Does Carragher think that Chelsea are better than Liverpool?
With the start of the new EPL season just around the corner, people are beginning to speculate on which teams will move up and down, who will be relegated, and who the team to beat is. These discussions occur everywhere, starting with the game’s biggest pundits, all the way down to the pubs around the world.
While we shouldn’t be naive enough to think that the players themselves don’t have these types of discussions, is something along the lines of this really something that you should talk to the press about? Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher seems to think so:
‘United may be the champions but Chelsea are really the ones you have to use as your yardstick,’ he said. ‘With Petr Cech being back at his peak there is no better keeper and John Terry in front of him is going to give Chelsea a real chance again. ‘The team which finishes above Chelsea will win it this season. ‘United are a great side and have strengthened again. Carlos Tevez would make a big difference to their chances. Hopefully, they won’t get him,’ Carragher quipped.
Now, that being said, all of these are valid points. While Manchester United was the better side last year, the argument could be (and has been) made that Chelsea were not at 100% season, and because of this, they lost the title. That’s not what this is about though.
My question is, why is Jamie Carragher not out saying that the team to beat is his own, Liverpool?
To me, this sends a bad message before the first whistle has even blown. I for one, being a Manchester United fan, would be appalled if Rio Ferdinand told the press that Chelsea were the team to beat in the upcoming season. It may be true, but it shows a lack of confidence in your own side, and it could possibly carry onto the pitch. After seeing Liverpool spend tons of money on players like Fernando Torres to upgrade its squad in hopes of winning the Premiership, for Jamie Carragher to say this is both shocking and questionable. Surely Rafa and company can’t be too happy about this. If Steven Gerrard were asked the same question, do you think his response would be Chelsea? I’m not so sure it would be.
So what say you Liverpool fans? How do you feel about Jamie Carragher’s comments?
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im a united man to be honest, his comments pissed me of yesterday, not only did we beat liverpool at their own ground just like chelsea many of our players where injured, but we fought are way to victory but even though this happend, chelsea are the team to beat-wanker.
July 30th, 2007 @ 15:34Aaaaah. I’m sorry he’s annoyed you Dan
July 30th, 2007 @ 15:41no carraghers just winding the mancs up and judging by the first comment on here, Job done
July 30th, 2007 @ 15:46Obviously, dan failed to read into carra’s comments…
It is common practice for managers and players alike, to write off the challenge of a main rival…
I’m a pool fan and like many others, smiled thinking of how the red side of manchester would react…
July 30th, 2007 @ 15:47I’m a Liverpool-fan and to be honest those comments don’t surprise me. I can see three obvious reasons why Carra would’ve said that:
1. He’s always been honest about himself and his team, both regarding strengths and faults. He’ll never let anyone talk trash about Liverpool but he’ll never reject fair criticism either. So I’d see this as his way of keeping himself on his toes, by not allowing himself to get complacent thinking that Liverpool are all of a sudden better than Utd or Chelsea just because they bought Torres, Babel or Benayoun.
2. It’s his honest opinion, and if anyone was ever gonna speak their mind it’s Carra.
3. He said it to piss the Mancs off in a royal way. Mission accomplished!
July 30th, 2007 @ 15:48Jamie Carragher is the ulitimate straight talker. All he has said is the truth if Liverpool have improved enough and they finish above Chelsea they will have (probably) win the league. Man U won the with some truly great players such as Ronaldo and Rooney. But the contribution made by Giggs and Scholes was massively under-rated and lets face it there not spring chickens. If they get injured or play less games than last season Man U won’t be the same team.
July 30th, 2007 @ 15:59Am a united fan, and i agree with the scousers, Carragher’s merely using the media as any other player, or manager does. While he’s deflecting the attention away from Liverpool, he’s also having a go at their biggest and greatest rivals.
There’s not really 1 interview from any of the bigger clubs in the premiership you can take as 100% serious.
Unfortunately, some fans will read this s black and white, and will bite. Let Carragher and any other player or manager for that talk about Chelsea being the favourites. It really doesn’t bother me, and i really don’t think it’s going to bother anyone at United either.
Using the media the way Carrgher has, has been used throughout football for decades! It’s just common practice now! I mean we all know Man United are the favourites!
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:04Hmm either you have interpreted what he said in the wrong way or you are annoyed that he said Chelsea instead of united. He is simply saying that if we, you or whoever finish above them they will be champions, what’s wrong with that? it’s no doubt what SAF and most of the Utd players thought last season.
It’s like a Formula 1 driver saying my target is to finish above Schumacher(when he raced)at the end of the season, because it’s a pretty safe bet that means I’ll be champion.
