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		<title>By: Coventry City vs. West Ham Tonight &#124; Mike Rouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coventry City vs. West Ham Tonight &#124; Mike Rouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] league team any more we can still pack a punch. I don&#8217;t think that Curbishley will make the mistake that Alex Fergusson made of putting out a youth team only to be beaten at Old [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] league team any more we can still pack a punch. I don&#8217;t think that Curbishley will make the mistake that Alex Fergusson made of putting out a youth team only to be beaten at Old [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FC - Thats a classic. Yeah everyones praising Arsenal about this young talent they got and yes they play some great football but it&#039;s not good for English youngsters in general. Utd have bought Nani, Andy &amp; Ronaldo along with others but it&#039;s good that the likes of Bardsley Simpson &amp; Eagles will get a chance but as you stated the likes of Bentley and Upson had to leave Arsenal.

Well here&#039;s hoping that you Hammers will give them a bit of a shock on Sat. As long as you compete and don&#039;t let them get into their pretty patterns like what Spurs and Derby did, you could get a good result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FC &#8211; Thats a classic. Yeah everyones praising Arsenal about this young talent they got and yes they play some great football but it&#8217;s not good for English youngsters in general. Utd have bought Nani, Andy &amp; Ronaldo along with others but it&#8217;s good that the likes of Bardsley Simpson &amp; Eagles will get a chance but as you stated the likes of Bentley and Upson had to leave Arsenal.</p>
<p>Well here&#8217;s hoping that you Hammers will give them a bit of a shock on Sat. As long as you compete and don&#8217;t let them get into their pretty patterns like what Spurs and Derby did, you could get a good result.</p>
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		<title>By: Dev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For starters, lets not run down Nani and anderson . Football&#039;s a team game and you play as good as the team. You certainly don&#039;t expect them to score Miracle goals everytime they r on the pitch. They are stars and just need time to get used to ManU style of play. You don&#039;t get into the Brazil/Portugal team for nothing. Why r the Arse fans making so much of noise after winning few Home games. Come April, and u&#039;ll be strugling to be in the top 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters, lets not run down Nani and anderson . Football&#8217;s a team game and you play as good as the team. You certainly don&#8217;t expect them to score Miracle goals everytime they r on the pitch. They are stars and just need time to get used to ManU style of play. You don&#8217;t get into the Brazil/Portugal team for nothing. Why r the Arse fans making so much of noise after winning few Home games. Come April, and u&#8217;ll be strugling to be in the top 4.</p>
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		<title>By: Premier League Headlines: Chelsea, Sunderland, Tottenham, Newcastle, Liverpool and more &#124; Soccerlens - Football News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Premier League Headlines: Chelsea, Sunderland, Tottenham, Newcastle, Liverpool and more &#124; Soccerlens - Football News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of debate between football fans this week is the Carling Cup ties- you can read more about that here. Apart from that, there are always things happening in the Premiership- some of the most important [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;l win nothing with kids fergie!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;l win nothing with kids fergie!! <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LiamOKelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiamOKelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at it this way, apparently Nani and Anderson are crap now because they haven&#039;t settled in in their first 5 games. Just like Vidic and Evra were wastes of money they were complete crap for their 1st 6 months....oh wait they were two of the best signings (if not the best) over the last 3 years. Ronaldo was a waste paying 12m for an unproven player...oh wait he is worth 3 or 4 times that now. So Anderson has played a grand total of 1 and a half games for United&#039;s first team and suddenly he&#039;s crap and Nani is crap despite only playing something like 4 games(during which he scored and made 2 assists)....yes I think so too. Especially when the signing of Theo Walcott for a fee rising to 12m pounds seems to have gone under the radar a bit. What has he done? is he expected to go out every week and score/run the other team ragged. I&#039;m sure all of the Arsenal fans will reply saying&#039;he was bought for the future and isn&#039;t expected to do that now&#039; but then why should Nani and Anderson be expected to do that every time they step on a pitch. Nani and Anderson have proved themselves in the Portuguese first division, Theo has barely proved himself in the Championship. Both Nani and Anderson have played in competitive senior internationals for their country (Nani scoring 2 goals), Can Theo say that?

