Comments on: Benitez, Hicks and Gillet – Power Struggle at Liverpool? http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/ Soccerlens - Football News You Can Trust Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:26:47 -0800 http://soccerlens.com/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Trouble at Anfield: the Battle of Benitez vs. Hicks/Gillett | Soccerlens - Football News Blog http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69744 Trouble at Anfield: the Battle of Benitez vs. Hicks/Gillett | Soccerlens - Football News Blog Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:53:35 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69744 [...] note: see also Benitez, Hicks and Gillet - Power Struggle at Liverpool? by Arvin] srExecute(); Related Items from [...] [...] note: see also Benitez, Hicks and Gillet – Power Struggle at Liverpool? by Arvin] srExecute(); Related Items from [...]

]]> By: Karl http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69719 Karl Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:00:26 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69719 Liverpool_Fan my dear friend, I think you're wrong. http://www.caughtoffside.com/2007/11/06/liverpool-on-the-european-precipice-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-rafa/3474.html http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/sport/football/2007/09/30/liverpool-chief-s-bid-to-ease-fans-fears-98487-19870973/ http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2007/11/27/liverpool-fc-fans-react-to-the-rafa-benitez-situation-64375-20165083/ Liverpool_Fan my dear friend, I think you’re wrong.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2007/11/06/liverpool-on-the-european-precipice-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-rafa/3474.html

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/sport/football/2007/09/30/liverpool-chief-s-bid-to-ease-fans-fears-98487-19870973/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2007/11/27/liverpool-fc-fans-react-to-the-rafa-benitez-situation-64375-20165083/

]]> By: Liverpool_Fan http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69623 Liverpool_Fan Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:39:58 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69623 its 48 million search look it up this 500 million is just tom hicks not Liverpool its 48 million search look it up this 500 million is just tom hicks not Liverpool

]]> By: Karl http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69563 Karl Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:05:50 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69563 I did something I hate to do...search Liverpool sites. I came upon this blog article: http://www.myanfield.net/2007/09/liverpool-fc-proposed-debt-of-500.html Seems like it is EXACTLY the same as what the Glazers did. I did something I hate to do…search Liverpool sites.

I came upon this blog article:
http://www.myanfield.net/2007/09/liverpool-fc-proposed-debt-of-500.html

Seems like it is EXACTLY the same as what the Glazers did.

]]> By: Karl http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69561 Karl Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:48:39 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69561 Oh, btw, fyi, long story short: In principle, Glazer also had "enough" money to buy MUFC. After he bought the club, he took out a loan - against the club's assets - to recover the money he used to buy the club. Therefore, his debt sits at £0m and MUFC debt sit at £680m. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that this is what Gillet/Hicks did. If not, then they cannot be very good businessmen. Abramovich in this sense is not it it primarily for the money/business. He likes to play fantasy football. (I wish we had an owner like him :-( ). Oh, btw, fyi, long story short:

In principle, Glazer also had “enough” money to buy MUFC.
After he bought the club, he took out a loan – against the club’s assets – to recover the money he used to buy the club. Therefore, his debt sits at £0m and MUFC debt sit at £680m.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that this is what Gillet/Hicks did. If not, then they cannot be very good businessmen.
Abramovich in this sense is not it it primarily for the money/business. He likes to play fantasy football. (I wish we had an owner like him :-( ).