He’s not being negative at all. He is simply stating that our target is to finish above them.
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:08Dan, Utd beat Liverpool with their first real attept at goal, after having been outplayed for the full 90 minutes…. Don’t make that victory out to be something it’s not….
As to carra’s comments, Liverpool were some 20+ points adrift last year, it’s not like they should be considered favourites this year… They will challenge though…
As to Liverpool spending tons of money, get a grip, their net spending is a lot less than Utd have spent on two unproven youngsters this summer….
Liverpool’s current most expensive player is Torres at £ 20 million…. Utd have Ferdinand, Rooney, Carrick, Nani, Hargreaves, Anderson, Ronaldo, Tevez(?) who all cost more than Liverpool’s second most expensive signing…
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:11i think it was a few reasons why he said this, 1) to take pressure off liverpool, 2) to annoy the mancs, and 3) because its the truth, im a red and im not blind i know chelsea and united are stronger teams than ;iverpool, were still a very young side, and im not sure we can win the league just yet, i think we’ll be a lot closer to chelsea and man u, and hopefully season after that we can have a real challenge!
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:11I agree with Jamie and it’s not to wind anybody up.
It’s just the way that I think and a fan’s opinion
is exactly that, an opinion! Nothing more, nor less.
And, anybody who has watched Jamie play for club (or country) knows that he plays with all heart and does not stop because he thinks at the beginning of a season that one team is stronger than another. Where did he say his team should not play and just give the title to another team? He always competes with great intensity and always is intense with his other defenders, which he manages.
Watch him play this season and then look at your stupid comments once again.
Good article in order to cause fan comments!
YNWA
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:25I am enjoying my occasional visits to this site. It offers a real sense of what the manure mentality is really like. When I first read Carra’s comments I knew that the twisted minds you lot seem to posses would go into over drive.
Firstly, Carra has said what anyone with any real knowledge of football would agree with. The benchmark is the Ruskies no matter how much I hate to think so. Secondly, though the Manure did win the prem last season, they suffered a fraction of the injuries that the Ruskies did and not to the same critical positions on the pitch. The Ruskies being a defensive club rely heavily on Cech & Terry!
Further to the above points, LFC out played Manure on both games last season and the season before and circum to late goals etc… The point here is not who got the points but the domination of Manure never takes place against the Ruskies even when we beat the dam chavs. That’s shows the difference in levels between the clubs and thereby indicating who to be most concerned about in the coming season.
Another point that seems so thoughtless is the idea that we sign a record signing means we have to win the title. Bearing in mind the number of players that have cost more than Torres and who ply their trade at both the manure and the chavs it would be utterly idiotic for Carra to start making such wild and unsubstantiated predictions. It may well fit the profile of a Manure or chav players but not the way of the reds.
To predict the forthcoming EPL is to be made a fool later on. Carra answered a question asked in an honest and intelligent way. After 3 months of the season we all would have a better idea where the top clubs stand and who is likely to win the EPL. The reality however, is that this season is likely to be the closest for some time. Probably meaning more than two teams competing to till the later stages of the season.
Any other comment form Carra would have been out of character of a man who has little time for childish upmanship and windups. Ask him a question and you’re likely to get an answer and one that would be reasonable.
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:41Jamie Carragher would struggle to tie his own shoe laces so why worry about comments made by somebody with the mental age of five. This season will be another two horse race and this weekend will be a good test to see who could end up as favourites. The thing I am looking forward to most is what excuse Liverscum are going to use this season when they fail to win the premo? Being a Chelsea fan I have had to listen to the dribble over the years saying we only won the premo becuase of the money. No reason why you twats shouldn’t win it this year then is there? The only problem I can see is no matter how much money you end up spending, you no longer have the quality to compete over the whole season. If you end up losing Steve G through injury, your stuffed due to the shit he is surrounded by on the pitch.
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:46I don’t see anything particularly unusual about what he said. Liverpool haven’t challenged for a league title in nearly 20 years, they were nowhere close last season. It would sound preposterous if he were to say Liverpool were the team to beat (and thus the favorites).
If you take the time, you can probably think of a whole host of examples, from players and managers alike, of suggesting others, not their own team, are the teams to beat. This is done to try and play the role of the underdog, and put the pressure on your rivals. Perfectly logical.
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:51Carragher is an idiot,i wonder what his grades in school were,how do you say that the team you’ve been beating at every competition is the team to fear.They are solerly the one piece in england,mourinho hasn’t quite ben able to beat.He should be out there trash talking chelsea but instead he is praising them.What a total looser
July 30th, 2007 @ 16:55Reverse psychology my friend.
Carra with his Jedi mind tricks will bring the title home.
