Comments on: Chelsea and the peculiar case of Frank Lampard http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/ Football News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:17:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: UK Football/ Soccer Player Frank Lampard launches own mobile TV channel. « The Q2 Report http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-56534 UK Football/ Soccer Player Frank Lampard launches own mobile TV channel. « The Q2 Report Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:47:20 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-56534 [...] · No Comments He even beat out Beckham! Chelsea FC and England footballer (soccer player) Frank Lampard is set to become the first footballer to have his own mobile TV channel in the [...] [...] · No Comments He even beat out Beckham! Chelsea FC and England footballer (soccer player) Frank Lampard is set to become the first footballer to have his own mobile TV channel in the [...]

]]> By: jaluo manutd http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55502 jaluo manutd Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:39:21 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55502 SURELY! WHAT DO U EXPECT FROM A PLAYER WHO DOES NOT HAVE TO FIGHT FOR HIS POSITION. HE'S AUTOMATIC CHOICE FOR BOTH CLUB AND COUNTRY AND HE KNOWS THAT. YOU MUST EARN POSITION IN A TEAM NOT GIFTED. I THINK MOURINHO AND MAC SHOUL MAKE HIM KNOW THAT SURELY! WHAT DO U EXPECT FROM A PLAYER WHO DOES NOT HAVE TO FIGHT FOR HIS POSITION. HE’S AUTOMATIC CHOICE FOR BOTH CLUB AND COUNTRY AND HE KNOWS THAT. YOU MUST EARN POSITION IN A TEAM NOT GIFTED. I THINK MOURINHO AND MAC SHOUL MAKE HIM KNOW THAT

]]> By: Robin http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55462 Robin Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:23:42 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55462 Top class article, really well researched. I agree that Lampard doesn't look hungry anymore, its a real shame that his fire has been replaced by complacency. I can't remember which article it was but someone has already commented that Murinho comment that he was the best player in the game, in essence, ruined Lampard because it went right to his head. I am not by any means a fan of Chelsea or Lampard but a determined Lampard can only be good for England so I hope he turns it around Top class article, really well researched. I agree that Lampard doesn’t look hungry anymore, its a real shame that his fire has been replaced by complacency. I can’t remember which article it was but someone has already commented that Murinho comment that he was the best player in the game, in essence, ruined Lampard because it went right to his head. I am not by any means a fan of Chelsea or Lampard but a determined Lampard can only be good for England so I hope he turns it around

]]> By: Brian W http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55406 Brian W Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:47:48 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55406 Many of you are way too hard on Frankie Lam. The guy was the best midfielder in the Premiership for two years, and was a key guy in the Blues back to back titles. Now, the guy has a year many players would dream of, and he's being bashed. True, Lamps struggled at times this year with his form, but his criticism is unfair because he was playing at such a high level beforehand. The guy is overshadowed by the scouser fuck Stevie G from 'Pool and that isn't his problem. Frank has always been an attacking midfielder, and this year simply was put in a position where he could not make his plays as usual. The reversion to a 4-4-2 eliminated most of Chelsea's wing play, casuing Lamps to have to look farther for help on the pitch. Any player would struggle with this change after having dominated the with another formation the previous two years. I'm looking forward to him bouncing back this year and helping our boys compete for the title yet again. Many of you are way too hard on Frankie Lam. The guy was the best midfielder in the Premiership for two years, and was a key guy in the Blues back to back titles. Now, the guy has a year many players would dream of, and he’s being bashed.

True, Lamps struggled at times this year with his form, but his criticism is unfair because he was playing at such a high level beforehand.

The guy is overshadowed by the scouser fuck Stevie G from ‘Pool and that isn’t his problem. Frank has always been an attacking midfielder, and this year simply was put in a position where he could not make his plays as usual. The reversion to a 4-4-2 eliminated most of Chelsea’s wing play, casuing Lamps to have to look farther for help on the pitch. Any player would struggle with this change after having dominated the with another formation the previous two years.

I’m looking forward to him bouncing back this year and helping our boys compete for the title yet again.

