Beye wins red-card appeal – shouldn’t Newcastle get all 3 points too?
The FA has decided to overturn Habib Beye’s red card (received during the Newcastle United v Manchester City match on Monday) and thus the player is free to play for Newcastle against Sunderland this weekend.
But while Beye returns to the starting lineup, there’s still the matter of the penalty that was given for the same incident that led to Beye’s dismissal.
If Styles gave Beye a straight red for unfairly tackling Robinho in the penalty area and then gave a penalty, either Beye was guilty of an offence or there was no penalty to begin with.
The FA have agreed that video replays have proved that Beye did not deserve to be dismissed, hence Styles made the wrong call, and hence there should have been no penalty to begin with.
This means that the FA have, implicitly at least, admitted that Manchester City didn’t deserve their point and that Newcastle deserved all 3 points.
So how about fixing the match results and making it truly fair? Or are we going to turn a blind eye to the fact that clubs will keep getting screwed over for refereeing mistakes (not that we should crucify referees, they try their best) with the FA overturns red cards when it suits their public image to do so?
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Sad Twat, we were doing ok till he got sent off. ( mcfc )
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:21What a load of rubbish. So, Newcastle get the three points against City, but then City get a point or three from Wigan because they also got an undeserved penalty?! Where would it end? Either these things even themselves out or they don’t, but to start changing results is just plain daft.
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:22As a Newcastle fan, I’m pleased that justice has been done and Beye doesn’t have to serve a ban for an offence he didn’t commit. However, changing the result would have been a nonsense – you simply cannot know how the game would otherwise have turned out.
What about that throw in we should have had, which was given to Man Utd in 1996, and they scored shortly afterwards? Do we retrospectively win that title? In which case can we have the European Cup revenue please?
Yes, we were unfortunate on monday as the ref cocked up against us – and not for the first time, either. But you can’t go rewriting history…
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:30why would anyone be a ref when your organisation expects you to take instant decisions line without video evidence then decides what you should have done using various different video angles and in slow motion. It’s a shame the FA doesn’t review video evidence to impose penalties and change the points as the so-called author or this piece suggests, maybe the season’s tables could be retrospectively changes such is the authors zest for the truth and justice
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:36Funny the Ronaldo non-penalty against Botlon didn’t start the debate
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:38Ahmed – the sending off cost Newcastle 2 points and it changed the game completely – it’s a pity – but I guess things even up over a season as far as luck goes. As you say the refs do their best – but some are better than others – and it’s another black mark against Rob Styles.
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:42BTW – we are just pleased to have Habib Beye available against Sunderland quite honestly
October 23rd, 2008 @ 18:42its a shame we didnt get the decision but to say but to say we should get the 3 points is ridiculous and like ed said its just good to have him for the derby game
October 23rd, 2008 @ 20:20btw ed harrisson in case you didnt know has his own website
http://www.nufcblog.com/2008/10/23/newcastle-news/beye-red-card-overturned/#comment-210230
October 23rd, 2008 @ 20:21The FA did not say the foul wasn’t valid, just the red card. The red card was most likely given for denying a goal scoring opportunity and the FA didn’t agree, with the ref, that all the factors were in play to warrant the red card. The foul and penalty kick would still apply. All cards are reviewed and punishment is applied based on the review of the misconduct report and the severity of the foul.
October 23rd, 2008 @ 20:24What a load of nonsense.
Who cares if he was unfairly dismissed, a cards a card and i believe it should stay that way. Even if he hadnt have been carded who says newcastle would have gone on to win the game without a penalty anyway?
To even think about changing the score is ludacris and you should be shot for even trying to put the idea into peoples heads.
Plenty of wrong decisions are made every game such as the penalty at man city wigan but who says city would of won if wigans penalty hadnt of happened?
You idiot
October 23rd, 2008 @ 21:07The point is that YET AGAIN, a professional referree who gets paid a higher than average salary has been incompetent.
If you or I made a crucial error of judgement, we’d at least get a warning, or worse, the boot!
Rob Styles is a disgrace with a track record to prove it.
The man should be consigned to sunday league soccer where, if he messed up like he has this season, his prize would be a black eye, or worse!
October 23rd, 2008 @ 21:18tbh we can’t say the decision “cost us three points” – we don’t know whether the team was galvanised after the sending off/goal….. The way we played was typical 10 against 11 and we were still lucky……..
October 23rd, 2008 @ 21:20You can’t blame Styles just because he was at the wrong angle to view it properly. What the hell is wrong with another referee calling the decision from a tv monitor, afterall there are millions doing it at home.
October 23rd, 2008 @ 22:20Personally I wish he had stayed on, we were much better against 11 men than we were against 10!
Must admit I thought it was a daft idea, but then I got to thinking that if they reallocated points for dodgy decisions and applied it over the last 15 seasons the Scum would have all those titles taken off them.
October 23rd, 2008 @ 22:21I’ve voiced my opinion elsewhere on this. Even if it was a penalty (and I have serious doubts about that), Beye didn’t deserve to march. The ref should have that discretion.
Same applies to Zabaleta. Never touched the man, took the ball as cleanly as you like, and got sent off. Why on earth shouldn’t we have appealed that one? – because it certainly changed the game and gave Liverpool an open door.
As for giving Newcastle the 3 points – ha! They were lucky as hell to come away with one, and they know it…
October 23rd, 2008 @ 22:48The FA were wrong here. Baye barely touched the ball, but still knocked down Rhobinho who could have easily scored had he stayed up on his feet.
The post it self is provoking – but that’s what gets us to read it
October 24th, 2008 @ 11:05