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I think I’ve finally figured out how to win in OFM (online football manager).

There were several strategies mentioned in the comments section of the previous report but I think that:

  • you need to develop your own strategy based on the players you have
  • you should adapt your strategy to suit your opponents (and conditions – home vs away)
  • you should watch what the league toppers are doing and learn from them

Right now I’m using a 3-4-3 formation, ‘Hard’ style of play, passing game (overall tactics), +1 offensive mentality (one behind extremely offensive), man-to-man defensive tactics, offside trap off and pressing on. Defenders are set to ‘stay back’, midfielders ‘support attackers’ and the attackers are set to ‘attack only’.

I’m playing Arsenal and I adopted the above strategy after losing 0-3 at home to Chelsea. Result? 5 games, 5 wins, 21 goals scored, 0 conceded. From outside the top 10 back into the top 6 and gunning for 4th spot (although only half the season is left).

I took the 3-4-3 formation from the team that beat me last (Chelsea), but the rest has been part intuition and part learning experience.

It also helps to train your players like crazy buggers, although someone must explain to me how Manchester United have several players with 100 on some of their ratings – can training improve you that much or is there something else going on that I’ve missed?

All in all, it’s more fun once you learn to win and start playing with the big boys (who are usually way more experienced than you).

I’d be interested in hearing more from regular OFM users on their strategies on playing the game. And if you aren’t playing OFM yet, I suggest you sign up today – easily one of the best online football games around.

Also see: Previous articles on Online Football Manager.

Comments (192)

  1. Well in regards to your question about say man Utd having several 100+ players…

    It is because they train their good players (say Ronaldo, Rooney, a young keeper and defender)

    These players are possibly all under 21. Th younger the player the better they train.

    Also if your a season ticket manager (not me) you can buy a thing where you have a training camp/field that doubles the training speed.

    But basically when I choose a lower quality team, I go for the players that are 17-22 years old/

    A player like Ekkriem (he is 16 and turning 17 and is in Man Utd on it).

  2. Oh come on! Is it more addictive than FM? (Honest opinions please!)

  3. Decent game, although i imagine it to be even more fun to be a season ticket holder (which i am not). They’ve got a lot of cool features available for season ticket holders although thankfully, the league i’m in has only 3 of them.

    I usually use a 4-3-3 (3-4-3 on occasion when i feel like mixing it up a bit). Took me 2 games to start winning with Livorno in the Serie A & currently in 5th place. I use all of the same tactics as you mentioned above except that i ‘play wide’. One time i decided to play defensive against AS Roma with a ‘counterattack’ option, defenders staying back, midfield supporting defenders & attackers always on attack and i won 3-0 on home ground so that was fun.

    I agree on the training part. Its crucial to balance the finances, especially if you have a weak team at the start, coz then you can buy key players & develop them well. Some train harder than others at the same level & younger players improve faster than older ones. Also, the more often you play someone young, the more they will improve as well during the season.

    Apparently training fields magnify the effectiveness of individual training, but its a feature only available for season ticket holders. Important to have medical staff coz the players heal faster.

    One more thing is to check the fixtures for what kind of referee you have for each of your games, coz they have different levels of strictness & you should adjust the level you play at accordingly.

    I was wondering if the top teams in the leagues also play champions league matches in addition to the cup & premier league matches within the season schedule? I don’t know anything about that.

    Good game overall, & the newspaper section cracks me up everytime i read it.

  4. Nope – which is a good thing :) FM can literally take your life away and reduce to a drooling slob.

    As drugs go, it’s definitely one of the worse ones :)

    I can be done with OFM in a few minutes (more if I have subaccounts) :)

    I love FM, but I don’t want to throw my life away to it.

  5. As someone else explained up there the younger the player the more chance there is of them improving and when you are a season ticket holder (only around £2 for 40 days) you can improve your facilities like the training fields to improve the amount at which your player improves, stadium increase which will get you more money each day and a food cart which will also increase the amount of money you get each night. Even though it does cost money i would aprove of it if you are willing to pay a small fee, you can also scout the best players from europe too and improve your squad rather than buying players already on the transfer market.Also as you have mentioned adapting your own strategy will work after a while when you have become more experienced and know what to do to improve the chances of you winning.Once you do have it then you should start to notice then difference and stick to the same strategy as i have done after my first season. Well good luck in your OFM career, hope some of that helped in some way lol

  6. When i played a season with as roma, my whole team had 100+ lol
    okaka: 110
    rooney: 107
    de rossi: 117
    aquilani: 110
    C. ronaldo: 105
    fabregas: 102
    bovo: 101
    mexes: 101
    vandenborre: 104
    kompany: 102
    curci: 115

    i did had a season ticket and they improve by +2 evry time, sometimes +1 with the training field improved. its not that hard to get players above 100, just some patience and guts cuz i let my star players train when i had to play against top teams as ac milan and internazionale.

  7. Fiddle with formation to match your oppoent…Season ticket is better.

  8. Definitely on of the better management games on the net. I would recommend getting a season ticket as the additional options that you get are well worth the money. Most of all is the ability to scout for the best players in whichever position you desire. My favorite overall tactic is play wide which has reaped many rewards. Currently top of the table with newcastle united by 10 points. Other tactical options are adapted according to the strictness of the referee as well as the opposition I am facing.

  9. erm i had a hard time becos i donno which formation to use is either 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 den i play wide , i play the most offensive tatic cuz i believe attacking is 1 of the best way 2 defend no offside trap n play pressing game my defender is upcoming bak midfielder support attacking n attacker attack only i tink tis tatics works

  10. one question to those people who play ‘wide’:

    what formation are you using? my team got massacred the two times we played wide with 442

  11. In my opinion, formations suited for the “play wide” options are 433 or 343.

  12. Some good discussions going on here …

    Ahmed is correct when he talks about the relative simple yet addictive nature of OFM … in a recent poll we conducted 35% of players said that they loved OFM because “It’s simple & easy to play”

    Season tickets are also seen by many as a way to gain a much needed advantage in their quests for league domination … and picking up on the scouting subject …. 37% of our tickets holders are saying that they buy their tickets because they want to use the scouting feature.

    Finally in reply to Ahmed’s question … playing wide is definitely better suited to a 3 striker formation.

    Good luck to all of you … existing & new managers.

  13. umm…i play wide with a 4-4-2 playing with fulham….and i have to say that i generally get the desired results….with a this stratefy i went on 7 match winning streak and..before which i got thrashed in 3 consecutive games..

  14. those 3 defeats were with various formations including the 3 4 3 and 4 3 3

  15. Play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 when playing wide. I think if you are up against an especially stronger team than your own, the best bet is to be defensive & counterattack. But that sort of thing can vary as well. For example when i was defensive against ac milan (i’m livorno btw) i won, but against inter i lost & there wasn’t much separating the 2 teams in terms of quality of players.

    Another interesting thing i’ve noticed is the match reports that tell you (even if you are NOT a season ticket holder) the kind of formation the opposing team used. If you play enough games you might be able to spot a trend of what works better against particular teams, provided they are using similar formations & have similar quality of players (i think).

    I would say being a season ticket holder definitely gives you a huge advantage over other teams. I’m half-serious about getting that if i start to become really crap at this game. So far i’m doing fine. 5th place in the league with the highest i reached was 3rd. Not bad for Livorno & only half-way through the season.

  16. it figures – i played wide with 4-4-2 and got hammered. might try ‘wide’ with 3-4-3 today, although why rock the boat when i’m kicking butt?

  17. You know, this is an ideal topic for a forum.

  18. i am with blackburn and at the start played 442 and passing game, because thats what i did the previos season with middlesbrough at it worked really well, i finished 9th.
    as it turns out i got massacred at the start of the season and was 15th at one stage. i changed to 433 and play wide and have won 17 of my last 20 matches and am in 5th with a good chance of making top 3. i just beat chelsea 3-0 so these tactics really work for me.

  19. RR – wait a bit :)

  20. Well … if you’re a weak team (aiming for 10/13/16 position) focus on defenders … buy defenders from those who are aiming for 1st and 4th place in your league…

    If u’re a strong team (aiming for 1/4/7)… focus on attackers … camp at the player transferlist and pray that a torres or a adriano would pop up (have enought cash though)… buying players wif other clubs aiming for 1st is also an option tough …

  21. sorry need to subscribe to the page !!

  22. hey guys, thanks a lot for the comments, but can we please keep the discussion to OFM? I’ll open up another thread for comparing different online footy management games next week, and you guys can suggest / cover other games then.

    thanks again

  23. ahh Ahmed you are such a spoilsport hahahahaha

  24. Hi, upon reading your article i went straight to my blackburn team on OFM and changed all my tactics to the same as you reccommended above and i have used them for the last 22 games and i have won 15 drew 1 and lost 6. which compared to the start of the season is a dramatic improvement!!! thanks!

  25. Ahmad all the leagues called things like Ahmad’s Premiership and Ahmad’s LFP. I hope it is because there the only leagues ill play in! LOL

  26. I being chelsea playin 4-5-1 shoot on sight and it works. Played 2 Won 2. Signed Aimar next Torres.

  27. what is the best formation for a team like wigan and the style of play etc???????

  28. with that season in blackburn i managed to finish 3rd!!!! now with athletic de bilbao and in 9th (expected 10th) and am in the final od the cup. the top 6 teams are all eliminated and i hope i beat deportivo la coruna in the final, but that is ages away.

  29. I’m using Wigan Athletic and I’m currently in fifth! LOL!

  30. Yo yo yo, I’m pr0 at this game xDDDDDDDD. Guess what, i came 4th with fulham. Tactics: 451 counterattack xDDDDDDDDDDDD

  31. I’m using 3-4-3 and hard style of play, man to man, offside trap n pressing, n defenders stay back, midfielders neutral, n strikers attack only n i have not lost a match n my team is villareal n i beat teams like barcelona, real madrid n sevilla n all of them had more power than me n the scores were like 3-0 to me n players stremghts were 90′s while ders wer hundreds. i think this is the best tactic to win easy with no hasle any questions ?

  32. [shoyeb]
    Is that 343A or 343B?

  33. It’s 3-4-3a make sure you play wide and play quite offensive because this is a very offensive tactic put you strongest striker at front and the next strongest striker on the right and then to the left, 2 strongest midfielders in the middle and strongest defender in middle and strongest goalie.

  34. your bound to win if you do this tactic and make sure to train players regualary it helps!!! any questions ?

  35. Thanks Shoyeb. I tried it. it works great.
    Does the 424 counter against 343 actually work?
    I tried a 451 counter against 343 and got humiliated.
    I have a game coming up against a “average” but “successful” 343 team (away). What do you suppose the best counter is, and why?

    Anyone knows what the following mean:
    1) The difference between Attackers “Fall Back” and Attackers “Assist Midfielders”?
    2) What is “Pressing”? Does this mean the entire team presses forward, or only the backs?
    3) The difference between Defenders “Push Up” and “Assist Midfielders”?

  36. The best thing to do for you now is to play really offensive or really defensive

    Offensive – 3-4-3a
    - pressing
    - extreme style of play
    - man to man
    - play wide
    - no offside trap
    - Play fully offensive
    Defenders – stay back
    Midfielders – neutral
    Strikers – attack onlly
    Do your line up how ever you want but it must be quite strong. In my opinion i think that this is the most offensive and powerfullest tactic that make’s sure you’ll win but you will need the right team and good players on your line up.

