here was his opinion about technology: Q: Since we are discussing innovations in the role of match officials, technology enters the equation. At the 2005 U-17 World Cup in Peru, goal line ball chip technology by adidas was used for the first time. In December 2007, it was used at the World Club Championships in Japan. What is your opinion on developments such as this, along with video replay monitors, similar to ones used in American gridiron football, during the game itself? Ian Blanchard: "One has to understand the cultural makeup and history of football. At its roots lies the passion of the game, the excitement, and free flow passage of the ball quickly making its way from one end of the field to the other. The commitment of players challenging for the ball, the battle to dominate and keep possession are all attributes of this fantastic game of ours. Of course when it comes to high profile wrong decisions, when relegation or promotion is at stake, questions are asked whether technology could play a part. In my mind we need to be open to anything that assists the match officials in getting those big, crucial decisions right. Provided of course such technology does not interfere with the fundamentals of our game as described above. The electronic chip has still to be developed effectively but I do think it has the potential, provided of course that it is of benefit to the referee and aids the referee’s decision making." Link: http://soccerlens.com/interview-with-ian-blanchard/5535/ Last year, we interviewed Ian Blanchard, Head of National Referee Development at the FA. Here was his opinion about technology:

Q:

Since we are discussing innovations in the role of match officials, technology enters the equation. At the 2005 U-17 World Cup in Peru, goal line ball chip technology by adidas was used for the first time. In December 2007, it was used at the World Club Championships in Japan. What is your opinion on developments such as this, along with video replay monitors, similar to ones used in American gridiron football, during the game itself?

Ian Blanchard:

“One has to understand the cultural makeup and history of football. At its roots lies the passion of the game, the excitement, and free flow passage of the ball quickly making its way from one end of the field to the other. The commitment of players challenging for the ball, the battle to dominate and keep possession are all attributes of this fantastic game of ours.

Of course when it comes to high profile wrong decisions, when relegation or promotion is at stake, questions are asked whether technology could play a part. In my mind we need to be open to anything that assists the match officials in getting those big, crucial decisions right. Provided of course such technology does not interfere with the fundamentals of our game as described above.

The electronic chip has still to be developed effectively but I do think it has the potential, provided of course that it is of benefit to the referee and aids the referee’s decision making.”

Link:

http://soccerlens.com/interview-with-ian-blanchard/5535/

]]> By: FF http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109865 FF Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:11:35 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109865 > As I’ve said a few times before here on SoccerLens. IMO we could have video replays without interrupting the game (too much). You can see the details here: > http://www.fairfootball.com/video_ref.htm Correction: it could most likely be done with practically no interruption at all. > As I’ve said a few times before here on SoccerLens. IMO we could have video replays without interrupting the game (too much). You can see the details here:

> http://www.fairfootball.com/video_ref.htm

Correction: it could most likely be done with practically no interruption at all.

]]> By: FF http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109864 FF Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:38:44 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109864 > @ FF - to clarify, in that first line you’ve quoted I simply meant that those issues arise in discussion, not necessarily the game. Yes, that's clear. Everybody talks about it but nothing changes, and next season it all starts over again. > @ FF – to clarify, in that first line you’ve quoted I simply meant that those issues arise in discussion, not necessarily the game.

Yes, that’s clear. Everybody talks about it but nothing changes, and next season it all starts over again.

]]> By: BD Condell http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109853 BD Condell Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:24:03 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109853 I wondered when FF would show up. That's my work done then! :) I wondered when FF would show up. That’s my work done then! :)

]]> By: Chris Nee http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109852 Chris Nee Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:12:11 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109852 Thanks all for your comments, it's an interesting discussion. @ FF - to clarify, in that first line you've quoted I simply meant that those issues arise in discussion, not necessarily the game. Thanks all for your comments, it’s an interesting discussion.

@ FF – to clarify, in that first line you’ve quoted I simply meant that those issues arise in discussion, not necessarily the game.

]]> By: Madschester United http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109844 Madschester United Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:22:19 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109844 I say start with awarding yellow/red cards after a game based on video-replays. Then add this feature during games with the reserve referee informing the on-field referee of diving and other dirty tricks. We allow advantage on goal-scoring events and delay carding until ball is out of place - why not do this on diving?? I say start with awarding yellow/red cards after a game based on video-replays.

Then add this feature during games with the reserve referee informing the on-field referee of diving and other dirty tricks. We allow advantage on goal-scoring events and delay carding until ball is out of place – why not do this on diving??

]]> By: RedLine55 http://soccerlens.com/football-and-technology-a-marriage-made-in-hell-or-the-inevitable-truth/20437/comment-page-1/#comment-109839 RedLine55 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:26:38 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=20437#comment-109839 I have to say "no" to everything except perhaps the goal-line technology. Some of these plays move so fast and the goalmouths are so crowded that I don't think an additional ref on the end line would really help too much, if that's what's being suggested. But if someone in an upstairs booth could have a quick look, then I see no harm in that, especially since the ramifications of such a decision are huge in football. I am NOT in favor of replays for tackles, cards, penalties, etc. There are sooo many instances in which a ref "could" use the replay, that it would be abused... and let's face it, I think most top-level refs are too "proud" to consult a video even when they should. And aren't those (especially penalties) some of the most fun to complain/cheer about!? Hell, as a fan I need some sort of excuse when my team loses.. and I'd like to keep blaming the refs for a lil while longer.... I have to say “no” to everything except perhaps the goal-line technology. Some of these plays move so fast and the goalmouths are so crowded that I don’t think an additional ref on the end line would really help too much, if that’s what’s being suggested. But if someone in an upstairs booth could have a quick look, then I see no harm in that, especially since the ramifications of such a decision are huge in football.
I am NOT in favor of replays for tackles, cards, penalties, etc. There are sooo many instances in which a ref “could” use the replay, that it would be abused… and let’s face it, I think most top-level refs are too “proud” to consult a video even when they should. And aren’t those (especially penalties) some of the most fun to complain/cheer about!? Hell, as a fan I need some sort of excuse when my team loses.. and I’d like to keep blaming the refs for a lil while longer….

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