Dec
11
2007

Fabregas v Anderson - Who Is The Better Player?

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He is arguably the best player in the English premier League at the moment and certainly the best young player on English soil. He is 5’11’’, possesses a boyish face and an equally boyish charm but exhibits a very much mature character on the football pitch. He is the most crucial member of the most entertaining team in the Premiership and has already established himself as a key figure in his national football team.

You hardly need to be an cryptologist to decipher who the player in context is. Yes, it is one Francesc Fàbregas Soler, preferably called “Cesc”, who might be still only 20, but is already rated as one of the finest and most gifted footballers on the planet. So much so that this current Arsenal squad that oozes aestheticism from every pore is most dependent on him for inspiration and guidance.

A Catalan by birth, Cesc moved to Arsenal from FC Barcelona in the 2003 summer at a time when he was just over 16 years of age and scored on his second ever appearance in Arsenal colors, hitting one of the 5 goals that rampant Gunners stormed past Wolverhampton Wanderers in the Carling Cup.

Joy of CescCesc’s entry to the Arsenal first team in the Premiership in the 2004-2005 season was observed by most as a stop-gap measure for the absence of Patrick Vieira, Gilberto Silva and Edu but he soon transcended the bar and became the lynchpin of this exciting and young Arsenal squad that manager Arsene Wenger has so painfully and meticulously assembled and developed through a truly excellent youth system.

With Vieira’s departure in the summer of 2005, Ces was asked to play the midfield role and boy, didn’t the Spaniard play his part! Cesc was pulling the strings from the centre of the midfield as Arsenal strolled to the UEFA Champions League final in 2005-2006 only to be beaten by Barcelona in the final. Although Arsenal didn’t win any silverware, it was Fàbregas’ rise that set the tone.

Last season again Fàbregas was brilliant. More than anything, he became better with every game and at 20, he is already a full fledged Spanish international and is a regular first team player too in a squad that has loads of talent and quality in every department. Cesc again emerged as the best Arsenal player last season as Thierry Henry fell out Arsene Wenger (apparently) and fell out of the pitch due to injuries.

Compare Cesc with Anderson, the Brazilian Anderson who was signed by Manchester United for a staggering £17million from FC Porto in the summer and you do have a considerable amount of fodder for a debate. The 19-year old Anderson Luís de Abreu Oliveira made his first club football breakthrough at the Brazilian club Gremio but lasted only just 5 matches in the first team after spending years at the club’s youth academy.

Not that he turned out to be an ugly duckling or a very naughty boy but because that Portuguese giants Porto got so indulged by him that they decided to sign him, just as they had signed the Brazilian talent Diego, before the bigger clubs of Europe could hawk. That was in December 2005 and helped Porto win the domestic league. Next year too Anderson was celebrating another title victory but those celebrations were certainly decimated by the fact that he had missed five months of the season with injury.

anderson_cartoon_resized.jpgThis summer Sir Alex Ferguson and his money spinning Manchester United side got so interested in the player that a deal was as soon as (well, almost) as soon as the interest as conceived. And on the account of the performance displayed by the Brazilian, who is already a full-capped international for his nation that money doesn’t appear to have been wasted.

Anderson might not have made as many starts as a player with his reputation would have liked to but he has definitely had had his moments. Especially against Arsenal earlier this season when he was pitted against the best playmaker in the Premiership at the moment Cesc Fàbregas and dominated possession and midfield; to be honest, Anderson was better than his Spanish counterpart in the dual between Manchester United and Arsenal.

But Anderson’s best performance to date has come in Manchester United’s 4-0 win over relegation favorites Wigan Athletic at Old Trafford in October when he fashioned a brilliant through ball for Carlos Tevez to hit the back of the Wigan net. Anderson has been quite decent, if not good, in the UEFA Champions League although it must be said that he is yet to score his first goal in Europe for Manchester United.

So who is the better player between Fàbregas and Anderson?

Both are of about the same age and both play in a similar position. At the moment of course, Cesc is by far the better one. With his playmaking prowess and boyish enthusiasm mingling well with great maturity, Cesc has become one of the best in European football. But Anderson is just starting on the voyage and is anticipated to come big in the next couple of seasons. Several football pundits say that Anderson has been signed as a long term replacement for Paul Scholes and that tells really.

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Who do you think is the better player and why?

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Discussion - 158 Responses

  1. Come on there is no comparison yet. Cesc is acknowledged already around the world as the most complete player there is. He makes goals by the ton, he scores goals in all class of matches, he defends better than most defenders, and he is 100% competetive, and he is still 20 !!!!!!

    Anderson…..he just cost a lot of money and can run a lot , and can do the Manure Clog Dance, but anything else he is very average.

  2. Are you insane? How dare you compare Fabregas to anderson? Anderson is just an over-rated expensive hip hop ManU boy. You can compare him with Theo and not Fab4.

    In Fabregas we trust

  3. Anderson, a year younger, is about a year behind in development to Fabregas. That year means goals. Anderson has to add a cutting edge to his outstanding play in midfield, which Fabregas has done this season to spectacular effect. It is a pity that Michael Essien will be missing against Arsenal at the Emirates this weekend, because it would have been great watching Fabregas do battle against Essien, a true world great. On the other hand, Anderson against Gerrard at Anfield should be great fun.

    Verdict: Fabregas is ahead at present, Anderson is coming up fast on the rails. Watch him in about 18 months time.

  4. I’m going to say Fabregas, because I support Arsenal. A United fan will say Anderson for the same reason. Although a well written piece..What’s the point?

  5. Anderson will eventually be a much better player than cecily fibreglass,who incidentally has a very childish & bitchy attitude.Get with the strength & fly emirates to the beautiful north east of England.

  6. surly Aderson!
    i have seen both anderson and cesc very carefully,howevre cesc simple playing style, couldn,t make me better of andy,his(cesc) individual techniq is questinable to me, he is only result oreainted player,
    if you see andy, his talent to entertain and to get result is so intersting, even more as the time goes on, so as my evaluation i prefer anderson.

  7. Why raise such a senseless argument .. if you play for manyoo, you are immediately the best in the world … cantona, beckham, rooney — best players in the world bar none .. anderson — currently best player in the world .. end of argument. Or you could choose to see beyond the mist of the mind-boggling hype that is manyoo, and realise that anderson is just a 2-bit player dressed up in bling as a world class player … and he is not fit to clean Cesc’s shoes.

  8. Steve - love the sense of irony in referring to Fabregas as “bitchy and childish”, and then calling him “cecily fibreglass”.

    …at least I hope you were being ironic?!

  9. I have always tried to be nice to other supporters specially arsenal, trying to look at football objectively apparently is not an option. We have idiots talking rubbish day in and out on the various forums, and lots of these idiots are sadly from my the United front too!!!! When some one opens a topic for argument they are not putting down laws, they are at best putting forward their opinions and asking you for yours.. Obviously most English do not have the decency to post a well thought out comment. Most of these are filled with Manures, arsers and scousers for comments… I think its high time you people started behaving on these forums. I am from Asia and don’t get to watch a match live, the least i can get is a honest educated opinion by fans who actually watch games. But people have to act like imbeciles piss all over each other call clubs managers and players names….