    Defensive – 4-4-2b
    - Offiside trap on
    - No pressing
    - Zonal
    - long ball
    - play very defensive
    - Hard style of play
    Defenders – stay back
    Midfielders – support defense
    Strikers – support midfielders

    Do your line that you think will help you most (best players) this is a very defensive tactic there is a 5% of losing 5% winning and 90% chance of drawing this tactic is for the playing the very strong teams that you have doubts of winning.

    I advise to play offensive if your team is equal or better to your opponents but other wise play defensive. play around with the tactics a bit but stick to da guidlines that i’ve given you and you win for sure because i’ve never lost a match with these tactics.

    Any questions ?

  37. Thanks for your help shoyeb. If you play against a equal team you are home he uses 4-5-1 shoot-on-sight, which are the best formation and tactics to use in order to win. I beat almost every formation but i always suck against 4-5-1 shoot-on-sight. Does the 3-4-3 play wide mentioned above works? Do you now any formation in particular against 4-5-1 sh. on s.
    Thanks,

  38. yes it does 3-4-3a offensive always works for me hope it works for you remeber to have strong strikers. ill reseach on more unbeatable tactics for you.

    Any questions ?

  39. also think of an oppiste formation in head for example 442
    use 424 you’ll a strong strike and defense. but be careful of your midefielders because sometimes they decide the outcome of the game.

    Any questions ?

  40. Thanks Shoyeb. I really appreciate all your help.

    One last question…
    How do you find playing against 433?
    I’ve noticed that some teams playing 433 have (more often than not) more possesion against 343 (according to the match results).
    Do you reckon this to be more offensive?

  41. it’s mostly the same its just they(4-4-3a,b) have strong defense but you(3-4-3a) have a better midfield and midfielders greatly contribute to the match and they do more than defense. also at times they decide the out come of your match.

    more gaols = win match
    less goals scored = lose or draw match

  42. By the way 3-4-3a is more offensive
    sorry i did not answer that for you in the first comment
    Any questions ?

  43. which formation is better against what?
    i have man city and my match is against newcastle utd and they have a 3-4-3 formation.
    someone help me

  44. be careful using extreme as it injures your players and your likely to lose players to suspensions, if you got a big squad don’t be afraid to use it, but if like most people you use a smaller squad to make it more trainable, don’t.

    i can’t see any problems with the 3-4-3 above, except the extreme part, i’d go hard myself.

    a good formation for smaller teams (s’land, derby etc.) is 5-4-1 counter attack, i’m currently 2nd in the prem by 2points and have been 1st a few times using it.

    - 5-4-1 (either a or b, depending on the players you have)
    - counter attack
    - hard
    - pressing on
    - no man mark
    - no offside
    - attack only
    - midfield support attack
    - def stay back (i am currently trying full backs going forward)

    - mentality set to halfway

    This formation does work for smaller teams and if you have a goal of 15th you’ll at least finish 10th, i haven’t finished lower than 3rd using this formation. i am currently playing around with the formation to see if man marking or upcoming backs works better.

    anyone know how to get the 4-4-2 to work? can’t figure it out yet, preferably an attacking formation (play wide or passing).

  45. I think for my opinion the best formation is 4-3-3 or 3-4-3

  46. HELP!! I’m Sunderland from the Land of Sunder! I’m playing Away against Newcastle United and they’re using 4-3-3 formation “Playing Wide”. I’m really dependant on my 85average Midfielders & 82average Defenders. My Strikers are 82average. I wonder if 5-4-1 Counter-Attack works on them…
    (Both Offside Trap & Pressing are off)
    Defender Stay Back
    Midfielders Support Attackers
    Attackers Attack only

    …Any suggestions u pro people? Really appreciate it…THX^^

  47. noobieboobie try 4-5-1b and shoot on sight mentality quite defensive and offisde trap and pressing on. hope it works

  48. I followed your suggestion except I played wide and won(2-0). I wonder wat would happen if i was to put shoot on sight? (4-0)? Anyway, Thanx for the Help, u r proooo maaaan! ^^ Sunderland is going for tenth!!

  49. oh, I forgot to ask one thing…have you guys noticed that chelsea has been losing to an inferior team lately? blackburn (4-0), Wigan (3-0), my team (2-1 playing away).
    They were using the same tactics and formation. Or is it only happening in my league?

  50. itz probaly ure league

  51. noobieboobie check out the tactics above that i used with sunderland, and finished 3rd, and i could have won the league had i not drawn to bottom of the league on the 3rd to last game.

  52. Wooow! Really? My Sunderland started at the very bottom of the table when i joined at middle of the season. Then moved up to 11th until now…I don’t have to go against the big teams looking at the schedule ahead…But u reached 3rd using Sunderland?!?!! OMG! That’s incredible mate! but did u buy better players and sold almost every sunderland’s player? hahaha! aaah…I suk at this game…Sagrub and Shoyeb seemed to be the pros in here…

    Anyway, playing 5-4-1 counter attack..can it beat 3-4-3, 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 play wide effectively?

  53. NoobieBoobie, not really, it’s a bit more complex, it also depends on the strength of the opponent, and the Advanced tactics setting.
    3-4-3 play wide is one of the best tactics when you have a good team and quite hard to beat.
    4-5-1 shoot on sight on the other hand is one of the best tactics when you have a weaker team.
    4-3-3 play wide is also quite effective…

    With Arsenal I was champion using mostly 3-4-3 play wide, with the following setting:
    Style-> Hard
    Mentality-> 3/4 to Offensive
    Defensive tactic-> Man-to-Man(most times)
    offside trap-> off
    Pressing-> On
    Defense-> Stay back
    Midfield-> Support attack(most times)
    Attack-> Attack Only

    With Fulham, I was Champion(!) and won the Cup(!), using mostly 4-5-1 Shoot On Sight…
    The differences to the previous tatics were:
    Defensive tactic-> Zonal
    Midfield-> Neutral

    In my experience these are the wining tactics in OFM but 4-5-1 Shoot On Sight is particularly hard to beat…

    Now this is not all when it comes to win, there are a lot of factors, like the opponent tactic and strength, home or away, having a season ticket(quite a help), and luck!

    But most of all, it’s management that makes the difference. You should reinforce your team properly, train the players wisely, and adjust to you opponent.
    And learn what tactics beats others but always be aware of the difference between teams and the home/away factor.

    I’ll leave you a few more tips:

    Transfers(to the computer)
    - The computer won’t buy players over 10M, and rarely over 9M.
    - Young players seem to be more easily sold than old players
    - When you’re having a hard time selling a player try lowering the price 200.000

    Training camps
    - When you’re a weaker team, don’t use training camps against the best teams, use them against the direct opponents specially those you think harder to beat!
    - Don’t use training camps in the first half of the season, keep them to decisive games in the second half(your direct opponents might change).

    Training players
    - Use your trainings to train players that are in the average of that sector, and not players under average. Sell your weaker players and get players above the your sector’s average.
    - Use rotation to consistently raise you team skill. For instances if you use 4 midfielders, try to have 5 to play( with similar skills) and train one of them per match, then put him to play again. This will give you a stable sector and keep your players fresh!
    - Player over 27 are specially hard to train, so don’t have to many…

    P.S.: I really don’t like the effectiveness of the 4-5-1 Shoot on sight, because it’s too far from reality and makes it quite easy to win a league if you know when to change in order to avoid certain tactics that can defeat 4-5-1 shoot on sight…

  54. NoobieBoobie, not really, it’s a bit more complex, it also depends on the strength of the opponent, and the Advanced tactics setting.
    3-4-3 play wide is one of the best tactics when you have a good team and quite hard to beat.
    4-5-1 shoot on sight on the other hand is one of the best tactics when you have a weaker team.
    4-3-3 play wide is also quite effective…

    With Arsenal I was champion using mostly 3-4-3 play wide, with the following setting:
    Style-> Hard
    Mentality-> 3/4 to Offensive
    Defensive tactic-> Man-to-Man(most times)
    offside trap-> off
    Pressing-> On
    Defense-> Stay back
    Midfield-> Support attack(most times)Attack-> Attack Only
    -

    With Fulham, I was Champion(!) and won the Cup(!), using mostly 4-5-1 Shoot On Sight…
    The differences to the previous tatics were:
    Defensive tactic-> Zonal
    Midfield-> Neutral
    -

    In my experience these are the wining tactics in OFM but 4-5-1 Shoot On Sight is particularly hard to beat…

    Now this is not all when it comes to win, there are a lot of factors, like the opponent tactic and strength, home or away, having a season ticket(quite a help), and luck!

    But most of all, it’s management that makes the difference. You should reinforce your team properly, train the players wisely, and adjust to you opponent.
    And learn what tactics beats others but always be aware of the difference between teams and the home/away factor.

    I’ll leave you a few more tips:

    Transfers(to the computer)
    - The computer won’t buy players over 10M, and rarely over 9M.
    - Young players seem to be more easily sold than old players
    - When you’re having a hard time selling a player try lowering the price 200.000

    Training camps
    - When you’re a weaker team, don’t use training camps against the best teams, use them against the direct opponents specially those you think harder to beat!
    - Don’t use training camps in the first half of the season, keep them to decisive games in the second half(your direct opponents might change).

    Training players
    - Use your trainings to train players that are in the average of that sector, and not players under average. Sell your weaker players and get players above the your sector’s average.
    - Use rotation to consistently raise you team skill. For instances if you use 4 midfielders, try to have 5 to play( with similar skills) and train one of them per match, then put him to play again. This will give you a stable sector and keep your players fresh!
    - Player over 27 are specially hard to train, so don’t have to many…

    P.S.: I really don’t like the effectiveness of the 4-5-1 Shoot on sight, because it’s too far from reality and makes it quite easy to win a league if you know when to change in order to avoid certain tactics that can defeat 4-5-1 shoot on sight…

  55. 4-5-1 a or b better? luis diaz so which r u using?

  56. Thank You Thank u thank u for all of u here!! I’ve Learned so much from u guys! In OFM, there are always exact calculations in every matches, including “LUCK”. But here is what I learnt in General…

    > 5-4-1 Counter Attack wins vs 4-4-2 Passing Game, 4-3-3 Play Wide (I’m still playing around with this formation)

    > I called 4-3-3 & 3-4-3 Play Wide “Lazy Formation” because they counter most of other formations so u don’t need to think too hard except if u are damn addicted to OFM..(NAPOLI currently 4th ^^)

    > 4-5-1 Shoot on Sight / Counter Attack wins vs 4-3-3 Play Wide (Narrow results for Most of the time)

    > For those of u who are having troubles countering 4-5-1 Shoot on Sight: use 3-4-3 Play Wide, defender stay back, mid neutral, attack only… it’s a 45%:55% Win!

    > If you are hopeless…use 6-3-1 HARD, COUNTERATTACK, Mentality FUll DEFENSE, ZONAL, Pressing on, offside trap off/on (doesn’t affect much), DEF stay Back, Mid support DEF, ATT Falll bacccck!!! lastly…Wish for a 0-1 lost, a draw, and a lucky 1-0 WIN!

    Keep in Mind, in reality, PRESSING is almost always necessary…It doesn’t hurt to play HARD…Mentality is set according to your own desire..eg. if u were Derby County playing away against Man United, most probably u would be scared of them…in OFM, set the mentality as full defense or halfway to defense…and use the counter formation i’ve given u…

    Please do let me know if I have some mistakes in my guidelines…afterall, they are guidelines in general…”LUCK” is always included in the calculation…So…GOODLUCK!