As for Arsenal, if Fabregas and Adebayor for example were missing this season like Rooney and Ronaldo have been would we even be having this discussion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at it this way, apparently Nani and Anderson are crap now because they haven&#8217;t settled in in their first 5 games. Just like Vidic and Evra were wastes of money they were complete crap for their 1st 6 months&#8230;.oh wait they were two of the best signings (if not the best) over the last 3 years. Ronaldo was a waste paying 12m for an unproven player&#8230;oh wait he is worth 3 or 4 times that now. So Anderson has played a grand total of 1 and a half games for United&#8217;s first team and suddenly he&#8217;s crap and Nani is crap despite only playing something like 4 games(during which he scored and made 2 assists)&#8230;.yes I think so too. Especially when the signing of Theo Walcott for a fee rising to 12m pounds seems to have gone under the radar a bit. What has he done? is he expected to go out every week and score/run the other team ragged. I&#8217;m sure all of the Arsenal fans will reply saying&#8217;he was bought for the future and isn&#8217;t expected to do that now&#8217; but then why should Nani and Anderson be expected to do that every time they step on a pitch. Nani and Anderson have proved themselves in the Portuguese first division, Theo has barely proved himself in the Championship. Both Nani and Anderson have played in competitive senior internationals for their country (Nani scoring 2 goals), Can Theo say that?</p>
<p>As for Arsenal, if Fabregas and Adebayor for example were missing this season like Rooney and Ronaldo have been would we even be having this discussion?</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KoZ - since you asked...

1) Giggsy cross. Mate, if we&#039;re going to pick out specific incidents I can point you to most of this season and much of the second half of last season when Giggsy was under-par. 

My point in the Giggs + Scholes article was that if those two were our first-choice, it would damage our play in midfield and because of that we would under-perform. Giggs is good at crossing and if you remember from that article I didn&#039;t rate Nani as being better than him, I just said that Nani should be given maximum exposure and as a result Giggs could be rotated more often instead of being forced onto the team.

As for Scholes - the point about how he holds our midfield back still stands, regardless of how good he is or how much he helps in winning games. 

2) Carling Cup

I can&#039;t believe for an instant that Fergie would accept a home defeat, let alone any sort of defeat, lying down. He trusted the players to do the job and they came up short (more a case of not taking their chances), but to take the exit as a positive sign is to ignore two things:

one, fergie made a tactical error - i love the guy and would pick him as manager everytime, but he makes his share of mistakes. 

two, our kids get no where near as much time as they should be getting. You cannot expect a bunch of kids to go up in a competitive game and come away as winners. A more balanced team would have done much better, at least we could have more strength on the bench (yes, I know there&#039;s a home game against Roma in midweek).