    As far who is the better player, I think all of us agree that its to early to compare and right now Cesc is the better player however much it hurts me to accept it….. You guys invented English i hope you can make much better use of it in the future!!!

  10. Save the arguing and check out the Premier League Opta Stats…..Fabregas 800-odd completed passes, top midfielder in the country, the stats dont lie…by the way where is Anderson in the list? Not even in the top 6….need I say more?

  11. I’m sorry, but I find this article very biased and poor.
    If it did not contain a player so dear to my heart, I would not have bothered commenting.

    Cesc is better. (at the moment).
    Anderson have the potential to outshine him though. Give him time. Remember, he is also only 19 years old.

  12. Cesc is 5′11″ ! Never realised he was that tall, thought he was scholes like (midget ;))

    Today Cesc is far better, his first touch, vision and short passing range is incredible, probably the best in Europe (up there with Deco). This season he’s also had his share of goals, which is clearly what he was doing this summer!

    However, I think Anderson has loads of potential, but at the moment its only that. I would say Anderson appears to have more energy and does a lot more defensively than Fabregas, which may or may not be a good thing, depending on what you want. Arsenal play a system that allows Cesc to sit in the circle alot, without tracking all the way back, whereas both of United’s CMF tend to be around the 18 yard line doing hard work all match. Anderson is also a much better dribbler, he’s done more individual runs in his 10 matches for United than Cesc’s whole career. That’s not a criticism, he’s also done more runs than Scholes in his whole career :)

    It’ll be intersting to see what happens to Anderson, and Cesc really. I think part of the reason that things have been so good for Arsenal this season has been thew quality of the centre of midfield, where their one-twos and one touch passing can baffle anyone. However, with winter coming up teh pitches tend to degrade, and playing along the ground becomes a lot tougher. On a snowy day in the mud I think I’d take anderson, but on any other day I’d have Cesc, hands down.

    Revisit this debate in 2 years!

  13. This is a very dicy one but then judging from the present,I will say Fab is better but that is because this is his third year playing at the highest level of the English game.He was given the role and made to feel it was his own so he relaxed,took his time and made it truely his own.He did not turn magic over night.Lets wait and see what this boy from Gremio will turn out to be when he has been running that midfield for two seasons.He has already shown what he is capable of and I am sure he will grow from strenght to srenght.I say bring it on in 2 years and then we will see. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIK OF MANCUNIA !!!

  14. December 11, 2007Harry Barracuda

    Fabregas wins hands down; Anderson is not even close in the ability to influence an entire game. He’s more of a workhorse and does more to break play up than create it.

    Only the most stupid man ure fan (and there are lots of them) would seriously pick Anderson if they had to choose between the two.

  15. Fabregas is better

  16. Ander Who?????????

  17. oh thats silly,funny and poinless question,how can you compare one of the best midfilders in the world to brazilian overrated piece of shit?:)))))))
    lmao

  18. How can any of you plastic manc idiots say that Anderson will be a better player in a years time. Do you all have crystal balls?

  19. Come on guys everyone knows Anderson is better!!! Well better at whinging, moaning and diving! He was a total joke at the Emirates everytime an Arsenal player got fouled he was making gestures of diving. Constantly moaning to the ref and when he got fouled by Cesc and started crying Cesc’s reaction was the funniest thing I have seen in footy since TH14 made Danny Mills look like a C***

  20. I am a die hard Manu fan and still I admit Fab has been better so far. However it’s a shame Arsenal fans talk so much rubbish about Anderson when they should know that he was more influential than Cesc in the last encounter. Cesc has played so much in the Premier league and you cannot compare him to Anderson who has just started. Someone said about stats, how can you compare them again with such a difference in the no of appearances in the league.
    To me there are both excellent and we have to open the debate in 2years atleast. I respect Cesc but I think they will both battle for best player of the world in the next couple of years.(Provided Ronaldo’s form dip ;o)

  21. Please
    Don’t even think to compare the wonderful mid-fielder cisc with the unknown kid from latin. Don’t forget the marvilous Fab.

  22. I´m a Man Utd fan. I would say Fabregas is simpley the better for now. His pure worldclass, no doubt about it! But remember that Anderson has played like 10 games for Manchester United and he is already Sir.Alex first pick for midfield with hargreaves. Okey, Scholes out with injury and Carrick not in the form of his life. But let´s face it Man Utd are ONE point behind Arsenal in the PL and without defeat in CL and Anderson has played a big part in that.

    Fabregas is the better but i´m more then happy with the Anderson we have got at the moment. Will he be compared with Fabregas in the future? We can only hope! Time will tell

  23. Titus Bramble v Rio Ferdinand, who is the best, discuss.

  24. Blimey ‘will I am’ an honest Manure fan…it must be near Christmas or U have been on the amber liquid?

    Well done anyway. All joking apart, Cesc is probably in the top 3 known midfielders in the world at present. Anderson, from what ive seen is going to be very good but its hard to tell so early, but he has the potential.

    Note though sunshine that AFC lost because when we had Fabs, Hleb,VP, Diaby, Flams all out we only had more kids to play in their place…Manure lose Rooney or Ronaldo and they simply poach another £20-£30 mill superstar from someone else. Thats how our football has been for 20 years or so. One day, perhaps soner rather than later Arsene will have the money to compete with the three big byuers of success in the UK, but for now he has to be the best there is using his talent only!

  25. How on earth can you compare Fabregas and Anderson????
    Anderson is a piece of body mass but with no matured intelligence when it comes to marshalling a midfield and giving killer passes that breaks up defences….i ferguson shouldbuy him videos of cesc fabregas to watch if he will ever match his class

  26. pointless argument… come on… do remember that brazilian piece of shit kept ur so called world class midfielder quiet the entire 90mins the last time de mancs took on arsenal.. in emirates if i may add.. at de moment fabre is better… only bcos he has had more time 2 develop… look at this in 2years n im quite sure itll b anderson on top… anderson is physically more capable… more skilled individually n will eventually be able to thread around passes n boss de midfield de way fabre does… except better.. ive read a couple of pundits comparing anderson to the young ronaldhino.. n like it a not… ronaldhino at his peak is much more of a classy player compared to fabre…

  27. [will I am]
    “Will he be compared with Fabregas in the future? We can only hope! Time will tell”

    He most definitely will. only, it will be vs Fabregas of Barcelona and not Fabregas of Arsenal.

    [GunnerPete]
    “and they simply poach another £20-£30 mill superstar from someone else”
    Would this be morally different from poaching a Barca up and coming youngster from their academy?

  28. Too all the guys that that claim that Anderson is a piece of shit…
    Have you ever seen him play? (Emirates game doesn’t quite count because you will be obviously biasedly upset with him for dominating Cesc). Do yourselves a favour and watch him for a game or two before giving your comments.

