Comments on: Farewell (but not too well!) galácticos and erráticos; enter the new order http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/ Football News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Predictions for 2008 – Spanish grapes picks of the British bunch http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-74326 Predictions for 2008 – Spanish grapes picks of the British bunch Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:31:40 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-74326 [...] a berth at Real Madrid; players such as Guti and Raúl continue as vestiges of a past generation, whilst the new generation of stars has no room for such cantera flops as Raúl Bravo and Pavón. Promising youngsters like Granero, Mata, Soldado and Bueno have either departed the Madrid club or [...] [...] a berth at Real Madrid; players such as Guti and Raúl continue as vestiges of a past generation, whilst the new generation of stars has no room for such cantera flops as Raúl Bravo and Pavón. Promising youngsters like Granero, Mata, Soldado and Bueno have either departed the Madrid club or [...]

]]> By: What is Real Madrid’s strongest starting XI? | Soccerlens - Football News Blog http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-61353 What is Real Madrid’s strongest starting XI? | Soccerlens - Football News Blog Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:50:15 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-61353 [...] times — the quality of “reserve” players such as Metzelder comes in stark contrast to the Raúl Bravo, Pavón and Mejia era. Perhaps the lack of a first-team is in fact a strong point of the team — the squad is massively [...] [...] times — the quality of “reserve” players such as Metzelder comes in stark contrast to the Raúl Bravo, Pavón and Mejia era. Perhaps the lack of a first-team is in fact a strong point of the team — the squad is massively [...]

]]> By: beaveraldinho http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-55330 beaveraldinho Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:40:33 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-55330 reyes didn't go to madrid due to them being tight with there money. same as chivu. robben is a long shot and now they just got rejected by milan again for kaka. maybe there only hope is to make a quick large bid for ricardo quaresma? reyes didn’t go to madrid due to them being tight with there money. same as chivu. robben is a long shot and now they just got rejected by milan again for kaka. maybe there only hope is to make a quick large bid for ricardo quaresma?

]]> By: avrv http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54541 avrv Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:48:51 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54541 Chivu has an agent who is as close to being mafioso as possible. Good riddance. I think we're well-covered in defense, but Pepe seems overpriced. I highly doubt Metzelder will be reduced to a bit-part player, we'll essentially have 3 center-halves, Pepe, Metzelder and Cannavaro. Cannavaro will be 34 years old and recently admitted he only expects to play about 2/3rd of the matches. Sergio Ramos can be called into the center when necessary but Metzelder will play quite often, I have no doubt. We need to sign either Reyes or Robben, preferably both, because we're lacking on the left side. Robinho and Higuain can both play on the right; in fact I think Robinho is better on the right than on the left, but due to circumstances has spent the last 2 seasons on the left side. In the center of the pitch we have Gago, Guti, Granero, Diarra, de la Red, and Emerson. No one at the level of a Cesc or Kaka etc, except perhaps Guti on one of his infrequent good days, but a lot of potential there in Gago, Granero, Diarra and de la Red. I would prefer not to break the bank and to put the pressure and responsibility on them to step up. Up front, Raul is dead weight, unless he miraculously re-finds his form of 4+ seasons ago. Highly unlikely. But with RVN, who is an absolutely incredible player, Soldado who will be a top class understudy, Saviola who I think could turn out to be the signing of the summer, and Robinho/Higuain to step in when necessary I think we're also well covered there. I would also like to see Baptista brought back, he is an under-rated player who can be used in many types of circumstances. In terms of backs I think we're the strongest team in the world in terms of right backs with Sergio Ramos, Cicinho, Michel Salgado (who may leave) and Miguel Torres. The left back position could be a problem, with only Miguel Torres (who is naturally right-footed although played left back very well last season) and Marcelo possibilities there. The current squad doesn't have the names that Barcelona, or some other teams have, but I think it's quite well-compensated and has a lot of quality. It also has a lot of untapped potential. It's up to Schuster to make it work but if it does I don't think it will be the cakewalk Barcelona fans expect it to be. They were talking the exact same way last year... :) Chivu has an agent who is as close to being mafioso as possible. Good riddance.