- “These are not the droids you’re looking for”
- “This is not the goal you’re looking for”
July 30th, 2007 @ 17:14Well hese comments arent really a suprise lets admit it here in the past 3 seasons Chelsea have nearly won more silver wear than liverpool and man u put together!
And even though they had players suffering injury they challenged well for the title (and man united werent as bad as Chelsea)
So i think it is right Chelsea r the team to beat they r the best in england currently it pains me to say it but they r.
so if we surpass chelsea we can be the best
July 30th, 2007 @ 17:14Little Blue — wow, you sound like a passionate puppy.
Quick! Pick up the blue plastic flags Papa Abramovich gave us and wave them spontaneously in the air when the anouncer tells us to! We’re so passionate. But don’t forget to put them down when told to.
July 30th, 2007 @ 17:16Cheers Spizzy, I needed a laugh this afternoon. Just a question though… what were your grades at school? I’d love to know (or should that be “luv too no”?)
July 30th, 2007 @ 17:18Spizzy…how can you comment on what grades jamie carragher achieved in school when you come out with spelling like ‘solerly’ and comments like ‘total looser’? what is that exactly?
July 30th, 2007 @ 17:20Just because liverpool have beaten chelsea recently in one off games does not mean they are the better side. Carragher will always give an honest answer to whatever question asked. Maybe carragher would be able to buy you a decent education spizzy with all that money he has earnt being such a total loser and all….
Optimism can only take you so far. Unlike some leagues elsewhere in the world the EPL features the same teams up the top year after year. Chelsea in particular notched up two Championships in a row and four decent seasons in a row. That combined with the fact that Chelsa’s loss last season come with a bunch of injuries and the simple fact that Chelsea’s general gameplan is based on consistency as opposed to a system in which ‘give the ball to Rooney and Ronaldo and hope they do something spectacular’ is one of the main avenues of play means that even a Man U fan like me sees Chelsea as the favourites.
July 30th, 2007 @ 18:00Hmm, Deeply saddened but not too surprised that some of the Manks and the Ruskies immediately jump to personal assasination of Carra instead of discussing it like adults! Bit sweeping I know, but Carra is only playing the same mind games that red nose and the ‘special one’ (lmao) play all the time.
What were his grades tsk tsk tsk, grow up a little like some of your educated bretheren who have commented on here, and maybe cut down a little on the caffiene.
July 30th, 2007 @ 18:10Chelsea fans still giving the ‘injuries’ excuse.if chelsea are so strong and have so much strength in depth surely they could have coped with two injuries. terry and cech?carragher said what he thought it will not change his performance no the pitch.
July 30th, 2007 @ 18:20@ redrob
July 30th, 2007 @ 18:34hey i type fast,so i get some letters wrong,plus this is no spelling bee,its a discussion,i think i surpassed the education gauge when i joined university,something i’m sure you and jamie will never have an opportunity to do.
The reason i said he’s an idiot is cause you shouldn’t give your opponents any psychological advantage,especially when the opponents are chelski.
United were worse off than Chelsea with injuries because Chelsea’s whole team fell apart when they lost their ‘keeper and one CB whereas United’s whole back line were out for the last month of the season it’s just United didn’t piss and moan about it and they just got on with it. Don’t forget United were also missing their main striker in Saha for the second half of the season. Imagine Chelsea Without Drogba, Terry, Carvalho, Cashley and whatever right back is regular. They would have crumbled like they will this season when Essien and Drogba go to the AN.
P.S. Frank how can you say that Liverpool outplayed United in both games this year and last year. Were they the games that United took 12 points from and ‘Pool came back with a big fat 0.
July 30th, 2007 @ 18:47spizzy you really dont have to be that intelligent to go to uni
i dont think that he is giving an advantage to chelsea, he is just putting pressure on them and giving his opinion
liam, man u were shite against liverpool who dominated the game regardless of points taken, however whilst liverpool did beat chelsea they had to edge past them and it was a much closer game, rather than what was esstentailly luck and good finishing
July 30th, 2007 @ 20:41I think carra should say..”sunderland will be the team to beat”
July 30th, 2007 @ 20:56Hello Liam O’Kelly Old Bean,
Glad you have come out to play. I am sure you watched all four games and were very happy at the display of your team and the manner of that Nev reaction after you scored had more to do with letting out the frustration of our defence stopping you and not the elation of winning after being dominated. Plank!
The only difference between a chave and manure is the tint on their prescription specs. They probably don’t work either do they!!! Your lot won, but they never dominated, while we beat the chavs yet we have not dominated them, which means there is more luck about your victories.