    “Failure is the START OF SUCCESS…”
    Sometimes a DISASTER I’d Say…

  57. Oh…I’m still curious how to beat 3-4-3 effectively…5-4-1 counter attack maybe? or perhaps 5-2-3 or 4-2-4 Long balls…

  58. NoobieBoobie I’ll have to disagree with you partially…
    The thing here is that you aren’t considering the difference between teams and that has a huge influence.

    Lets go for an example(I’ll leave advanced tactics out):
    A – 4-5-1 Shoot-on-sight
    B – 3-4-3 Play Wide
    -
    If A and B have the same level, A will win most of the times.
    If A is superior to B, A will win most of the times
    If B is superior to A, B will win most of the times
    (Home factor is being ignored in here…but play a huge roll)
    -
    I can say this based on the league I have with my friends. We have been playing together since the summer and almost everyone is playing 4-5-1 Shoot-On-Sight or 3-4-3 Play Wide.

    Other example:
    A – 4-5-1 Shoot-On-Sight
    B – 4-4-2 Passing Game
    -
    If A and B have the same level, A will win (+-65%) or they’ll draw.
    If A is superior to B, A will win most of the times.
    If B is superior to A, they will probably draw.
    -

    I’m still trying to figure the interactions with Defensive Tactic, Off Side Trap and Pressing.

    I stopped using Off Side Trap in my first weeks of OFM because I was getting a lot of goals. I’ve used it only one time or another since. I’m using it more now to figure what it can do.

    About Pressing I use it in 90% of the games.
    Zonal or Man-to-Man, that’s the question…I think Man-to-Man is better when you’re are stronger or when you have more players than your opponent in defense/midfield.
    Zonal in the other hand is suited for when your team is weaker and I think it’s the right tactic against Play Wide(opponent players are more spread on the field and will provide more crosses, so you better keep your positions to avoid empty spaces and holes in your defense).

    But this is only a vague theory, I’m trying some new tactics to focus on the advanced settings for now.

    P.S.: Don’t “worship” the guys in the top raking of OFM. I’ve been running their profiles and almost everyone in the top 10 is playing in 2nd and 3rd divisions where the leagues have only 5 or 6 human players(some times less), so it’s not that hard to win if you know a few things about OFM tactics…For me the top managers ranking is a “false” classification.

  59. NoobieBoobie I’ll have to disagree with you partially…
    The thing here is that you aren’t considering the difference between teams and that has a huge influence.

    Lets go for an example(I’ll leave advanced tactics out):
    A – 4-5-1 Shoot-on-sight
    B – 3-4-3 Play Wide
    -
    If A and B have the same level, A will win most of the times.
    If A is superior to B, A will win most of the times
    If B is superior to A, B will win most of the times
    (Home factor is being ignored in here…but play a huge roll)
    -
    I can say this based on the league I have with my friends. We have been playing together since the summer and almost everyone is playing 4-5-1 Shoot-On-Sight or 3-4-3 Play Wide.

    Other example:
    A – 4-5-1 Shoot-On-Sight
    B – 4-4-2 Passing Game
    -
    If A and B have the same level, A will win (+-65%) or they’ll draw.
    If A is superior to B, A will win most of the times.
    If B is superior to A, they will probably draw.
    -

    I’m still trying to figure the interactions with Defensive Tactic, Off Side Trap and Pressing.

    I stopped using Off Side Trap in my first weeks of OFM because I was getting a lot of goals. I’ve used it only one time or another since. I’m using it more now to figure what it can do.

    About Pressing I use it in 90% of the games.
    Zonal or Man-to-Man, that’s the question…I think Man-to-Man is better when you’re are stronger or when you have more players than your opponent in defense/midfield.
    Zonal in the other hand is suited for when your team is weaker and I think it’s the right tactic against Play Wide(opponent players are more spread on the field and will provide more crosses, so you better keep your positions to avoid empty spaces and holes in your defense).

    But this is only a vague theory, I’m trying some new tactics to focus on the advanced settings for now.

    P.S.: Don’t “worship” the guys in the top raking of OFM. I’ve been running their profiles and almost everyone in the top 10 is playing in 2nd and https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fnsr%3D1%26ui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&ltmpl=default&ltmplcache=2
    Gmail: Email from Google3rd divisions where the leagues have only 5 or 6 human players(some times less), so it’s not that hard to win if you know a few things about OFM tactics…For me the top managers ranking is a “false” classification.

  60. Thanks everyone for great advice. It REALLY works!!!

    BTW- I thought the computer would randomly purchase players priced less than 2x their value as long as they did not cost more than 10 mil. Yet my players worth 5.275 mil are listed for 9.999 mil but are not selling… what is the max price the computer will pay???

  61. playtherapy you should have read my post from November…

    “Transfers(to the computer)
    - The computer won’t buy players over 10M, and rarely over 9M.
    - Young players seem to be more easily sold than old players
    - When you’re having a hard time selling a player try lowering the price 200.000″
    -
    By the way if it still isn’t sold keep lowering the price.
    Usually it’s easier to sell a player after you bought someone.

    I’ve sold many players to the computer for 2.5x their value.

  62. Thanks Luis. One more question- do you have any idea how often the computer buys players (times per day; approximate times). I have a rough idea…Cheers!

  63. Currently the sales occur twice a day, the first one around 08:15 and the second around 16:15 OFM server time(GMT +1).

  64. Usually the computer won’t buy more than two players per round, so four players per day is usually the maximum you’ll get.
    But it happened to me more than once to have 3 players bought in one single round.

  65. hey, i play wid my frends nd even tho i go 3-4-3 all-out attack (defenders upcoming backs, midfielders supporting attacker and attacker attack) only i still draw even tho my team is marginally betta..

    any ideas??

  66. The home team has a significant advantage. So, even if the away team has better quality, the home team gets favoured a lot. Also, the stats of your entire team plays a role, as aposed to the stats of your starting eleven only.


    I managed to crack 451 SOS.
    * You must have good midfielders
    * Play Hard (normal) also sometimes works
    * Offensive – 1 up from neutral
    * Shoot on sight (obviously)
    * Attackers – attack only
    * Midfielders – Neutral
    * Defenders – Defend only
    * Defense – Zonal – if defenders more than 95%, man-marking
    * Offside trap OFF – unless playing against 451 counter or long ball
    * Pressing on


    Best way to counter 451 SOS play 352 SOS

    Hope this helps.

    Why not try what I did (as per previous post)?
    When a ‘good’ manager want to buy a player from you, instead of bargaining over the price, bargain with tactic sharing. Never knows, maybe you’ll strike it luck…maybe not. But, it’s worth a try.

  67. hm..

    jst realised my opponent prefers 3-5-2

    hw am i supposed 2 counter this effectively??

    i really need 2 win this match… i will go 3rd with birmingham :)

  68. craig david for what I understood you had problems with 3-4-3 play wide, right?
    If so, I can tell you a big mistake you’re doing, defense should stay back and not support attack…There are only 3 guys so don’t take that risk…
    The other thing that keeps you from winning is that you go all out attack.
    Every time I tried to change from 3/4 to 4/4(mentality) I would either draw or score less goals. When you use this mentality your defense levels get lower and your opponent manages to attack better and have more ball possession.
    -
    Karl I don’t agree with you on the Zonal/Man-to-Man theory.
    Like I stated on December 14 post I think this defensive tactic has more to do with your opponent strength and style of play.
    About the 3-5-3 vs 4-5-1 SOS, I still have some doubts about this. I have won with 3-5-2 but I’ve also lost, so for me it’s still isn’t clear that this is “the tactic” to beat 4-5-1. I’ll need some more tries to confirm it due to strength differences and home/away factor influence on results…
    -

  69. My God mate (Luis Dias)…Everyone else is just giving away their opinion about their own “experiment”…Everyone is different, no wonder u kept disagreeing with these people, coz u too are different from them…I can disagree with u, and i also can agree with u. So mate, give them a positive feedback instead of disagreeing with them…Your posts above sounds like u were the boss here…anyway, u have some good advices up there…keep it up!

    “Karl I don’t agree with you on the Zonal/Man-to-Man theory.
    Like I stated on December 14 post I think this defensive tactic has more to do with your opponent strength and style of play.
    About the 3-5-3 vs 4-5-1 SOS, I still have some doubts about this. I have won with 3-5-2 but I’ve also lost, so for me it’s still isn’t clear that this is “the tactic” to beat 4-5-1.”

    “Best way to counter 451 SOS play 352 SOS”

    Mate…he said “best way”, not “the tactic”…no wonder you kept disagreeing…At least he has the idea of how to use the 4-5-1 formation correctly…

    MERRY CHRISTMAS PEOPLE! ^^

  70. PS: It’s OK for them to “worship” the top ranked managers…It’s their choice…Is it not?

  71. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha itz not m8 u may be 1 of da best but u r not good enough for me………

  72. Supermartje, are you the same one that lies top of the OFM league?
    If so, congratulations!!! You’re like a ‘god’ or something :-)

  73. “At least he has the idea of how to use the 4-5-1 formation correctly…”
    Coming from you, I take this as a huge compliment. Thank you.
    Oh, and welcome to the Soccerlens community.

  74. Hahahah! Does it matter of who I am? Just that I’m at the top of the rank doesn’t mean that I’m “GOD”. I’ve been playing since 2004! Anyway, you’ll learn from experience…so don’t feel bad about losing (I lose many times too). Keep trying to find what’s the best tactic for you. Thousands of matches will earn you thousands of experiences.

  75. Supermartje you’re going wrong on your interpretation…
    I think it was the TOP 10 “worship” question that got into you, so let’s start there.
    -> “PS: It’s OK for them to “worship” the top ranked managers…It’s their choice…Is it not?”
    First of all you’re not going to teach me freedom lessons, let’s get that clear, that’s the only thing I won’t admit. Don’t try to push this discussion to freedom concepts…
    -
    People can “worship” whoever they want that’s not my point. My point was to clarify people’s reading of OFM Top 10 so they won’t get a wrong idea on how “almost everyone” got there(and yes, I’m including you).
    Like I said, “almost everyone in the top 10 is playing in 2nd and 3rd divisions where the leagues have only 5 or 6 human players(some times less), so it’s not that hard to win if you know a few things about OFM tactics…For me the top managers ranking is a “false” classification.”
    I’m not questioning you capacities, I’m just saying that “For me the top managers ranking is a “false” classification.”(notice that I used “for me”)
    So for me your words will never be a “huge compliment” for being in the top ten. For anyone else? It’s up to them.
    -

    Now about my words.
    Well I can recognize that sometimes my words can sound a bit different from my intentions. That’s one of the problems of Internet, you don’t have sound so the same sentence can be read in a lot of different ways.
    But I’m not here to “give positive” feedback. I’m here to discuss and learn.
    -
    In my discussion with NoobieBoobie(he asked for opinions) I started to say “I’ll have to disagree with you partially…”. Notice that I used partially.
    Other thing you should notice is that is that I always explain why I disagree.
    Discussions(or forums) are all about that! If you disagree you something, you should state it and explain why. Freedom’s all about that. Ain’t I right? ;)
    I like discussions, I really do!!! If someone disagrees with me, great, let them explain their opinions. That’s how we learn, that’s how our Civilization has grown and evolved!
    It’s not my fault that no one disagreed(explaining) with me.
    -
    No let’s go to Karl’s discussion…
    In my quote you can read “like I stated on December 14 post…” so go and read that post, I explain my “vague theory” there. (Notice that I called it theory and not law…)
    About the “Best way to counter 451 SOS play 352 SOS” I used “the tactic” in the same way he uses “the best” it’s just an expression some sort of metaphor or something(I don’t know the right word in English). Your need of attacking me just missed the target here…
    -
    ->”At least he has the idea of how to use the 4-5-1 formation correctly…”
    AH AH AH!
    Now this is the best sentence to show how focused you were on attacking me!!!
    We weren’t discussing THE USE of 4-5-1!!!AH AH AH!!!
    We were discussing HOW TO BEAT 4-5-1!!!
    Karl didn’t even said how he uses 4-5-1!!! AH AH AH!!!
    By the way, for someone that accuses me sounding like the boss, you sound too much like the god when you say “use the 4-5-1 formation correctly…”. What’s correctly? lol
    -
    So if after having been slightly polite in the beginning, you end your post like this, it only shows that real problem here was the TOP 10 “worship” question.
    And about that I won’t change a word, I think this ranking isn’t logical and I think it deceives people.
    Want a good example of a logical ranking? The Crew Wars.
    Want another one? The OFM World Championship.
    In the OFM World Championship you made it to final! For that I salute you but not for being in the TOP 10!