]]> By: Karl http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69560 Karl Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:41:54 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69560 Liverpool_Fan, why are yupi taking this so personal? I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to make sense out of this whole ordeal. This is the first time I hear about a £500m LFC debt and just want to know what it is all about. You being defensive about it and saying that the United situation is much worse does not help my understanding at all. All it did was raise my curiosity a bit more in trying to figure out how it is different from the MUFC situation. Unfortunately, from the points you raised so far, it seems exactly the same to me. (that was what I tried to point out). Therefore I ask you again - not for the sake of argument - 1. How is exactly is LFC debt different from MUFC debt? 2. You mention £48, the article mentions £500. What's up with this? 3. My point with the Gillet/Villa/Roma statement was actually that it MUST have been just a rumour. My understanding of the rules are that Gillet cannot even consider buying Villa or Roma (and he should know this). Therefore that argument cannot really be used to support the fact that he has money to buy another club (even though that argument is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with the club debt - therefore my statement about Glazer not being in crisis does not change MUFC being in crisis). If you don't understand what I mean, or what I am asking, then let me know and I will try to explain it a bit differently. Just don't get defensive because I'm not trying to pick an argument. Liverpool_Fan, why are yupi taking this so personal? I’m not trying to argue with you. I’m just trying to make sense out of this whole ordeal. This is the first time I hear about a £500m LFC debt and just want to know what it is all about. You being defensive about it and saying that the United situation is much worse does not help my understanding at all. All it did was raise my curiosity a bit more in trying to figure out how it is different from the MUFC situation. Unfortunately, from the points you raised so far, it seems exactly the same to me. (that was what I tried to point out).

Therefore I ask you again – not for the sake of argument – 1. How is exactly is LFC debt different from MUFC debt?
2. You mention £48, the article mentions £500. What’s up with this?
3. My point with the Gillet/Villa/Roma statement was actually that it MUST have been just a rumour. My understanding of the rules are that Gillet cannot even consider buying Villa or Roma (and he should know this). Therefore that argument cannot really be used to support the fact that he has money to buy another club (even though that argument is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with the club debt – therefore my statement about Glazer not being in crisis does not change MUFC being in crisis).

If you don’t understand what I mean, or what I am asking, then let me know and I will try to explain it a bit differently. Just don’t get defensive because I’m not trying to pick an argument.

]]> By: Liverpool_Fan http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69456 Liverpool_Fan Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:36:00 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69456 Liverpool are 48 million in debt though Liverpool are 48 million in debt though

]]> By: Liverpool_Fan http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69454 Liverpool_Fan Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:32:11 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69454 It is the money they gave to Liverpool that is setting them in debt not the money they spent buying Liverpool all their money is investment they had enough to buy Liverpool. It is the money they gave to Liverpool that is setting them in debt not the money they spent buying Liverpool all their money is investment they had enough to buy Liverpool.

]]> By: Liverpool_Fan http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69453 Liverpool_Fan Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:29:17 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69453 Karl it is not me who tried to buy aston villa or roma it was george gillet get on his back about the rules im simply reporting. Tom Hicks and George Gillet are using their own money it is different assets that are setting them in debt if you read into it you realise Tom Hicks and George Gillet have given Liverpool a massive amount of money for the next five years which is a slight risk but not that risky. I dont know how Liverpools 70 000 will differ from old trafford again the stats were shown on sky sports so im only reporting. Karl i was only answering ur question i wasnt arguing with you. Karl it is not me who tried to buy aston villa or roma it was george gillet get on his back about the rules im simply reporting.

Tom Hicks and George Gillet are using their own money it is different assets that are setting them in debt if you read into it you realise Tom Hicks and George Gillet have given Liverpool a massive amount of money for the next five years which is a slight risk but not that risky.

I dont know how Liverpools 70 000 will differ from old trafford again the stats were shown on sky sports so im only reporting.

Karl i was only answering ur question i wasnt arguing with you.

]]> By: Karl http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/comment-page-1/#comment-69387 Karl Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:26:18 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/benitez-hicks-and-gillet-power-struggle-at-liverpool/4181/#comment-69387 [11. Ahmed Bilal] Since I became obsessed with OFM, I lost track of what's happening in the real football world. Now that the addiction is not so bad anymore, I'm trying to catch up. You still playing OFM? How about starting a Soccerlens league? [11. Ahmed Bilal]
Since I became obsessed with OFM, I lost track of what’s happening in the real football world. Now that the addiction is not so bad anymore, I’m trying to catch up.

You still playing OFM? How about starting a Soccerlens league?

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