When you win without domination you know there is plenty of work to be done, when you lose after dominating, you then know you have some more work to do.
July 30th, 2007 @ 21:03Spizzy…first of all well done for constructing a paragraph that makes sense, its obviously not a spelling bee but when you say someone has no education while writing incoherent rubbish you can see my point..secondly please explain how saying chelsea are the team to beat is giving them a psychological advantage Carragher basically said they are the best team in England Mourinhos hardly gonna pin it up on the dressing room wall and say prove him wrong!
July 30th, 2007 @ 21:24liverpool have no problem beating chelsea united r our main target althoug we need the consistancy that chelsea have.
In my earlier comment i called chelsea the best team in england and i stick by that but united r the team liverpool must focus on and i disagree with one of my childhood heros sorry carra man.
July 30th, 2007 @ 21:29Frank Liverpool can’t even outplay Man utd 2nd team, because even our second team is more skillfull than 2nd class players from La Liga that play in your team. Cara-s comment is irrelevant…let’s wait for the season and I hope that all of you will be back and this time you will not have stupid excuses.
July 30th, 2007 @ 22:40Frank
I’ll admit that Liverpool dominated the second game this season but in the first game I don’t even think they had a shot on target. Ask Arsenal what it’s like to dominate a game and not score because ‘Pool seem to be learning how to do it.
July 30th, 2007 @ 23:28Liverpool dominating united in 4 games?what a load of shite.we beat liverpool at old trafford 2 0.and it was an easy game.please dont try to give us these silly excuses like we dominated all four games home and away and lost them all. As for this coming season it will simply be another 2 horse race between the champions and chelsea simply they have by far more quality than the rest.as i read the news now it seems there is a chance that tevez will join united before the start of the season .which in my opinion makes me believe even more that this season will be the same as the last.
July 31st, 2007 @ 00:13that statement proves that carragher is a bottler.
July 31st, 2007 @ 04:11uhooooo Liverpool vice-captain gives a statement to:
July 31st, 2007 @ 04:361- Ease the pressure off Liverpool.
2- Put some serious pressure on Man-U
3- Make Chelsea complacent.
I say promote him to Captain for this is a brilliant peice of startegy.
Sorry for interrupting, but liverpool’s owner himself said “Chelsea is the greatest team and they are only going to get better” a few months back. Case of both owner and employee playing mind games? But having said that, i think he’s just having some fun rubbing people the wrong way. After all his team beat chelsea in the CL
July 31st, 2007 @ 05:09maybe its man utd or even chelski the team to beat..one thing for sure that liverpool aint gaining anything from it and they’ll fight for the 3rd and 4th place in the league like most times
they suck like always!
July 31st, 2007 @ 08:04With all these new signings here’s what I’d expect from true title contenders.
Instead of using chelski as the yardstick to measure your teams performance with,how about you play your own game,and stop focusing on what other teams are doing. U’d think he tapes every chelski game and goes home to watch what john terry does on the pitch.
Instead of coming up with muck that whoever finishes above chelski will win,how about they concentrate on playing and winning their games,so whats he saying? if chelski draw with boro then its ok for pool to draw with boro cause the former champs dint win?
No wonder they’ll finish a disappointing fourth, cause even arsenal players think they have a shot at the premiership,liverpool are still chasing chelski,not chasing the title
July 31st, 2007 @ 12:09The point of THIS article was not “did he insult United?”. The point was/is “Why did he not say ‘we are the team to beat’”. What he should have said was something like “whoever finish above us will be champions”.
Their fans all believe so (ranting and raving about how Stevie and Torres will take over the Premiership), then why not the players themselves? Why is there a gap between what the fans believe and what the players believe?
@frank
“Your lot won, but they never dominated, while we beat the chavs yet we have not dominated them, which means there is more luck about your victories.
When you win without domination you know there is plenty of work to be done, when you lose after dominating, you then know you have some more work to do.”
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!
When you win, you win, when you lose, you lose. You don’t have to go to University to know that is how football works.
Either way, you have work to do because the other teams ALSO evolve. (perhaps this silly philosophy can explain why you cannot get your hands on the league).
Liverpool were totaly dominated by Milan (both finals). What does that say about you theory?
July 31st, 2007 @ 13:49Good to have you back Karl
July 31st, 2007 @ 14:44Thanks Liam.
Taking on the scousers again I see
July 31st, 2007 @ 14:54It never stops does it
July 31st, 2007 @ 15:23Karl, we cant win with your lot, we are either luck so&so’s for winning or we’re simply bad for dominating and loosing to a luck goal. You bunch of manure planks are almost as deranged as the chavs. Except of course you have the right to be hypocrites while the rest of us have to live with reality and some logic. You can’t have it each way when it suits you bunch of over indulged prawn chewers.