  76. I completely agree with luis dias MOST of the top ten managers on OFM honestly do play in 2nd and 3rd divisions thats why they gt so many points so easily and so fast. but also if they do compete in the OFM WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP win or get to the finals i call that pure skill because they be competeing against players around the world and beating them. but remember it doesnt mean the TOP TEN MANAGERS are the best even though they have a lot of experience. its just simple logic if you think about it and all it takes is common sense. but REMEMBER people this is my opininion and it doest mean you also have to follow it, do whatever you like express your opinions just dont be a follower be followed in your own way.

  77. Woaaah! Hold your horses there!
    Part 1
    “I think it was the TOP 10 “worship” question that got into you, so let’s start there.”
    No it wasn’t. It hasn’t got into me at all. I think it was u who got into it because u brought it up yourself. I was just telling NoobieBoobie that he’s free to worship anyone. Can u comment on him? Then comment on this, “Jake Steves: Yo yo yo, I’m pr0 at this game xDDDDDDDD. Guess what, i came 4th with fulham. Tactics: 451 counterattack xDDDDDDDDDDDD”, September 30. My comment if I was u, “don’t worship yourself Jake…”. No offense Jake, I’m just giving an example…For me, it’s an incredible achievement.

    Part 2
    “First of all you’re not going to teach me freedom lessons, let’s get that clear, that’s the only thing I won’t admit. Don’t try to push this discussion to freedom concepts…bla bla bla and so on”
    I’m not teaching u freedom lessons. I’m letting them know that it’s up to them whether they wanna worship the top ranked manager or not. Because you said “DON’T WORSHIP”. CLEAR??? They would know this by themselves if they were to read the Bible: DON’T WORSHIP other GODS other than Jesus. an example too. For me, it’s a comment about freedom, other comments are about dicussions and learning, just like what u said Dias. but u went beyond that.

    Part 3
    You want a logical ranking? I’ll give u a logical sentence and u can work the logic out using your logically logical logic. “Just that I’m at the top of the rank doesn’t mean that I’m “GOD”. I’ve been playing since 2004!”
    Want me to disect the logical sentence for u? Doesn’t mean that I’m God, meaning, I’m NOT GOD! I’ve been playing since 2004, meaning, skills that i’ve got now, are my experiences during the past 4 years. False classification? I don’t think so, false interpretation by those who think I’m a GOD? Yes! (Sorry x1000 Karl…, but I’m not GOD, u can refer me to as “something” instead, a lucky ordinary person perhaps?)

    Part 4
    “Your need of attacking me just missed the target here…
    -
    ->”At least he has the idea of how to use the 4-5-1 formation correctly…”
    AH AH AH!
    Now this is the best sentence to show how focused you were on attacking me!!!
    We weren’t discussing THE USE of 4-5-1!!!AH AH AH!!!
    We were discussing HOW TO BEAT 4-5-1!!!
    Karl didn’t even said how he uses 4-5-1!!! AH AH AH!!!
    By the way, for someone that accuses me sounding like the boss, you sound too much like the god when you say “use the 4-5-1 formation correctly…”. What’s correctly? lol”
    He said that he managed to CRACK 4-5-1 SOS rite? That means he must’ve been USING it to CRACK the best tactic out of it. I wasn’t talking about how Karl found the best way to COUNTER 4-5-1 SOS. If he did, that’s great! And I also said the IDEA of using it correctly. What’s correctly? THE IDEA OF HOW TO USE 4-5-1 FORMATION CORRECTLY. AH AH AH, lol too…Want the logic behind this? He actually used “Hooow, to use it by listing the details on the tactic that he USED. So, I didn’t even attack u, but it seems that it got u right on target. AH AH AH LOVL! again…Hey Karl, just to confirm…did u use 4-5-1 SOS? Or did u only work out how to counter 4-5-1 without actually using it? Oh, that’s so LOGICAL if u didn’t…

    Now about your words, read every sentences carefully before attacking somebody, and please attack me on target because u just missed me. Oh sorry, did u target yourself?
    Now about my words, My comment here isn’t about discussions and learning, but about corrections about false interpretation about me, my ranking, etc. SO to Ahmed Bilal, can u delete my posts after seeing these discussions…OOOH it’s sooo unnecessary to be talking about LOGIC in this discussion. I believe everyone has a LOGICALLY LOGICAL LOGIC already…Thanks Mate, I’m out. Continue with the old discussions…HOW to counter 3-5-2 Karl? Using 4-5-1 SOS? Thanks alot Karl! I agree with u partially…noticed that i’ve used “partially”, Dias?

    PS: It’s up to u whether u wanna worship the guys in the top ranking of OFM. I’ve been running their profiles and almost everyone in the top 10 is playing in 2nd and 3rd divisions where the leagues have only 5 or 6 human players(some times less, just before the season ended and they were frustrated because they’ve lost every single matches then they began to resign before the season ends), so it’s not that hard to win if you know a few things about OFM tactics…For me the top managers ranking is the “right” classification, but don’t get the “wrong” interpretation.

  78. still going strong eh?

    Get the discussion back on track guys :)

  79. I agree with Shoyeb. As wat Supermartje said, “False” interpretation…not “False” classification. We can all understand how “they” got to the top after playing quite a while, knowing he drills, n everythin. That’s why he called the “right” classification, because they are “classified” as the best for being in the TOP 10. LOGICALLY? It’s only a classification and Luis Dias didn’t need to explain that to all of us.

    Very obvious with the LOGICALLY LOGICAL LOGIC, that Supermartje was talkin about. He wanted Luis Dias to know that he needn’t say “DON’T WORSHIP” because everyone has the freedom to say watever, as long as it is related to the topic. But the “DON’T WORSHIP” thing is so totally not necessary. VERY CHILDISH. And, for me, a provoking sentence. Useless, watever u wanna call it…But Dias had the wrong interpretation…

    I’m not on anyone’s side, I’m just commenting on what I see right and wrong. My comment can also be deleted after this.
    So GUUUYS! Maybe all of these were misunderstood.

    Sooo, anyone else know how to counter 4-5-1 SOS? Beside Karl?

  80. Supermartje you keep mixing everything and losing all the sense…

    Part 1
    “I was just telling NoobieBoobie that…”-> No you weren’t, you’re talking to me remember? “PS: It’s OK for them to “worship” the top ranked managers…It’s their choice…Is it not?” (at least look at what you write…you’re so focused on attacking me that you keep on contradicting yourself…)
    “Jake Steves”?? Jesus man, that was on September 30. My first comment was on November 21 and I came here to discuss tactics and knowledge!!!
    “My comment if I was u”-> If you were me you wouldn’t comment that cause I didn’t ;)
    (By the way, did you contribute in anyway to readers of this article? Or are just worried with the Top Raking question like I state in my first reply? The more you write, the more you support my words…you’ll see that further in here…)

    Part 2
    “I’m letting them know that it’s up to them”- You are “letting them know”? Who are you? A God or an Emperor who’s letting the plebe know that they can think for their selfs and worship whoever they want? I never said they couldn’t do that, did I? I assume that everyone thinks on their own, I was just giving my advice…
    When you give an advice to someone do you always say “My advice is that…” or “My opinion is that…”? Or do you say “Don’t do that…”, “Don’t go that way…”, “Don’t buy that…”?
    “Don’t “worship”…” was an advice/opinion!!! Is it that hard to understand?
    (Hummm…wait, maybe you got sensitive because I demystified the Top Ranking and told everyone what strategy they use to get there…)
    -
    Part 3
    I’m talking about rankings and you’re talking about sentences? I never commented that sentence did I?
    Why do you keep mixing things? Lack of arguments to discuss the rankings?? Lack on sense?
    About the “false” that I’ve used with commas since the begin g…I’ll talk about it latter…
    -
    Part 4
    This keeps being my preferred part of your own drilled hole.
    “you sound too much like the god” — No I don’t, I sound like I’m making fun of you, cause I was!
    You completely lose you sense in this part…
    “I wasn’t talking about how Karl found the best way to COUNTER 4-5-1 SOS”- Did I said you where? No, so what’s the point here?! (lack of sense?)
    “I didn’t even attack u” -> Are you sure? Read this then(it’s a quote from you): “no wonder you kept disagreeing…At least he has the idea of how to use 4-5-1 formation correctly…” (ouch! After all you did attack me…)
    “but it seems that it got u right on target”-> Ah ah! You wished, I definitely wasn’t hit by your lack of sense.
    First of all you should notice that I’ve always given the details of the tactics I use, including 4-5-1 SOS. You should also have read that I won the cup and the championship using this tactic with Fulham.
    (Further I can tell you that last night I just managed to do exactly the same with the same tactic)
    -
    Dude Herlambang
    If you agree with Shoyeb, you agree with me. But apparently you don’t…Hummm…You don’t make sense do you?
    “It’s only a classification and Luis Dias didn’t need to explain that to all of us.”-> I didn’t explained the classification, I explained how they get there! duhh…
    Did you finally understood the “Don’t “worship” question by now or should I give up on you?
    “He wanted Luis Dias to know that he needn’t say “DON’T WORSHIP” because everyone has the freedom to say whatever, as long as it is related to the topic.”-> Where’s your logic? Where’s your sense?
    So I don’t need to give my advice because everyone’s free to say what they want? Does that meant that I’m also free to give my advice/opinion?
    You’re being ridiculous, I’d even say very childish and provoking, like when you used these words with caps.
    “But Dias had the wrong interpretation…”-> Ah ah! No I didn’t, you did! I said it has an advice and you interpreted it like an order! So how’s doing the wrong interpretation here? ;)
    -
    Now to finalize…
    For me the OFM TOP ranking isn’t the “right” classification, but it gives people the “wrong” interpretation.
    When I used “false” the first time it was with commas and you should have read it like that, like a metaphor or something…
    -
    Lets seem, Bobby Robson as more experience than Mourinho and so he has more points than him, but does that means that he’s better than Mourinho?!
    Like I said, look at the Crew Wars Rankings. It’s counted like this:
    one season ago: 90%
    two seasons ago: 70%
    three seasons ago: 50%
    This system is used worldwide, that’s what UEFA does!
    UEFA uses the results of the last 5 years(and not the whole history) to calculate the points(and rankings) of each country and determine how many teams and what competitions they’ll have access to!
    -
    Just think of those sites that have “Top Month”, “Top Year” and “Top Ever”.
    The Top Ranking in OFM is a Top Ranking Ever. And most people there play exclusivly for the points(2nd and 3rd divison, less humans, more teams, more points…). And yes, you can do it, you’re free, it’s your choice!
    But you won’t convince me that people in this ranking are better than anyone(in managing, don’t get me wrong again) for that!
    -
    People who started this year or last year will never make it to the Top or at least they’ll take a decade to do it.
    Look at the Top 10 profiles and see how may times they’ve played the main leagues.
    Now answer this: Where will you find more of human players, in the main leagues or in the secondary one’s?
    I think I made my point very clear, so I rest my case.
    -
    Now one final word to Supermartje.
    Remember when in my first reply to you I said: “I think it was the TOP 10 “worship” question that got into you…”? You replied “No it wasn’t. It hasn’t got into me at all.”…but in the end you just gave me reason: “My comment here isn’t about discussions and learning, but about corrections about false interpretation about me, my ranking, etc.” So after all the TOP 10 “worship” question got into you, didn’t it? That’s the only reason you’re here for!
    I’ve never referred to your person or your ranking before you came here, did I? So what’s left? Exactly, the TOP 10 “worship” question…(Bullseye! See I’m right on target since the beginning…)
    So why don’t you share your knowledge with us? Why don’t use this comments for their propose?
    -
    Ahmed sorry for this off track discussion but it looks like I touched a sensitive subject for some persons here…
    My intentions as everyone can see was to share knowledge and help “crack the code of OFM”.
    I know the information I’ve left in my comments is very useful, it will spare a lot of time to knew players and who knows, maybe it will take the real OFM competitions(the ones between human managers) to other levels of difficulty as everyone gets to know more about it.