I don&#039;t want Manchester United to lose any game, and I do not think &#039;its ok&#039; because it&#039;s the Carling Cup. When United lose, it hurts like hell mate, whether it&#039;s in the league or in the cup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KoZ &#8211; since you asked&#8230;</p>
<p>1) Giggsy cross. Mate, if we&#8217;re going to pick out specific incidents I can point you to most of this season and much of the second half of last season when Giggsy was under-par. </p>
<p>My point in the Giggs + Scholes article was that if those two were our first-choice, it would damage our play in midfield and because of that we would under-perform. Giggs is good at crossing and if you remember from that article I didn&#8217;t rate Nani as being better than him, I just said that Nani should be given maximum exposure and as a result Giggs could be rotated more often instead of being forced onto the team.</p>
<p>As for Scholes &#8211; the point about how he holds our midfield back still stands, regardless of how good he is or how much he helps in winning games. </p>
<p>2) Carling Cup</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe for an instant that Fergie would accept a home defeat, let alone any sort of defeat, lying down. He trusted the players to do the job and they came up short (more a case of not taking their chances), but to take the exit as a positive sign is to ignore two things:</p>
<p>one, fergie made a tactical error &#8211; i love the guy and would pick him as manager everytime, but he makes his share of mistakes. </p>
<p>two, our kids get no where near as much time as they should be getting. You cannot expect a bunch of kids to go up in a competitive game and come away as winners. A more balanced team would have done much better, at least we could have more strength on the bench (yes, I know there&#8217;s a home game against Roma in midweek).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want Manchester United to lose any game, and I do not think &#8216;its ok&#8217; because it&#8217;s the Carling Cup. When United lose, it hurts like hell mate, whether it&#8217;s in the league or in the cup.</p>
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		<title>By: Top 4 vs Rest of England: Is the Gap Widening? &#124; Soccerlens - Football News Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Â£26 million, more than enough to finance a squad that could return at the first time of asking. Yesterday&#039;s major shock in the Carling Cup, coupled with a few massive surprises in years gone by should stifle the claim that the underdog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Â£26 million, more than enough to finance a squad that could return at the first time of asking. Yesterday&#8217;s major shock in the Carling Cup, coupled with a few massive surprises in years gone by should stifle the claim that the underdog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KingOfZamunda</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingOfZamunda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raj makes a very good point and Fergie made no mistake in putting on the kids last night, the whole exercise was designed to give th juniors &#039;senior&#039; action, the only problem was that they weren&#039;t up to it or underestimated the difficulty of the task (Coventry, like many other lower division visitors will inevitably turn up looking to scalp us and so they did). At least starting with Carrick, with Brum in mind still, as Ahmed Bilal puts it makes no sense. The implication being that we are firing on all cylinders on all fornts hence starting with as many senior players as possible? No, for United the Carling Cup is a &#039;run-out&#039; tournament for us, if we win it in the process then fair do&#039;s but nothing more guys, so don&#039;t be getting too strung up over this defeat, bares nothing on the season apart from losing out on the opportunity to play the youngsters or injury &#039;returnees&#039;. It in fac frees up the fixture list and allows for more effort to be put into the other three, the league, champs league and FA cup. And full circle,Fergie made no mistake and made a point of not making any excuses for the team last night. Another case of sensational article heading to grab traffic... Still no response from Ahmed Bilal about Giggs&#039;s floater in for Tevez&#039;s first in retaliation to his assertion that Giggs is holding back the team with Scholes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raj makes a very good point and Fergie made no mistake in putting on the kids last night, the whole exercise was designed to give th juniors &#8216;senior&#8217; action, the only problem was that they weren&#8217;t up to it or underestimated the difficulty of the task (Coventry, like many other lower division visitors will inevitably turn up looking to scalp us and so they did). At least starting with Carrick, with Brum in mind still, as Ahmed Bilal puts it makes no sense. The implication being that we are firing on all cylinders on all fornts hence starting with as many senior players as possible? No, for United the Carling Cup is a &#8216;run-out&#8217; tournament for us, if we win it in the process then fair do&#8217;s but nothing more guys, so don&#8217;t be getting too strung up over this defeat, bares nothing on the season apart from losing out on the opportunity to play the youngsters or injury &#8216;returnees&#8217;. It in fac frees up the fixture list and allows for more effort to be put into the other three, the league, champs league and FA cup. And full circle,Fergie made no mistake and made a point of not making any excuses for the team last night. Another case of sensational article heading to grab traffic&#8230; Still no response from Ahmed Bilal about Giggs&#8217;s floater in for Tevez&#8217;s first in retaliation to his assertion that Giggs is holding back the team with Scholes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hustler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hustler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man Utd used their third string to play this game..and the other supposedly big three (arsenal, liverpoo, chelsea) had some first timers in their squad for the cup tie...

this would have been my tem to face coventry and this is the second squad which do not have regular starters in the UNited squad...let me know if Coventry would have still beaten us with this team

Kuscak

Oshea
Brown
Evans
Simpson

Park
Hargreaves
Anderson
Nani

Dong
Saha



I believe our third string just happened to play a very bad game...which does not indicate our future is bleak...thats rubbish... Lets have this conversation in April next year when we count the trophies that each of the big 4 have won...we will see how big an impact these so called second squad of the big 4 will have at that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man Utd used their third string to play this game..and the other supposedly big three (arsenal, liverpoo, chelsea) had some first timers in their squad for the cup tie&#8230;</p>
<p>this would have been my tem to face coventry and this is the second squad which do not have regular starters in the UNited squad&#8230;let me know if Coventry would have still beaten us with this team</p>
<p>Kuscak</p>
<p>Oshea<br />
Brown<br />
Evans<br />
Simpson</p>
<p>Park<br />
Hargreaves<br />
Anderson<br />
Nani</p>
<p>Dong<br />
Saha</p>
<p>I believe our third string just happened to play a very bad game&#8230;which does not indicate our future is bleak&#8230;thats rubbish&#8230; Lets have this conversation in April next year when we count the trophies that each of the big 4 have won&#8230;we will see how big an impact these so called second squad of the big 4 will have at that time.</p>
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