]]> By: beaveraldinho http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55338 beaveraldinho Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:40:35 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55338 "Any player with serious ambitions shouldn't be touching Serie A" Italian serie A is fine again now and if this were true why havn't players like kaka left even after having huge offers thrown his way from about 10 different clubs (madrid being the main club offering a 60 million euro deal) “Any player with serious ambitions shouldn’t be touching Serie A” Italian serie A is fine again now and if this were true why havn’t players like kaka left even after having huge offers thrown his way from about 10 different clubs (madrid being the main club offering a 60 million euro deal)

]]> By: 5yearplan http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55334 5yearplan Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:11:38 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55334 Liverpool supporter here, so you can get in your shouts of bias etc before we start, but I have watched lampard a lot last couple of seasons and frankly he isn't the complete player that everybody seems to claim he is. Before we start in on the gerrard/lampard comparisions this isn't about gerrard its about Lampards all round game. The goal statistics are not going to be argued about, but it is in lampards overall contribution that we can find reason to critisise, his passing is not of the incisive defense splitting ball, his tackling is average and it is no wonder that most chelsea fans point to his goals as defense for his poor showing elsewhere I agree that tiredness is going to contribute to his form and is probably a part solution, but in my opnion the problem is that frank has started to believe his own hype. Instead of working harder to cement his place in the elite he seems to have rested on his laurels and bathed in the spot light glow. this article is not the first from a chelsea fan I have seen critisising Frank, and I have to ask if fans and in most cases longlife fans are questioning his contribution then maybe jose needs to try something different. Incidentally as a liverpool fan I hope you continue with him, I no longer fear him and feel his quality is not a threat anymore. Liverpool supporter here, so you can get in your shouts of bias etc before we start, but I have watched lampard a lot last couple of seasons and frankly he isn’t the complete player that everybody seems to claim he is.
Before we start in on the gerrard/lampard comparisions this isn’t about gerrard its about Lampards all round game.
The goal statistics are not going to be argued about, but it is in lampards overall contribution that we can find reason to critisise, his passing is not of the incisive defense splitting ball, his tackling is average and it is no wonder that most chelsea fans point to his goals as defense for his poor showing elsewhere
I agree that tiredness is going to contribute to his form and is probably a part solution, but in my opnion the problem is that frank has started to believe his own hype.
Instead of working harder to cement his place in the elite he seems to have rested on his laurels and bathed in the spot light glow.
this article is not the first from a chelsea fan I have seen critisising Frank, and I have to ask if fans and in most cases longlife fans are questioning his contribution then maybe jose needs to try something different.
Incidentally as a liverpool fan I hope you continue with him, I no longer fear him and feel his quality is not a threat anymore.

]]> By: Eugene Quinn http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55321 Eugene Quinn Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:20:14 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55321 Hugo I knew I'd forgotten someone, Iniesta was in my thought process, but I must have just lost him somewhere in the typing. That's a given anyways, he's a nifty enough player for Barca, of what I've seen. Hugo

I knew I’d forgotten someone, Iniesta was in my thought process, but I must have just lost him somewhere in the typing. That’s a given anyways, he’s a nifty enough player for Barca, of what I’ve seen.

]]> By: Conor http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55318 Conor Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:30:30 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55318 Alwaysblue, there wasn't a '2004 world cup' so it seems in your comment you weren't thinking straight, which makes sense since I doubt anyone other than a Chelsea supporter would rather have Lampard ahead of Gerrard, he may have been slightly better but he's never been as passionate as Stevie G and even Sir Alex has said many times that he thinks he's a world class player, even before the '2004 world cup', so don't overexaggerate things. And Hugo, 'We were asked when the last time had been that Lampard had led from the front for Chelsea: well, it doesn't happen as often as it used to, perhaps, but that might have more to do with the style of football used, the Dider-Drogba-is-our-battering-ram-and-we're-going-to-work-him-like-a-Makelele-”slave” punt of which Mourinho is very fond. Doesn't exactly play to the Lampard strengths.' that was when lampard played at his best, the first two years with Drogba, and since that system changed last season we seen lampard become less effective. It was perfect for him, hit the ball up to Drogba, Lampard picks up the loose balls and shoots. And jeff thats not much of an excuse, people aren't judging him on one game, there judging him on over 50 games, when he didn't play as well as he did before, and plenty of players have had less rest than him. Alwaysblue, there wasn’t a ’2004 world cup’ so it seems in your comment you weren’t thinking straight, which makes sense since I doubt anyone other than a Chelsea supporter would rather have Lampard ahead of Gerrard, he may have been slightly better but he’s never been as passionate as Stevie G and even Sir Alex has said many times that he thinks he’s a world class player, even before the ’2004 world cup’, so don’t overexaggerate things.
And Hugo, ‘We were asked when the last time had been that Lampard had led from the front for Chelsea: well, it doesn’t happen as often as it used to, perhaps, but that might have more to do with the style of football used, the Dider-Drogba-is-our-battering-ram-and-we’re-going-to-work-him-like-a-Makelele-”slave” punt of which Mourinho is very fond. Doesn’t exactly play to the Lampard strengths.’ that was when lampard played at his best, the first two years with Drogba, and since that system changed last season we seen lampard become less effective. It was perfect for him, hit the ball up to Drogba, Lampard picks up the loose balls and shoots.