  81. P.S.: Supermartje I’ve no problem in saying clearly that: You are on of the best managers in OFM.
    But once again I say this due to you presence in the OFM World Championship Final and never for your presence in the OFM Top Ranking. That only proves that you’re one of the best(and clever) managers but only among those who play the game since 2004.

  82. Aaaah!! Go to the court u guys!!! Answer my question instead! What is the best tactic to counter 4-5-1 SOS???!!?! I used 3-5-1 SOS, and the result was too narrow…(and I was playing Home)…Oh one more thing…
    Is 4-5-1 formation supposed to be a defensive or an offensive tactic??? I see it this way;
    Defensive: because it has quite a number of defense at the back
    Offensive: because it uses the midfielders to make the most out of scoring opportunities by shooting on sight…
    So should I set my mentality to neutral??

  83. ooops, I meant 3-5-2 SOS…not 3-5-1…sorrrrry…

  84. Hi, I am playing as Genoa at the moment and I am in 12th (my goal is 15)so it’s not bad due to the fact that this is my first season in ofm. I am playing away against Udinese which are currently in 2nd place and he always plays 4-2-4 passing game. I do not know how to counter this I would really like to win but it’s difficult or else a draw might also be great.Thanks for the help

  85. @Jean Pierre
    I would suggest to make sure you have 4 or more defenders to counter his attackers. Also, get numbers in midfield to overpower his 2 midfield players. Seeing that he plays ‘passing game’, with 2 midfielders, logically, you should be able to break it up.
    I would not suggest trying ‘Counter-Attack’ – play offensive. Personally, I would go with 451 SOS.
    (Just a suggestion though).

  86. @[Supermartje] and [Luís Dias], etc.

    Don’t you guys think this debate is a bit ridiculous?

    When I used the word ‘GOD’, it was metaphorically speaking, and, you know what I mean???

    Supermartje is on Top of the OFM league. Whether we like it or not. Whether it is right or not. Whether it is a true indication of how good he is or not. He is top and I feel he deserves the respect for that. I KNOW this does not mke him a god…ffs.


    I know there are many different scenarios to counter the different tactics. So too to counter 451 SOS. I suggested that the best way I found was the 352 SOS. Hell, now the other day I got beaten by a team playing 433 Wide (in my defense, I was playing Bolton and my opponent Chelsea :-) ). There’s no har and fast rules. It’s all cirumstantial; depending on the team strenght, squad strenght, opponent strenghts, match venue, etc, etc, etc.

    Oh, what I said on 451SOS was based on my own experiences.
    I spoke to a generous manager who shared a very effective 451 ‘Counter-Attack’ tactic with me. From here I worked out ‘my version’ of 451 SOS. It might not be ‘THE’ one, but it works almost perfect for me. Because I have some idea of how to use this tactic effective, I used logically logical logic in order to figure out which tactics can threaten this. There might be other ways to beat it, but I still need to encounter them, and learn from it. That is why I still persist playing OFM, in order to learn more.

    I learnt a lot from the OFM pages on this website (thanks Ahmed), and just figure it is just fair to share my recipe for success as well. It is not THE recipe, but hopefully it might help someone else. Also, please feel free to let me know how my version can be improved. I’m more than happy to learn.

  87. @Dude Herlambang
    “Is 4-5-1 formation supposed to be a defensive or an offensive tactic???”

    Depending on the interpretation of defensive/offensive, I find it to be VERY offensive (the way I suggested it). My possesion stats during Match Results confirms this. The remarkable thing I found however is the ‘goals for/against’ stats. Usually as much as 433/343 ‘for’, but less goals ‘against’.

  88. Just to be clear: the earlier posts made under the name Supermartje were not from me. Since i am the player who is playing OSM/OFM under the name Supermartje.

    Someone is using my name. I will not post here again, so if there are any more comments under the name Supermartje just know that they are not from the “real” one…

    Gr, Martijn

  89. @Karl

  90. @Karl
    I will try the 451 SOS today since I am again playing against a 4-2-4 (assuming he doesen’t change tacticts).
    I haven’t tried the 451 SOS last time against udinese because he changed to 451 SOS and I used the 541 SOS and got beaten 4-0 :(
    Thatnks for your suggestions Karl.

  91. OMG! This is the first time im reading this and I use the exaclty same tactics and formation as the author!! & for a sec i thought i was a tactical genius who just cracked OFM! :P

    well yeah da one ahmed billal said wrks for all teams dat iv managed so far…iv got wigan atm and i only got 1 loss and tht is to league toppers chelsea and it was only a 1-0 loss. Other then tht iv won each game besides a 1-1 draw away at aston villa. Its only 8 games into the season so we got a long time to go!

    I used the same tactic in national team manager and went to the finals of the world cup 2002 with south korea only losing to england in the final and atm im taking charge of poland for the new euro 08 nd my first match vs germany is todai. I have no licence so its kinda tough but im 5th in da ladder wif wigan who set thier goal at 13th! I bought leto, inusa, voroin (all frm liverpoo) derbyshire (blackburn) routledge (spurs) john (fulham) pique (man united) & al habsi (bolton). I sold heaps too and i got a good balance within the team. I planning to sell 2 strikers and get more cash and buy a centre mid and one mre defender and maybe sell one mre midfielder if they dnt get a game.

    My tactic is to have 2 complete different sets of teams. Like my first choice defenders is: Bramble Scharner Melchiot and my 2nd choice is Olembe Gravanquist (or how ever u spell it) and pique

    my 1st choice plays vs tough teams nd 2nd choice playin cup games or vs teams which arent doing so well. I also mix em up wen one gets a suspension or too tired but like dats wa i did with the mid nd forwards. I try to get 2 sets of teams all rated in the 80s and some exceptions in my 2nd choice team but only in the high 70′s like pique 78. My advisor says i shud sell cuz i got heaps of players but I dont think he gets my idea of 2 teams lol

  92. can anybody please, just gimme the right formation and tactics that will beat the lousy 4-5-1 formation cause it is really pissing me off when you got ManUtd and been beaten by Fulham.

  93. Jean Pierre which 4-2-4 was it? Was your team stronger or weaker? I can try to guess that you have lost…I’ve lost twice against Tottenham when he used 4-2-4 Passing game, I was Fulham so his team was quite stronger.
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    Cove are you in my League? I just beat MU yesterday…

  94. im wif wigan and im 4th place atm lol i just bought kewell too so im quite happi & i play MU todai and most prob gna get slaughterd but lets see wa happens

  95. Best tactic is 3-4-3 with hard, play wide, mentality middle, man to man, offside trap off, presing on, defenders stay back, midfielders support attackers and attackers support midfielders. Remember this tactic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  96. @Jean Pierre
    How did your match of comment #90 go?

    As mentioned before, playing against 451SOS that has home advantage is very difficult. I would suggest going on a training camp, (consider ‘extreme’ level if referee is ok) and trying 352SOS against them. Even though the team might be of lower quality, home advantage usually gives them a major advantage.

  97. @Faruk Ciber
    “Best tactic is 3-4-3…”
    I agree in part and tend to disagree somewhat…I think the best tactic is to be FLEXIBLE. I try to use 343,433 and 451/352 (depending on different circumstances).

    I started off with 343 and had some success, some failure. Changed to 433 and had even more success, still some failure. Changed to 451 ‘CA and SOS’ the same.
    When I decided to mix-and-match and become less predictable, I’m starting to have undefeated seasons. (played over 100 matches, just lost once – and only because I lost my internet connection).
    There’s still lots I don’t know about OFM, but I do reckon that being flexible is better.

  98. Can somebody tell me how to use 4-5-1 formation, what should be the mentality and should i play the defense, midfield and the attach… somebody help me plz

  99. i think 343 or 433 can beat 451 and 442 can beat 433 or 343 ..
    451 can beat 442 but depend on your team and tactic … first advantage is home and away second ability player …

  100. Does anyone know how to play against 5-4-1 counter attack? I hav an important game tonight, my midfield is strong and my instinct is too play 4-5-1 SoS. However, i havnt had much success with this tactic so far this season and wen i was up against 5-4-1 counter earlier this season i culd only manage a draw with 4-5-1 SoS…wen i played against it again i tried 3-5-2 sos whcih has been suggested alot on these forums but a draw again. Is this tactic and formation unbeatable?

  101. @Ben999
    Against 451 Counter Attack, you can basically try any of the above-mentioned ‘recommended’ formations.
    I had success with all of them.
    Just make sure however that this time your ‘Offside Trap’ is ‘On’. (I believe Offside trap works well against 1 attacker in ‘Long Ball’ and ‘Counter Attack’. Not so sure how well it works against SOS).

  102. danielz666, I don’t agree at all with you…Check comment #59…
    When teams are equal 4-5-1 SOS will beat 3-4-3 Play Wide.
    4-4-2 Play Wide and Passing Game (almost)always looses agaisnt 3-4-3 Play Wide, and probably 4-3-3 Play Wide.
    4-5-1 SOS might have problems with 4-4-2 Passing Game, but all the other “Overall Match Tactics” will get beaten…
    -
    I totally agree with the comment #97 from Karl! You must have a set of tactics and not only one tactic, like you can see in my earlier comments I use 4-5-1 SOS(but now also Play Wide), 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 Play Wide. The advance tactics always change according to the opponents tactic.
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    Ben, I’ve defeated 4-5-1 CA(not 5-4-1) by using 4-5-1 Passing game, with Def-Stay Back, Mid-Sup. Att and Att- Att. Only, Zonal, Offside Trap On and Pressing On.
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    By the I just lost the Crew Wars CIP C(league 16694) to Bolton Wanderers(I’m Liverpool) and he’s always played 5-4-1 SOS…
    I’ve the best players average off all CIPs 7.21 (BW has got only 6.82), I have a better goal difference than BW (101-26 against 76-12) but the truth is that we will get more 2 or 5(one game left) points than me …
    Football is an unfair game isn’t it? ;)
    By the way Bolton Wanderers with is 5-4-1 SOS won almost all the games against 4-5-1 SOS. And from the top 8 teams, everyone(except BW) uses 4-5-1 SOS frequently(almost always).
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  103. Luis Dias, you mention 451 play wide… how well does it work?

