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		<title>By: Karan</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-sour-grapes/2094/#comment-49795</link>
		<dc:creator>Karan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Schwarzenegger said in one of my favorite movies, &quot;I&#039;ll be back&quot;. :)

This is my first stab at web journalism, and I really like the feel of it so you can rest assured I will most certainly write again. And I will definitely add a generous dollop of neutrality next time around too. See you guys when I see you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Schwarzenegger said in one of my favorite movies, &#8220;I&#8217;ll be back&#8221;. <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This is my first stab at web journalism, and I really like the feel of it so you can rest assured I will most certainly write again. And I will definitely add a generous dollop of neutrality next time around too. See you guys when I see you</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-sour-grapes/2094/#comment-49764</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DBeech - with players right in front of the agents, forgetting that what they say / do reflects on the fans and the club?

I wonder why we care in the first place :)

Overall, Karan, hope you write again mate, although picking a more neutral topic next time would at least get the bias accusations out of the way (which really take the conversation no where, as do Sid&#039;s comments, who only comments here to bitch, not to add to the discussion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DBeech &#8211; with players right in front of the agents, forgetting that what they say / do reflects on the fans and the club?</p>
<p>I wonder why we care in the first place <img src='http://soccerlens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Overall, Karan, hope you write again mate, although picking a more neutral topic next time would at least get the bias accusations out of the way (which really take the conversation no where, as do Sid&#8217;s comments, who only comments here to bitch, not to add to the discussion).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian W</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-sour-grapes/2094/#comment-49720</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any team that spends mega millions like Chelsea and Manchester United as of late are guranteed to buy players that do not work out as well in the end. Since Chelsea has bought more players as of late, it is only logical to assume that more failures will be a result.

Furthermore, your argument regarding RVD&#039;s success is severly flawed. You claim RVD was brought in and turned into a star, whereas Chelsea failed
to make Kezman a household name. You claim this is representative of the entire argument. However...

the real argument exists where Chelsea does not believe Nani has a good reputation before being bought for that much money. Whereas the RVD/Kezman debate is based on how the clubs coached or did not coach them into stars, the question of Nani is totally different: Chelsea believes Man Utd overpaid, Man Utd believes Nani will be a stud.

Therefore, erally, your entire argument is flawed based n an example that doesn&#039;t even hold merit with the point of the article. A club&#039;s ability to turn RVD into quality or destroy Kezman&#039;s career has no ties to wheter or not a club feels a pleyer was overpaid for or not.