I think we’re well-covered in defense, but Pepe seems overpriced. I highly doubt Metzelder will be reduced to a bit-part player, we’ll essentially have 3 center-halves, Pepe, Metzelder and Cannavaro. Cannavaro will be 34 years old and recently admitted he only expects to play about 2/3rd of the matches. Sergio Ramos can be called into the center when necessary but Metzelder will play quite often, I have no doubt.

We need to sign either Reyes or Robben, preferably both, because we’re lacking on the left side. Robinho and Higuain can both play on the right; in fact I think Robinho is better on the right than on the left, but due to circumstances has spent the last 2 seasons on the left side.

In the center of the pitch we have Gago, Guti, Granero, Diarra, de la Red, and Emerson. No one at the level of a Cesc or Kaka etc, except perhaps Guti on one of his infrequent good days, but a lot of potential there in Gago, Granero, Diarra and de la Red. I would prefer not to break the bank and to put the pressure and responsibility on them to step up.

Up front, Raul is dead weight, unless he miraculously re-finds his form of 4+ seasons ago. Highly unlikely. But with RVN, who is an absolutely incredible player, Soldado who will be a top class understudy, Saviola who I think could turn out to be the signing of the summer, and Robinho/Higuain to step in when necessary I think we’re also well covered there. I would also like to see Baptista brought back, he is an under-rated player who can be used in many types of circumstances.

In terms of backs I think we’re the strongest team in the world in terms of right backs with Sergio Ramos, Cicinho, Michel Salgado (who may leave) and Miguel Torres. The left back position could be a problem, with only Miguel Torres (who is naturally right-footed although played left back very well last season) and Marcelo possibilities there.

The current squad doesn’t have the names that Barcelona, or some other teams have, but I think it’s quite well-compensated and has a lot of quality. It also has a lot of untapped potential. It’s up to Schuster to make it work but if it does I don’t think it will be the cakewalk Barcelona fans expect it to be. They were talking the exact same way last year… :)

]]> By: GOONER10 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54534 GOONER10 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:49:30 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54534 REDONDO, you talk about the last player that arsenal brought through the youth system, justin hoyte. to be honest hoyte is just as good as torres. also, at least the arsenal players spend a good bit of time at arsenal before becoming finished articles, for example cesc and merida both joined arsenal at 15 (correct me if im wrong). what arsenal do is not wrong, but they could be seen as making a few mistakes. in arsenal's team, hoyte is the only player that was in the arsenal youth system. however ashley cole was a product, as was david bentley(on fringes of england team), and steve sidwell who now plays for chelsea. Compared to real, arsenal dont have the money to spend on players who are nearly at their peak, so they pay little for future stars and groom them to arsenal's style of play. one of your better arguments, but still so much up real's ass. REDONDO,
you talk about the last player that arsenal brought through the youth system, justin hoyte. to be honest hoyte is just as good as torres. also, at least the arsenal players spend a good bit of time at arsenal before becoming finished articles, for example cesc and merida both joined arsenal at 15 (correct me if im wrong). what arsenal do is not wrong, but they could be seen as making a few mistakes. in arsenal’s team, hoyte is the only player that was in the arsenal youth system. however ashley cole was a product, as was david bentley(on fringes of england team), and steve sidwell who now plays for chelsea. Compared to real, arsenal dont have the money to spend on players who are nearly at their peak, so they pay little for future stars and groom them to arsenal’s style of play.
one of your better arguments, but still so much up real’s ass.

