Comments on: Football bosses are hypocrites over dodgy ref decisions http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/ Football News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:36:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Anthony http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86598 Anthony Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:11:41 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86598 It's a bang-on article. Unfortunately, the comments haven't reflected the point you made thus far, Craig, but I completely agree with you. I have so much respect for Wenger but his conduct in this manner really, really irritates me. Countless times over the last few seasons I have been staggered by Wenger's hypocrisy when claiming he sees certain decisions (always those against his team) but never sees the injustice as and when it profits Arsenal against others. I agree with you 100% on this. It’s a bang-on article. Unfortunately, the comments haven’t reflected the point you made thus far, Craig, but I completely agree with you. I have so much respect for Wenger but his conduct in this manner really, really irritates me.

Countless times over the last few seasons I have been staggered by Wenger’s hypocrisy when claiming he sees certain decisions (always those against his team) but never sees the injustice as and when it profits Arsenal against others. I agree with you 100% on this.

]]> By: Craig Smithson http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86553 Craig Smithson Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:39:31 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86553 Bob! You have missed the whole reason behind the article! I was merely pointing out that it would not hurt if managers were a bit more open and admit when good fortune goes their way instead of feeling hard done to all the time! I used the Boro game at Arsenal as an example. Graham hit the nail on the head as the majority of fans do seem to always think the refs are against their respective team! If you read it again I was not whinging but admitted we had good fortune go our way in that game with the goal being wrongly given offside. As you brought it up I think you will find there was nothing wrng with Aliadiere's goal. Despite being offside in the 1st phase of the move, he was a good 30 yards away from the initial ball played to Tuncay out on the left. However Arsenal's defenders had more than enough time to get back and defend when Tuncay's cross found Aliadiere in an onside position to score the goal! Bob! You have missed the whole reason behind the article! I was merely pointing out that it would not hurt if managers were a bit more open and admit when good fortune goes their way instead of feeling hard done to all the time!
I used the Boro game at Arsenal as an example. Graham hit the nail on the head as the majority of fans do seem to always think the refs are against their respective team!
If you read it again I was not whinging but admitted we had good fortune go our way in that game with the goal being wrongly given offside.
As you brought it up I think you will find there was nothing wrng with Aliadiere’s goal. Despite being offside in the 1st phase of the move, he was a good 30 yards away from the initial ball played to Tuncay out on the left.
However Arsenal’s defenders had more than enough time to get back and defend when Tuncay’s cross found Aliadiere in an onside position to score the goal!

]]> By: FairFootball http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86501 FairFootball Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:28:46 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86501 At least Wenger has publicly called for video help for refs. He and a few more high-profile coaches including Ferguson. This is more than can be said about referees and football writers, generally speaking. ----------------------------------------- the best site all about ref errors http://www.FairFootball.com At least Wenger has publicly called for video help for refs. He and a few more high-profile coaches including Ferguson. This is more than can be said about referees and football writers, generally speaking.

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the best site all about ref errors
http://www.FairFootball.com

]]> By: Akbar http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86309 Akbar Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:57:49 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86309 Ken: "the ball is round and referees are human. Decisions can cost your team but also help your team. Get on with life and look forward to next game and next season pals." I guess you didnt understand my point, if you're saying that correct decisions would have got boro, newcastle and spurs a win or something .. well why should'nt they? I would love that. Referees are humans but so are umpires and other officials in cricket and tennis and thats why players are allowed to appeal and these officials are encouraged to consult off the pitch officials. Its not about one team, its about the system which is outdated and is costing teams, coaches and fans! 2 people ruining the whole bloody game! Referees should be replaced.. its simple!! Ken:

“the ball is round and referees are human. Decisions can cost your team but also help your team. Get on with life and look forward to next game and next season pals.”

I guess you didnt understand my point, if you’re saying that correct decisions would have got boro, newcastle and spurs a win or something .. well why should’nt they? I would love that. Referees are humans but so are umpires and other officials in cricket and tennis and thats why players are allowed to appeal and these officials are encouraged to consult off the pitch officials. Its not about one team, its about the system which is outdated and is costing teams, coaches and fans! 2 people ruining the whole bloody game! Referees should be replaced.. its simple!!

]]> By: Graham Fisher http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86291 Graham Fisher Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:31:25 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86291 Managers are no different to the fans. I can honestly say that every referee this season has been totally biaised against Watford. Funny how the opposition fans have all thought he was biaised in our favour! We all watch the game through tinted specs and managers are no different. Managers are no different to the fans. I can honestly say that every referee this season has been totally biaised against Watford. Funny how the opposition fans have all thought he was biaised in our favour!