And jeff thats not much of an excuse, people aren’t judging him on one game, there judging him on over 50 games, when he didn’t play as well as he did before, and plenty of players have had less rest than him.

]]> By: avijerseyno9 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55317 avijerseyno9 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:23:36 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55317 You mentioned that last season Lampard for most of the time did not feature in the play. Others mentioned that all season selfish Lampard took potshots at the goal from long range. Let's try analyze this problem. Can a player act selfish the entire season for 38+ games. (The manager would surely speak to the player to correct him.) Frank's attempts at solo goals were from a good distance away unlike the close range selfish efforts of strikers who choose to go for the goal by themselves instead of passing the ball which would have cirtainly resulted in a goal. Thus there was the all more reason for Jose Mourinho to tell Frank that he a put a stop to this solo glory efforts coz the game is about the team and not about him alone. But he kept at it the entire season which means he had the confidence of Jose, who thinks Lampard can deliver from such distances. As his previous seasons tally shows he did deliver the results for Chelsea so this taking potshots was in fact part of a planned strategy. Last season Jose only had one in form striker in Drogba. Kolou could not be banked on to deliver the goods and Shevchenko was out of sorts. So why not ask Lampard to step up and try getting 15+ goals from him. If Jose plays Lampard in the striker's role he would be constricted for space and it would be an unfamiliar position for him. He asked him not to do midfielder's hard work on ground, instead act as third striker from a distance. It also avoided the risk of injury which had already plagued his squad. The other managers understood this strategy and towards the end of the season started cramping Lampard for room which resulted in his loosing possession frequently. So friends contrary to your notion, Lampard did an exceptional job last season and that is the reason his wages have been up-scaled to 130K Pounds and there are Big clubs like Barcelona and Juventus after him. Just remember under the management of Jose don't judge a Lampard by checking if he played to his 2003-05 season's displayed potential, instead judge him by checking how well did he essay the role entrusted to him by Jose. Hence add to Lampard's quality list, Versatility and you will understand why Chelsea don't want to even listen to any offers for Lampard unlike Robben where Chelsea is waiting for the right price. You mentioned that last season Lampard for most of the time did not feature in the play. Others mentioned that all season selfish Lampard took potshots at the goal from long range.

Let’s try analyze this problem.
Can a player act selfish the entire season for 38+ games. (The manager would surely speak to the player to correct him.)
Frank’s attempts at solo goals were from a good distance away unlike the close range selfish efforts of strikers who choose to go for the goal by themselves instead of passing the ball which would have cirtainly resulted in a goal. Thus there was the all more reason for Jose Mourinho to tell Frank that he a put a stop to this solo glory efforts coz the game is about the team and not about him alone. But he kept at it the entire season which means he had the confidence of Jose, who thinks Lampard can deliver from such distances. As his previous seasons tally shows he did deliver the results for Chelsea so this taking potshots was in fact part of a planned strategy.

Last season Jose only had one in form striker in Drogba. Kolou could not be banked on to deliver the goods and Shevchenko was out of sorts. So why not ask Lampard to step up and try getting 15+ goals from him. If Jose plays Lampard in the striker’s role he would be constricted for space and it would be an unfamiliar position for him. He asked him not to do midfielder’s hard work on ground, instead act as third striker from a distance. It also avoided the risk of injury which had already plagued his squad. The other managers understood this strategy and towards the end of the season started cramping Lampard for room which resulted in his loosing possession frequently.

