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		<title>By: Chumbs</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51806</link>
		<dc:creator>Chumbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry has turned his back on &#039;the club that gave him life&#039;, when he was at juve he was unknown now hes the arsenal record goalscore undoing da ledgendary Ian Wright.

True club heros are loyal 1s like Totti, Maldini, Costacurta, Giggs, Scholes... those are the type of players that are emortalised by the fans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry has turned his back on &#8216;the club that gave him life&#8217;, when he was at juve he was unknown now hes the arsenal record goalscore undoing da ledgendary Ian Wright.</p>
<p>True club heros are loyal 1s like Totti, Maldini, Costacurta, Giggs, Scholes&#8230; those are the type of players that are emortalised by the fans</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrei - Beckham was kicked out of Man Utd, didn&#039;t leave on his own. Surprised that you didn&#039;t know this (also angry that I can give you shit on this :P )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei &#8211; Beckham was kicked out of Man Utd, didn&#8217;t leave on his own. Surprised that you didn&#8217;t know this (also angry that I can give you shit on this <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: avijerseyno9</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51705</link>
		<dc:creator>avijerseyno9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The few great players i remember who had this ingredient of loyalty were Fernando Redondo and Alan Shearer. After the dickhead Florentino PÃ©rez at Real Madrid forced him to move to AC Milan, at Milan he was constantly injured for 2 years. So he simply refused to take the wages for that period. Now that&#039;s loyalty.
Alan Shearer symbolized this virtue. For him it was always Newcastle even when the biggest clubs were after him.

Even Sebastian Diesler who has been injured for ages and thinks he can&#039;t play to the level of his absolutely brilliant self, chooses to retire instead.

They are a rare breed fast approaching extinction. Now we have crooks like Ronaldo who recuperate at Inter without playing more than 8 games for seasons and then jump the ship to Real Madrid when they feel fit.
Also Michael Owen who even at the time of being rescued from Real Madrid insert buy out clauses in their contract. Recuperate without playing for ages and as soon as they cab run they want to move to a different club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The few great players i remember who had this ingredient of loyalty were Fernando Redondo and Alan Shearer. After the dickhead Florentino PÃ©rez at Real Madrid forced him to move to AC Milan, at Milan he was constantly injured for 2 years. So he simply refused to take the wages for that period. Now that&#8217;s loyalty.<br />
Alan Shearer symbolized this virtue. For him it was always Newcastle even when the biggest clubs were after him.</p>
<p>Even Sebastian Diesler who has been injured for ages and thinks he can&#8217;t play to the level of his absolutely brilliant self, chooses to retire instead.</p>
<p>They are a rare breed fast approaching extinction. Now we have crooks like Ronaldo who recuperate at Inter without playing more than 8 games for seasons and then jump the ship to Real Madrid when they feel fit.<br />
Also Michael Owen who even at the time of being rescued from Real Madrid insert buy out clauses in their contract. Recuperate without playing for ages and as soon as they cab run they want to move to a different club.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51702</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, dont&#039;t we all love the Figo&#039;s and Beckhams of this world? They betrayed the fans which saw them as idols (I know bacause for most of my childhood Beckham was more popular than my parents with me) but in the end gained nothing. Each of them moved from one champion to another and the only thing that was different was the size of their salary and the enviroment they lived in. I think that when you start to play football for a living it becomes less enjoyable than playing it with your friends and all of a sudden it is not playing that matters it is what you gain from it. Players can gain two things from football: money and medals once they got bored of playing. And if they dont have either by the end of careers with thousands of hours of  training and sometimes numeros terrifing injuries, they wonder why they wasted their life on football in the first place. I think that justifies the reason that Gareth Bale, for example, left Southampton and joined Spurs.