I suggest that before you pen your enxt baised article, you actually take the time to find an example to your argument apprpriate enough to highlight your thoughts, rather than grasping for straws in an attempt to pin the tail on Chelsea as the root of all evil in buying expensive players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any team that spends mega millions like Chelsea and Manchester United as of late are guranteed to buy players that do not work out as well in the end. Since Chelsea has bought more players as of late, it is only logical to assume that more failures will be a result.</p>
<p>Furthermore, your argument regarding RVD&#8217;s success is severly flawed. You claim RVD was brought in and turned into a star, whereas Chelsea failed<br />
to make Kezman a household name. You claim this is representative of the entire argument. However&#8230;</p>
<p>the real argument exists where Chelsea does not believe Nani has a good reputation before being bought for that much money. Whereas the RVD/Kezman debate is based on how the clubs coached or did not coach them into stars, the question of Nani is totally different: Chelsea believes Man Utd overpaid, Man Utd believes Nani will be a stud.</p>
<p>Therefore, erally, your entire argument is flawed based n an example that doesn&#8217;t even hold merit with the point of the article. A club&#8217;s ability to turn RVD into quality or destroy Kezman&#8217;s career has no ties to wheter or not a club feels a pleyer was overpaid for or not.</p>
<p>I suggest that before you pen your enxt baised article, you actually take the time to find an example to your argument apprpriate enough to highlight your thoughts, rather than grasping for straws in an attempt to pin the tail on Chelsea as the root of all evil in buying expensive players.</p>
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		<title>By: DBeech</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-sour-grapes/2094/#comment-49717</link>
		<dc:creator>DBeech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scouts sit just behind agents in the category of &#039;idiots who forget that their comments represent the people they work for&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scouts sit just behind agents in the category of &#8216;idiots who forget that their comments represent the people they work for&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: King of Zamunda</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-sour-grapes/2094/#comment-49571</link>
		<dc:creator>King of Zamunda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, first off I&#039;m a United fan. Secondly, Chelsea &amp; United are guilty of the same thing- big bucks on big chumps &amp; champs(Champs- RVN and The Drog; oh and come on, don&#039;t even think about going there with Drogba [who is a colossal footballer I&#039;d like to add] being better than Da Ruud, on a par maybe, but not better. Chumps-Veron &amp; Sheva [hurts me to write that, really does] fitting the bill perfectly). Thirdly- who gives a crap about some cub, sorry club, scout who may or may not be masking his and his employer&#039;s envy with double entendres? Nani and anderson both cost a lot of money, crucially both are very young- both fit the mould of what the club in question want and need which is raw talent bloodied over a couple of seasons to devastating effect (Cris Ron anyone?). Now back to sour grapes- let&#039;s not deny the nature of this game, it&#039;s all sour grapes be it from united or mourinho fc.
Nuff Sed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, first off I&#8217;m a United fan. Secondly, Chelsea &amp; United are guilty of the same thing- big bucks on big chumps &amp; champs(Champs- RVN and The Drog; oh and come on, don&#8217;t even think about going there with Drogba [who is a colossal footballer I'd like to add] being better than Da Ruud, on a par maybe, but not better. Chumps-Veron &amp; Sheva [hurts me to write that, really does] fitting the bill perfectly). Thirdly- who gives a crap about some cub, sorry club, scout who may or may not be masking his and his employer&#8217;s envy with double entendres? Nani and anderson both cost a lot of money, crucially both are very young- both fit the mould of what the club in question want and need which is raw talent bloodied over a couple of seasons to devastating effect (Cris Ron anyone?). Now back to sour grapes- let&#8217;s not deny the nature of this game, it&#8217;s all sour grapes be it from united or mourinho fc.<br />
Nuff Sed.</p>
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		<title>By: manu for ever</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-sour-grapes/2094/#comment-49383</link>
		<dc:creator>manu for ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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UTD never commented ..they proved they were the best in the field thats where a great club is differentiated from a club which achieved greatness through overnight money and no hardwork...utd is known to develop great young guns..chelsea is a suicide for so many players....we reigned in the EPL throughout 90s through bunch of kids who became footballing legends....we gave new life to king eric...(brilliant footballing brain from the great sir alex)..unlike chelsea who bought success through hijacking players ,utd executives,....by paying huge cash....some ridiculous spending such as 21mill for SWP,24mill  for drogba(miserable for 3 years),27 mill for essein (man utd find),12mill for mikel and 15mill for veron spoiled and ruined duff,kezman,gudjhonsen,etc...utd also flopped with veron..becoz he could not find place in utds first team thats all,forlon the same problem,about kleberson he was considered to bet the best for brazil..infact before chelsea going for african and south american players it was united which started bringing these players into EPL,kleberson could not adapt and he did not prove to be a loss,.....in the case of anderson who unlike kleberson has european experience with porto and a great talent nani has been an exceptional talent and it seems a great investment becoz they are here not to create instant success but history (take note of that chelsea)....chelsea cannot groom any world beaters...they can just hijack players..so they have to be very cautious about commenting infact im not bothered about them because...barking dogs seldom bite..the way they are having mind games like their boss their scout all having a dig on man utd itself suggest that they more than their football skills believe in all these cheap mind games which is a symtom of surrender,and reconfirms my staunch belief that no matter how many roman come and invest billions in chelsea, they cannot dethrown united who are the kings of ENGLISH FOOTBALL( through hardwork,adeptness and moreover through footballing ethics).</description>
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<p>UTD never commented ..they proved they were the best in the field thats where a great club is differentiated from a club which achieved greatness through overnight money and no hardwork&#8230;utd is known to develop great young guns..chelsea is a suicide for so many players&#8230;.we reigned in the EPL throughout 90s through bunch of kids who became footballing legends&#8230;.we gave new life to king eric&#8230;(brilliant footballing brain from the great sir alex)..unlike chelsea who bought success through hijacking players ,utd executives,&#8230;.by paying huge cash&#8230;.some ridiculous spending such as 21mill for SWP,24mill  for drogba(miserable for 3 years),27 mill for essein (man utd find),12mill for mikel and 15mill for veron spoiled and ruined duff,kezman,gudjhonsen,etc&#8230;utd also flopped with veron..becoz he could not find place in utds first team thats all,forlon the same problem,about kleberson he was considered to bet the best for brazil..infact before chelsea going for african and south american players it was united which started bringing these players into EPL,kleberson could not adapt and he did not prove to be a loss,&#8230;..in the case of anderson who unlike kleberson has european experience with porto and a great talent nani has been an exceptional talent and it seems a great investment becoz they are here not to create instant success but history (take note of that chelsea)&#8230;.chelsea cannot groom any world beaters&#8230;they can just hijack players..so they have to be very cautious about commenting infact im not bothered about them because&#8230;barking dogs seldom bite..the way they are having mind games like their boss their scout all having a dig on man utd itself suggest that they more than their football skills believe in all these cheap mind games which is a symtom of surrender,and reconfirms my staunch belief that no matter how many roman come and invest billions in chelsea, they cannot dethrown united who are the kings of ENGLISH FOOTBALL( through hardwork,adeptness and moreover through footballing ethics).</p>
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		<title>By: manu for ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>manu for ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chelsea sour grapes this can be redefined as the premiership title race begins in june with the mind games starting up...but i think it really shows how a club like chelsea and its coach mourinho is....last season when chelsa was splashing cash just to break EPL TRANSFER RECORDS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chelsea sour grapes this can be redefined as the premiership title race begins in june with the mind games starting up&#8230;but i think it really shows how a club like chelsea and its coach mourinho is&#8230;.last season when chelsa was splashing cash just to break EPL TRANSFER RECORDS</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United may have invested big money in the team this summer, but it also leaves a team well settled for the next 5-6 years. Of course few positions need to be changed (can only really think of Neville with no long term cover right now), so we should only expect minor investment in the team next summer - if any at all. If the youngsters (Rossi, Pique, Evans, Foster, Nani, Anderson) break through as their talents suggest, there won&#039;t be much need for spending big in quite a while.