So friends contrary to your notion, Lampard did an exceptional job last season and that is the reason his wages have been up-scaled to 130K Pounds and there are Big clubs like Barcelona and Juventus after him.
Just remember under the management of Jose don’t judge a Lampard by checking if he played to his 2003-05 season’s displayed potential, instead judge him by checking how well did he essay the role entrusted to him by Jose. Hence add to Lampard’s quality list, Versatility and you will understand why Chelsea don’t want to even listen to any offers for Lampard unlike Robben where Chelsea is waiting for the right price.

]]> By: avijerseyno9 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55315 avijerseyno9 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:19:43 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/chelsea-and-the-peculiar-case-of-frank-lampard/2693/#comment-55315 You mentioned that last season Lampard for most of the time did not feature in the play. Others mentioned that all season selfish Lampard took potshots at the goal from long range. Let's try analyze this problem. Can a player act selfish the entire season for 38+ games. (The manager would surely speak to the player to correct him.) Frank's attempts at solo goals were from a good distance away unlike the close range selfish efforts of strikers who choose to go for the goal by themselves instead of passing the ball which would have cirtainly resulted in a goal. Thus there was the all more reason for Jose Mourinho to tell Frank that he a put a stop to this solo glory efforts coz the game is about the team and not about him alone. But he kept at it the entire season which means he had the confidence of Jose, who thinks Lampard can deliver from such distances. As his previous seasons tally shows he did deliver the results for Chelsea so this taking potshots was in fact part of a planned strategy. Last season Jose only had one in form striker in Drogba. Kolou could not be banked on to deliver the goods and Shevchenko was out of sorts. So why not ask Lampard to step up and try getting 15+ goals from him. If Jose plays Lampard in the striker's role he would be constricted for space and it would be an unfamiliar position for him. He asked him not to do midfielder's hard work on ground, instead act as third striker from a distance. It also avoided the risk of injury which had already plagued his squad. The other managers understood this strategy and towards the end of the season started cramping Lampard for room which resulted in his loosing possession frequently. So friends contrary to your notion, Lampard did an exceptional job last season and that is the reason his wages have been up-scaled to 130K Pounds and there are Big clubs like Barcelona and Juventus after him. Just remember under the management of Jose don't judge a Lampard by checking if he played to his 2003-05 season's displayed potential, instead judge him by checking how well did he essay the role entrusted to him by Jose. Hence add to Lampard's quality list, Versatility and you will understand why Chelsea don't want to even listen to any offers for Lampard unlike Robben where Chelsea is waiting for the right price. You mentioned that last season Lampard for most of the time did not feature in the play. Others mentioned that all season selfish Lampard took potshots at the goal from long range.

Let’s try analyze this problem.
Can a player act selfish the entire season for 38+ games. (The manager would surely speak to the player to correct him.)
Frank’s attempts at solo goals were from a good distance away unlike the close range selfish efforts of strikers who choose to go for the goal by themselves instead of passing the ball which would have cirtainly resulted in a goal. Thus there was the all more reason for Jose Mourinho to tell Frank that he a put a stop to this solo glory efforts coz the game is about the team and not about him alone. But he kept at it the entire season which means he had the confidence of Jose, who thinks Lampard can deliver from such distances. As his previous seasons tally shows he did deliver the results for Chelsea so this taking potshots was in fact part of a planned strategy.
Last season Jose only had one in form striker in Drogba. Kolou could not be banked on to deliver the goods and Shevchenko was out of sorts. So why not ask Lampard to step up and try getting 15+ goals from him. If Jose plays Lampard in the striker’s role he would be constricted for space and it would be an unfamiliar position for him. He asked him not to do midfielder’s hard work on ground, instead act as third striker from a distance. It also avoided the risk of injury which had already plagued his squad. The other managers understood this strategy and towards the end of the season started cramping Lampard for room which resulted in his loosing possession frequently.

So friends contrary to your notion, Lampard did an exceptional job last season and that is the reason his wages have been up-scaled to 130K Pounds and there are Big clubs like Barcelona and Juventus after him.
Just remember under the management of Jose don’t judge a Lampard by checking if he played to his 2003-05 season’s displayed potential, instead judge him by checking how well did he essay the role entrusted to him by Jose. Hence add to Lampard’s quality list, Versatility and you will understand why Chelsea don’t want to even listen to any offers for Lampard unlike Robben where Chelsea is waiting for the right price.

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