    Another interesting thing that you mention is how well 541SOS seems to work. Strange. According to ‘my’ logic of the game it does not make sense (the 5 vs 4 midfielders should’ve been more effective than the 4 vs 5 defenders). Ah well. Back to the drawing board for me :-(
    Do they ‘always’ play 541SOS, or only against 451SOS?

    I think I might try 541SOS tonight. Have a final cup game against Tottenham away. I have a much stronger squad than him. The previous away game against him, I used 451SOS (and even went on training camp). He also changed to 451SOS and we ended up drawing 0-0. I have a feeling he is going to try the same thing this time around. (The home game I used 343PW against his 442SOS and won 5-0).

  104. Does anybody know if ‘Team Names’ have an effect on results?
    I know this sounds like a silly question, but I have my suspicions.
    If Manchester United play against Sunderland and they both have equal strenght teams. Will Manchester United have an edge over Sunderland?

    Or what about table positions?

  105. works this tactic? 442 counterratack with this settings? defenders :stay back ,midfielders support atackers ,atackers :atack anly mentality half, no ofside trap ,presing yes ,zonal marking formation a

  106. Karl, as you might have noticed I’m in my third season with Fulham and because of my weak squad I’m unable to use 3 Attackers until half of the season(it’s the last sector I reinforce), so against some tactics were SOS doesn’t work so well(when you’re weaker) I change to Play Wide with good results.
    -
    About the 5-4-1 SOS I also found it strange, because I use the same logic as you but the truth is this guy got more 2 points than me at the end of the season.
    This guy played 5-4-1 SOS the whole season(he never changed) and he didn’t won all games against 4-5-1 SOS but won 80% of them and never lost at home to 4-5-1 SOS.
    I think it is purely an advanced tactics battle.
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    Other thing I’ve noticed is that when I put the Mentality to 4/4 Offensive I’ll shoot more but will score less goals than if I leave it 3/4. With 4/4 I usually win by only 1 goal… :|
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    About the names I also have some suspicions but somehow different.
    When a strong team is playing a weaker team, sometimes it looks like if they aren’t as motivated as the weaker team, and so they get draws or defeats…but there are so many variables that this one turns to be the hardest to figure out.
    Anyway I think it may be based on the team’s goal because even if I’m first(with Fulham) and Manchester is last, the Analyst will always say that Manchester is the favorite(even if my squad is better).

  107. What is the tactic of Supermartje???PLEASE tell me I just started playing on december 2007. And I want to use Bristol city can Supermartje please tell the tactic or write a message to my account. Manager name:faruk ciber

  108. Faruk Ciber, loooooool!!!
    What do you want? The magic formula?! It’s already in this discussion…4-5-1 SOS and 3-4-3 Play Wide :D
    Now a bit more serious, this isn’t the way things are done.
    If you want to learn, read the comments in here, they have all the information you need to start winning, and post your questions.
    You’re using Bristol City? Well I use Fulham who’s goals is also 16, so you can use the tactics I’ve described. Just check my profile and check the standings in my current league ;)
    Since you’re new in OFM you should also read comment 54, it has a lot of useful information.
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  109. Thank Luis.

    Damn, I was so close to having my first fully undefeated season. Lost the cup game because this guy [comment# 103] outsmarted me. He had traning camp AND secret training left and used it…imagine keeping secret training until 2nd last game of the season?!?. Anyway, I was hoping he not use 451SOS against mine, and he did! He won. (If only I knew I could have tried a different tactic because I had a VERY strong squad – Team Attack-104, Defend-100, Ave-102 ((i think)). Damn!). Well, you can’t win them all. Congrats to manager ‘justsofly’. If you reading this post, as mentioned in my message to you, Well Done!

    Sorry if I bore your, but, I think my season performance deserves bragging rights!!!
    I had a real dream team.
    TEAM -Man United
    ATT – Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldinho, Messi
    MID – Ronaldo, Kaka, Nani, Anderson, Hargreaves, Scholes, Giggs
    DEF – Rio, Vidic, Evra, Alves, Ramos
    GOAL – Foster, Kuczak, VDS

    (Made a late bid for Cesc, but the manager told me to piss off :-) )

  110. “imagine keeping secret training until 2nd last game of the season?!?” – That’s what I always do :P I never spend a training camp in the first half of the season(unless extremely necessary).
    And when I’m in the cup, I normally leave a training camp to the final.
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    Are you guys interested in playing a “Soccer Lens” league to learn more about OFM tactics?
    The idea would be for everyone to tell in detail what tactic they used after each match so that everyone could learn more about the advanced tactics.
    I think a Fantasy League would be perfect cause all the teams have the same goal and money to form a squad, so they would all be balanced. The only problem is that we would need 16 managers to fill the league…
    What do you think?
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  111. 343 play wide is effective with manu

  112. Can someone tell me the best tactic for bristol city!!???
    I we just stated a new season today.The league is in the preparation phase 4.

  113. Can anyone tell me how to beat 3-5-2 passing game. I’m really stucked . I am trying the same just shoot on sight. Squad almost equal.
    I love 4-3-3 formation play wide. I had great results with that but against stronger teams doesn’t work. If you play 3-5-2 shoot on sight you will not lose many matches but you will draw many. Valencia lost just one game with that formation against me. I was Sevilla. About 4-5-1 I would try the same if you have equal teams and training camp. Just dont use 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 against 4-5-1 cause you will lose for sure.

  114. Someone had been using my email address…it says “supermartje” in my mail inbox…
    Since there are no detail info about a player’s height and prefered post, I think I finally figured how to play them effectively…(I think).
    Let’s go for an example.
    Formation: 4-3-3, specifically play wide.
    1. Attacker: Attackers with high def rate is more effective playing on the side of the field rather than being a centre forward. Vice versa, if a player has a rather low def rate, it means he’s a post player or some sort (he’s tall bla bla bla and has balls to win the header! huahuahuauhhuaa! joking…)

    2. Midfielder: for midfield, I used my common sense here and has got good results in “almost” every matches. Playing a higher attacking rate player on the side of the field is effective, leaving a well rounded player in the centre of midfield, know what I mean??

    3. The same thing apply to defenders. Low attacking rate defenders are to be put in the centre, and higher ones on the side of the field.

    I can say this based on the match’s stats, starting from the possesion%, shots on goal, accuracy rate. By the way, if I am too misleading, please let me know..these are just my prediction about things…I may be wrong though.

    Have u guys tried 3-5-2 play wide defensive?? I found it interesting. It works against the top teams playing 4-4-2 passing game, but really shit against the weaker teams…

  115. Bumblebeeotch, I use the same logic as you but I still have some doubts about it’s effectiveness.
    I’ve been lining up players like Sissoko, Marcherano, Xavi (def. mid.) in the wings with really good results. Last season with Liverpool Sissoko and Xavi had 7.40 average grades, playing mostly in the wings.
    In the other hand, with Fulham I’ve been playing with Mikel as a defensive midfielder also with very good results.
    So even though I use the same logic as you I still have doubts about their influence in players grades and match results.

  116. Hey guys last night I tried to play 3-5-2 against 4-5-1 Fiorentina, I was Juve. And got beaten 1-0. So I think that 3-5-2 against 4-5-1 will get you a draw. So guys if you wanna win against 4-5-1 forget 3-5-2 and try something else.

  117. kushtrim, it’s not like that. If you loose once it doesn’t mean you’ll loose all.
    And it’s not only about the formation, advance tactics play a huge roll.
    What setup did you use?

  118. Kushtrim, consider the style of play u’ve used against what defensive tactic they’ve used (which is impossible to know unless u hack into their account =P ). I’ve used 3-5-2 SOS against 4-5-1 SOS and has got some Won some Lost. The results were pretty narrow anyway, mostly by 1 goal. Consider also the Home-Away factor…and yes, player grades are so unpredictable. Even if u have better players, more possession, more shots on goal, (or even better tactic), u still have the probability to lose. By the way Luis, do u think they’re using a Probability system for the players rating?? I’m trying to work out how the engine calculation works…if they have, then no point for me working them out…

  119. ah, forgot one thing. How do u find playing against 3-4-3 passing game compared to 3-4-3 play wide???

  120. Well guys I just beat 4-5-1 Reggina. I used 4-3-3(A), hard style of play,play wide,full offensive, defensive tactic: man to man,no offside trap, pressing on, def:stay back,mid: support attackers, att:attack only. Well it was a narrow result and I played home(1-0). But I had quite better team. And you can try 4-3-3(A). I have seen some matches 4-3-3 wins over 4-5-1 with narrow result. The first match with Reggina same formations and Reggina beat me.

  121. When playing against weaker team that uses 4-5-1 SOS you can try to use 3-4-3 PW with the following tactics:
    Style-> Hard
    Mentality-> 3/4 to Offensive
    Defensive tactic-> Zonal
    offside trap-> off
    Pressing-> On
    Defense-> Upcoming backs
    Midfield-> Neutral
    Attack-> Attack Only
    With this setting I had a 3-0 win at home(and I played only with 10 players) and a 7-1 victory away(this time with 11 players). This advanced tactics setting is different from the one I was using before and it’s specifically set to face 4-5-1 SOS.

  122. I used 4-5-1(A) against 4-3-3. Valencia(me)2-2 Real Madrid.

  123. Guys (to those more interested in disproving the suggestions than to add value),
    1. There is no one formation that ALWAYS guarentees a win.
    2. It is possible for David to beat Golliath – otherwise it wont be fun playing the game as a lower team.
    3. As mentioned before, the suggestions mentioned on this page, tactics that works ‘best’ with certain formations, which is ‘more likely’ to produce positive rsults. The best is to use a combination of these in your game.
    Predictability can cost you dearly.
    4. Home/away, fatigue, extra training, player skills, player positioning all play their part, AS WELL AS YOUR OPPONENT’s TACTICS.

  124. luis diaz y agree your opinion but ofside trap si work with your settings and mentality full atac

  125. Hi folks. I’ve had phenom results with your tactics though I sometimes have trouble with 4-4-2 CA or SOS. Though I’ve heard of success using 3-4-3PW agains these, I haven’t tried as I like to take challenged teams to the top and can’t always afford to experiement with weak teams. With your tactics I won Serie A with Napoli and am trying to do this again with same as well as with Fulham in EPL. I sometimes have trouble with the random combinations of the CPU as these are so weird I don’t always know how to counter them and sometimes draw easy games. Thanks!

  126. hey guys, im derby at the moment currently in 6th place almost half way through the season and i have an upcoming match against a very decent chelsea side who has only dropped 2 points all season. He’s playing 4-3-3 play wide. What would work best against this? Ideally a draw or a 1-0 win would be very nice lol. Oh and i am away and my squad is very average at best

  127. Ben999. Try 4-5-1(a) shoot on sight with a training camp. This works best against 4-3-3.

  128. Hey guys! About 4-5-1 I tried 5-4-1(A) shoot on sight and it worked for me. I will be traying to get if this works best against 4-5-1. Give it a try and let me know if you won or lost. Thanks.

  129. Kushtrim, what mentality is best for this formation? and do i set my midfield players neutral or attacking?

  130. Mentality: fully offensive, midfielders: support def.

  131. Sorry about double post. Ben999 let me know if you won or not? I really need to know cause I am facing a 4-3-3 formation tonight. Thanks.