July 31st, 2007 @ 15:54Frank, is that seriously the best you can do?
Perhaps if you use proper arguments, you can convince me. I’m not unreasonable.
I did not say nor imply that you’re lucky, You did. With your own comments. I just merely pointed it out.
What do you mean by hypocrites? I hope its not the Heinze/Tevez thing? (btw, Tevez transfer = Mascherano transfer) who’s being hypocrites here?
July 31st, 2007 @ 16:08“…while the rest of us have to live with reality and some logic.”
What logic? The same logic as comment# 28?
July 31st, 2007 @ 16:13You total bunch of Liverscum knobs. You can only beat Chelsea in one off games apart from the game in the premo where we were without Terry, Carvalio, Macka, Essien missing out of mid field and stuck in defence and even Bridge was asked to play as a striker. If memory serves me well then I think we came to Evertons old ground, Assfield and whipped you 1 – 4 when we had no injuries. This year you are not even going to make it to the champions league as your going to finish behind the likes of Tottenham and Arsenal. After all, wasn’t that your first team that got knocked out of both English cups by the Aresenal youth team? Sorry but I can only laugh at you lot of tossers saying your going to win the premo this year, Same thing year in year out.
July 31st, 2007 @ 16:42Karl, I will attempt to debate with you reasonably and hope we can enjoy some mature opinions.
The point of the debate here is the meaning behind Carra’s comments. He believes as most people do IMO that the Chavs are the team to beat and I cant see where the problem with that comment is! Your lot won the EPL last season and frankly I lived with mixed feelings when confronted with the choice between those loathsome Chavs and your lot. You can imagine the emotional turmoil! However, no one would argue with any sense that you did not deserve the EPL, though this has to be tempered by the fact that the Chavs did miss their most important players. Had manure been without your key players such as Ronaldo and Scholes last term then I doubt you would have had the same success.
Further to this I also believe that though your style of play is far superior to the Chavs, I still feel their tactics and squad is far more effective. Unfortunately ugly football is more effective than pretty football as has been proved over the years. It’s rare indeed to see a team such as the Brazil of 1970 who manage to totally dominate a competition while playing such expansive and free football. Normally such teams get so far and then they hit a wall such as Barca did against both the Chavs and LFC.
Though I would love to see the Chavs in third or even lower position in the League I doubt that this would transpire. Should you agree with this point then you must also agree with what Carra said.
As for our recent encounters, it has been a true pain to see us dominate and not have that cutting edge to make the difference while your lot get that last minute goal and the points and as far as the records go, you won. That dose not mean you won by being superior to us, but rather luck to an extent while possibly being a more complete team after being under the same management for such a long time and having the luxury of serious investment for decades. There is no shame in winning in this way, just as there is no shame in being the inferior team when winning a title.
Our story with Chavs is different however, as I get the feeling its Rafa that has beaten Maureen and not necessarily 1 team beating another. I get more nervous when playing the Chavs, which is not the case with your lot. I just wait for the last minute jammy winner after we miss the target 20 times! That dose not mean you didn’t win, it just mean you can take a different view of each team. Personally, I would rather beat your lot to the EPL and leave the Chavs to compete with the Ars and Spunk for third spot. Just can’t see it!!!
I look forward to your informed views.
July 31st, 2007 @ 17:44Yeah sure Frank if United had have been missing important players like Vidic, Rio, Neville, Evra and Saha for the last 1-2 months of the season then Chelsea being the superior team with all of there players(Cech and Terry) back for that period would have caught up….wait a minute United did have their whole backline out and also their best Striker from the first half of the season out. Meanwhile Chelsea had their Gk and 1 CB out for one month (it was actually less I think for Terry, obviously more for Cech) and that month was the transfer window where they could have easily bought players to cover. United didn’t have that luxury but did you hear Ferguson go and moan to the press like Mourinho? No he just got on with the task at hand. Chelsea got stung because they had no defensive cover whereas United had players who actually play in that position to cover.
P.S. I think Chelsea could finish 3rd this year because in case you forgot Drogba, Essien and Mikel are all out for January. That means that they are without a great goalscorer unless Sheva proves us wrong and they are without a midfield enforcer.
July 31st, 2007 @ 18:16Liam O’Kelly, I was trying to have an intelligent conversation with Karl, but if you wish for the childish banter that passes for debate on here, lets see.
IMO the Chavs thrives on their defence especially Terry & Cech and Drogba in attack. Also IMO the manure thrive on attacking midfield as in Ronlado, Rooney, Giggs and Scholes. I view Rooney as attacking mid to secondary striker as opposed to a leader of the line.