  29. December 11, 2007emilio calleja

    when anderson turns it this century’s PELE, tevez becomes the new MARADONA, nani transforms into the new best left winger and ronaldo keeps improving all other teams will be crapping themselves b4 matches. in the near future all other team’s ambition will be not to be beaten by united by more than 4 goals. instead of the pre match team talk b4 the game english teams will invite the archbishop of cantenbury for an hour or two of pray, italian teams will go visit the pope and those who dont believe in a god or something else will start believing that there has to be someone up there.

  30. December 11, 2007emilio calleja

    anderson the best

  31. December 11, 2007babiako-greece

    well, let me tell u one thing some of u bubble-heads out there … when they faced each other, andersnon was the better player … way better … that means a lot … above all, he has the psychological advantage over fabregas … and will always have it from now on … what’s more, he is a brazilian and not a loser spaniard …

  32. Ah Ive missed these kind of topics on soccerlens for quite a while now.something that will stir up some REAL football debate.but arsenal fans never cease to amaze me.how can u say anderson is shit after hes played ONLY 8 games?the plain fact that he is being compared with fabregas should say a lot.i sense a touch of jelousy and maybe even….whats it?….fear in the gunner fans of our dear boy from brazil anderson.there is no doubt that fabregas is better…for NOW.fabregas has been playing in the prem for what 3,4 years?compared to andersons 8 games?anderson did dominate the midfield at arsenal.only arsenal fans fail to see this fact.anderson has potential and he has loads of it.he has much more pace and is stronger than cesc and is a better dribbler.cesc is better at shooting and threading passes.anderson right now i feel is restricting himself to defensive work although he has played some terrific balls through as well as spread play very well and with urgency.once he releasing himself we will see the real anderson.

  33. hahaha, If Ferguson said Carrick was better than Cesc would you believe him?

  34. this takes me back to da Henry and Van nistelrooy argument wat them gunners gota to say now so let dis brazlian wonder kid dazzle ,dribble,thread though balls,nutmeg and most importantly take man u to da top

  35. Bob, you speak sense man!!

    Anyway I really do not think Fabregas is a very good player because is is not a complete midfielder - no tackling and no Ronaldo-type skill - while Anderson has many more qualities and he just needs to develop them. Next year this will not be a question.

    Karl, I believe it was you who said (a while ago) that Hargeaves and Anderson would make a great midfield pairing in the future. Right? Well, it probably happened sooner than you expected.

  36. Andrei, yeah, I have to be honest, it is happening much sooner than I expected. I do admit however that Anderson still have lots to learn. But he’s learning fast.
    I don’t think he has Scholes’ spot just yet, but will surely have it during next season.

    This comparison of Cesc and Anderson should at best be done at the end of next season.

  37. I am a United fan.there is really no question right now.Fabregas is easily in the top 3 young talents in the world and comfortably one of the top central midfielders in the world.One of the big things lacking from his game was goals and that he has added this season.All that remains is that ability to arrive in the box ala Scholes (which has already been evident and can only improve) So he is for all purposes a complete midfielder almost the best midfielder in the world.

    Anderson on the other hand for me has been the biggest young prospect for the last year or so.He is IMHO the most talented of all United players (yes inc rooney and ronaldo; more latin skill and technique than rooney,passing ability than ronaldo) I am very surprised to see him do so well in the central midfield slot as I never imagined he would do the dirty work part of it.and so I am thrilled as I now see him capable of being as good as Fabregas.

  38. im a man u fan and i have got to say dat fabregas is better by a long long way… he is simply untouchble he is an acomplished player at the moment and anderson wil gradually get there but now no way not A CHANCE!!! anderson needs to improve his goal ratio.

  39. There is no doubt that Fabregas is better at the moment but Anderson is showing that he will be there soon.

  40. December 11, 2007stupid comparison

    what a silly debate. Anderson is on his first season in a new country with a new team, he turned 19 a few weeks ago so he is a year behind Fabregas already.

    As for your opening paragraph:

    “He is arguably the best player in the English premier League at the moment and certainly the best young player on English soil…possesses a boyish face and an equally boyish charm but exhibits a very much mature character on the football pitch. He is the most crucial member of the most entertaining team in the Premiership and has already established himself as a key figure in his national football team.”

    Surely you must be talking about Cristiano Ronaldo, officially 2nd best player in the world, playing for the champions who have one of the most thrilling attacking squads in world football?

  41. [#40]
    I also thought he originally refered to Ronaldo. Confused me a bit in the beginning as to why Ronaldo would be in a Cesc/Anderson article?!? Go figure…

  42. COMPARE THEM IN 5 YEARS TIME! Anderson will be the better player.. It’s very silly to compare right now as Fabregas has a massive amount of experience at the moment compared to our man Anderson!

    But Anderson is stronger, faster, can pick out the most difficult pass (as can Cesc) all he needs is games.. but since he’s come in to United’s team.. he has been dominating and his form has been excellent!

    I hope both players stay in the prem for a very long time to come!

  43. In two or three seasons, if he doesn’t suffer another serious injury, Anderson will win de Golden Ball. Ferguson needs to put him more up front for him to shine. He’s just amasing when fit and confidente.

    At this moment Fábregas is better, but the spaniard doesn’t have more potential than Anderson. It’s just a matter of time for him to become the World’s Best Player.

  44. u guys must be outta ur mind if ur comparing Fab with anderson…. u are trying to tell me that fab was not influential against man utd?? from what i know he was the one who scored the equaliser and was constantly attacking with you guys sticking way back in ur nest trying to salvage a point from that game lol… lmfao… anderson??? he aint bad but he isnt in the same class as fabregas… i liked one of the guys comments as in Alex Ferguson should by anderson a dvd showing him passes that fabregas makes…

  45. Fabregas, obviously! What kind of a stupid question was that? You’ve just an article like the “Gerrard Vs. Lampard, who’s better?”, we’ll never hear the end of this.

    And someone said Ronaldo is better than Cesc. I’d say the many reasons why he isn’t, but I don’t have that kind of time.

  46. December 11, 2007Liam O'Kelly

    These are both in my top 10 favourite players in the world. I support United but I still think that Fabregas is a Fantastic player (which is a whole lot more than I can say for Gerrard) and Anderson has been great since he broke into the first team.

    I think Anderson is playing a lot like Cesc did last season and when he gains confidence and starts to really attack players and shoot like in his youtube videos he will be a better all round player than Fabregas.

    I think Anderson could be a very versatile player as well. I obviously want to see him in the middle of the field dictating play but I could see him doing a great job on the left wing or as a supporting striker, he even said at the start of the season he feels that his best position is left-back! Fabregas is a better player right now though and it remains to be seen if Anderson can live up to his potential(which is immense)

  47. Yawn!!! rubbish article everyone knows fabregas is better, anderson may be a good player in years to come but fabregas will only get better too. So in my opinion fabregas will always be ahead of anderson no question

  48. Anderson for me thank you very much and i support Southampton

  49. You must being bored or something to write this article.
    I’m a United fan and I say Cesc is better for now.Simply as that.But in two years time,who knows?
    You can’t put them in the same sentence now just like you can’t put Fabregas and Ronaldo too.