That being said, football fans have to pay an enormous amount of respect to G Neville and Maldini for sticking with their teams for their entire careers (but keep in mind that Man Utd and AC Milan are as big as they get).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, dont&#8217;t we all love the Figo&#8217;s and Beckhams of this world? They betrayed the fans which saw them as idols (I know bacause for most of my childhood Beckham was more popular than my parents with me) but in the end gained nothing. Each of them moved from one champion to another and the only thing that was different was the size of their salary and the enviroment they lived in. I think that when you start to play football for a living it becomes less enjoyable than playing it with your friends and all of a sudden it is not playing that matters it is what you gain from it. Players can gain two things from football: money and medals once they got bored of playing. And if they dont have either by the end of careers with thousands of hours of  training and sometimes numeros terrifing injuries, they wonder why they wasted their life on football in the first place. I think that justifies the reason that Gareth Bale, for example, left Southampton and joined Spurs.</p>
<p>That being said, football fans have to pay an enormous amount of respect to G Neville and Maldini for sticking with their teams for their entire careers (but keep in mind that Man Utd and AC Milan are as big as they get).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51686</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>henry is disloyal
2006 &#039;barca are cheaters&#039; &amp; &#039;im going to end my career at arsenal&#039;
2007 &#039;im moving to barcelona&#039;

unloyal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>henry is disloyal<br />
2006 &#8216;barca are cheaters&#8217; &amp; &#8216;im going to end my career at arsenal&#8217;<br />
2007 &#8216;im moving to barcelona&#8217;</p>
<p>unloyal</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51667</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[The Artful Lounger]
leave cool guy alone, as his name suggests he&#039;s probably still living like its nineteen eighty something :P... 

[cool guy]
get out of your bubble, use google, search for Henry, you&#039;ll see him in a Barca shirt... (SHOCK, DESPAIR!!!)

 :p :p :P ;) ;) ;)

just kidding, i cant help myself sometimes, sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[The Artful Lounger]<br />
leave cool guy alone, as his name suggests he&#8217;s probably still living like its nineteen eighty something <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; </p>
<p>[cool guy]<br />
get out of your bubble, use google, search for Henry, you&#8217;ll see him in a Barca shirt&#8230; (SHOCK, DESPAIR!!!)</p>
<p> :p :p <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>just kidding, i cant help myself sometimes, sorry</p>
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		<title>By: The Artful Lounger</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/club-loyalty-vs-player-ambition/2239/#comment-51664</link>
		<dc:creator>The Artful Lounger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool Guy - Humm, no, Henry is now a Barca player. You do realise that, right?

re: the topic itself
Much as the fans adore the idea of a one-club player, the likes of Gary Neville and Paolo Maldini are a dying breed. In today&#039;s environment, where talents are exchanged/bought/sold each season, players are far more likely to have played for at least 2 clubs. It&#039;s just a matter of which club will receive the best of the players&#039; years. 

For these footballers, football is a job  - it pays their (exorbitant) salaries and it brings money home to their families. Granted, the figures are astronomical but it&#039;s ultimately a job. As with any other job, you move for pretty much the same reason as the average Joe does - better pay, better environment etc. The difference of course that in football, glory and titles are at stake. 

United&#039;s Michael Carrick is an easy but good example - West Ham to Spurs to United. He has admitted that every move was done with the aim of having a better chance at a higher level of success. His PL Champions&#039; medal will certainly justify his actions in his eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Guy &#8211; Humm, no, Henry is now a Barca player. You do realise that, right?</p>
<p>re: the topic itself<br />
Much as the fans adore the idea of a one-club player, the likes of Gary Neville and Paolo Maldini are a dying breed. In today&#8217;s environment, where talents are exchanged/bought/sold each season, players are far more likely to have played for at least 2 clubs. It&#8217;s just a matter of which club will receive the best of the players&#8217; years. </p>
<p>For these footballers, football is a job  &#8211; it pays their (exorbitant) salaries and it brings money home to their families. Granted, the figures are astronomical but it&#8217;s ultimately a job. As with any other job, you move for pretty much the same reason as the average Joe does &#8211; better pay, better environment etc. The difference of course that in football, glory and titles are at stake. </p>
<p>United&#8217;s Michael Carrick is an easy but good example &#8211; West Ham to Spurs to United. He has admitted that every move was done with the aim of having a better chance at a higher level of success. His PL Champions&#8217; medal will certainly justify his actions in his eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: cool guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>henry is still in arsenal AHMED!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>henry is still in arsenal AHMED!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think loyalty is with the fans and as for the players I think its only some of them with most of them its just a job. When another team offers better package, environment, they go for it. Unfortunately its true but the good thing is that when they play for the team, most of them are professional to give their very best. Thats good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think loyalty is with the fans and as for the players I think its only some of them with most of them its just a job. When another team offers better package, environment, they go for it. Unfortunately its true but the good thing is that when they play for the team, most of them are professional to give their very best. Thats good.</p>
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