This has obviously been SAF&#039;s goal, and obviously Chelsea comment on that, and of course they&#039;re not too impressed. That&#039;s the way of the media. But he did say that Nani has what it takes, as long as he can get his **** together, which obviously he will at OT as so many youngsters have done before him. He&#039;s at the perfect club for a player of his talent, and so is Anderson (who no one doubts btw).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United may have invested big money in the team this summer, but it also leaves a team well settled for the next 5-6 years. Of course few positions need to be changed (can only really think of Neville with no long term cover right now), so we should only expect minor investment in the team next summer &#8211; if any at all. If the youngsters (Rossi, Pique, Evans, Foster, Nani, Anderson) break through as their talents suggest, there won&#8217;t be much need for spending big in quite a while.</p>
<p>This has obviously been SAF&#8217;s goal, and obviously Chelsea comment on that, and of course they&#8217;re not too impressed. That&#8217;s the way of the media. But he did say that Nani has what it takes, as long as he can get his **** together, which obviously he will at OT as so many youngsters have done before him. He&#8217;s at the perfect club for a player of his talent, and so is Anderson (who no one doubts btw).</p>
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		<title>By: Melon head</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melon head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>De Vissier&#039;s comments should be taken as a warning and not just sour grapes. Just as with Chelsea if Man United start paying over the odds for players unproven in the premiership, will they not then be expected to start paying over the odds for proven Premiership players? Blackburn&#039;s Bennie McCarthy came from same league as Nani and yet only now after proving himself in the Premiership is he valued the same as Nani. If United were in need of a striker (fortunately not the case) how much would they then be expected to pay for his services? It&#039;s time for an independent valuation committee to put an end to over the odds spending. Maybe then instead of buying young talent, clubs will start cultivating young talent. But then again &quot;Young players are a little bit like melons. Only when you open and taste the melon are you 100 per cent sure that the melon is good&quot; Mourinho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De Vissier&#8217;s comments should be taken as a warning and not just sour grapes. Just as with Chelsea if Man United start paying over the odds for players unproven in the premiership, will they not then be expected to start paying over the odds for proven Premiership players? Blackburn&#8217;s Bennie McCarthy came from same league as Nani and yet only now after proving himself in the Premiership is he valued the same as Nani. If United were in need of a striker (fortunately not the case) how much would they then be expected to pay for his services? It&#8217;s time for an independent valuation committee to put an end to over the odds spending. Maybe then instead of buying young talent, clubs will start cultivating young talent. But then again &#8220;Young players are a little bit like melons. Only when you open and taste the melon are you 100 per cent sure that the melon is good&#8221; Mourinho</p>
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		<title>By: Karan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob...the last time i checked sarcasm was still in vogue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob&#8230;the last time i checked sarcasm was still in vogue</p>
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