  50. I would take Anderson

  51. Anderson is the most complete football player

  52. Both gifted but taking everything into account, i would take Anderson in my team

  53. Fabregas is one hell of a player but so is Anderson and Anderson is younger and better

  54. No comparison whatsoever, Anderson anytime

  55. Anderson was brought to the premiership as the best young player in the world and i would agree with every letter of that sentence.

  56. December 11, 2007Knowledge is Power

    First 10 games for both players when they signed for their respectable teams i would take Anderson no question about it,

  57. December 11, 2007Sir Alex Ferguson

    Youse dont know what youse are bloody well talkin’ aboot, wee Cesc is the best by a country mile. Hoots.

  58. ANDERSON ANDERSON ANDERSON

  59. I think its too early to be comparing the 2 as weve played a handful of games so far so i think we should judge who is better at the end of season, but if i was to say who was the better player when the 2 faced each other i would go with Anderson.

  60. Ok this was gonna come up sooner or later and i am glad we finally have this debate, Well what quality 2 young players we have here but i would say its unfair to Anderson as its his first season and also a south american coming to the premiership and being compared to someone whos been here a long time…
    I am surprised at how quickly Anderson has adapted to the premiership and although it was a hard decision but if you was to ask me who is a better player after 10 games i would say Cesc, if you was to ask me who is a better player overall i would say Anderson

  61. Cesc all the way

  62. people say that fabregas is better because anderson has only played this season but if we base it on this season alone i think anderson has been as good if not better. he is just lackin in the goal scoring department, he has all the ability to go on a be a lot better than anderson with his skill an technique when dribbling, alround he will be a better player, and i think he will become the best in the world, even better than ronaldo because of his natural ability to play the game with such a mature head. Btw the article was the most ridculously biased piece ive ever read to say he is the best player in the league is a joke, you have forgot gerrard and ronaldo who have definalty had better seasons as few wud argue. fabregas has won nothin yet remember.

  63. football = anderson

  64. Defintley Cesc, Anderson isn’t strong enough on the ball and playing passes, plus he can’t carry a team like Cesc

  65. I would have Anderson purely on football terms, OK Cesc has scored a lot of goals whereas Anderson hasnt scored any as yet but they midfielders and Anderson’s play in the midfield of Utd is the playmaker, I have never seen a kid so confident on the ball, he has all the attributes to be the best player in the world, Pace is Ferrari Speed, Passing Accuracy is a snipers accuracy, Skills well he isnt Ronaldinho just yet but has the skills and the Vision is second to none.. Yes he hasnt scored any goals but just because Cesc has scored more doesnt make him a better player cos if that was the case then Cesc is better than Gerrard,Scholes,Giggs,Hleb…
    For me its a close one, both are excellent young players and both will go on to be top players world wide but i would have Cesc as the runner up to Anderson

  66. December 11, 2007Faith Akande

    it is very outrageous for someone to compare Cesc to Anderson. the year Anderson reaches the kind of form Cesc is in and will continue in,Anderson will be 3o years,

  67. Defintly Fabregas so far we havent really seen enough of Anderson yet but he looks like a pretty good player who could do well at United

  68. Here^s one for you all :-

    RYAN BABEL(LFC) WILL BECOME BETTER THAN BOTH OF THEM !!

  69. Fabregas is good . . certainly “one” of the best players in the prem, but not “the” best.

    enter - Gerard / Terry / Drogba / Torres / Rooney
    Giggs / R.Ferdinand / Reina / Cech . . .

    he is good . . . but not that good.

  70. lol, Fabregas is better and everyone knows that. Tricky post - engages people to comment, I need to remember that ;)

  71. ‘Anderson has been signed as a long term replacement for Paul Scholes and that tells really’

    That does. Cesc was signed to replace Vieira at 16, Anderson was 20. Cesc is now 20 and is a first team player. Cesc is better now and will only get better, and with United constantly spending, you dont even know who they’ll buy next and Anderson might not even be needer right now. Cesc keeps the Premier League leaders going, whil Anderson only has his moments.

    He might turn out like Dribril Cissé, who has his moments too, but failed in the and.

  72. it’s definately stirred debate

    clearly fabregas is the better player as things stand.

    however to call anderson ‘overrated’ and shit is even more idiotic than to suggest he is at present better than fabregas. only people who haven’t watched him, seen his positional sense and the quality of his distribution would say that.

    so fabregas world class
    anderson potential world class

    can’t we just leave it at that and all go home and chillax?

  73. You can just hear so much nonsense here sometimes. I would like to know who acknowledges “cesc to be the most the most complete player in the world”. Thats the first time i have heard that. Cesc is an incredible player but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Never have i heard that cesc is the most complete player around. Im an arsenal fan mate but i also like to be honest. Cesc isnt the best player in the world yet. He still has a way to go

  74. This is the most biased article I’ve read in a while but never mind. I don’t think its fair to compare these two players at this stage. Fabregas is an amazing player and the amount of goals he is scoring completes him but to say Anderson is over-rated when he has played roughly 7 full games is ridiculous. Especially when in these 7 games he’s impressed pundits and Ferguson alike. People that have wrote that aren’t football fans simply biased gunners. Cesc is better at the moment. Anderson still needs to prove himself. Ask me again in 5 years.

  75. kaka/ronaldo/messi/rooney >>>>>>>>>> fabregas >> torres >> anderson/nani >> babel/walcott

  76. lolol … rooney > kaka > ronaldo > messi >>>>>>>>>>> fabregas > torres >>>>> anderson >> nani >> babel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walcott

  77. Of course you would find a topic like this on a Manc board…Anderson is NOWHERE near the skills of Fabregas. Anderson is overrated so far.

  78. They’re not the same type of central midfielder, right? Cesc’s a pure playmaker. Anderson’s more of the combative type. Over time, if Anderson lives up to the hype, I’d choose him. And I’m an Arsenal fan.

  79. I am a united fan. And i dont know why it is like this, but it seems like there is just no way a united fan can ever admit that a arsenal player is good. thats just childish! Fabregas is a much better player at the moment. he has proven how good he is over a period of time. the potential of anderson is great no doubt, but he is not fabregas class yet. Just see how arsenal do without him. so lets take the discussion again in a year or two.

  80. I am a relatively neutral observer. I don’t think there is any way anyone can think Anderson is better than Fabregas. Fabregas has absolutely everything you could want in a player. The amount of goals he has scored already this season is phenomenal for a midfield player. Combine that with his passing and positioning and you are talking about one of the best players in the world.

    Anderson has talent, there is no denying that. But Fabregas is miles ahead.

  81. Anderson is a big talent and he has surprised me with how good he is defensively. But the games I’ve seen he has never looked a goal-threat and never made an assist. At least Cesc always had many opportunites and ALWAYS puts his teammates through on clear goalchances something I have yet to see Anderson do. What Anderson got against Cesc is that he is quicker and propably stronger, simply he is more athletic.

    The only ones who would suggest that Anderson is better are very biased United supporters, all neutrals and even most United supportes knows Cesc at the moment is way better.