I don’t think that the Chavs have a chance of any silverware should you take out the three I mentioned just as your lot would stand no chance should two or three of the list above go missing.
That’s not an insult but FACT. You won, great, that dose not mean you’re the favourite this time around. Plank
PS never thought there was a bigger moaner than Maureen, so get of your high horse and calm down, calm down.
July 31st, 2007 @ 20:51Frank! Piss off you twat. You take Steve G out of Liverscum and you wont win nothing either. Wait a minute, you had him in the squad last year and only managed the charity shield. Muppits…………..
July 31st, 2007 @ 21:28there isn’t only one team to beat. Liverpool, Chelsea and Man. United have strengthened their squads and will be teams to beat. Arsenal could also prove to be title contenders this season, I’m not sure how they’ll do this season.
July 31st, 2007 @ 22:44I think Carragher only said that about Chelsea to put pressure on them, and piss off Man. United fans
What is the problem with his comments? Lots of Chelsea players have said this season that ManUtd is the team to beat, and I haven’t been upset by those comments as a Blue supporter. In Carragher’s eyes, the Blues are the main threat this season.
I think a big part of the problem that a lot of Utd fans will ahve with this statement is that they would easily dismiss it as a compliment if it were their own club, but instead are pissed that Carragher is respected and believes Chelsea to be the top dog.
July 31st, 2007 @ 23:04Its not an issue of whether he said Man Utd was the team to beat, or Chelsea…..the issue is simply, why isn’t he saying its Liverpool? I don’t get how saying that someone is the team to beat puts pressure on them. I think Karl got that.
July 31st, 2007 @ 23:24Arsenal will win the Prem hands down by October. Youth has matured, no more whining divorcee #14 and Blues and Reds too worried about eachother to recognize the seeds of Wenger sprouting to the championship.
August 1st, 2007 @ 01:22Blah blah baah Manu, Pool and Blue will wallow in sadness as Arsenal claim another title in style.
I certainly give Arsenal the bigest chance.
August 1st, 2007 @ 04:01Boom! Gunners!, I want whatever you’re drinking, because you’re delusional.
August 1st, 2007 @ 05:53Little Blue, such an inelegant retort to my comments, I suppose you’re the pride of year 3 at your school, chav plank without the screws!!! Come back when you actually have something to say that involves brain cells.
Brian W, at last a man with a brain and is not afraid to use it.
Brian Lomax, there is no point in saying that LFC is the team to beat when we were some 20 points of the top last term. We have to prove we are the team to beat. It’s idiotic to be shouting from the rooftops before you have something to shout about. Between the top two, one is the team to beat and in Carra’s opinion it’s the Chavs. The morons need to calm down, calm down!!! Or just book into the asylum.
August 1st, 2007 @ 12:31See Brian W it’s people like Little Blue who make Chelsea the most hated club. After years of it being United I didn’t think it would ever change but then along came Roman and he brought the bandwagon with him so now all the dumbass glory hunters that I’m sorry to say once littered United’s fan base have shifted. If you look at the ‘Lucky Liverpool’ post you will see that he is apparently a hooligan also.
By the way I don’t have a problem with what Carragher said it’s just all of the(for some reason) smug ‘Pool fans who think that because Carragher said it then it must be true. Honestly I agree that the title race is hard to call this year and that someone here will probably be getting a bashing (verbal) come October. I mean is it not possible that Arsenal could win it. I think they could. Chelsea I don’t think will be the best team this season because of Drogba and Essien missing what is probably the most important time of the season. Then you have ‘Pool who have just like they have every season since Rafa took over comletely changed the look of their side and like with recent seasons they will need time to adapt. Then United who were the best team last season will only have 2 new first team players (Hargreaves, Tevez) and have added cover in case something happens to Giggs and Scholes. Although due to the selling of Rossi (big mistake) Anderson may have to be cover for Rooney and Tevez because if Smith is sold that is the one area in which we don’t have great cover.I still think that United have more quality all over the pitch than ‘Pool who lack good wingers (in my opinion Babel is a better striker). It’s just my opinion and you honestly expect me not to defend my club?
August 1st, 2007 @ 13:20Just woke up to news about rossi transfer,sux ball i really thought he would have been great at united,but i gueaa with rooney,and tevez it would have been hard o break into the team
August 1st, 2007 @ 14:36To me Carragher’s comments are just putting the pressure on the other teams. I think, it remains to be seen, whether Liverpool are a stronger side this coming season than the last. They have sold just as many, as they have bought, and except from Torres, I have my doubts as the whether the rest can strengthen their team.