]]> By: Spiral Architect http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54525 Spiral Architect Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:58:40 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54525 Hugo, well done mate i think it was a good article with some good responses to the comments. I don't think people understand that if Arsenal were to rely on a 'pure' youth policy i.e. take players from around North London & develop them, they would get nowhere coz they would be competing with half a dozen other London clubs that play in the Premiership. People miss the point that what Arsenal does very well is to take youth from anywhere & mould it into greatness. Ahmed, this might be a starting parameter for 'Who's Youth Policy is better?' if it hasn't been mentioned already. Real Madrid started this policy of 'Los Galacticos' which then became a by-word for over-priced & underperforming players. I'd like to calculate, in financial terms, the amount of money spent for players per number of trophies won by Real Madrid since they started the 'Galacticos' policy. That's 2 La Liga trophies plus a CL trophy for about £150 million for all the major players at least. So that's £50 million per trophy. Pretty expensive. Compare that with this gem - 'the Arsenal defence that set a new record after going ten consecutive games without conceding a goal en route to the UEFA Champions League 2005-06 final against FC Barcelona, cost Arsenal less than £5m to assemble.' Now, to be fair Real Madrid have an awesome marketing machine that makes up the cost deficit in ratio to the results. My point is, if Arsenal had such resources they would have done 10 times better than Madrid. Hugo, well done mate i think it was a good article with some good responses to the comments. I don’t think people understand that if Arsenal were to rely on a ‘pure’ youth policy i.e. take players from around North London & develop them, they would get nowhere coz they would be competing with half a dozen other London clubs that play in the Premiership.

People miss the point that what Arsenal does very well is to take youth from anywhere & mould it into greatness.
Ahmed, this might be a starting parameter for ‘Who’s Youth Policy is better?’ if it hasn’t been mentioned already.

Real Madrid started this policy of ‘Los Galacticos’ which then became a by-word for over-priced & underperforming players. I’d like to calculate, in financial terms, the amount of money spent for players per number of trophies won by Real Madrid since they started the ‘Galacticos’ policy. That’s 2 La Liga trophies plus a CL trophy for about £150 million for all the major players at least. So that’s £50 million per trophy. Pretty expensive. Compare that with this gem – ‘the Arsenal defence that set a new record after going ten consecutive games without conceding a goal en route to the UEFA Champions League 2005-06 final against FC Barcelona, cost Arsenal less than £5m to assemble.’

Now, to be fair Real Madrid have an awesome marketing machine that makes up the cost deficit in ratio to the results. My point is, if Arsenal had such resources they would have done 10 times better than Madrid.

]]> By: Hugo Steckelmacher http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54519 Hugo Steckelmacher Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:30:53 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54519 The last player to come through Arsenal's youth system: Justin Hoyte. And I'm a little confused: you accuse ME of being concerned with big-name signings but then revoke my praise of Arsenal because they don't have the financial resources to compete for big-name players. Double standards.. The last player to come through Arsenal’s youth system: Justin Hoyte. And I’m a little confused: you accuse ME of being concerned with big-name signings but then revoke my praise of
Arsenal because they don’t have the financial resources to compete for big-name players. Double standards..

]]> By: Hugo Steckelmacher http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54517 Hugo Steckelmacher Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:29:45 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54517 The last player to come through Arsenal's youth system: Justin Hoyte. And I'm a little confused: you accuse ME of being concerned with big-name signings but then revoke my praise of The last player to come through Arsenal’s youth system: Justin Hoyte. And I’m a little confused: you accuse ME of being concerned with big-name signings but then revoke my praise of

]]> By: Hugo Steckelmacher http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54513 Hugo Steckelmacher Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:12:58 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54513 Tell me when I've advocated the signing of dream players? In fact I'm the one spouting disquisitions about NOT wasting time and resources on Kaká, Robben and Fabregas. Do you actually read what people say or do you begin with an interpretation which you superimpose on whatever comment might arise? Tell me when I’ve advocated the signing of dream players? In fact I’m the one spouting disquisitions about NOT wasting time and resources on Kaká, Robben and Fabregas. Do you actually read what people say or do you begin with an interpretation which you superimpose on whatever comment might arise?

]]> By: iqnadirshah http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54492 iqnadirshah Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:24:44 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/farewell-but-not-too-well-galacticos-and-erraticos-enter-the-new-order/2619/#comment-54492 The question is what happens to schuster and his dream team if they fail to play attractive football and win trophies? The president has already warned him. Next year at this time will schuster be still the man for Madrid? The question is what happens to schuster and his dream team if they fail to play attractive football and win trophies? The president has already warned him. Next year at this time will schuster be still the man for Madrid?

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