    And I don’t know if I agree Anderson bossed the midfield against Arsenal. He did absolutely nothing creatively and in the second half SAF had to sub him because he looked out of his depth (second half that is, first half he was good but not bossy).

  82. December 12, 2007anik_naga gooner

    Hey dont indulge these idiots. they talk of a few years time for anderson to overtake cesc, well by that time we can also say here in speculation that senderos will be better than ferdinand. Shut up red devils and accept that fab is better , you can say whatever you like WHEN or IF Anderson overtakes fabregas. cesc is better at this moment period

  83. I support Man Utd and at the moment this isn’t even a contest. Fab has this one hands down, but that is becuase he has been playing in Premier League for 4-5 season now and he is a superb player no doubt about that. He’d get into any team in the world full stop !!!

    But please “GROW UP” when calling Anderson a shit player, i think everyone that supports Man Utd is just excited that such a young player can come in and do such a good job and we haven’t missed Scholes which says a hell of a lot to me. Anderson in 2 or 3 years will be a better player for sure but no one can say if he will be as good as Fabregas.

    You all are like children slagging players off from other teams, can’t you just watch football and appreciate great players.

    Ps i’m not calling Anderson a great player yet just that he shows a hell of a lot of for the future and could be one day World Class.

  84. December 12, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    Fabragaes is better and will always be better enough said

  85. Liverpool_Fan

    You have a crystal Ball do you?

    Can’t make sweeping statements like that, you know nothing……… Grow up

  86. Do I detect fear from the Gunners?

    From (almost) all the comments I’ve read from non-Gunners, everybody admits that Cesc is the better player (at the moment). Why then still the hostility towards Anderson from the Arsenal fans? Is this because you can see yourself falling hard from the top spot? Or is it because your boy-wonder seems to be getting a new challenger?
    I’m actually excited. I see that in a couple of seasons time, this will be the ‘new’ Viera/Keane tussle.

  87. FFS Anderson has made at least 2 assists carlito. And the reason why anderson does not have so much assists is because he lies deeper and most of his passes are to the wings (see his passes to evra and brown in Derby County game where both ended up in goals). These passes are the passes he usually make. He makes few through balls, and only one of them ended up as a assist(tevez stunner v Wigan).
    As a United supporter i acknowledge Francesc Fabregas is better, but Anderson is up and coming and a year younger. Hopefully he can add goals to his game ala Scholes, which I believe he can.

  88. Liverpool_Fan, what about Gerrard?

  89. I think Cesc is better than Gerrard (at the moment, and in the future).

  90. :-)

  91. Chill lastsupper. I only said I never saw him make an assist. Looked up the statistics and he only got one assist in the leauge, so I simply must have missed that game. I acknowledged he is a big talent. Noone knows how Cesc will develop or how Anderson will develop, we will simply have to wait and see.

  92. Simply ask yourself this. How many United fans would be happy with a straight swap, Anderson for Fabregas? There wouldn’t be many that would turn it down. Would Arsenal fans like that swap?, I don’t think so.
    If you can be objective you’ll see that Cesc is a far superior player and that Anderson although having potential still has a lot to prove, a £17 million price tag to start with.

  93. I am a Machester United fan. I would not like a straight swap.
    Ken, I think you will be surprised at the result.

  94. I support man u, at the moment you have to say Fabregas because of his goal scoring ability, if Anderson could add goals to his game then there would not be much much between them.

  95. Both are fantastic players and will both be two of the best CM in the future. Right now we can all agree Fabregas is better on merit but when they came head to head Anderson was the better player. When Arsenal come to Old Trafford, If Anderson carrys on like this he will still be in the starting 11 and a goal along the line will boost his confidence so it will be interesting to see who comes on top then as Anderson would have better understanding of the english game and how United play.

    Arsenal and Man United should both be delighted to have these two talents because it could have been worse……it could have been Lucas(Who is he anyway?)

  96. Also what is the author on about. The best player and best young player in the premiership is Ronaldo. Fab is having the season of his life yet Ronaldo already has more goals and a similar amount of assists as him and he hasn’t even hit top form yet. Unless he has turned old which would be strange seeing as he is only 2 years older than Cesc.

  97. I don’t think either set of fans would want to swap. Cesc is better, but I think Utd fans are excited at the prospect of watching Anderson develop through the years. Instead of comparing them, lets just enjoy the football that each of them brings to their respective teams.

  98. Fabregas is very mature I mean just look at this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvlsEbcZq98&feature=related

    very very mature.

  99. December 12, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    I really dont care if you think cesc is better karl. I dont wanna compare Gerrard to anyone because he cant win. He has too much haters.

    But i would like to say i think Lucas Leiva is a better player than Anderson and Ryan Babel better than Nani.

  100. I cannot belive Arsenal fans are already concluding and ending the argumentive comparison and already naming ‘Cesc’ the better of the two. No duh a player who has been in the premier league for few season already and knows how to speak english is CURRENTLY (KEY WORD) better than someone who just came few months ago and doesn’t even know how to speak english. Give Anderson atleast 2 seasons as Cesc already has the experience in the Premier League and then make your conclusions. Not now. This article is just saying that in the near future we will have a star to look out for, and it is not telling people to say which one is the better player!

    Anderson has settled in really well. He’s only 19 but has shown great football qualities and knowledge, and everybody at Man United has been very pleased with his performances. He even outshone Cesc when Arsenal vers Man United this season. We took a bit of a risk with him but we saw the dividends now in that game and especially vs Wigan where he did assist. I read people’s comments about how he doesn’t assist? Well clearly they have not been watching him. There is more to football than goals FYI and if anyone has watched Anderson they will realize he does not even take shots on goal regularly because that is not what Man United has asked him to do. They have asked him to link the defence with the fowards and to create effective counter attacks (which is the dominate style of Man United). He has done exatly that and has done that with his amazing passing skills (look at the matchs vs wigan and dynamo kiev where he got man of the match) and he can also defend (much better than cesc who just chops players when they pass him).

    Overall, watch Anderson say in 18 months? Then compare him to Cesc and most prob you shall see very equal players if not Anderson being better. The only thing Anderson lacks is goals but that will surly come with time. Most prob next season. Look at Ronaldo. He didnt score much in the beggining. Now? He is joint top scorer of the Premier League and Champions League as i type this! Cesc did not score much aswell before, but he improved, so why cant Anderson? Time will tell us who is better. My money is on Anderson.

    This is another good article to read:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/tim_vickery/12/11/brazil.europe/1.html

  101. December 12, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    So the only thing to football is assists then we can talk about Gerrards 14 assists 6 penalty wins or 12 goals ehhh Karl?

  102. how dare u compare our FABREGAS,the king of the emirates to the all time old traford substitute ANDERSON?u should compare cesc to c.ronaldo,ronaldinho,gerrard or lampard!!!

  103. Lucas leiva?who the fuck is that?lol.no seriously liverpool fan lucas doesnt do shit on the pitch.he hasnt done anything.why compare him to anderson?not even liverpool fans think this,except you maybe.anyway you can think but but deep down you know the truth too.isnt it?

