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	<title>Comments on: Ebbsfleet lose Akinde magic</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very interesting points in the comments, and yes, I&#039;d echo what many have said (and may not have emphasised it enough in the article) that the Akinde deal was really a no-brainer, and any other club at that level would have been daft not to accept that kind of cash for a 19-year-old prospect.

The voting turnout... yes, the numbers aren&#039;t bad in such a short space of time but it also highlights one possible shortcoming with the MyFC model - transfers move fast and to mobilise a vote could end up costing the club a transfer.

@11 Yes, there&#039;s apathy at local elections, but that&#039;s largely because they don&#039;t attract as much passion as your average football club does (having covered both local elections and small football games during my career I can safely say the small football games spark up much more interest in the local community). Also, MyFC members have specifically paid cold hard cash to get involved. If I parted with my money, I&#039;d be damn sure I got involved with as many aspects as possible.

&#039;Fleet faithful&#039; - writers licence, sorry! I was referring to MyFC as well but it was late and I like alliteration. But yes, point taken.

@12 I&#039;m really lost with that comment? There&#039;s too much information to get enough people voting? Does that not suggest (and I&#039;m speaking partially blind here as I&#039;m not a MyFC member) that communication lines could be clearer and simpler. Information is a good thing, yes, but not if it puts people off voting. Also, as a company, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d fancy making so much of my information easily available to potential rivals, but that&#039;s a whole new discussion.

@5 true, more clubs need to be more open and honest with fans, but a lot of clubs with active supporters&#039; trusts are pretty open and transparent (up to a point, see above as to why). Hopefully more will follow that example. I&#039;m not optimistic, though.

A couple more general points. Firstly, I&#039;d still be a bit worried as to where and how these debts have come into being, especially as MyFC did promise not to take on any more debt (although debts are a reality of life at any football club). It&#039;s also concerning (if not overly surprising) that they&#039;re predicting such a large dropaway in renewals, which I&#039;d imagine makes it quite hard for long term planning.

Secondly, while MyFC is a great idea that would be great if it succeeds, there are still a lot of issues, both with the voting and the business model. So, to throw another question out there to MyFC members and Fleet fans, would a scaled back version of MyFC be acceptable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very interesting points in the comments, and yes, I&#8217;d echo what many have said (and may not have emphasised it enough in the article) that the Akinde deal was really a no-brainer, and any other club at that level would have been daft not to accept that kind of cash for a 19-year-old prospect.</p>
<p>The voting turnout&#8230; yes, the numbers aren&#8217;t bad in such a short space of time but it also highlights one possible shortcoming with the MyFC model &#8211; transfers move fast and to mobilise a vote could end up costing the club a transfer.</p>
<p>@11 Yes, there&#8217;s apathy at local elections, but that&#8217;s largely because they don&#8217;t attract as much passion as your average football club does (having covered both local elections and small football games during my career I can safely say the small football games spark up much more interest in the local community). Also, MyFC members have specifically paid cold hard cash to get involved. If I parted with my money, I&#8217;d be damn sure I got involved with as many aspects as possible.</p>
<p>&#8216;Fleet faithful&#8217; &#8211; writers licence, sorry! I was referring to MyFC as well but it was late and I like alliteration. But yes, point taken.</p>
<p>@12 I&#8217;m really lost with that comment? There&#8217;s too much information to get enough people voting? Does that not suggest (and I&#8217;m speaking partially blind here as I&#8217;m not a MyFC member) that communication lines could be clearer and simpler. Information is a good thing, yes, but not if it puts people off voting. Also, as a company, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d fancy making so much of my information easily available to potential rivals, but that&#8217;s a whole new discussion.</p>
<p>@5 true, more clubs need to be more open and honest with fans, but a lot of clubs with active supporters&#8217; trusts are pretty open and transparent (up to a point, see above as to why). Hopefully more will follow that example. I&#8217;m not optimistic, though.</p>
<p>A couple more general points. Firstly, I&#8217;d still be a bit worried as to where and how these debts have come into being, especially as MyFC did promise not to take on any more debt (although debts are a reality of life at any football club). It&#8217;s also concerning (if not overly surprising) that they&#8217;re predicting such a large dropaway in renewals, which I&#8217;d imagine makes it quite hard for long term planning.</p>
<p>Secondly, while MyFC is a great idea that would be great if it succeeds, there are still a lot of issues, both with the voting and the business model. So, to throw another question out there to MyFC members and Fleet fans, would a scaled back version of MyFC be acceptable?</p>
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		<title>By: Jussi Keinonen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jussi Keinonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a MyFC member I would also like to point out that low voting numbers will continue, because there is SO much information and discussion going on. So I, for one, will only take part when I have the time and &quot;need&quot;. 

I will also resubscribe, this is just too much fun and social interest to be missing out on. 

Thanks also for the review - I got to know of this site through the daily MyFC e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a MyFC member I would also like to point out that low voting numbers will continue, because there is SO much information and discussion going on. So I, for one, will only take part when I have the time and &#8220;need&#8221;. </p>
<p>I will also resubscribe, this is just too much fun and social interest to be missing out on. </p>
<p>Thanks also for the review &#8211; I got to know of this site through the daily MyFC e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Parkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Parkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article - but there were one or 2 inaccuracies.  

The Â£20K raised for Gash was not just a local whip round from Fleet &#039;faithful&#039; fans - it was embraced by MyFC website and the contributors to the fund came from MyFC subscribers as well as local Fleet faithful.  Indeed, it was raised so quickly BECAUSE of the website ... credit where credit is due I think.