  132. well it was a close 1-0 defeat but i didnt use a training camp. Thought it might be a waste because i was playing away and didnt stand much of a chance. Slightly regret it because i could have gotten a draw possibly. The stats showed chelsea prtty much dominated so maybe i’ll try sumthing else next time

  133. well to be honest 433 is best with playwide
    but the best formation is 4-5-1 and shoot on sight
    midfield neutral
    attacker attack only
    i was sunderland i won the cup against undefeated man utd and came 5th in league

  134. hi. i am a mouderater in my league and i am chelsea (the best). but sadly i am 8th in my leage and it is a shock because i got a very good team but the problem is that i just can’t get the best formation and the best tactics. so can u please tell the best formation and the best tactics 2 play a strong team.

  135. Since you are all interested in how OFM works, why not try the idea of comment #110 of Luis dias of creating a “learning league” ?

    sounds good to me…

  136. thanks but can u tell me how this can help me in my formation and tactics.

  137. ashkan, have you even read the comments on this page?!?!?! What you’re asking has already been answered…
    I and other players had some work and lost time to make information about tactics and gameplay available to new players, so the least I expect from them is to also loose some time and have some work in reading our previous comments (that’s how I started).

  138. Against a 4-4-2 SOS, I played two different away games using 3-4-3 PW using suggested tactics (have been using suggested tactics for several seasons now. Both teams had comparable skill levels and stadiums were Lvl 0. I alternately won and lost with a 2-0 score line for both.

    I have also played 4-5-1 SOS against a 4-4-2 SOS- often ending in a draw or a 1-0 win for either side, though usually the home team. I have also struggled, especially in away games against a 4-4-2 CA using 4-5-1 SOS, sometimes losing to an inferior team 1-0. Most of the above games are pure yawners, with shots on goal totals for both teams barely more than 10.

    Many newer players marry the 4-4-2 passing, making them pure cannon fodder for the 4-5-1. In one of my leagues, Man U, Chelsea, and Arsenal have married this strategy, allowing Tottenham, Fulham (me) to share the title lead, with Liverpool 3 pts behind in the 24th week. I alternate between 4-5-1 SOS and 3-4-3 PW depending on the situation. Liverpool religiously uses 4-4-2 SOS. I have a big away game against Tottenham, I expect both of us to use camps. He has superior strength (skills and Lvl 3 stadium)and is becoming more tactically adept (reading this, perhaps?).

    My game name is Kelan Johnson (my 3 yr old son’s name).

  139. listen can u tell me a really good young left midfielder 2 buy 4 my team

  140. playtherapy, I never had much trouble with 4-4-2 SOS. It’s also funny that with Fulham I’ve always had trouble against 4-4-2 PG, so much that I never use 4-5-1 SOS against stronger teams using that tactic. I usually change to 4-5-1 PW.
    But getting back to 4-4-2 SOS the only thing I change(what I remember, cause I use intuition everyday) is:
    Style-> Hard
    Mentality-> 3/4 to Offensive
    Defensive tactic-> Man-to-Man
    offside trap-> On
    Pressing-> Off
    Defense-> Upcoming backs
    Midfield-> Neutral
    Attack-> Attack Only
    As far as I remember this is how I’ve dealt with 4-4-2 SOS but like I’ve said before, your opponent advanced tactics play huge roll.

    Like Rymo remembered, that’s why I suggested the creation of a “learning league”, cause it’s the only way to figure how advanced tactics interact with each other. But no one except him showed interest so…

  141. Luís Dias , can i please have your msn ? i’m also portuguese and i really study your tatics , but i would be happy to change some notes with u if possible.

    In #121

    Are u speaking about 3-4-3 A or u mean tatic B ?

  142. Thanks for the feedback, Luis. Okay, I hear you loud and clear. I’m in if we’re starting a learners liga. A few suggestions:

    1. We play it open handed- like cards- tactics announced pregame. We stick to what we agree upon. I’m unsure how we’ll manage transfers or training (do we need these?).

    2. We keep track (writing down) EVERYTHING WE DO. Trends, anomolies, et al. This would also be an opportunity to try some crazy stuff, just to see if it’ll fly. Remember the Wright brothers were secondary school dropouts and bicycle mechanics- they did what the best scientists could not- they FLEW- partially due to their ability to try things more “educated minds” scoffed at. I bet there’s some surprises we are unaware that we’d never stumblwe upon otherwise.

  143. what settings for 541 counterattack please help me

  144. So far, Tottenham is using a 3-2-5 SOS. Never have seen ANY team use this formation. Has ANYONE else?

    Sorry, Cristan, I’m not sure. Are you playing at home or away and does the team you’re playing have better skills? I have a guess but don’t want to mislead you, so I’ll wait to see more experienced responses.

  145. I think that a fantasy league would be ideal. The teams would be of similar strenght, the goal’s the same for all so there would be no big team vs small team factor(if it exists), and we could agree not to buy and sell players and stick with the squad we set up at the beginning.
    The only problem for a fantasy league is that we would need 16 players to start one and I don’t know if we have enough managers to do so.
    Anyone else wants to join this league?

    P.S.: Friks, send me a message on ofm with your msn and I’ll add you to my contacts. About the tactic I always use 3-4-3(B).

  146. y play home and this setiings are good? defeders stay back,midfielders suport atackers ,atackers atac only ,and what is better presing yes or no, ofside yes or no ,

  147. Luis, Consider this situation. U r playing away using 451SOS, The home team uses 442PG. Having to know that 451SOS would win most of the time against 442PG, but 442PG has a considerable advantage playing at home, would they probably get a draw?? Using your intuition really…coz my intuition isn’t as good as yours =P hehehe… Or would I rather be using 433PW just to play safe…?

    Second one, I have hard times against such strong teams (chelsea, barca, madrid, MU) that r using 343PW if they were playing home…I tried 433PW, sometimes a draw, sometimes 1-0 win (maybe lucky). Do u think 343PW is the strongest formation we can use effectively against any formation, even 451SOS??

    PS:(Playtherapy) I’ve seen 1 person in my league using 325SOS. I played him using 433PW, he had more shots but 0% accuracy. I played away (Atletico Madrid), n he was Valencia, n I won by 2-0. He’s resigned now…(frustrated??) hahaha

  148. Thanx, Bumblebeeotch, but the formation was just a ruse. He then used secret training, then a camp. I countered with my camp but he still beat me 2-1, scoring in the 85th minute. We both had 4-5-1 formations, he played at home with a level 3 Stadium.

    Interesting, your remark about using a 4-3-3 PW against a 4-5-1. I lost (being Napoli) 2-nil away to Juventus. He used that formation against my 4-5-1 SOS. I did not know that was a good foil to my formation- I know now!

    Bad night- losing both games. Napoli just can’t get off the ground yet with 4 wins, 4 draws, and 1 loss. I’m trying to buy as many computer transfers @ low prices as possible, then reselling to create funds- but so far, I can’t bridge the gap between me and better teams.

  149. I followed your advice, Luis, against Arsenals’ 4-4-2 SOS and got beaten 1-0. worst, I was outshot 13-6 and this was a manager I could have beaten. I was at home with every improvement to my stadium. Ugly game (for me). I can definitely say that strategy was counterproductive for me. I’m unsure what happened.

  150. Wow! Serious?? What a day (playtherapy)

  151. playtherapy, I’m sorry to hear that. I presume Arsenal had a stronger team and I think the rest might be related to advanced tactics.
    Like the guy from Bolton(comment 106) who played in 5-4-1. He was the only guy I’ve ever seen managing to beat 4-5-1 SOS with 5-4-1 SOS. All the other times I’ve seen a 4-5-1 vs 5-4-1, it ended with the victory of 4-5-1. Curiously this guy lost twice to 4-3-3 PW.
    The same happened in another league here a guy using 4-2-4 PG managed to beat everyone that used 4-5-1 SOS. I’ve tried 4-2-4 PG more than once against 4-5-1 SOS and had no success.
    The same applies to the 4-3-3 PW, I’ve seen a manager who had success against most 4-5-1 SOS but usually people that play 4-3-3 PW tend to loose with 4-5-1 SOS.
    I think we have figured out the best formations and tactics but we still have a lot to learn in terms of what Advanced Tactics do…We never know what A.T. our opponent uses, so it’s hard to relate our own A.T. to the outcome of a game…Unless we play some “learning games” we will be stuck with the role of Advanced Tactics, somethings may work in one game and not in other when apparently the settings where the same…

    P.S.: playtherapy, I also use that buy-to-sell trick to create funds ;)

  152. No prob, Luis. It was just a dog of a game. Yes, I really enjoy the buy/sell aspect when managing a small team.

  153. when I am up against an opponent who plays SOS (4-5-1 or 3-5-2), I adapt my advanced tactics to try and neutralize their midfield.
    So, defence on support midfield, midfield neutral, attack support midfield..
    pressing on, offside trap off, (zonal or man-to-man I can’t remember)
    mentality on 3.

    I did not encounter this many times (

  154. Tonight I’m facing a weird random computer generated formation- a 4-3-3 SOS from an inferior team (Birmingham). I’ve never played against SOS in that formation.

  155. hmm, half of my message is gone

    …(less than eight) but it was always positive for me (mostly very thight)

    I agree with Luis Dias that the advanced tactics could play a big role. I’ve played 433(A)PW mostly (with constant advanced tactics), but the results differ greatly playing against the same formation and overall match tactic…

    Any more managers who wish to join the learning league??

  156. Yikes! Another away game against a superior 4-4-2 SOS team. Luis, after being scalped when using the 4-5-1 PW, I’m not going that way again. Any other suggestions?

  157. After giving up 1st, I am losing too many games- a squeaker away to 1st place Tottenham, then a devastation by Arsenal @ home, then a 2-1 loss @ home to Bolton. All against 4-4-2 SOS. Then it occurs to me, WTF am I so stupid? Why have I not countered a 4-4-2 when playing @ home with a 4-4-2??? Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! From 1st to 9 pts adrift!!! Me estupido!!! DOH!!!

  158. Hello guys !!

    I’m gona have an important match ( AWAY ) agains a weaker team , im very strong in all the sectors and i have been playing with the 3-4-3 PW (B) for 3 games , and i have won the 3 in a row :).

    I Have attackers in 95 , 99 , 95

    Wingers , 95 and 92
    Ofensive Midlefielder 100
    Defensive Middle 95

    left and right defenders 30/95 29/92
    and the central at 92.

    I’m Bayern Leverkussen.

    I’m gona play against a weaker team away and he always uses 4-5-1 SOS

    Should i stay with 343(b) PW ??

    Pls awnser master dias :)

  159. playtherapy, I don’t use 4-5-1 PW to counter 4-4-2 SOS, I use it to counter 4-4-2 PG.
    Have you tried 4-5-1 CA? I don’t have a clue about the Advanced Tactics for this formation, but I’ve seen some managers having success with it, so it might work…
    Leverkussen, against 4-5-1 SOS I had success using 3-4-3 (B) PW, with the settings of comment #121.

    Yesterday I stared playing with Portsmouth(16 games played already) in league where a lot of people are using 4-5-1 SOS. I’ll try some crazy tactics and see if I have success. If anyone has an idea(beside SOS tactics like 3-5-2) please let me know.

  160. 4-4-2 SOS can be an effective foil against 4-5-1SOS, especially if the player has a superior team and is playing @ home. I have no idea of the advanced tactical settings, I just know I have struggled agaisnt this formation using 4-5-1 SOS.

  161. LOL !!

    Energie Cottbus – Bayer 04 Leverkusen 2 0 view

    This is ridiculous …

    Better Team played with 343(b)PW like #121

    And lost against a so weak team ..