  104. December 12, 2007Danny Salford Red

    To the bloke who said he had seen all of Andersons games this season and that he is pure shit and that he is a nothing but a workhorse,1. Were you at the Emirates? I’d like to see you seperate cescs and Andersons performances and say Andersons was shit. 2. U clearly haven’t seen all his games this season as if you had you would need a rectum for a head to say he is useless. and 3. I think you will be in for a big surprise over the next two years and be eating your words about him not being tehnically gifted. His passing and through balls are awesome already. Anyway to the point :-) cesc deffo better player at moment and is real quality. Why not appreciate quality wherever you see it instead of ripping good players who ever they play for?

  105. December 12, 2007Danny Salford Red

    Oh Yeah and Sh*t on The Gooners. (last message was a bit soft :-) )

  106. fabregas iz also young he will also get better in time and will continue to outshine anderson no matter what.
    fabregas’s vision first toch and brilliant passing skills added with his recent knack to score a lot of goals
    will always be better than anderson ders no point of even comparing them. fabregas has proved himself at the highest level while anderson still hasnt

  107. I think Ansderson has the potential to outshine Fabregas.

    I think the general UK media do get carried away with the Arsenal, due to them being a London Club.

  108. Many Aresenal fans have dismissed the question out of hand, but I can’t help getting the feeling that many of them have been too blinkered to really consider Anderson’s qualities.

    Whilst, I have already said that Fabregas who is older is at the moment ahead of Anderson in development, I have been impressed with what I have seen of Anderson: the accuracy of his one touch passing off either foot (long and short), his close ball control, the tremendous energy he brings to the middle of the park, the impressive and clean quality of his tackling (he tends not to foul or get booked but will often harry the opposition out of possession). When he faced up to Fabregas at the Emirates most objective observers say that Anderson lost nothing in comparison with Fabregas on the day; some neutral observers thought Anderson “edged” it.

    Arsenal fans, if you can find the emotional capacity, take a special look at Anderson when he fronts up to Steven Gerrard this weekend and see what you make of him. You might discover that he is a rather better than you thought.

  109. Many Aresenal fans have dismissed the question out of hand, but I can’t help getting the feeling that many of them have been too blinkered to really consider Anderson’s qualities.

    Whilst, I have already said that Fabregas who is older is at the moment ahead of Anderson in development, I have been impressed with what I have seen of Anderson: the accuracy of his one touch passing off either foot (long and short), his close ball control, the tremendous energy he brings to the middle of the park, the impressive and clean quality of his tackling (he tends not to foul or get booked but will often harry the opposition out of possession). When he faced up to Fabregas at the Emirates most objective observers say that Anderson lost nothing in comparison with Fabregas on the day; some neutral observers thought Anderson “edged” it.

    Arsenal fans, if you can find the emotional capacity, take a special look at Anderson when he fronts up to Steven Gerrard this weekend and see what you make of him. You might discover that he is rather better than you thought.

  110. Bob.no shit man!how can anderson prove himself when hes played 8 or 9 games?arsenal stole fab from barca at 15 or 16.he is used to everything in england,the team,the weather,the tactics,the premiership,the coach everything!what more do you arsenal and liverpool fans expect from anderson.watch the game this sunday and watch how he runs the show.

  111. December 12, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    Taehr i was just trying to wined karl up.

  112. I am a Man U fan but I don’t think Anderson is nowhere near as good as Fabregas. I think without him, Arsenal wouldn’t stand where they stand right now. But Man U don’t even need Anderson.

  113. Its stupid to even compare these too yet really, Fabregas has been a big player of nearly two seasons while Anderson as talented as he is has only just come in. How do we know that Anderson won’t suffer from second season syndrome? Admittedly I do think Anderson could become the better player, and this is coming from someone who had followed cesc and Anderson when they were both back in Spain and Brazil. Fabregas is right now the third best best young player in the world, as the writer seems to have forgot Cristiano Ronaldo who is 23 unless that is suddenly old, and Messi is touched by the hand of genius. This article is slightly flawed for the fact that the question is one that should be asked at a much later date, which makes it all rather pointless. Anderson in my opinion could become dangerously good however, he’s not even fully adapted to english life, it takes more then a few months for a young man to adapt to a completely diffrent culture, but if people really do want to know who s better, it will always be Fabregas unless Anderson who will be Manchester Uniteds future attacking midfielder improves his goal ratio, which is even then a slightly unfair statement seeing how hes only started life for united. Fabregas scored 2 goals last season, so Anderson might just find his touch soon as well, and if he does, he has every chance of being the better player, sooner rather then later.

  114. Fab vs Anderson

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8U2V8YW_jg&feature=related

    still Fab is better today but…

  115. I am neutral but from the comments, I can see manu fans are more honest and sensible. They admitted fabregas is better at the moment. Most Arsenal fans are just a bunch of uneducated idiots.

  116. sorry to go back a bit but i would love for comment 45 to enlighten us as to why cesc is better than ronaldo

  117. oh im sorry didnt realize what i read!!! in that case comment 45 is right lol

  118. @Liverpool_Fan
    #99 Nice try :-)

    Seriously, don’t you guys think that Cesc vs Gerrard (both established players) are a more realistic comparison?

  119. @Shohan Khan #100
    Great post.
    I read the article in the link. Amazing. Thanks.

  120. it’s a shame to hear arsenal fans claim their so called fabregas,anderson is just some months old in the premiership and ooh my God no one seem to be remembering paul is injured.ook when the two of them met hope u all saw that happen,where was ur cesc in that game,And someone was also talkin abt goal,what was the number of goals cesc scored last season

  121. and again it took cesc one year to adopt to the english game but andy some months.And not forgetting anderson was voted the best player of the youth world cup,at least there he has the upper hand there

  122. December 13, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    Karl fabragaes is a playmaker so is anderson Gerrard is a box to box midfielder people try and compare similar players

  123. anderson no.1

  124. id pick the kid anderson

  125. Thank you very much Karl! Yeah please people read my comment #100 if you guys want to know more about Anderson. I left a good link there.

    The quote from Judge #115 really sums up the arguments that are being taken place in the comments section: “I am neutral but from the comments, I can see manu fans are more honest and sensible. They admitted fabregas is better at the moment. Most Arsenal fans are just a bunch of uneducated idiots.”

    This is the perfect answer to people like bob & true gunner (just to name a few) who seriously are baised and have no footballing knowledge what so ever. For them and most arsenal and liverpool fans, if a player is wearing their club top, he becomes a God in that position and is better than any other player in that position. I mean i remember few seasons ago when Pennant > Ronaldo in many Liverpool fourms. I think last season made the cocky scousers shut their mouths!

    As a Man United fan, I beleive Anderson should be given TIME to settle and to get some expereience and we all should just WAIT till later to make arguments or conclusions about the player and comparisons. We should not just sit there and have wankfests over Cesc as the Arsenal fans are doing and haveing a blind eye when it comes to another player in the same position.