Also, it is easy to pick up on low turnout ... but the real story is that MyFc mustered SO MANY many votes in just 48-hours.  Bearing in mind the timeframe and time of year (yes some people were still on holiday, others away from home etc..) the figure is encouraging.  Besides - we struggle to get 30% of people to vote on their local issues at elections shows how much apathy there is to break through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article &#8211; but there were one or 2 inaccuracies.  </p>
<p>The Â£20K raised for Gash was not just a local whip round from Fleet &#8216;faithful&#8217; fans &#8211; it was embraced by MyFC website and the contributors to the fund came from MyFC subscribers as well as local Fleet faithful.  Indeed, it was raised so quickly BECAUSE of the website &#8230; credit where credit is due I think.</p>
<p>Also, it is easy to pick up on low turnout &#8230; but the real story is that MyFc mustered SO MANY many votes in just 48-hours.  Bearing in mind the timeframe and time of year (yes some people were still on holiday, others away from home etc..) the figure is encouraging.  Besides &#8211; we struggle to get 30% of people to vote on their local issues at elections shows how much apathy there is to break through.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tomchaps,

I would love to see MyFC work - fans running football is a heart-warming idea.

Thanks for clearing up my confusion on the matter though - I  knew MyFC needed the money but I didn&#039;t know Akinde was looking to jump...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomchaps,</p>
<p>I would love to see MyFC work &#8211; fans running football is a heart-warming idea.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing up my confusion on the matter though &#8211; I  knew MyFC needed the money but I didn&#8217;t know Akinde was looking to jump&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gary talser</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary talser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great balanced journalism.Perhaps the best article I have read about this matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great balanced journalism.Perhaps the best article I have read about this matter</p>
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		<title>By: spammeplease</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/ebbsfleet-lose-akinde-magic/11145/comment-page-1/#comment-101071</link>
		<dc:creator>spammeplease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the reality of football today - the Fleet are losing a quarter of a million a year, and so too are most of the other top 100 clubs.  The difference is that for the others one or two people have to find the quarter million, for the Fleet&#039;s owners we each only need to front up 35 quid.  Join us for the ride, it is fascinating, believe me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the reality of football today &#8211; the Fleet are losing a quarter of a million a year, and so too are most of the other top 100 clubs.  The difference is that for the others one or two people have to find the quarter million, for the Fleet&#8217;s owners we each only need to front up 35 quid.  Join us for the ride, it is fascinating, believe me!</p>
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		<title>By: tomchaps</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomchaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmed,

The reason the vote was so lopsided was that Akinde&#039;s contract was up in a few months and he had already said that he wouldn&#039;t resign. He&#039;s also been in slightly suspect form recently, seeming to suffer from a lack of confidence--he&#039;d not started a game yet this season, actually. Given the cash crunch EUFC is in, it just made sense.  

On a more positive note, gates have been over 1,800 for home games, up 400-600 over last year. If Ebbsfleet can stay afloat for a few more years, we&#039;ll be in good shape.  The next year will be scary, though.

Oh, and I pick a team every game. Those who vote choose to let Liam pick his team--so far, they&#039;ve been almost identical every time. I think the member-chosen team will be put into effect some time this season, the votes are pretty close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmed,</p>
<p>The reason the vote was so lopsided was that Akinde&#8217;s contract was up in a few months and he had already said that he wouldn&#8217;t resign. He&#8217;s also been in slightly suspect form recently, seeming to suffer from a lack of confidence&#8211;he&#8217;d not started a game yet this season, actually. Given the cash crunch EUFC is in, it just made sense.  </p>
<p>On a more positive note, gates have been over 1,800 for home games, up 400-600 over last year. If Ebbsfleet can stay afloat for a few more years, we&#8217;ll be in good shape.  The next year will be scary, though.</p>
<p>Oh, and I pick a team every game. Those who vote choose to let Liam pick his team&#8211;so far, they&#8217;ve been almost identical every time. I think the member-chosen team will be put into effect some time this season, the votes are pretty close.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Dowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Dowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, the reality that Akinde was only under contract until the end of the season and then the transfer compensation would be set by a third party was relevant.  It was also relevant, however, that it is neither decent nor good business to deny a young man a potentially life changing opportunity.  I wish John Akinde all the best, thank him for his services to date and sincerely hope to see him playing in the Premiership next year.

Elaine
Norman, Oklahoma USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, the reality that Akinde was only under contract until the end of the season and then the transfer compensation would be set by a third party was relevant.  It was also relevant, however, that it is neither decent nor good business to deny a young man a potentially life changing opportunity.  I wish John Akinde all the best, thank him for his services to date and sincerely hope to see him playing in the Premiership next year.</p>
<p>Elaine<br />
Norman, Oklahoma USA</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vote was conducted within 48 hours with very little warning that it would take place.  7500 is a very good number.  You are quite correct about the financial problems.  How many clubs do you know who have published their current and projected finances in detail, or discuss them with 30000 interested parties?  We are trying to work our way through it.  I doubt we are the only football team in this boat.  We are just the one that allows its members to participate in this way and do so openly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vote was conducted within 48 hours with very little warning that it would take place.  7500 is a very good number.  You are quite correct about the financial problems.  How many clubs do you know who have published their current and projected finances in detail, or discuss them with 30000 interested parties?  We are trying to work our way through it.  I doubt we are the only football team in this boat.  We are just the one that allows its members to participate in this way and do so openly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dunphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dunphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the nature of the Conference that most players are on short contracts. Akinde was only on a contract until the end of the year. If he wasn&#039;t sold now he would walk away for much less at the end of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the nature of the Conference that most players are on short contracts. Akinde was only on a contract until the end of the year. If he wasn&#8217;t sold now he would walk away for much less at the end of the season.</p>
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