I think Carragher undeliberately is spot on about his own team not being the ones to beat. That MU is really top dogs is another matter, and I’m sure Carragher is just trying to piss off his bitter rivals from Manchester.
Oh, and the fact that he hopes, Tevez doesn’t join Man Utd. is showing his fear of our attacking options, and I’m pretty sure, Tevez will join us in August, so Carragher can have his nightmares outlived.
August 1st, 2007 @ 15:02But Frank, what makes Chelsea the team to beat? They finished second last season. Technically, wouldn’t it be man utd who would be the team to beat? Either way, since L’Pool spent all that money, I would hope that they would have the confidence in themselves to say that they are the team to beat.
August 1st, 2007 @ 21:17well if united had a good season then i dont think tey r a threat the truth is nobody had a good season espiecally poor arsenal.
so united and chelsea players got injured u guys have far far more squad memmbers than liverpool and arsenal so just fuk up and take ur oil.
Liverpool can beat any team wen we focus on them now with enough first teamers we can do that in every game.
i am not trying to start a fight i just simply want to enjoy a league that dosent get decided on 2 teams.
August 2nd, 2007 @ 03:31Brian, its all a matter of opinion and you may notice I have already mentioned the difference between the Chavs and yourselves and were I think the Chavs are more efficient. The stats, I believe, show the more efficient teams being more successful. Though manure played the better football, and won deservedly (difficult for a red to say, but the truth is just that) the Chavs missed the reasons for their efficiency, which is the triangle, or even diamond in front of goal. Cech, Terry, Carvalho and then Makka what ever (not the best speller in the world!!!).
IMO your strength is at the front where you terrify teams with your attacks. This only works when the other side is intimidated, against us you deployed a defensive stance and that served you well against us, but generally you relay on attack and with the EPL being all about kicking attackers off the ball and getting away with it, the Chavs are the best suited squad for that and that’s the opinion I hold and probably the one Carra holds though it wouldn’t be right to make such assumptions.
August 2nd, 2007 @ 12:31Seems like all the “fans” of whatever bunch of overpaid, sometimes highly talented footballers are in a bit of a pissing contest!!! and all this based on the comments of said footballers, money spent and so called misguided passion.. I have never been fortunate enough to watch a game live, and spite of being a “Manure” fan, as you “original” fans say, I am very very excited to watch a league filled with so many skilled superstars!!! You have a long season to rant and rave. so wet your pants in anticipation and keep your gobs shut!!!
August 2nd, 2007 @ 15:52boring article. if carragher thinks pool is a lesser team, so does heinze think of utd… wanting 2 go.. personally, i don’t care what players, managers, fans say … all the talking on the pitch ,i say. but i’ve seen some cheeky predictins above about winning the epl so….
manu 17 percent. bought 2 many players unproven in epl or in leagues 2 different from it. but the squad from last year is still there. however, scholes is already injured n ronaldo doesn’t have that surprise factor anymore. probably teams like boro will -ah- destroy him ( remember, diving in 3 games against them )
chelsea 20 percent. still horrible dominating football with one goals-matches. bought in quality for ‘reserves’ 4 little money… i’m impressed. so no worry of injuries. sheva n ballack will prove their worth… on the other hand, there is tje african cup, n lampard… 4 those 2 factors chelsea can lose the title.. again
arsenal 9 percent. henry sold… didn’t play much seems 2 say gooners fans. yeah, but when he played he won the fa cup match against us pool by his mere presence. bought replacement 4 him in a striker from i don’t no where. i don’t doubt his qualities. wenger buys are quality usually.. but he needs 2 adapt. babel has choosen liverpool, there the new keeper n that’s pretty much it… um,the squad has matured but still lacks leadership. i can’t fault aldebayor as a player but he is not the sort of striker who wins the title 4 u. mind rio does a good job @ manu… i still wonder how… will probably focus on cups…
spurs 11 percent. brought in quality ( i’m not refering 2 bent). did not let quality go( unlike the season before selling carrick) like ronaldo , berbatov will no more have that surprise factor but spurs have the most fearsome strikeforce in the epl. defence has become stronger… maturing of dawson, no injuries 2 king , chimbonda not going, arrival of bale.. the centre however is woefully weak( compared 2 big guys) in their quest 4 4th place they may end up title challengers…
the rest 43 percent. that a bit large but ‘the rest’ do contain liverpool. i have not written about liverpool cause i’m a red fan n i can be abit biased . the percentage is still large because the league has not started. by february i expect it 2 be manu:chelsea:pool 1:3:x….