    How can someone compare a teenager new to England and who has played 4 months in the Premier League to someone who has played a couple of years? Give Anderson atleast ONE season and maybe TWO then start the comparison. The only place were we can compare them both is in the Arsnenal vs Man United game and Anderson didnt even play 90 mins and he still outshone Cesc (ask any sports analyst and neutral fan for proof!) Just relax and time will tell who is better.

    And special mention to Liverpool_fan or wotever his name is..all I said was there is more to football then goals. Do NOT put words in my mouth and make it sound like I said then it is only assists that matter because yet again that is a small part of football. So if football was all about the goalscorers then why is Carragher such a hero amongst the Kop? And yeah you mentioned Lucas? I watched him quite a fair bit but he also needs time before we discuss him. He would be a more realistic comparison to make to Anderson (even thought they play different positions) only because they are both brazillans and new to the Premeir League. I think at the moment Anderson’s influence on games is far greater than Lucas’s but of what I have seen from Lucas looks good and he also like Anderson has the potential to have a great career! Lucas has good passing skills like Anderson and both can defend much better than Fabregas and Lampard. But I do laugh at you for comparing Babel and Nani and making comparisons with the new transfers because like I said TIME WILL TELL and WE GOT TO WAIT before we make real comparisons! You cannot compare new players when we have not even played HALF of the league yet! Its only been 4 months or so? But again you obviously have not seen Nani play because Nani was a much more threat than Babel was in any of the Liverpool games I have watched. If you really would like to compare then go watch Nani’s 2 goals he has scored for Man United and his preseason goals and compare them too Babel’s unimportant useless goals in the Champions League vs shit keepers like vs Besiktas and Marseille or maybe vs Derby whos keeper is even worse!

    People just relax and watch the Premier League and wait till end of the season to reflect on the new players performances!

  126. Oh and a sepcial shout out to Bob who is an expert at looking at OPTA stats and said quote:

    “Save the arguing and check out the Premier League Opta Stats…..Fabregas 800-odd completed passes, top midfielder in the country, the stats dont lie…by the way where is Anderson in the list? Not even in the top 6….need I say more?”

    He is an example of a pure idiot. He compares a player who playes 90 mins for Arsenal when ever he is fit to a player who is in the squad rotation list. NO SHIT bob that Cesc will have more passes because he HAS PLAYED MORE FOOTBALL THAN ANDERSON AND HAS MORE MINS ON THE PITCH HENCE HAS MORE OPPORTUNITES TO CREATE PASSES THAN SOMEONE WHO IS SITTING ON THE BENCH! Scholes is our 1st choice and Anderson is our 2nd choice. I even saw that when scholes was injured he was in the top 6 lmao! Well i think i just proved how dumb you are and how stupid you are to compare people by looking at the OPTA stats! Why cant you read the OPTA stats for appereances? Idiot.

  127. I am a huge Villa fan so am neutral. Fabregas is a great player who has rocketed this season and he deserves the praise he gets. I am not sure its fair to say he is “mature” in his behaviour as he has shown some childish behaviour this season. However, having watched all of the games Anderson has played in for Manchester United, I have to say he really impresses me. When Farbegas first came to Arsenal, he showed signs of being a very good player in the future (which he now is). Anderson, on the other hand already looks like a great player. He may not score as many goals as Fabregas but in my opinion, that will come in time. Also, lets not forget this is Anderson’s first season in England and he looks like he has been here for years. I am not looking forward to my teams defenders marking him next month in the fa cup!

  128. I am an Arsenal fan and at the moment Cesc is better. In the future, it wouldn’t suprise me if Anderson was the better player

  129. December 14, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    Khan i was only messing with karl when i said Lucas was better than anderson but i really meant the babel and Nani one ;)

    “he becomes a God in that position and is better than any other player in that position.”——- then you said ——-”I mean i remember few seasons ago when Pennant > Ronaldo in many Liverpool fourms. I think last season made the cocky scousers shut their mouths!”

    You have just contridicted yourself? you say every player is better to the fan that loves them then you say Ronaldo is better than pennant??

    I really havent seen much of Anderson exept for Arsenals vs man u and i wasnt impressed. The only reason he outclassed Fabreagas is because Fab wasnt playing his best in the match.

    Its like comparing Babel to Henry. Fab has done so much to prove his ability in the best league in the world and i dont think its fair some inexperienced dude should be compared to him.

  130. RE:Liverpool_Fan

    you haven’t seen much of Anderson so please don’t pass comment. Its like me watching fernando torres once and saying I wasn’t impressed.
    and for the record, fabregas played brilliantly in that match and scored a goal but sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say Anderson got the better of him.
    do you really think there would be so much talk of Anderson if he wasn’t impressive? man utd were scraping 1-0 wins at the start of the season. Anderson is one of the main reasons why they are no longer doing so. Look at the Bolton match (oh yeah you didn’t bother watching that). United were truely terrible in the first half, Anderson comes on and they look like scoring. Unfortunately, we never did but we came very, very close.

    So call Anderson “some inexperienced dude” all you want even though he plays like he has had years of experience but that comment might just come back to haunt you on Sunday

    A friend is a Chelsea fan. what did he say to me the other day “credit where credit is due, you got a good player in that Anderson”

  131. how dare u compare our FABREGAS,the king of the emirates to the all time old traford substitute ANDERSON?u should compare cesc to c.ronaldo,ronaldinho,gerrard or lampard!!!

    Oh dear
    first of, cesc can’t be compared to Ronaldo as they play in different positions in midfield
    Secondly,Anderson starts most games now and the all time fave substitute was supersub a.k.a Ole gunnar
    Secondly, “fabregas, king of the emirates” wait a minute. he is having a good season but….. hang on wasn’t the same said about Henry? oh yeah he was turned on the minute he left Arsenal. F*ck what he had done for you. He dared wanted to leave.

  132. Arsenal Arsenal!
    At the moment, the better play is Cesc!
    However, Anderson is an excellent player (one I wish came to us last summer but we didn’t have the funds) and if he is better than cesc in a few years time, then so be it. Class players are worth celebrating
    Fabregas has been our player of the season though
    fellow gooners, stop saying Anderson is rubbish and being so childish. Lets play fair :)

  133. oh just wanted to say, I love the Fab4 but something tells me if we don’t win anything this season ,he will leave, especially with big spanish clubs coming calling after his performances this season :(

  134. RE: Brandon #112

    “I am a Man U fan but I don’t think Anderson is nowhere near as good as Fabregas. I think without him, Arsenal wouldn’t stand where they stand right now. But Man U don’t even need Anderson.”

    Okay so yeah we dont need him yeah? Oh so we will just stick to uno our 30+ year old midfielders like Giggsy and Scholsey for what another decade? You see people this is the thinking of a person with a short term fix. Yeah what are you gna do when Scholes and Giggs retires soon? Or what if they get injured and cannot carry on like Ole? Oh will you just spend millions to find an already made super star like Real Madrid do? Like how they purchased Zidane? And pay a record fee just to replace some home grown stars? The reason why Anderson and Nani are at Man United is because they can train a season or two with the players which they will in the future replace and their experience will help the new potential players out a lot and they can give them tips and advice as well. Also the manager can see if they will be able to fill the boots of the players and if they have to potential and can also see first hand their improvements instead of just scouting them from afar. Sir Alex will also help their development like he has with Ronaldo. And that is why we need Anderson & Nani. Its called the future people.