We all watch the game through tinted specs and managers are no different.

]]> By: Ken http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86250 Ken Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:01:14 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86250 Bob Down and Akbar, don't be just a short-sighted fools as what the writer has indicated in only looking at your own club. If you feels that Referee's decision on Dirk Kyut's penalty has cost arsenal, then there were many decisions that probably will cost other teams against arsenal too. mostly lively teams like everton, spurs, middlesborogh, portsmouth, newcastle, etc. will be in the top four replacing your team. Hey who knows Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U will be way ahead of your team too. the ball is round and referees are human. Decisions can cost your team but also help your team. Get on with life and look forward to next game and next season pals. Bob Down and Akbar, don’t be just a short-sighted fools as what the writer has indicated in only looking at your own club. If you feels that Referee’s decision on Dirk Kyut’s penalty has cost arsenal, then there were many decisions that probably will cost other teams against arsenal too. mostly lively teams like everton, spurs, middlesborogh, portsmouth, newcastle, etc. will be in the top four replacing your team. Hey who knows Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U will be way ahead of your team too. the ball is round and referees are human. Decisions can cost your team but also help your team. Get on with life and look forward to next game and next season pals.

]]> By: Akbar http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86231 Akbar Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:24:02 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86231 One day or the other isnt it just bloody referees who screw every match? Did you see the Portsmouth goal? Baros handballed and then came the goal? It was so harsh? They got knocked out of the FA cup. A championship team which wasnt playing bad at all. The time has come when one says "Oh well we got a lucky penalty before so its just coming back the other way around for us this time." What we dont realise is that referees have cost so many matches to so many teams!! Almost half the results would have been different today if there was video technology instead of referees! What people dont realise is that two officials can upset frustrate and demoralise players, coaches and millions of fans! Imagine a hard fought 1 - 0 lead gone down by a poor referee decision resulting in a 1 - 1 win on away goals for the opponent? Referees are killing football! Dirk Kuyt's penalty was not given cause the referee lives in the same town as Kuyt? Lets face it, referees have cost Arsenal the match. If the Anfield penalty was given, the Emirates one should have been too. Arsenal would have qualified still! One day or the other isnt it just bloody referees who screw every match? Did you see the Portsmouth goal? Baros handballed and then came the goal? It was so harsh? They got knocked out of the FA cup. A championship team which wasnt playing bad at all. The time has come when one says “Oh well we got a lucky penalty before so its just coming back the other way around for us this time.” What we dont realise is that referees have cost so many matches to so many teams!! Almost half the results would have been different today if there was video technology instead of referees! What people dont realise is that two officials can upset frustrate and demoralise players, coaches and millions of fans!

Imagine a hard fought 1 – 0 lead gone down by a poor referee decision resulting in a 1 – 1 win on away goals for the opponent? Referees are killing football! Dirk Kuyt’s penalty was not given cause the referee lives in the same town as Kuyt? Lets face it, referees have cost Arsenal the match. If the Anfield penalty was given, the Emirates one should have been too. Arsenal would have qualified still!

]]> By: Bob Down http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86227 Bob Down Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:07:32 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/bosses-are-blind-to-luck/7083/#comment-86227 "Being a Middlesbrough fan I could argue Arsenal robbed us of two points at the Emirates Stadium recently when George Boateng was clearly fouled before the corner which Toure headed in the late equaliser from. I bet Wenger did not see that though!?" Yes we all saw that. And I'm happy to admit it. But we had a perfectly good goal disallowed for offside and you had a clear offside goal allowed. If all the decisions had been made correctly - Arsenal "offside" goal allowed, Boro "onside" goal disallowed, Arsenal "foul" goal disallowed - Arsenal would have won the match. So why are you whinging again? “Being a Middlesbrough fan I could argue Arsenal robbed us of two points at the Emirates Stadium recently when George Boateng was clearly fouled before the corner which Toure headed in the late equaliser from. I bet Wenger did not see that though!?”

Yes we all saw that. And I’m happy to admit it.

But we had a perfectly good goal disallowed for offside and you had a clear offside goal allowed.

If all the decisions had been made correctly – Arsenal “offside” goal allowed, Boro “onside” goal disallowed, Arsenal “foul” goal disallowed – Arsenal would have won the match.

So why are you whinging again?

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