    Really … this game is a little “bugger”

  162. He used 451SOS against my 343(b)PW …

    and no .. he didnt used extra train … lol ..

    Really sometimes this game really sucks !

  163. Leverkussen, I’ve only tried that tactic twice(at home and away) and I had comfortable victories. Do you have your players fatigue high or something(I never have)? If not then it can only have to do with the advance settings of you opponents.

  164. Playing against 4-3-3 Play Wide in my first game of myCrew League season.

    He has a considerably stronger squad than mine and I want to get off to a good start.

    Any tips on what to play tonight, baring in mind my squad is a lot weaker than his, me being a goal 13 team, him being a goal 7 team.

    Cheers.

  165. Luis Dias.

    I Have been defeated with the tatic that i gave him

    451SOS

    Style-> Hard
    Mentality-> 3/4 to Offensive
    Defensive tactic-> Zonal
    offside trap-> off
    Pressing-> On
    Defense-> Stay back
    Midfield-> Neutral
    Attack-> Attack Only

    My 343(b) was your’s at #121

    The max fatigue i had was 3% ….

    So indeed 451SOS with a weaker team u can get really defeated.

    2-0 For him 12 shots for him 11 for me …

  166. Hi
    Does anyone know who the best midfielders to scout are?
    Thanks

  167. Leverkussen this is interesting…Like I said I’ve only tried that 3-4-3 PW setting twice and they worked out well. I’ll try it again when I have a chance.
    But in fact my experience tells me that 4-5-1 SOS tends to beat 3-4-3 PW.
    On the other hand it’s funny to know that “my” 3-4-3 PW(set to beat 4-5-1 SOS) can’t in fact beat “my” standard 4-5-1 SOS(the one you gave him is just like mine at #54).

  168. Anyone ever played against a 4-3-3 SOS? Gotta win the rest of my games (4 pts off the top- made up for 9pt gap) to take the title and some of my opponents have the weirdest formations.

    ALSO- this is THE LEAGUE of 4-4-2 SOS. My final game is against Liverpool away with superior team AND Lvl 3 Stadium. He probably be using a 4-4-2 SOS. I also will be facing tough teams away using 4-4-2 SOS in the next few days. I have found if I use a 4-4-2 SOS agaisnt a 4-4-2 SOS at home, I’m likely to win but away, I lose. Luis, does the 4-5-1 or 5-4-1 CA used against 4-4-2 have same tactics as 4-5-1 SOS?
    Thanks

  169. Hey guys!I lost using 4-5-1(A) against Real Madrid 3-4-3(A).There wasn’t a big difference between quality of players. He had some of them a little better. But he was playing home. So I don’t know what to say. Usualy 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 loses against 4-5-1. I am with Valencia and I am using 4-5-1 in every match to see wich formation works best against 4-5-1. I am trying that cause I am 3rd 20 points less than Barca(no match lost) and 5 points less than Real Madrid. So you guys could try 4-2-4. Maybe it will work never knows.

  170. Hello guys!
    Well,it’s my second season now,and i’m playing with ManUtd.The thing is I played about 90% of my games in 442PG ,and the last season i’ve only had 2 defeats(and 5 goals conceaded),so it worked great.
    But now,with MU,i’m halfway through the season,and 3 pts behind Newcastle.The thing is i’m gonna play against a 451 SOS Aston Villa,and the guy won 13 of his 14.He’s also playing at home(damn!)…So do u think I should change the formation do 343 or 433? I’ve got a great squad,all of my atackers(4) are above 100,so are the midfielders(kaka nani anderson giggs or ronaldo-suspended-).I’ve read all of your comments,great stuff,but have you got any suggestion for me?
    I’m playing tonight,so hurry :))

  171. Or shoould I also use 451…hmm….never did that…But it would be a pitty to put Tevez and Reyes on the bench,right?

  172. I woooooon!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D!!! 1-0 away ,343 against 451.damn,it feels good……

  173. playtherapy, against 4-4-2 SOS I’ve been using 3-4-3 PW with good results. I don’t use CA frequently, so I don’t really know the setup it should have.

    Ted, what setup did you use?

  174. well… hard,mentality offensive+4,man to man,no offside trap,pressing, and stay back-neutral-atack only.An i used what one of the guys said,I put my strongest atacker in the middle,the strongest defender in the middle…and so on.

    But the man of the match was my goalie…even if he only had 4 shots on target.(my goalie is 110).Possession 57%,and what’s interesting is that 40% of the match was in his half,never seen that before…..I think I will stick to this strategy,and alternate it with 442 sometimes…
    Here’s one for you…What do u think I should do against 343 Arsenal…? he plays hard and wide.And I play away…
    Cheers!

  175. Hey!
    Is it true that training camps work better at home than away?

    ’cause i’m not sure whether to use one against chelsea,or not,provided that I play away.I’m on a winning streak,however,the players have a good morale.

    He plays 352 Hard PG ,and i’ll go for the 343 above…
    Any suggestions?:)

  176. it’s me again :D .Just wanted your opinion…in 343 Wide(me) against 352passing , in a away game,man to man ,or Zonal defense…?He has 100 and 101 attackers,but I have 3 great strikers (104,102,101),and way better midfielders…In defence he’s got 100,100,99,and I’ve got 3*98.My goalie is 111,his 104…

    Maybe somebody will read this:)

  177. im having problems when encountering 4-5-1 SOS. Im Deby and im 7th battling for 4th spot with 2 games to go…im up against liverpool and manunited. Anyway, Liverpool have a far superior team to me and they always play 4-5-1 SOS so i dont expect them to change. I lost 2-0 to them earlier on in the season playing 3-4-3 ( not the greatest of ideas. Does anyone have an effective strategy to beat teams with 451 sos in my situation. Thanks

  178. You should read this whole page,Ben,it’s full of useful pieces of advice. U are a weaker team,I wouldn’t go for 343 either…I play with ManUtd now,and this season,I beat 451 twice,with 343 only.But Tottenham beat 451 Aston Villa vth 352…i don’t know the set-up though…If you play away,u could set the attack to support midd, to counter their superiority in that area of the field…And besides,it’s similar to 343,so maybe it could work.You have to figure out zonal/man to man,based on your squad and his,and home/away game…good luck!

  179. im chelsea and i’ve got a very strong squad and im in the cup final with liverpool he is playing 4-4-2 passing game and hard.
    what is the best formation and best tactic to play against him and can u tell me today quickly. thank you.

  180. Hi Luis Dias,

    What is best A.T for 4-5-1(A or B)SOS, 4-3-3(A or B)PW and 3-4-3(A or B)PW……?

    From my experience, 5-3-2 CA can beat 3-5-2 SOS……!

    Thanks for the help

  181. Well what can beat 343 because i dnt want to lose to people tht are using 451 and 443 and 352 while i g away i would lik to kick there ass

  182. Luis, in comment 140 when you were giving me advice on tactics versus 4-4-2 SOS what formation were you suggesting using when you wrote advanced tactics???

    4-5-1 SOS???

    Thanks!

  183. Yeah i have manchester united and are using exactly the same tactics as u and havnt conceeded a goal the whole season and have only drawed once with chelsea. i have scouted for ronaldinho and ibrahimovic and so my forwards ar ronaldinho 107 att ibrahimovic 105 att rooney 109 att i am season ticket holder and have fully upgraded my stadium and im on the 31st week life’s good

  184. Has anyone got some codes that you get on the back of a season ticket voucher i would be very greatful if someone wrote a list of codes!!!!!!!!

  185. And what tactics would someone suggest for a real betis team sitting in 12th with fairly good squad!!!!!!

  186. Hi guys. I have a tactical formation to tell you. I have been playing for a long time with Sunderland with the:
    4-5-1 formation,
    overall tactics is Shoot on sight,
    hard style of play,
    offside trap OFF,
    zonal defence,
    Defenders are upcoming backs,
    Middfielders are Neutral and
    Atackers are Atack only.
    And I have to tell you that this is very succesfull style of play. I am in the 9 place and aiming higher. From the begining of the season I’ve sold all the old players and bought only young ones.

  187. Hii! I just want to tell you the formation i’ve been using with Bristol City. Im 4 place and finished my season:
    extreme style of play
    SOS overall tactics
    1/5 menatlity extremely defensive
    zonal
    offside trap of
    presing on
    defenders stay back
    midfielders support defense
    and attackers support midfield

    Hope you like it.

  188. hi guys

    im amazing at ofm im ranked 690 in ofm

    best tactics i know are

    4-5-1 sos for crappy teams

    3-4-3/4-3-3 play wide with good teams

    and mid table teams try 5-3-2 passing game very hard to defeat

    anyone know how to beat 4-3-3 im tryin 3-4-3 play wide working well

    btw 2 other good tactics with rubbish teams are 3-5-2 sos and 3-5-2 passing game

    and 5-4-1 counter attk beat 4-5-1 sos evry time

  189. I got a premium season ticket. I made my league yesterday and it starts in 4 days. I had another account before but it got banned coz my brother made an account in the same league as me. I’ve played for about 1 year and i’ve came 1st with barcalona. 5th with wigan. 1st with man u, 2nd with fulham. 6th with s’land, 2nd with inter, 1st with juventus, 1st with leeds, 7th with everton, but enough about me ill let u in on my tactics.

    Offensive tactic A. (For teams that are worse than you)

    3-4-3
    Hard style
    Play wide
    +1 Offensive
    Zonal
    offside trap off
    pressing on
    defenders stay back
    midfeilders support attackers
    attackers attack only

    Offensive tactic B (for teams that are worse or around your skill level)

    4-4-2
    Hard
    Passing Game
    +1 Offensive
    Zonal
    offside trap off
    pressing on
    defenders stay back
    midfeilders neutral
    attackers attack only

    Defensive tactic (for teams that will fart in your face)
    4-5-1
    Hard
    Shoot on sight
    +1 Defensive
    Zonal
    offside trap off
    pressing on
    Defenders stay back
    midfeilders support defence
    attackers attack only

    there, thats wat i do.

    P.S Keep in mind that if your at home u have a huge advantage. If the other team who your versing is using a very stupid tactic (maybe they wanna try it out) then use an offensive tactic or defensive depending on what they do.

    Most people will play 3-4-3 play wide or 4-4-2 passing game. Just play according to the skill of the players in your team and ull be fine.

  190. Hi i’m the real dragon. i’m only gonna comment once on this page so if anyone else comments after its not me ok?

    Ill give u some tips that is rarely known.
    Age:
    -Young players train quicker than older players.
    -Older players are more experienced than younger players so they tend to score more.

    Formation:
    -do whatever fits ur squad if ur squad is packed with really good strikers have a formation that has 3-4 strikers in it. -I agree with the poster above me (oliverg1994) the best formation is 3-4-3 with play wide

    Tactics
    -usually play hard if u have an offensive formation and play wide or passing game if u have one.
    -Pressing never hurts

    Season Tickets
    -One of the best ways to win is to continually add to ur squad. Get season tickets so u can use scout feature.
    -When u have season tickets you can upgrade ur stadium which increases ur chances of winning and also can speed up ur trainings.

    Overall just do what fits ur squad and counter what ur oppenents are doing. The more time u spend in the game the better ur results will be. Also keep trying new things if its not working for u sell some of ur players buy new ones or change ur squad around.

    mr onlinedragon

  191. hahaha (Quote:/)Defensive tactic (for teams that will fart in your face)(/endquote)

  192. 532 is the best tactic to use passing game ever thing on an +1 offensive it can beat 523 433 451 and 631 u only use 532 if you have an awesome team like me