  135. RE: Liverpool_fan

    If you have NOT watched Anderson number of times then there is no need for you to comment!

    And no I did not contradict myself. Maybe I came out the wrong way. What I was trying to say is most Liverpool fans always tend to think their players are better than any other player and like I gave an example Pennant > Ronaldo. Rofl. Or they all usually claim that our (underrated) Scholes is shit and people like sissoko are a million times better than Hargreaves or Carrick. They base their opinions without any proof or evidence or any real solid backing and just love anyone who wears a t-shirt whit Carlsberg written on it. They do not even watch man united games most of them who make these claims. They maybe watch a couple of games. I am not saying that you said all this but I have heard it from many (yes MANY!) Liverpool supporters.

    I like to make my conclusion after time and yeah I think after last season we can obviously say Ronaldo is the far greater player than your Pennant! I do not think he would be voted best player in the Premier Leauge and would not of one so many individual honors if that was not the case, and his goal scoring ability is just as good as gerrard and lampard as he proved last season and this season once again. I mean I don’t see Pennant being nominated for the Ballon d’or or the Fifa world player of the year. It also looks as if sissoko is crap as he proved to us this season in the displays iv seen (Marseille, Reading, and other games), hence I belive sissoko comparisons to viera is a big jokes, and mite I remember you wen he signd all Liverpool fans wer jumping up and down OH YEAH WE GOT THE NEW VIERA!! Hahah NO.

    Babel is a good player. I like him. I like him more as a striker though. Torres and Babel upfront would be ideal! Much better than crouch haha and at best average kuyt and less than average vronin lol his transition to a new position has been really successful..well to date it has dono abt the futre! But I still belive Nani posses bigger threats to the opposition as he showd vs Roma. I think Nani has more potential whereas Babel is near his development. I would not be surprised if Nani becomes as good as Quersma and Ronaldo in the future (say 3 years? His very young uno! That’s abt what Ronaldo had to become a big player!) Also Babel has more experience and is older than Nani and just wait for the comparisons till later.

  136. December 15, 2007Liverpool_Fan

    But didnt you say its about how long you have spent in the league that matters?

    I know Pennant aint better than Ronaldo dont be getting angry i was quoting something you said.

    I dont make big comparisons between up coming players and legends when people said Babel is the next Henry i said “hes got the cheeky style of henry but dont he?” and when people said Torres was the next Fowler i said “No. He is Torres he is his own player”

    I dont represent Liverpool fans we are all different i mean going into the United match you would expect all Liverpool Fans to predict a Liverpool win right? Some say thing likes “United will win 2-0 and another cock up for Benitez” some hate Gerrards Guts after his link with Chelsea.

  137. I am confused now :P I have no idea what we are talking abt but yeah plz tell us about your feelings to lose vs Man United once again :)

  138. Anderson showed yesterday why he is the best young player in the world, anyone who can keep Gerrard quiet must be something special.. Oh i forgot Anderson is special he is the best young player in the world…… Cesc who?

  139. Couldn’t read all of that stuff because is was getting so upset.Y’all should put aside the fact that u’re a fan of a specific team 4 a min & think about what u’re typing.Cesc is a 1derfull player but so is Anderson.It’s not wise 2 compare them just yet because the difference in time they’ve been playing in the EPL,Cesc has had his time to mature so please allow Anderson.(Cesc has played more games this season anyway).Y don’t we try 2 commend both players based on what we’ve seen so far this season & hope they stay in the EPL 4 the love of the EPL & not ur team of choice,because,they’re 2 terrific players.Cesc has shown alot of maturity this season & he’s playing 1derfull futbol.Anderson considering that he’s just arrived is showing world class potential & leadership abilities.Let’s hope they stay @ there respective teams 4 a long time because they’re 2 YOUNG players with a whole lot of potential & a great addition to the premiership…..PEACE!!!!

  140. Anderson to me is someone who defines the word football, for someone so young he does things not even people who have been in the game for a decade cant do, his understanding of the game is absolutely unbelievable, his vision is an example of all vision should be like in matches and his pace is something Olympic winner would be proud of.
    Anderson to me is on the line to be crowned everything there is to be crowned in the world of football, yes he doesnt have the skills of Cristiano, he doesnt have goals like Scholes and he also doesnt speak English as good as G.Vevilles but for a South American to come in his first season and deals with being given Challenges such as Gerrard and Fabregas tells you how much of a player Anderson really is, I am grateful that my team in Portugal is Porto where i enjoyed watching him various times and also proud to be a Man Utd supporter in England..
    One thing i will guarantee you all is we have someone special in our team.

    Thank you

    And oh yea do not insult Anderson comparing him to Cesc

  141. Anderson > Gerrard > Fabregas

  142. Liverpool_Fan, why so quiet?
    Did you lose internet connectivity? :-)

    I just hope that everyone commenting here - and never seen Anderson play - watched the game on Sunday. I know Anderson did not have the best of games (in terms of his amazing passing and vision we’ve come to expect that is), but he had a very good game. Especially in keeping Gerrard quiet for the entire duration of the game. Hell, for a moment I thought Rafa was up to his usual rotation crap and that he decided to leave Gerrard out of the game. It was only when he tackled Anderson (brilliant tackle I must add) when I noticed he was actually on the pitch. And then I guess he must’ve gotten substituted or something…
    :-)

  143. December 19, 2007ArseneWanker

    ‘Nuff said!
    Best Five Players in the world in 2010:

    1)C.Ronaldo
    2)Lionel Messi
    3)Cesc Fabregas
    4)Wayne Rooney
    5)Anderson

  144. I agree with Arsene Wanker

    btw i love da name!

  145. Best Five Players in the world in 2010:

    1)Lionel Messi
    2)Anderson
    3)C.Ronaldo
    4)Cesc Fabregas
    5)Wayne Rooney

  146. lmao well done hiepdn you just repeated what arsenewanker said lol!

    & why is liverpool_fan so quite? i havent heard from him for ages! Gee i think anderson made him speechless ;)

  147. I think Cesc F. is a far better than Anderson.His positional sense & passes are superb.
    Dennis

  148. They are different players. Fabregas is more creative, very much the playmaker, and has suddenly developed the knack of scoring making him even more valuable to Arsenal. He dictates play and when he is absent from the team Arsenal lose some of the rhythm of their fluid passing game.

    Anderson is a more complete midfielder, faster, stronger, better defensively, more versatile, better dribbler, better passing range. But he is not yet the sort of player who can influence a game the way Fabregas can or carry the team and in a team of talented Man U stars he shines less brightly than Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo and co.

    But for what he does Fabregas is better, most definitely one of the best playmakers in the world.

    Anderson has a way to go, but I truly believe if he realises his potential he could become a world class box-to-box midfielder, much better than Gerrard.

  149. i think Anderson is the best than fabrigas

  150. Anderson proves yet again he is superior to Fabregas with complete and utter domination in the 4