August 2nd, 2007 @ 20:30Ok, my earlier comments were a bit biased…
I like where demonrho is coming from though. Seems a pretty fair transfer round-up. Although I do think that Arsenal has the maturation x-factor that could push their % higher (biased, maybe). If it is ever going to happen for the young guns why not this year?
All in all Carraghers comments were one mans take (and an honest one at that) on how the prem could be seen. Realistically it is a toss up of who will be the team to beat ManU or Russkies. C choose Russkies and he is probably right.
And Arsenal will be the team to do it (damn, bias rears its ugly head again).
August 3rd, 2007 @ 01:17Who cares now. Poor Carra…. His last line has got a fitting reply.
August 3rd, 2007 @ 12:27Tevez is coming in!!!!!!!!!!
@frank
I’m sorry I cannot continue to debate on your comments at this point in time. I’m just trying to sort out some personall issues. But, I will respond in next week (if you’re still interested).
August 3rd, 2007 @ 13:49Karl, don’t worry mate, its not like it’s a matter of life and death, its just footy fans having their opinions and banter, just don’t let the ones I enjoy winding up know that. If you have the time to respond I would be delighted to debate with you. You might want to share your thoughts on the form of your defence at the moment, is it something to worry about or is it just preseason tuning?
August 3rd, 2007 @ 15:08Man, I love debates like this. My comment makes it 70 for the article. Keep it up guys.
August 3rd, 2007 @ 19:42Tevez is now officially a United player. YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. hard luck there Carra but you’re getting rings run around you when you play us.
August 3rd, 2007 @ 20:03stupid man united fans everyone already knew tevez wud be in the man u strip next season Tevez is an absoloute killer but it does not worry me.
Torres and drogba r both a hundred times better sorry to give u a reality check but thats the facts.
now if u got messi id be worried
August 4th, 2007 @ 02:07Oi Little Blue, What the hell you on about Liverpool can only beat you in 1 off games, even if that is true notice that its always the most important game like champions league and have you noticed we won the champions league 5 time you’ve only won it oh sorry i forght you had won 1 then but your not good enough to win anything you can olny buy it
August 4th, 2007 @ 02:12So Liverpool_fan tell me how many times you’ve seen this amazing Torres play to show that he is a hundred times better IMO the only thing he is better for is missing penalties.
August 4th, 2007 @ 15:21Well being a fan of spain and also wacthing argentina a fair amount of times i think i can tell. Its it bit obvious ur a united fan to united fans the more penalties a player scores the better they r
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May i say good luck to Tevez in his new season and wen liverpool play Man u i cant wait to see mascherano nightmare tevez shud be good fun.
Christiano Ronaldo missed nearly double the amount of penaltys torres has see the only thing Ronaldo is good for is giving away the ball and scoring 10 penaltys a season.
August 4th, 2007 @ 19:38Actually if you had any knowledge you would know that Ronaldo is probably the best penalty taker around and hasn’t missed one since he started taking them and he scored a penalty for Portugal in a World Cup penalty shootout and also if a player scored 10 penalties in a season that would be more than Torres would score from open play. Maybe when Pennant starts scoring 17 league goals you can talk about Ronaldo.
P.S. I’m also a fan of Spain in fact Atletico are one of my favourite teams but they are only on 3 or 4 times a season at the very most so that can’t be enough to judge a player on
August 5th, 2007 @ 03:10Bull shit straight talker..Both Liverfool and Carrag(er)sucks
August 5th, 2007 @ 16:58If this is a way to slag Gerrard missing a penalty may i say i live in ireland and i dont like england I was born there but dont support em.
And plus Gerrard may not score all does crappy 12 yard wonder goals Ronaldo Expertly Takes. But may i just point out that Ronaldo Rings the Weaker Defences and scores penalties on the big occasions.
Gerrard however takes a little bit further than twelve yards and does it in the Fa cup Final and The Last Group Stage Game.
Fact is if Gerrard Played for Man u he wud get everything handed to him like Rooney and Ronaldo but he fought for every scrap of reputation hes got but still nobody Rates him as well as he is!!
August 6th, 2007 @ 17:34the liverpool fans think that carra is tryin to piss United with his comments..
the reality of his comments, is that carra is shouting “BUY ME! BUY ME!” over chelsea..
obviously carra is gonna be out of liverpool by the end of this new season if liverpool dont win anything again..
hes already tired of this spanish-ed liverpool.
August 7th, 2007 @ 03:59oi Slivertoes,
im gunna say 1 thing to you and thats carra is going knowhere apart from colleting player of the season when we beat chelsea and man u by 2 or 3 goals your just a wasteman if you keep chatting crap about Liverpool mans we might have to meet up and then ill stab you
RED KNIFE
August 7th, 2007 @ 14:52